Older Honda Accords

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  • rleongrleong Member Posts: 41
    Thanks for the info. I will check it out.

    Raymond
  • 03accordman03accordman Member Posts: 671
    Just completed a 350 mile trip on the highway and was pleasently surprised to get 34.4 MPG, and speeds were constantly high. Love this car
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    Had a comparision test of midsize sedans in their Sunday paper. With a price ceiling of $25,000 the results were:

    1. Mazda6i
    2. Passat GL
    3. Accord EX-I4 (manual)
    4. Altima 2.5s
    5. Impala LS(?)
    6. Camry LE
    7. Intrepid SXT
    8. Taurus SEL
    9. Kia Optima

    The Accord was a pre-production test fleet model that suffered a number of faults, including the steering wheel coming loose (maybe that explains all the pulling to the left?). It actually tied with the Passat on points, but more of the testers had given the Passat second place votes.
  • mdx_kidmdx_kid Member Posts: 33
    Try hondaacuraworld.com. They are cheaper and reliable.
  • slu3slu3 Member Posts: 10
    As a former owner of a CRV and presently the Accord, I think I can.

    1) CR-V EX. Buy it for the utility. I moved a fridge with the rear seats down. This thing swallows. You can't beat the space. But if you want real 4WD ability, forget it. The realtime AWD is good for straight line starts. Any slippage during a turn and you have a big clunk from the rear when the 4WD engages. The rear end almost jumps! Those Bridgestone Duellers are useless in Winter. Spun the thing multiple times and hit a snow bank once. Lucky it was soft fresh snow. Scared the heck outta me though. If Honda can somehow allow the manual locking of the AWD, I will reconsider.

    2) Accord EX - total peace of mind. Does everything it's supposed to do. Carries 5 people + luggage with ease. Never once did it hesitated. Awesome fuel consumption on long highway trips. Roof a bit low for > 6 footer drivers. Rear view mirror is obstructing some vision. Slapped on Blizzaks for Winter and blasts past SUV's. If they have Side Curtain airbags for '04, then I will trade up (this is a Canadian issue only).
  • qguqgu Member Posts: 93
    Comment on my new CRV: I want to get rid of it. The thing is so noisy that I think I will lose my hearing soon. Not to mention all the bad comments about the BridgeStone tires.

    Also driven 03 accord, I think it meets my requirement in term of refinement and quietness. I would pick the Accord over CRV.
  • confuseddesiconfuseddesi Member Posts: 23
    Looks like Hands down to Accord !!!. Thanks Guys Appreciate ur help
  • fredvhfredvh Member Posts: 857
    Thanks for keeping us updated on your new Accord. Is this the I4 automatic? How many total miles do you have on it now? Have you had any problems?
    Again, thanks for the update and please keep us informed as the miles roll on.
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    The navigation is a very expensive option, so they expect only a small percentage of people will want it enough to pay the $2000 added cost. If it is a bigger seller than they anticipated, I'm sure they'll make more.
    If you can get an EXV6 for $500 over invoice and the EXV6 with navigation goes for full sticker, then the real price difference is closer to $4000. It definitely is not worth that much especially after the novelty of the voice commands wear off. This is unique to the Accord only for a few months. Soon, other Hondas and Acuras will have the same system.
    Anyway, the navigation is not supposed to be available until January and it is still only November. Maybe they are trickling into some dealers early so are extremely rare at the moment.
    $29,000 is alot of money. It is still cheaper than a TL, but it's high enough that I would at least look at the current TL and wait to see what the new TL looks like.
    The 6-speed Accord is also super rare, but if they are selling at much over sticker, it makes more sense to look at a 6-speed CL coupe.
  • umyayaumyaya Member Posts: 123
    Yeah, I'm starting to think the same about the NAVI system. Glad to hear someone say it too, now I can go buy the non-navi and feel much better about my purchase. But I really wonder, if I can already get a non-navi at invoice, is that going to be the case in a few months with this too? It's not worth 4,000, but at invoice, it is worth the 2,000 difference. Well hey, that's supply and demand... all you dealers out there must be loving it. More power to you.
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    I had said $500 over invoice and that depends on where you are. In some areas, you won't even be able to get that price for awhile.
    Even the 2002 EXV6s were not going right at invoice with any regularity after selling for 5 years.
  • 03accordman03accordman Member Posts: 671
    Its an I4 Auto, LX, with 2500 miles on it now. I have had no problems and am absolutely delighted with the car. I am expecting this number to go up after a few thousand miles. Isn't it wonderful that a large car like this, with a great 5 speed auto delivers such high mileage. In fact the tranny is so smooth, it seems almost like CVT
  • rtank1rtank1 Member Posts: 1
    REIDJ, I BELIVE THAT IN CALIFORNIA NAV ACCORD WILL HAVE A PREMIUM ON IT. AND ARE NOT EXPECTED TO LOWER THE PRICE ON THEM BECAUSE OF DEMAND FOR THEM I TELL YOU BEACUSE I SELL THEM TOO. I HAVE A LIST OF AT LEAST 50 PEOPLE I KNOW THAT WHANT ONE TOO. THE SALES PEOPLE IN MY AREA HAVE TALK ABOUT THIS ALREADY BUT DONT WORRY JUST MAKE SURE YOU PAY T.M.V. FOR IT AND YOU WONT BE LOOSING A DIME BESIDES % RATES ARE LOW NOW. AND I KNOW THAT HONDA DOSENT PLAY THIS GAMES OF NOT MAKING MORE CARS TO INCREASE THEIR PRICES. THEY JUST CANT KEEP UP WITH YOUR DEMANDS FOR THEM. I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING IN ANOTHER PLANT IN U.S SO WE WONT HAVE THIS PROBLEM ANY MORE SO I CAN SELL MORE HONDAS TOO AND THE CONSUMERS CAN PAYLESS FOR THEM TOO.
  • hari2hari2 Member Posts: 5
    a nice article on the accord. Check it out.


    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/02_48/b3810132.htm

  • umyayaumyaya Member Posts: 123
    Hey all,

    remember me? The one aiming for 25,200 on the NAVI, well I've come close, 25,579, with the 3.9 financing... I'm going in this afternoon. I'll let you know the main details if the deal is closed at this price. And if I get screwed around with, well, you'll be sure to hear that too. FYI, another dealer also offered 25,673 (but just doesn't have the car in TODAY), so contacting the internet sales managers only has yeilded results so far. Wish me luck!
  • umyayaumyaya Member Posts: 123
    Hey all,

    remember me? The one aiming for 25,200 on the NAVI, well I've come close, 25,579, with the 3.9 financing... I'm going in this afternoon. I'll let you know the main details if the deal is closed at this price. And if I get screwed around with, well, you'll be sure to hear that too. FYI, another dealer also offered 25,673 (but just doesn't have the car in TODAY), so contacting the internet sales managers only has yeilded results so far. Wish me luck!
  • hondaman6hondaman6 Member Posts: 1
    Happy Thanksgiving to all my american friends.
  • frankbailiefrankbailie Member Posts: 26
    Got my vin # today and they tell me my car will be in within a week. Can't wait. I ordered about six weeks ago. It's an accord sedan ex/L auto in silver. I could have had an accord right away but I wanted the silver and there were none available. I traded my 98 crv for the accord(tried to sell it for about a month but no serious offers) I loved my crv but I take about four long trips a year and for that purpose I believe the sedan is better suited plus I expect the mpg will be much improved.
  • mpgmanmpgman Member Posts: 723
    with the 6 cylinder automatic? It sounds like the EPA ratings for the 4 are accurate? How about mixed driving overall average for the 4? Mid 20s or higher?

    Why can't Honda give you all the safety goodies on the 4 as well? They could restrict the full package to the EXL if necessary. Some people just don't need a 6 but still want things like the head curtain airbags and traction control.
  • teenboy13teenboy13 Member Posts: 17
    My mothers 1999 Honda Accord EX Sedan's clock in the dash does not light up. Neither does a friend's 1999 Honda Accord EXV6 Coupe. Is it supposed to be?
  • amingaming Member Posts: 119
    Just ran across an article that states that the 2003 Accord is now available in the middle east. I just loved reading the part about the 3.0L V6 has 270HP. I guess they can still increase the power in the same engine. And here I thought 240 would have been the limit. Whoohoooooo.... (Bodydouble, that's the teenager in me coming out).


    http://www.autoemirates.com/reports/details.asp?nid=487

  • jeffrey15jeffrey15 Member Posts: 61
    They should make the following available on the 4cy EXL, but then again if they did I might not have actually bought the EXV6. Marketing ploy if I have ever seen one.

    1) Side Curtain Airbags
    2) HomeLink
    3) Traction Control

    Jeff
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Well, here is the problem.

    Different people have different ideas about what "should" be available. All of these "shoulds" can add up to a lot of money.

    Money that a lot of people don't want to spend on things they don't want or need.

    Home link would be the best example of this.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    It is probably a misprint. But the four banger number is 173 HP @5500 rpm. That is interesting. Said that, I have a feeling that ~20 horses can be added easily to the V6.
  • amingaming Member Posts: 119
    Do you think they can increase it without increasing it from 3.0 L?
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    It probably comes later in the rev band, though.
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    Yes it should be lit when the dash lights are on. I noticed my clock wasn't lit on my 2k accord and gave a good rap on the dash near the clock and it lit up. Probably a loose connection. You might try that. This hi tech method has worked for me in other instances as well. And I believe Auburn once said that the clock can just be pryed out with a small screwdriver if you want to visually check the wires or if it needs to be replaced.
  • amingaming Member Posts: 119
    Another website states the same thing:


    3L V6 270HP


    http://menafn.com/qn_local_detail.asp?news_id=3366

    Time to edge on Nissan to up the HP so honda is forced to follow. For once I don't mind saying..."Go Nissan".....

  • teenboy13teenboy13 Member Posts: 17
    next time we go to get the routine maintenance done at the dealer, i'll remind my mother to bring it up...
  • andrewdnaandrewdna Member Posts: 32
    02 had $1500 holdback...how much are the dealers getting for 03s?
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    The '02s most certainly did NOT have a $1500 holdback; the amount is 3% of MSRP, and remains the same for '03s.

    Don't confuse the occasional use of dealer incentive money with holdback - two entirely different beasts. There was indeed incentive money on the table for the '02 Accords, but of course that will not happen with the '03s for another 10 months, if at all, and certainly not in those amounts.
  • pkciccopkcicco Member Posts: 13
    Folks..I believe there is a TSB on the subject. I remember seeing it awhile back.
  • jethrowupjethrowup Member Posts: 2
    It's time to FINALLY trade in my 94 Civic.
    I test drove the new Accord and I really like
    the vehicle. The V6 is a must have item for me.
    This car is without a doubt going to be my next
    vehicle. When the tires wear out on the Civic (another ~5k) it's gone!!
    The fit, finish, legroom, comfort, and V6 power can't be beat. Audio controls on the steering wheel is a really nice feature. Side airs bags for added safety is also a big plus.
    There are still a few things Honda still
    didn't get right that caught my attention on the test drive:
    1.) Move parking brake under the dash to make more room between seats. It takes up a lot of space and is always difficult to clean around.
    Please Honda, move the parking brake....
    2.) Armrest is too 'complicated'. Make a wide, easy to open compartment. The tray on top when you first open it just takes up space and gets in the way. The two-tier system makes use of the
    armrest storage too cumbersome.
    3.) Make the sunroof a one-touch open/close.
    4.) Memory seating for power seats. Tweaking the power seat everytime you switch cars with the
    otherhalf gets old.

    Without these few items to complain about, the car would have everything I would want.
  • tblazer503tblazer503 Member Posts: 620
    have you looked at a TL/CL yet? they are running in the high twenty's and have most of those things you ask for.
  • jethrowupjethrowup Member Posts: 2
    Thanks for the tip. You're right about having the options I want. I also like the front end styling a little better on the TL than the Accord. To stay in the price range I am looking for I'd have to go with a base model TL. Also the TL only has 225 hp vs the 240 of the Accord even with a slightly smaller engine.
    I'm going to take a TL for a test drive to see if I like it.
  • jeffrey15jeffrey15 Member Posts: 61
    I tried to do a search on this, but edmunds search leaves a bit to be desired.

    I know a few of you had a rattle in the vicinity of the drivers door. I wonder if you could tell me what was done to solve it.

    I have a rattle that sounds like it is coming from the window seal area over the drivers head. Its not really a rattle but sounds more like leaf or something stuck in door waving about in the wind. No matter what it still driving me crazy.

    Jeff
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    That is the kind of thing they need to save for the TL or there will be little reason to buy one.
    Under dash brake pedal is too "Buick" especially since lots of Accords are manual and need the space for clutch or footrest.
    What next? Column shifter to free up even more room between the seats?
    One touch moonroof would be something nice they could easily add in a couple years though.
  • prebmwprebmw Member Posts: 23
    I was one of the ones that posted about rattles in the top part of the driver's door. Actually Jeffrey15, it sounded much like you describe. Mine was fixed by replacing the trim on the outside of the door. It seems that this is applied by double sided tape. When my dealer took off the trim, they found that it only had a little bit of tape at both ends - none on the rest of the chrome. They ordered new trim and made sure that it had lots of adhesive when it was put on. No more noise. Hope that helps.
  • bigzheng17bigzheng17 Member Posts: 81
    just come back from a trip to great smokey mountain, and i have this question.
    when you accelerate and the engine rev at 3k rpm, and when you use engine brake and it rev at 3k rpm, does the engine comsume the same amount of fuel? how about engine wear and stuff?
  • alfaynvalfaynv Member Posts: 5
    No problems here; just information:

    After a few months of researching the Camry, Accord and a few others in that category, we recently bought a 2003 auto-4 Accord EXL. We had intended to replace a 96 Civic LX (not an iota of problem during six and a half years of ownership) with a larger, more comfortable car that could share long-distance trips with our 93 Lexus ES 300 (still a great car) thus extending its life.

    In short, we have been highly satisfied with the Accord - pleasing styling (not too trendy nor yesterday’s leftover), wonderful interior with many desirable features, comfortable ride and much power especially for a four cylinder. After about the first six weeks of ownership with driving limited to around-town errands, we thought that the Accord is a truly fine car even though the mpg after two fillups was at the lower epa rating of 24.

    Now, however, after a 2,000-mile trip over Thanksgiving which included traversing the high mountain passes (Loveland and Vail) of the Rockies from Denver to southern Utah and back to NV where we live, we think that the Accord is a truly, truly fine car (could add a few more trulys). Not to imply that it did as well going up those passes as the 6-cyl Lexus does but there was absolutely no problem keeping up with the faster, larger cars climbing those passes minus grunts and groans. The mpg through the Rockies was 34+.

    An addendum: I am not a “fast” driver but MANY times during the trip to and from Denver, glances at the speedometer revealed speeds in the 80s prompting me to ask my wife if she felt as though the car was traveling at such high rates. Which is to say that the Accord has great road manners (even if the driver lacks them) - quiet, comfortable and good handling.

    If the Accord is on your shortlist, go get one. Tomorrow.
  • jakutajakuta Member Posts: 16
    Recommendations for Southern California Honda dealers who are selling Accords at or near invoice?

    Thanks in advance!
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    Accelerating at 3k rpm uses more gas than engine braking at 3k rpm. Acceleration involves burning more gas to keep the engine at 3k rpm when aerodynamic and frictional losses try to slow it down. Engine braking at 3k rpm uses minimal gas, the engine is trying to slow down from a faster speed, no additional gas is being injected into the engine. A simple rule to remember is, how far the gas pedal is depressed from its unsprung position, the further down, the more gas it uses, this applies to jack-rabbit acceleration in city-driving also. And you'll notice when you're engine braking, you're not pressing on the gas pedal at all. As for wear, I would not want to do it very often, but if you're descending a 5,000 ft mountain, it is a good idea. If you only use your brakes during those descents, your brake fluid may boil and you may loose braking effectiveness.
  • bftbft Member Posts: 7
    Just bought a new Accord EX V6. I've owned several Accords and Legends over the years. What a great car! Hard to believe how responsive it is, uses regular unleaded, and is rated at 30 mpg on the highway! Wow! The car is perfect, no defects at all. Looked at Toyota, Lexus, Acura, Subaru; the Accord beat them all. It's like owning a sports car without paying "sports car" insurance rates! Honda has really outdone themselves on this one!
  • bigzheng17bigzheng17 Member Posts: 81
    i did tried to keep brake use to minimum, as 6000ft to bottom is a long way to go.
  • cleancarscleancars Member Posts: 9
    Since Hodnda has designed a manual gearbox for the V6 coupe does anyone think that they will use it for the V6 sedan? Maxima and Passat seem to be selling quite a few stick cars
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Honda has been selling Accords very well without a manual in the sedan version. I guess that's why they don't feel that the sedan needs one.
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    Maybe they'll save it for the 2004 TL. They need to do more to separate the 2004 TL or there will be little reason to buy it over thr Accord.
    I'd like to see some real wood trim and noticably better leather in the 2004 TL this time.
    The interior of a 2003 TL is only marginally better than an Accord EXV6. It should be at least as different as an ES300 is to a Camry XLE.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    I actually find the Accord's interior to be marginally better than the TL. Although I have a strong aversion to black interiors, so that can easily explain my opinion. But even in lighter tone, I don't find the TL's interior to be luxurious...just very well done/assembled/laid out...but not luxurious in the purist sense.

    I welcome real wood into the new TL as well, but I hope they don't make it tacky either.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    Up till the latest redesign there was not much difference between the ES300 and the Camry. One thing about all Lexus models (with the exception of the IS300) is the interior design and quality is second to none. The new ES300 has an awesome interior even if it's so-so on the outside.

    The TL has a nice interior but since it is based off of the 98-02 Accord it's understandable why people will prefer the 03 Accord's interior over the TL's.
  • brydymondbrydymond Member Posts: 41
    Also, does anyone have pictures of an Accord with 17" rims?
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