Older Honda Accords

robr2

All I was saying was that each battery probably came from the same manufacturer and implied that the quality between those batteries is probably negligible. I'm sure if you went to Sears or Pep Boys or NTB et al, you'd get a product of similar quality at a better price.

 

As for Advance Auto their website shows 3 choices for my 98 Accord ranging in price from $55-$75 including installation and a free charging system check.

 

As an aside, my Honda dealer did a free Charging and System check on both my vehicles recently and recommended new batteries for both at $89 plus installation. I typically use the dealer for all my service as they are generally fair with their pricing. I declined and both cars are doing just fine.

bobst

How much better is my Advance Auto battery?

 

Well, since yours only lasted 2 years and mine was still going strong after 5 years, I would say that mine was at least 2.5 times better. See how good I am at math!

pat

Gregory, you certainly are welcome to buy your batteries anywhere you want.

 

It seems obvious that this conversation is going to end up going the way of the oil change discussions so let's just agree to disagree and move on before things ... again ... get out of hand.

 

Thanks.

bobst

Just when we were setting a record for the most meaningless topic ever.

pat

Y'know, this is not nearly the first time I've been accused of being no fun ...

 

Eh, gee?

 

gee35coupe

To coin a phrase.

chucko3

Honda battery gave you 24 months. What kind of the quality is that?

My NTW (now NTB) battery is giving my 89LXi 6+ yrs and counting. And it cost less than 70 bucks (installation & charging test & tax included).

A few extra seconds are expected to start a car when the temperature is in a low single digit.

superman5

thank you so much for your help, really appreciate it!

litesp2000

Here's the history of my poor gas mileage. Keep in mind that I drive 75% flat freeway at 65mph non-stop and go. No AC or heat on. Tires at 36psi. Currently 3600 miles.

 

MPG during each fill-up.

25.8 (started recording at 500 miles)

26.0

22.6

24.1

23.2

24.6

20.8 (after going to dealer about fuel problem)

18.8 (fuel light on at 250 miles, ran out of gas at 310 miles)

 

Is there something wrong with my car? The dealer claimed to find no problems on the computer and fuel system. American Honda recommends going to several other dealers for resolution.

 

What are other people's experiences? Can anyone recommend a solution.

 

Thanks.

gregoryc1

I was referring to the original battery that came with the NEW vehicle. The 2003 Accord is 24 months old, and It has 44,000+ miles on the clock, so in terms of use,(based on mileage), the battery has three (3) years of use. (Average mileage per year 12,000 miles X 3 = 36,000 miles)Your posting must be referring to a replacement battery! QUESTION: How long did the original battery last? Why didn't you choose to replace the battery with a Honda battery? Was it a cost factor, or a warranty issue? I brought the Accord back to the dealer, because I have an extended warranty on the vehicle, and if the testing showed that I needed starter or alternator work it would be covered by the warranty.

bobst

Greg, I bet my battery can beat up your battery.

 

Sure, your battery may be one of the hi-tech ones that has been coddled like Paris Hilton for its entire life, but my battery came from the mean streets of Advance Auto where a young battery quickly learns you gotta be tough to survive.

 

So sorry Pat. I couldn't resist it.

aggie1995

If the driving conditions that you described are accurate, then I woudl say that you have a problem.

 

If you were consistantly getting 25-26 I would say that it is low but is still within a reasonable range. But to run out of gas at 310 miles is strange. My 2003 Accord EX-L is sitting out side right now with the low fuel light on but also 422 miles since the last fill-up.

 

Do as Honda says and take it to 2 or 3 other dealers. See if Honda will open up a file on your situation, so that you can have some documentation that when these problems were made known to them.

 

My 2003 Sequoia got 17.5mpg last weekend travelling 75mph with the heat running. The 5300 pound, V8 powered SUV should not be getting only 1.3 mpg less than the 3300 pound, I4, Accord.

 

You have a problem. Keep us informed.

breckco

Just a suggestion: Don't run your vehicles below 1/4 of a tank. You will dramatically lengthen the life of your fuel pump (as long as it's in the fuel tank) which depends on fuel to keep it cool.

zitch

My daily work drives (similar conditions to your drive, probably about 75% freeway) consistently nets me about 27-30 MPG, depending on how aggressively I drive. But my car only hit that mark at about 7500 miles on the odometer. My worst mileage I ever got was 18 MPG on my first full tank (between my first and second fillup) on that daily drive. Second tank was 22 MPG, and it went up from there as the miles on the odometer ran up till about 7500.

 

Worst mileage after break in was 22 MPG on vacation in Orlando, FL, almost all city driving and lots of full on acceleration. Best mileage is 38 MPG on the drive back home from that vacation (Got 35 MPG on the drive to that vacation), all with AC on. Cruise control, moderate acceleration, and following the speed limit can net you a high MPG.

 

I had averaged 30-33 MPG on another vacation, but that drive was mostly at 75-100 MPH.

 

Still, might not be a bad idea to get multiple dealerships to look into it. Your numbers show that your mileage is going down.

rhstables

My teenage daughter is looking to buy a car and we're considering a 1993 Accord we looked at. It has 170,000 miles on it. Any feedback? How long does the engines last on these cars? Are parts expensive? What's the gas mileage like?

gregoryc1

I would not purchase this car. TOO MUCH MILEAGE!

gee35coupe

If it doesn't spew blue smoke and the price is right, I'd pick it up. My mom has a 1993 Anniv Edition and it drives like a dream at 175K. I bought it for her at 145K or so. There are many on Edmunds with that Accord generation with over 300k.

 

There's a lot more to a car than the mileage on the clock. Have it checked over first to get a few ideas on the "true" age of the car.

christopher j

I recently purchased a 2005 V6 Accord and I'm considering installing a K&N air filter to improve mileage and performance. It's only the drop-in type that will replace the existing air-filter (no air intake modifications). The service manager and the salesmen both verbally confirmed that installing the filter "shouldn't" void the manufactures warranty. Anyone have any suggestions or had problems voiding their warranty?

christopher j

You may want to check the sticker on the driver side door as it shows the tire specifications that can be used for your car. Personally, I would stick with the same tire. There's usually a noticeable performance difference between a good pair of tires and a cheaper one. Make sure that the speed rating is also the same with the new tire, especially if you do a lot of highway driving. As the saying goes, "you get what you pay for".

ktnr

This is as anecdotal as it gets but…

 

Years ago I read a post from a guy who claimed to be the maintenance supervisor for the vehicle fleet at a strip mining operation – the kind with huge earthmoving equipment. Rather than continually (and frequently in such a dusty environment) replacing paper air filters, some genius at his company decided to give K&N-style air filters a try as a way to save money across their fleet.

 

Given the enormous cost of so many huge diesel engines, the company performed a used oil analysis on each engine at every oil change and tracked the results. After the switch to K&N filters, the UOA’s all showed a big spike in particulates and silica content - far more sand and dirt was getting into the engines than before. The mining company quickly abandoned the oiled-gauze filters, wrote-off their high cost and went back to the pleated-paper air filters they’d been using.

 

Granted, this guy could have been writing a detailed hoax. He could have worked for a maker of traditional air filters. Heck, I could be making this story up. Still, if it were me, I’d want to see some reliable data showing that K&N filters actually filter at least as well as most traditional pleated-paper air filters. I don’t care about some claimed fractional gain in horsepower or fuel mileage – I’m talking about air filtration alone. If the filtration isn’t any good, is it worth any small gain?

 

Also, have you actually tried washing, drying and re-oiling a K&N filter with the special, sticky K&N oil? I was a sucker once myself and I’ve used disposable pleated-paper air filters ever since.

woody1352

Thanks. I've scanned through the site and found almost all the complaints about noise from the headliner concerned the windshield area and pillars. My noise comes from the RR and stops when I apply gentle pressure to the headliner just behind the sun roof. It's intermittant, sometimes bad and sometimes non-existant. I'm taking it in tomorrow for the 4th time to this dealer. I will suggest the tape and see what they say.

tgriffin

Help! I'm looking at purchasing a '95 Accord EX V6, it's a great price and the car is in great shape, but it has this "lifting noise" in the engine. The owner is selling because they purchased a new Honda, but is pricing it low because of the noise. It has 110,000 miles, I've talked to a couple of Honda mechanics, but they haven't been very helpful other than to say it's probably not something that is too in depth other than they can be hard to work on, any advice would be much appreciated!

tlauro

Save your money Christopher. Unless you go to a full Cold Air Intake, you're not going to see the mid range and upper RPM Performance gain. Those gains aren't huge and what many forget is that this type of mod is best as a starting point. Add in other good peformance goodies and it will benefit you even more. However, in your case, even a CAI won't bring you more mpgs. I've yet to see that on any car with any type of aftermarket filter.

 

What you will basically gain is less frequent air filter changes. Simple cleaning and re-oiling is exactly that. Simple. I use a Cone style on my CAI and have two. I clean and re-oil one after putting the other on rotating them every 15k miles. Perhaps overkill, but it's easy to do. I've had a K&N Open element on my 1983 Hurst Olds since the first week I owned it. Over 250k miles and going strong still

tlauro

nothing is wrong....what most people don't realize is that mpg ratings are so far out of whack due to the testing methods being used.

 

The city test is 11 miles long and is a stop and go trip with an average speed of about 20mph. The trip lasts 31 minutes and has 23 stops. About 18 percent of the time is spent idling (as in waiting for traffic lights). A short freeway driving segment is included in the test. The engine is initially started after being parked overnight.

 

The highway is a 10 mile trip with an average speed of 48 mph. The vehicle is started "hot" and there is very little idling and no stops

 

In addition, a vehicle's mileage is derived from measurements of the vehicle's emission output not by measuring the actual fuel consumed by the vehicle. This is likely why the Hybrid Accords and others with low emission outputs are having issues getting the claimed mpgs.

 

Now compare that with your driving and you'll likely see why your mpgs are low. I don't drive below 65mph on the highway...more like 70-75mph and in the city, our area of town...mostly 45mph roads that I drive 45-50mph on.

bobst

We had a 95 Accord and only once did I experience any 'lifting'.

 

The engine cut out one day, so I pulled over and opened the hood to see if anything was wrong. As I was looking under the hood, I could sense the car was being lifted. I looked in back and saw a guy raising the car up with a jack.

 

I asked him what he was doing, and he said, "Hey, you steal his battery and I will get his wheels."

isellhondas

Well, bobst teased you a bit because there is no such thing as a "lifting" noise.

 

Are you talking about "lifter" noice from the valve lifters?

 

This is very uncommon in a V-6 Accord unless whoever owned the car rarely changed their oil.

 

If it's priced below market there is a reason for this. I wouldn't buy it.

yanker

I had an Honda Accord and the darn thing would literally shift from from one land to another. I had an new set of Dunlop tires and was convinced they were the problem . They were not. A year later a muffler shop asked me if i had the car towed or put on a flat bed truck. Yes the AAA had towed it a year before and bent the rear struts. AAA paid for new ones and i apologized to Dunlop.

 Also Toyo tires are a good bet on our two Toyotas

imidazol97

>Yes the AAA had towed it a year before and bent the rear struts.

 

How can they bend struts by towing?

richk1

so I had been looking at the TLs, but reality finally set in, and I'm back where I started with an Accord EXL. No, the EXL isn't the TL, but hey, I'm coming out of a 96 LX-6 with 142k miles on it - anything is gonna be good! Anyway, here's my question.....on the TLs with navi, I noticed that the XM info is displayed on the "monitor" as opposed to the two lines of scrolling text on the radio in the non-navi version. Is this similar for the Accords with nav?

 

Thanks!

Rich

stacey_burke

The accord with navi has a screen where the map is displayed. If you choose other functions such as the radio, then the screen has the radio functions on it and the map is not shown. If the map is displayed then there is a small one line screen in the dash above the main screen that displays the time the dual temps and which station is playing on the radio. This is on all of the time. Hope this helps.

rvadik

I am trying to find a way to integrate iPod with 2005 Accord with Nav. I looked at IceLink from http://www.densionusa.com, but they don't have a solution for '05 EX w Nav.
I am looking for something with similar functionality.
Please post if you have done something like this.
Your experience (likes/don't likes)
If you have pictures, please include them.
Thanks

tlauro

Works like a charm

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/logjam/snhond3navinst.html

colbydmay

The DX and VP did not come with power locks. Perhaps this information came from Honda's website, OwnerLink. It's wrong as well. I've been considering adding power locks as they are wonderful to have especially when you have kids. I've seen prices in the $100 range, provided you install yourself, which looks somewhat complicated.

tcvb22

Is this feature only available with the Navi? I have a 05 EX V6 and can't find this feature. Thanks

snooklips

I am buying my wife an 05 Accord EX..I just don't know alot about the Honda motors.. What are the Pros and Cons of the V6 versus the 4..Other than of course the obvious cost and Fuel consumption..

HELP

tnguyen74

Just curious what's the brake life on your cars.
Mine has 53k on my EX and dealer wants to replace brakes all around.
Front 1 - 1.5 mm
Rear 1 mm
When is the right time to replace? I thought the rear brakes last much longer.

gee35coupe

When I delivered pizza, I went through brakes every 20K. Now that I live in the "sticks" and drive nearly all highway miles, I haven't replaced a set of brakes in years.

richards38

The V6 is faster and smoother, but the 4 is plenty fast for most people and amazingly smooth (I have the '04 EX-L sedan with the 4 and see no reason to have the V6).

If you're carrying heavy loads on long, steep hills or require blazingly fast acceleration, the V6 is best, of course.

But drive both and you might conclude as I did that the 4 is a better choice because it costs less, is slightly more economical, is about 174 pounds lighter on the front end and might handle better, and has a permanent timing chain instead of a timing belt that must be replaced.

Note, however, that he EX V6 has a power passenger seat and home-link for your garage door opener, and maybe another feature or two as well......Richard

acczecutive

Hey guys!
my brother had changed my spark plugs and
wires, and i don't think he put the wires in
the right order on the distrubutor cap.
now the car is misfireing and back firing.
may you please send or give me the diagram
or firing order on the cap.
Thank you
This is a 4cyl V-TECH motor
May you please e-mail me at LEGZECUTIVE@AOL.COM

gregoryc1

Purchase the 4 cylinder. You have more than enough power, and you will not have the V6 automatic trans issue to deal with in the future! YES, the V6 has a trans issue.

pat

Hi snooklips - we've had a lot of previous discussion on that topic. You should go back and check it out. An easy way to do that is to use the Search This Discussion feature on the page bar.

tcvb22

Just to give some background on the question I was asking.

Is there a way to see the avg. MPG with the 2005 EX V6 without the NAVI.

Thanks

tye1

Hi I'm new to this post and have a question about my 2005 EX V6.

I now have 800 miles my car and and noticed that when I take my foot off the accelerator the car slows down quickly. This happend since day one but I thought that it had to go through the 600 mile breakin period.

I didn't notice this when I was test driving and didn't have this problem with my old honda.

Has anyone experience this problem and is there anything that can be done about it.

bolivar

snooklips, you need to know gregoryc1 has an 'issue' with Honda V6 transmissions.

ezpass

Just picked up my brand new Honda Accord Sedan EX-v6 (auto Tran) this afternoon, noticed the same problem when I let off on the accelerator,and RPM usually around 1,000RPM car will decelerate very rapdidly. Is this the same problem you are having? Other than that car rides real nice and acceleration is very smooth.

atlantabenny

My 03 V6 coupe automatic also does what you describe. I realized from the start that it was unusual behavior for an automatic, but because it's similar to downshifting/engine-braking with a manual, I've come to regard it as a positive.

The Accord auto also behaves like a manual in that on an incline, one can "feather" the accelerator as if slipping a clutch.

The current Accord tranny seems to have sophisticated features that're not played up too much, except for the Grade Logic Control which I'm convinced causes the prominent deceleration trait.

Save for its less than stellar reliability, the Accord automatic is probably one of the best in its price class today.

gregoryc1

I do not have an "issue" with Honda V6 transmissions. Honda has the "issue with the transmission"! Do the research on the "net", and you will see that the V6 transmission problem dates back to 1999. Even Honda can't deny the truth on this issue. They have had more than enough time to correct the problem in production. The important questions are; ----Why hasn't Honda responded to this "issue" on the production / assembly line side of the issue?------ If they can repair the problem by installing a remanufactured unit, (after the original unit fails at low mileage), why can't they make the same modifications in the production units that are being installed in the new vehicles? Remember, these are the same engineers that recommend the minimum oil and filter maintenance intervals of 5,000 and / or 10,000 miles depending on the vehicle usage. They profess to know everything about oil, filters and engine wear, but they can't seem to correct a transmission problem in production. Now, that gives everyone something to think about!

murray53

I have the 02 4 cyl which has 10 less hp than the 05 and it is adequate for normal driving. If you regularly drive with the car fully loaded or do a lot of highway driving you might want to consider the V6. The maintenance costs of the 4 should be less than the V6 as well as of course the initial cost. Also the 4 will warm up quicker in the winter although that is not a consideration for everyone. Both motors will last a long time if properly cared for.

christopher j

You may want to check out the Honda website under engineering highlights for the accord sedan: (http://automobiles.honda.com/models/engineering_overview.asp?ModelName=Accord+Sedan).

It talks about the grade logic control and downshifting for added engine breaking.

tye1

Yes that's exactly the problem that I am having. One time I was driving with my wife in the car and I took my foot off the accelerator. She thought that I was actually breaking. I guess it's normal from reading some of the other responses - I guess I just have to get used to it - other than that the car is great.