Older Honda Accords

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  • bunk1968bunk1968 Member Posts: 119
    Well, the price of the 02 EX V6 is down to about 21500 in some areas, do you really think that the 03 will only be 2or 3 thousand more? I have also been warned that from this point on I may not get the color I want if I wait much longer to buy the 02, I guess that is not too big of a deal? SOMEONE HAS SUGGESTED THAT I MAY HAVE TO WAIT TO GET A 03 EVEN AFTER THEY ARE RELEASED, LIKE I WOULD HAVE TO GET ON A LIST OR SOMETHING? If it really is going to only be two or three thousand more and I could get one right when they come out, I don't mind waiting, but who knows?
  • cds12cds12 Member Posts: 139
    do you have trouble making decisions? i'm not sure if you do or not?

    for what its worth i'm in the market for an EX 5spd. i will most likely buy a 2002. i figure i can get it for about $1000 under invoice ($18,810) and the new accords will go for MSRP ($22,000)
  • ahossaahossa Member Posts: 152
    Wait a few more days. With the 03, you will get a quieter car,newer technology and maybe a bit more horses. Look at the 01 Altima and the 02 Altima. Big difference. That 02 Altima is one fine car except the road noise which is a bit too much for me.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Member Posts: 2,918
    I would be surprised if you can find a true pic of the Accord before mid July. Honda is very secretive about their products. They waited until the last possible day to release photos of the Pilot.

    Honda is smart. They will make sure the prices for the 2003 are competitive with the Camry. Probably coming in about $750-$1000 less MSRP then a comparable Camry. I just wish I could have waited until now to buy an Accord. They are trying their best to give them away. I couldn't geta 2001 Accord LX (auto) for less then $18,700 last year now people are talking close $17k. It's apparent that Honda is a) trying to get rid of all the 2002 in preparation for the 2003 model and b) keep pace with the Camry in hopes the 2003 will boost their sales over the last 4 months of the year so they can claim the sales title again this year. If I were in a the market for a car, I would jump all over the 2002 Accord. Even being a 5 year design, the Accord has beaten the new Altima and in some cases the new Camry in comparison tests.

    I wouldn't look at the re-design of the Civic and think Honda will duplicate this effort on the Accord. Word has it the double wishbone will stay and I expect the conservative styling to stay on the sedan. I hope they add a true tilt steerign wheel or at least add telescoping. It will give additional room for us taller folks with long legs.

    BTW, the Civic was the sales leader for the small car segment beating out the Focus and Corolla. And it shold repeat this year. Esp. since Toyota will only build 250,000 Corollas (not including the Matrix (or is it the Vibe))
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    I think bunk1968 may have to wait more than a few days for any meaningful photo and info on the '03 Accord. Also I doubt the Accord will change as much as the Altima did. The old Altima wasn't competitive at all and Nissan has a new boss, and the whole company basically changed directions.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Anyone else having trouble connecting to vtec.net?
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    can't get in either. Maybe they had pictures and Honda PR personnel staged an invasion!!
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    "Maybe they had pictures and Honda PR personnel staged an invasion!!"

    I just KNEW they'd do something like that!
  • ricschricsch Member Posts: 540
    From past years I have noticed local Honda dealers, as most other brands tend to discount the previous model year cars before any decent deals on the new ones. there are siome good buys on the '02's but with all the hype about the new Accord, I personally will wait it out.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    They also mention that they don't know why the site was down today, but that they'd have "something we have been clamoring for"
    I bet they have spy pics of the new Accords!!! I CANNOT wait to see them!!!
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    That "something" better be the Accord!
  • blueskiesblueskies Member Posts: 16
    I'm wondering if our esteemed hosts, Edmunds.com, had a representative at the 2003 Accord press event this week and, if so, whether they will be posting an article and photos anytime soon. Perhaps the host for this thread can fill us in. That would be nice to see, since it will be a month or two before my Car & Driver has anything on it, I'm sure.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    blueskies- You know, that is a very good question. I completely forgot that Edmunds was more than just a Town Hall posting area!
  • canadatwocanadatwo Member Posts: 198
    Oh Well!

    Anyway, the new Accord will take some getting used to, but most will probably end up liking it after a while.

    The front end looks like a mix of the 2002 Civic, the 2000 Ford Cougar, the 2002 Toyota Celica and the 1994-1997 Accord.

    The side looks like a mix of the 2002 Accord and a bunch of other Acuras & Lexus's thrown in.

    The back is BIG and rounded.

    These pics (and MORE) will be all over the net soon (even though vtec say to NOT repost - who are they kidding?)

    waiting for the specs and driving impressions . . .
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    It MUST be Honda conspiring to keep us from learning the truth of the new Accord! As this is the case, what is the pic of? Please describe in very lenghty, descriptive detail...
  • canadatwocanadatwo Member Posts: 198
    Oh Well!

    Anyway, the new Accord will take some getting used to, but most will probably end up liking it after a while.

    The front end looks like a mix of the 2002 Civic, the 2000 Ford Cougar, the 2002 Toyota Celica and the 1994-1997 Accord.

    The side looks like a mix of the 2002 Accord and a bunch of other Acuras & Lexus's thrown in.

    The back is BIG and rounded.

    These pics (and MORE) will be all over the net soon (even though vtec say to NOT repost - who are they kidding?)

    waiting for the specs and driving impressions . . .
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    but I can't get tot he page with the $%&# pictures!!!!

    AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!
  • canadatwocanadatwo Member Posts: 198
    I seem to be able to get back into vtec.net about 1 try out of 20. Keep trying???

    Anyway, there are 8 pictures taken by an amateur "spy". Front, rear & side views of the 2003 Accord in motion on public roads.

    4 different colours - green, red, silver & gold.

    Definitely bigger than the 2002 model.

    Going more for the classy look (vs sporty).
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Yep, those pics were accurate (the drawing from Mag X & the spy pic that looked like a Chrysler from the front).
  • cokane5227cokane5227 Member Posts: 117
    i think it looks okay, not better than the current edition, but who knows, it may might grow on me in the future.
  • waydewayde Member Posts: 198
    looks like they followed the design trend of the new civic - big, slabby sided sheet metal.
    Like the tail lights on the spy pics better - they curved up rather than down (by curving down, it makes the rear look "frumpy"). And yes, the front does look very Chrysler-ish - except with a big 'ol H in the center.
    Come on HONDA... give us a redesign that looks better than the previous generation. I have been a Honda fan for a long time but starting with the new Civic I've been turned off. Guess it looks like Mazda will indeed take the throne for sporty looking and feeling cars.
    BTW - Had a 96 civic ex coupe, 98 gs-r, and now have a protege5. I can't tell you how impressed I am w/ the P5 - quality and reliability top notch. Not to mention that the Mazda dealer here in town is much better than the Honda dealers around :-)
    I was HOPING I would be able to buy a Honda again, but looks like I'll have to wait. Oh well. Maybe the coupe will look better, but by the spy pic we've seen of it (the black coupe, rear end/side shot) I'm not gonna hold my breath.
    Can't wait to read others opinions.
    For all those on the fence between the 02 and 03 - my recommendation - buy the 02 and save some money.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    The description from canadatwo doesn't sound promising though.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Is definitely not going to grow on me. Hopefully, the interior will be its selling point.

    I think the butt is too high. The front headlights resemble the Altima's in shape, but the front fascia for some reason doesn't look as attractive as the Altima's.
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    Looks like they had the full DX (silver), LX(gold), and EX (green and red) range. Very conservative, but in a clean Honda kind of way. I agree with one comment at TOV about the tail looking kind of European in a previous generation Alfa kind of way. The high butt and full width tail lights looks like the last generation Ford Scorpio. I don't know about the C-pillar with the square side window and curved roof line to the bootlid...

    Nothing earth shattering, and definately not as aggressive as the Mag-X sketch/photo of the white 4-door. That car must be the JDM/Euro car set to come here as an Acura...

    I think we can all guess the press comments. Typical Honda refinement, bigger is better, but blah looks. Its too bad Honda hasn't figured out what VW learned about making conservative design more attractive. But, I like it better than Camry - it looks more substantial. I'm sure they'll sell a billon!
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    ...but it's loading sooooooo slooooooooowwwwwwww!!

    Their server must be getting whacked pretty heavily.

    Wait wait - pictures just started popping up. No wonder it took so long - their huge!!

    Tailights/rear end - Saabish from the rear quarter view. The silver one quickly reminded me of the rear design of the new BMW 7 series.

    Creaseline reminds me of the old Alpha Milano the way it rises.

    Headlights - what I expected. Everyone seems to be going to those big tear drop shapes.

    Little Saturnish in some respects.

    Overall I like it. We should see more now.
  • canadatwocanadatwo Member Posts: 198
    chrome on the EX

    black on the LX
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    But omigod, what is Honda doing?! I think it's 2 thumbs down. Overall it looks less sleek than the '02 sedan. It's got a bit of Camry overture from the side which is not a good thing. Couldn't really make out the front except for the Ford Focus or RSX headlights. The taillights look dowdy. Overall it is not an attractive shape.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    So if this is the Accord, then the other drawing must be the Acura TL...gorgeous.
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    to be slotted below the TL and is supposed to be a rebadged JDM/Euro Accord, which may mean 220hp I-4/5spd. Manual.

    The butt looks saggy on the pics of the green car taken from behind due to the curve on the bottom of the tail light lenses. The pic of the red car in motion looks pretty good, especially those wheels. Also, it looks like the photographer cut off the red car in one shot - that's committment!!
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    It is absolutely gorgeous. I can't wait for them to roll that one out.

    It's a good thing I saved those images to my hard drive...can't get back to vtec at all.
  • joeandcarol2joeandcarol2 Member Posts: 152
    If you can get a 6 speed coupe with 240 hp V6, with lighter weight than the CL-S and a suspension as good at a lower price. That is much more important. I have driven the 6 speed CL. The manual gearbox is EXCELLENT. Best V6 with manual i have ever driven...

    I'm looking for a driver's car. not a cosmetic car..
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    but it looks like it may come down to the UD or Mazda6 5-door for me...
  • heisnsteinheisnstein Member Posts: 45
    what is "UD"?

    thanks.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    You have a slightly faster mouse finger than me!
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    So Joe wants the driver's car and Carol is looking for a cosmetic car?
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Is supposedly a car that Honda has in the works. It is supposed to be a sports sedan in the Acura lineup that would slot below the TL. We think that the drawing from Mag X (the gray one) is the UD. I'm having a deja vu.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    Yuck, the Accord looks awful in those photos, compared to the Camry. The Acura, um, "UD" (ew, horrible name!) photos from Mag-X were schweet.
  • cds12cds12 Member Posts: 139
    After seeing these pics I'm definitly buying a 2002 EX 5spd. I think the 2002 looks better and should be at least 3k cheaper
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Member Posts: 121
    I am disappointed. My '94 Legend GS looks much better. :)
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    But only with the exterior. I'm positive that the interior will be the redeeming factor for the Accord. And hopefully the engine will help some.

    If not, then Honda really blew it with this one.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    Toyota interiors have never been messed up too much. Honda and Nissan? Uhhhhh...
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    Okay people, why are you guys so upset with the new Accord, did you REALLY expect Honda to go all-out on this new Accord the way Mazda and Nissan have done with the new 6 and Altima? NO! Honda doesn't have to design the car to look sexy, sporty, etc. They could go back to the old 1990-1993 design and the car would still be one of the best selling in the class. The car is going to do what it has always done, sell well based on it's refinement, reliabilty, resale and reputation. The styling won't matter to the Petersons, Smiths, Jones, and Gists (that's my family.) I personally think the styling resembles the Saturn L-Series quite a bit, but I don't think it's all that ugly. The DX model(Satin Silver) looks cheapo though, but the Green EX model looks kind of nice, I also like the front-end (From what I could see.) The front looks very Acura and Chrysler-like. Chryslers do have some very nice styling clues. So people if you are really that disappointed in the styling, I am sorry, really we should have seen this coming anyhow. Didn't Toyota promise us a revolutionary redesign, and look at how it came out, IMO, I still like this new Camry better, but only slightly. I only REALLY like the Camry SE anyway.

    Also, for the messenger above, what makes Toyota's interiors better than Hondas and Nissans. I will say that YES, the new Altimas interior is almost a disaster, but cars like the Maxima, especially the SE and GLE model, Pathfinder, Murano, and 1st gen. Altima were the best of their classes. The current Accord's interior looked much better than the previous or current generation Camry. Just my opinion though. Materials in the Camry and Accord are about the same, the materials in the new Maxima (2002-2003) seem better than the Accord and Camry, but not quite at Volkswagen's level.
    Have a good evening
  • tcpip1tcpip1 Member Posts: 121
    Honda has stated that the all new 2003 Accord will be a fairly dramatic change. I don't see the change as dramatic as the new Altima. Disappointed, again.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    Yes, I agree one cannot say that Toyota interiors are always nicer. Some are awfully plain. Lexus are a different story.

    And I'm not entirely hopeful the interior of the '03 Accord will be the redeeming factor if Honda follows the downward trend of the new Civic and CR-V in regard to interior quality.

    And yes, Max, there is a bit of Saturn there. Now Saturn may not be what you would call ugly, but it is definitely not attractive. Doesn't the front end have a hint of Taurus?
  • cds12cds12 Member Posts: 139
    dramatic is a relative term
  • ghostbuster23ghostbuster23 Member Posts: 43
    I've looked at the pictures a couple of times, and I've decided I like the design. The only things that botehr me are the square rear windows and the tail lights. You guys who thought you were going to get an Acura priced like a Honda are crazy. Is the Camry as sophisticated as a Lexus? Can an Altima compete with an Infinity? Of course not. The Accord is intended to be an affordable family sedan, not a luxury or sports car. The average family car buyer is looking for safety, reliability, and value, with an elegant edge, and that's what the previous Accord and the new iteration will give them.
  • apatiaapatia Member Posts: 36
    I'm not surprised by the stylin. More disappointed. I'm 22 and I drive an early 90's accord. In my opinion, the 2003 looks... geezer-esque.

    I think Honda has failed miserably if they're trying to attract a younger buyer with that car. Just as they failed somewhat with the civic styling - not very youth attractive at all. I'm not saying they need something as overwrought as the Mitsu Eclispe, but for gods sake throw us youth a freakin bone. Styling has declined with every generation.

    Unfortunately, I think I'll have to switch brands when I purchase a new vehicle this fall. No way I purchasing something so staid.
  • ghostbuster23ghostbuster23 Member Posts: 43
    I've looked at the pictures a couple of times, and I've decided I like the design. The only things that botehr me are the square rear windows and the tail lights. You guys who thought you were going to get an Acura priced like a Honda are crazy. Is the Camry as sophisticated as a Lexus? Can an Altima compete with an Infinity? Of course not. The Accord is intended to be an affordable family sedan, not a luxury or sports car. The average family car buyer is looking for safety, reliability, and value, with an elegant edge, and that's what the previous Accord and the new iteration will give them.
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