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  • hssahuhssahu Posts: 26
    After inputs from you, I ditched the idea of dedicated winter tires for SF Bay area (merely for few ski trips).

    But, while generally checking on tirerack, I saw Michelin has a "pilot sport (summer only)" and a "pilot sport A/S". The ratings of "Pilot sport A/S" is much higher than the ones I have now (pilot MXM4 A/S). Even in all dry, wet and snow traction catagories. Worth upgrading to the "Pilot sport A/S"?

    The dry traction rating of "Pilot sport - summer only" is not that much better than "pilot sport A/S".

    Any experiences with these specific ones?
  • 530bmw530bmw Posts: 130
    Can anyone tell me if oil changes are included in the warranty?
  • riezriez Posts: 2,361
    530bmw... Think you are referring to the free maintenance program. That does cover things like oil changes, Schedule 1 maintenance, wiper blades, brake pads, etc. Doesn't cover tires. The 4/50 b-to-b warranty covers work on car (engine, transmission, suspension, electronic components, etc.).
  • 530bmw530bmw Posts: 130
    I had a mental block this morning and could not come up with the right name. Your guess is correct. Thank.
  • dabimmerdabimmer Posts: 165
    Don't have too much knowledge about those specific tires but feel that you can not
    compare the two Michelins (Pilot Sport) and the Pilot Sport A/S because they are
    two different classifications. They are both excellent tires in their own right, and the
    Pilot Sport A/S are high performance tires, be aware of that. They might just be what you need for excursions up to the ski country. I am glad you ditched the idea of "winters" though. The final word will have to be yours since I don't know how many miles you have on your present MXM4 A/S and how soon you want to upgrade.
  • dzubadzuba Posts: 159
    In my search for the perfect CPO 530:
    01/02 530
    Premium Package
    Cold Weather

    I have found two vehicles so far:

    1: 01 20,000 miles, and CPO for 38K
    2: 02 9,000 miles, non-CPO for 45K

    However - neither has heated seats, and if I am to pay that much for a car - I think I need/want heated seats, so I will wait for the right car.
    Anyone out there disagree on the value add of heated seats, besides being personal?

    Additionally, the one for 45K is way over priced!
  • srfastsrfast Posts: 138
    I paid $47,000 for a 2003 530i with: Manual, Premium,Package,Sport,Cold Weather,Xenons,Park Distance Control & Rear Side Airbags. I could have paid less if I pressed the issue, but I am satisfied. I got the car built to my spec, 5-10 miles on the clock and did not have to settle for what other people didn't want. BTW, if the cars you mention had Cold Weather, why didn't they have heated seats ?

    Good luck....JL
  • msealsmseals Posts: 257
    Anyone know how much just an oil change cost? Also, is the oil always synthetic? I got a quote from the local dealer and he said it would be $63 for a regular (meaning regular oil) and $75 for synthetic. I was shocked to find out that it was only $12 more for synthetic!! May question it, isn't all BMW oil synthetic?
  • I'm new to the board and I'm planning on purchasing an '03 530 and was considering adding the DSP stereo option. But I have heard that even with DSP some users found the sound quality to be somewhat bad at certain frequncies and that they ended up upgrading amps/speakers. My understanding is also that modifying the DSP is somewhat difficult. Therefore is it in my best interest to not fork over the extra $1200 and just get the stock system. Any thougths/experiences/advice would be helpful...
  • srfastsrfast Posts: 138
    My BMW salesperson is a long time friend and knows that I keep my cars for a long time and would not hestiate spending extra $$'s for options of value. He drives a 2002 540i/6spd with DSP and when I asked if it was a worth while option, his response was: Save your money.

    Hope this helps...JL
  • dzubadzuba Posts: 159
    The 2 530's I mentioned did not have the CWP - so no heated seats.

    What I really like about CPO is the lower finance rate, but more importantly the 100K warranty as I drive 30K miles per year.
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    I don't know what the dealer's talking about; there's only one oil they CAN use, and that's the special BMW-Castrol blend, which is synthetic. (Technically, it's not as purely synthetic as, say, Amsoil, but it's close enough.) BMW also "permits" Mobil 1, Valvoline SynPower, and Castrol Syntec (virtually the same as the BMW stuff), all at 5W-30 weight. What "permits" means I'm not entirely sure, but I would recommend against standard motor oil (which I don't think BMW makes), and am surprised the dealer even offered it. As for pricing, I'm not sure since I'll be getting it for free for the next three years, but I've heard it can run over $100 in some places.
  • joatmonjoatmon Posts: 315

    To my knowledge, all BMW branded oil is synthetic. I'm sure the dealer also has non-syn oil of another brand, ie Castrol. In your car, I would use the BMW synthetic.

    From your other posts, I see you are enjoying the BMW.

    Happy motoring,

  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    This is an old debate. My advice is to go to your dealer, armed with a couple of your favorite CD's (don't rely on the radio, since reception and the medium's inherrent quality limitations are subpar), and ask to test out both systems.

    Not only is the quality of a stereo system's tonal signature somewhat subjective, but the music you listen to might either take advantage of the system's tuning, or may exploit its weaknesses. From my experience, those who enjoy a lot of bass-heavy music (R&B, rap, hip hop, heavy metal, etc.) often find the DSP (and base) system lacking and disappointing. Those who have the DSP system often upgrade to the M audio option (an option on the M5), which entails upgrading the two rear subwoofers. But, certainly, upgrading the standard system is easier (and cheaper) to do.

    I listen more to a mix of rock, pop, jazz, treble-biased vocals, etc., and find the DSP system excellent. But often I hear songs with tangible bass, and I never find myself wishing the response there would be more pronounced.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,056
    Being Canadian, living in Phoenix & married to someone who puts on a coat (not a jacket, a coat) when we go to the movies, I'll make an observation.

    The people who suffer from the cold (you all know who you are) absolutely love, and at this "price point" need heated seats. Those of us who look forward to Autumn & enjoy Winter could give a rip. It's so, so subjective.

    Unless you just want the heated seats because the "exclusive" cars have them. If that's your position, I'm going to do us all a favour and shut up.
  • I had a 1993 325i with heated seats. My experience was that by the time the heating elements had begun heating the seats, my butt had already done the job. I didn't order the heated seats, but after having them decided that, given a choice, I'd pass on the option for my later cars. If you're style is to start your car cold, and let the seats warm up with the car, they might work for you. As you might guess from my lead-in, I'm a start and go guy.
  • msealsmseals Posts: 257
    Thanks for the info on oil. I didn't think there was a regular oil from BMW so I will have to ask him what the difference is. I had decided to spend the extra $12 anyway for the synthetic since the previous owner said he used synthetic.

    joatmon: Yes, I am loving my 528, unfortunately my commute just isn't long enough. I was totally impressed with how high the projected MPG went up on the trip computer as I drove out to Ann Arbor and back (about a 25 mile drive each way. It was all freeway and I was doing about 70-75. The MPG went up to 31 mpg while cruising at about 75 or so.
  • dzubadzuba Posts: 159
    When did the Sport Package become standard on the 540? What year? Thanks
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    I believe the sport package has always been standard on the 540i 6-speed, and has always been an option on the 540iA and 540 sport wagon.
  • jb_shinjb_shin Posts: 357
    Can anyone recommend a sales person in DC metro area, VA/MD? It will for an M car via ED, so the price will be non-negotiable, but I am looking for a good service I can count on. Thanks.
  • I have 20K miles on my 2001 530 and I am looking for an extended warranty. Has anyone had any experience with Pricing seems to be good.
    Has anyone had any experience going back to BMW getting an extended warranty after the purchase of the car?
    I now have the basic factory warranty. Some friends who have BMWs have advised me to get an extended warranty.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I'm sure the good folks hanging out in this discussion will have advice for you, but you might also want to check out the discussion list on our Finance, Warranty & Insurance board. I think there is a discussion dedicated to WarrantyByNet, and in any case, there is a whole ton of information there about extended warranties.

    Good luck.
  • leepzleepz Posts: 1
    After God blessed me with a new bundle of joy, I now have to sale my 300zx(emotional)We purchased a X5 for my wife last year and very impressed..I personally have been looking at some CPO 5-series.. I welcome feedback on 2000 540's, and 2001 530's on maintenance, warranty, performance, etc...i've come across a few 530's with upgrades by Dinan..ex throttle body, intakes, chips, and springs..supposely installed by BMW..should I stay away from used Beamers with upgrades or consider? I look forward to owning one soon.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    This might sound odd coming from someone who traded a 2000 540i 6-speed for a 2002 M5, but I would recommend you give serious consideration to a 2001 530i (preferably 5-speed, sport package). I encouraged one of my employees to get one (new 2003) and just had the opportunity to drive it myself yesterday. It is a damn nice car and is a significant power improvement over the previous 528i. The handling is exceptional and every bit as good as my old 540i.

    If your trade off is getting a 1-2 year older, higher milage 540i to get the same price as a newer, lower milage 530i, I'd go the 530i route. The newer 530i will cost you quite a bit less to maintain while junior is growing up. If money doesn't matter, get a new M5.

    Also, stay away from upgraded, modified cars. My guess is that fewer than 2% of 5-series buyers modify their cars and that subset correlates very high with the subset that drives them with reckless abandon. That's not the kind of used car you want to buy, CPO'd or not. Find one that has been well maintained and driven responsibly by a professional adult.

    Good luck and congratulations on the new arrival. Your 300zx is just a chunk of metal. Save your emotions for parenthood.
  • HI,
    I was looking through a dealers used cars and he said they had a 1999, 528, leather, maual 5spd, with the sport package and 60,000kms. on it. There is about a year left on the warranty, and this is a BMW Certified series car so there are two more years after the original expires. The price was just dropped to 32,900.00 (rmember this is Canadian dollars. I'm wondering if this is a good deal. The car looks great. They also have a 528, maual with the premium package and 38000kms at the same price. Do you out there think it's a good deal? Also, has anyone used their "ownership plan" whereby the purchase price is halved and held back in a "balloon" payment at the end of three years. Payments are based on the remianing balance. It's sort of like a lease only toward owning the car. My question here is estimating the depreciation of the car over the next three years. Would it be worth less than the 50% of the 32,900.00 price, which would put me "upside down". If the car is good, I'd like to drive it for 6 years or so. I welcome your input, I'm very tempted, but I don't know much about buying and I don't want to get burned here. I don't know how much they'll come down if at all since it was just reduced again, and I don't know how much BMW negotiates.
    cdn driver
  • dabimmerdabimmer Posts: 165
    Sounds rather like a good deal for a 99, 528 with the premium package. Is this one
    CPO'd as well? Not familiar with that type of ownership plan, would prefer a more
    conventional loan where the entire and final deal is spelled out at the inception of
    the loan process. Personally I would prefer the one with the sport suspension but
    not being familiar with Canadian winters it makes me wonder if this would be your
    best choice since the sport package does not mix well with snowy conditions. You
    can always opt for dedicated steel wheels with snow tires during the snowy months.
    Hope this helps.
  • jr51jr51 Posts: 5
    Have been driving my 03' 530ia for about a month and a half. As an audiophile, I feel the conventional sound system is actually pretty good (good base and treble response).
    The heated seats are quick to heat and are welcome to my entire back.
    There is nothing adverse about this vehicle (so far), but instead, accolades on performance and handling. Just put new Dunlop Winter Sports with Miglio Cello wheels (after reading tire rack reviews; the wheels even came with BMW wheel caps !)I will provide updated posts on my experience. Having two other previous BMWs, it is nice to come home.
  • jr51jr51 Posts: 5
    Does anyone know where I can purchase a less costly 6 CD changer than that reommended by BMW ?
  • msealsmseals Posts: 257
    I have been researching this too. You can either pay $650 for the BMW Alpine, or you can get a regular Alpine for $250 or an Alpine that plays MP3's for about $300. Then you can get and adapter from either Blitzsafe or Soundgate for about $100. The soundgate I hear is much better and I think that is the route that I will be taking. Soundgate also has adapter for Kenwood, Sony and Pioneer as well. I haven't seen either one in action but it supposedly makes the steering wheel controls work and the radio controls as well, it simply plugs into your changer and the bmw changer wires plug into it. Which ever CD changer you get though, make sure it is direct interface as appose to the RF interface.
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