Lexus LS 400/LS 430
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titles. This new topic is a continuation of the
Lexus LS 400 topic while accommodating model
changes in the near future.
I'll be consolidating the 2001 Lexus LS430 with
this one shortly...
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titles. This new topic is a continuation of the
Lexus LS 400 topic while accommodating model
changes in the near future.
I'll be consolidating the 2001 Lexus LS430 with
this one shortly...
Thanks,
L8_Apex
Sedans Host
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I think Lexus LS is da Best!
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Live in the Atlanta area & am looking for a 99 LS 400 w/approx 20 to 25k miles. From reading comments, sounds like a very good car. Any idea on price? Also, since the last car I purchased was pre-internet, any hints on the best way to check the marketplace & get a good deal. Never really trusted the Volvo dealers here & am not sure about Nally Lexus. I appreciate anyone's help. Thanks.
For a car with that mileage, look to spend somewhere in the 45K-48K range, depending on options, mainly the NAK and NAV, but the latter is hard to find on the used market.
I'd check out your dealer's CPO inventory, and try to get a certified Lexus, sinc the warranty is great (3yr/100K)
Check out KBB.com for used car prices. The lexus dealers, even with the CPO warranty should be selling the used LS400s for around the same price to less than those prices. Also check out Edmunds.com for used car prices(retail prices).
For a used 99 LS400 with about 20K to 24K miles you should be spending about $45K for a typically equipped LS400(includes HIDs, CD-changer, Heated seats, moonroof).
Please email me ga_rosebud@bellsouth.net (make sure you do the underscore thing after ga)
I would be glad to give you some info on the Y2K LS400 we just purchased from Nalley Lexus in Gwinnett. I believe that they DO have a 99 LS400 on their lot.
Thanks, Wenfen
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Better to buy a brand new 2K LS400. You can get one for about the same money!
"The negotiations are still under way with Lexus north America and Lexus Japan
for the prices. We will have the cars here mid to late October. The prices
should be here mid September as far as base and option packages. They tell us
mid 60's to mid 70's asa guide line.
Sorry there is not more info."
I thought the base price was going to be close to the y2k level. now it seems much higher. commments?
One negative comment the LS did recieve was that it resembled an oversize 2000 Avalon, which is in a way true, and that is not a very good complement.
Okay, will I be able to just waltz in and purchase an LS430 by march?
-Stephen, 98LS
the ls430, they liked the way the s (sport) looks
and gave rave reviews for dash design to ls430.
Price no object the mb s500 sport (big
bucks-85-90k)--If you look at the dashes the nav
screen is biggest in the lexus and higher on the
dash for better viewing. They compare this
interior to a corporate jet. hope the head room is
good.
GOT A WHITE ULTRA LUX WITH ECRU LEATHER WITH MY
NAME ON IT--I can look at it and drive it, if its
not to my liking then i can piece meal order the
options i want but will have to wait till after jan
to get it. the first cars out are all ultra
luxury. When looking at the option lists there are
a few things included that i don't think i want,
but my salesman tells me the lease deal would put
it in my budget--my wife says get what you want
(she's so sweet) Price: about low to mid 70's
including taxes. No mention as to the residual
values, but my salesman says they will be
competative. MB is 66% after 3 years. From the
mini brochure i have, that ecru wood, sort of grey
doesn't really appeal to me, i prefere the maple,
but i'll have to see it in person.
NOW FOR THE EQUIPMENT LISTS:
STANDARD--HID headlights, 16"wheels,abs,trac,vsc,
power trunk closer,water repellent front door
glass,6disc cd changer, airbags(side
curtain,front),woood and leather wheel with audio
controls.
ULTRALUX PACKAGE:
Mark Levenson audio,nav, lexus
link(mayday),moonroof,radar cruise control,
advanced air suspension, heated rear seats w/power
recline and massager, parking assist sonar,
semi-aniline leather in black,bordeaux , comfort
leather in ecru interior,laminated side glass,
power sunshades,front climate control seats, rear
power slide with memory, rear a/c with purifier.
too high!!!
When the LS 400 first came out in 1989, I immediately decided it was the car for me. I spent the next 10 years waiting until I had the money to buy one. You can imagine my anticipation, then, on the day I finally drove out of Serramonte Lexus in my brand new silver 1999 LS 400. But then a funny thing began to happen. Something I would never have imagined. I realized the car had what seemed to me a serious flaw.
It was obviously not a sample defect, but a basic design problem. I’ve been driving the car for 18 months and 30,000 miles, all along hoping I would get used to this quirk, but that hasn’t happened. An avid reader of Car & Driver and Road & Track, I read each issue hoping to find a reference to this problem, anywhere, with regard to any vehicle. There was never any mention of it in regard to LS 400s, but there were two references to it, about other vehicles.
The problem? What the technical people refer to as “throttle tip-in.” I noticed almost from the beginning that it is impossible to drive my LS400 both quickly and smoothly. I had to choose one or the other. Quick means quick, not fast. When you push the accelerator pedal the car lunges. Only by pushing very gently can you avoid the lunge, and the few seconds, or even tenths of a second lost in that way deprives the vehicle of quickness.
Example: You get a brief chance to jump into an adjacent lane while moving in slow, jammed freeway traffic. You hit the pedal hurriedly to take advantage of the brief opportunity before the car behind closes the gap. The LS400 lunges forward awkwardly into the lane, and then you have to hit the brake with a jolt to avoid hitting the car in front. Instead of a smooth zip zip operation, it’s a lunge-jolt maneuver. You look and feel clumsy.
Example: You’re driving in heavy but steadily moving traffic on the freeway when you notice that there’s a jerk in an adjacent lane who is thinking about jumping in front of you, even though you have left less than a minimum safe distance between you and the car in front. If he succeeds in doing this, you will be forced to apply the brake. (I consider being forced to apply my brake to accomodate a lane changer as being “cut off,” because I devoutly believe that one should only make a lane change when he/she can do so without affecting the forward progress of the car you are pulling in front of). So you hit the accelerator to close the gap even further in an attempt to deter the jerk. The LS 400 lunges forward and then you have to brake because you got too close, to quickly to the car in front. If the attempt to gain speed quickly results in a throttle downshift, then there is a hesitation, a roar, and a lunge, which is even worse.
Let me note in fairness to the LS 400 that in the vacinity of 50-60 mph and faster there is usually enough torque in 5th or 4th gear so that the car will gain speed smoothly and quickly without having to experience the lunging, which usually occurs at lower speeds.
Now I know that this lunging doesn’t have to be. I previously owned an ES300 which was both smooth and quick. The maneuvers I described above could be accomplished with that car with ease. The ES300 lacked high-end poop, but that’s another story.
I would appreciate any comments. Thanks.
ALso, have you tried normal or snow modes to see how the throttle tip-in is?
I took it back to the dealer when it was new, they explained it to me.
Stephen, 98 LS
www.thecarconnection.com/consumer/Revie.../000911_WalkerLS430.asp?idSection=06&idCategory=05
hope this works. Great review.
and find the review.
And the change was made in 98, mine is a 98.
Just in case some of you haven't seen a fairly good pic of the LS430's interior, try the following -
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=50760&a=351636&p=28590597&Sequence=0
Can't wait to see 'em live ;-)
To members Joekuhn and bluebeast...I guess bb is right...it’s all relative. I used to drive cross-country in the ‘60s and ‘70s in American cars of the era. I’d get a pain in my lower back and be in agony for the whole 5 days of the trip. But the Hondas and Nissans and Lexus’s and even the Cadillacs of the 90’s are so comfortable that I can drive 10-12 hrs a day with no problem. Maybe it’s just me...maybe car seats in general are better now...or maybe all of the nerve endings in my lower back are now deceased. But reading this forum has astounded me by how people’s perceptions differ. Swithrow (my apology to him for misreading and misspelling his name before) says he doesn’t have any throttle tip-in problem, while joekuhn seems to experience it as I do. Go figure.
Stephen, 98LS