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2001 Toyota (Avalon XLS)
and the Infinity I30T
PLEASE give me ANY and ALL Advise before I pull the trigger on the deal...
Thanks guys...... Animull (rpmk@yahoo.com)
Please email me copy of your response to make sure I find your input .... Thanks.
WIND noise from FAULTY seals or weather stripping (near back windows);
PINGING of engine (gas related or not) ?
talk to me.....
Animull (rpmk@yahoo.com)
care to share what you paid for your i30 and where in the U.S. you're located? In Northern Calif. I'm seeing a lot of i30's with just the mudguards as an option. Not cold enough for heated seats. Given the declining economy out here, dealers have to be getting nervous.
Sammie
There is currently a $1,000 owner loyalty bonus for former current Infiniti owners/lessors who are buying an I30/QX4/Q45.
Pro's:Overall, pretty quiet, smooth ride, compared to other similar cars I've driven.
Plenty of power
Brakes that are solid and quiet
Transmission shifts smoothly
Great, comfortable, stylish interior
Absolutely no probs, no wind noise, no vibration or rattles that some
of you have had
Cons: Bose stereo OK, but needs sound in the back (may upgrade sometime soon; have had after market systems that have sounded better)
Paint job looks great (Royal Ruby red) but have had some fine surface scratches on hood and trunk. I baby it by hand washing, but scratches are coming up some how?
Oil filter hard to get to--plastic cover that comes off is a pain.
Gas mileage isn't great (17-22 mpg), but with it comes the power
So overall I'm very happy with it. I can work on improving the Bose system, and find a detailer that can work on the scratches and I'll be a happy camper.
I found, unlike you, that the the transmission is the weakest part of the car. It at times shifts too slowly and doesnt have a quick snap between gears. My 95 Max was the same way.
The ride, leather, handling, power,reliablity, Bose,& interior room, are more than what I could have expected in a car of this price range.
So, overall it gets an A-.
STEVE
Am going out to buy an I30 this week. Any advice
before I trek out from anyone out there???
0-60.
1/4 mile.
maximum speed.
I moved here from Europe where car manufacturers publish performance figures with alacrity. In the US it seems that manufacturers are cowed by the Feds into being very coy about performance capabilities of their products. The unwashed masses outside the Washington Beltway cannot, it seems, be trusted. If the peasants knew the maximum speeds of their cars there would be carnage and country's roads would resemble World War 1 battlefields as people tried to match the performance numbers.
The price is : 30,500 ---this is with a 1,000 dollars off for owner loyalty incentive as I already own a QX4
, otherwise the dealer is selling it for 31,500
The price of the car on the tag is 36,000. But the dealer cut it to 32,500 becuase it is a demo and has 4000 miles on it.
The specs...
It is a fully loaded every feature possible!
Navigation system
Heated front seats
memory seats
heated side view mirrors
six disc cd changer in the trunk
blah blah blah!
IS This Worth it? Please answer or email me at AnilT007@yahoo.com Thanks for your help!
I looked at that car back in August, is it black? In my opinion your not getting the best deal. I ended up having to wait about a month but opted for a 2001 I30t with everything but the Nav system. I paid 30,700. That should give you some type of guideline. Also, they have been sitting on that demo for a LONG time. They should be looking to unload it by now. As info, they were pretty firm on the price in August, that's why I waited....
Good Luck
The car I am looking at is not black, but a metallic silver, it is in their showroom.
From what I am hearing you guys paid around 27,000 for a 2000 I30 without the nav, but this car does have the nav, and the new 2001 is 30,700 w/o navigation. So I still dont know if I should go for this, or not. I am going to take it for a test drive, do you mean to take it to any dealer for appraisal? Because the next infiniti dealer isnt for a while. But also, if I do get it appraised I know the dealer will lower the price dramatically just because they want to buy it low, and sell it higher. Thats how all dealers are. Buy low, sell high. So I am still not certain if this is the best deal for me. I checked out Edmunds appraisal, and there seems to be on target with 31,500. IF you can HELP me at all please feel free to email me at AnilT007@yahoo.com
In reality, these cars are normally given to customers as "Loaner cars" when they are in for service/oil changes. These "Loaners", from what I understand, are thrashed/driven unacceptably hard, by the characters who take them, before returning to pick their regular cars up. They are also taken home during the weekends by salesmen, who are also not particularly gentle in treating the car since these cars are taken out by their high-school kids who try out various antics on the car (power braking, acceleration tests etc to name a few). These cars are also used for "test-drives" by people who come to purchase cars, and suffer a lot of abuse during such test-drives. To summarise the above situation, these "demo" cars are literally treated like rental cars (abused/thrashed) during their time at the dealership during the MOST IMPORTANT MILES in the life of the car.
The initial mileage (upto 3000 miles) is the one that would determine longevity of the car. If you intend to keep the car for maybe a year or so before unloading it, then I would say to go for it - assuming that you are getting a price, WELL BELOW INVOICE. If you intend to keep the car for a long time, then I would suggest that you run away from this "Demo" car and spend a couple of thousand dollars more and go for a truly new one with less than 100 miles.
Just my 2c
Later...AH
Another point to remember is that what is the price diffrential between the two model year. I would also go to kbb.com and check out the cost diffrential in (say) 1995 and 1996 infiniti I30t with exactly the same milage. This will give you an idea as to what to expect in price diffrential when you go out and try to sell the car five years down the line. You will be amazed that when everythis is factored in the you probably will comeout ahead with REALLY NEW car as oppose to demo.
Just my two cents
NEVER AGAIN!! I got rid of it in Jan 2001, and purchased a 2001 Avalon (thank God I didn't lease the S70). Needless to say, the Avalon is being babied for the first few thousand miles, and driven nicely over the life of the car.
The engine has a high compression ratio (degree of compression in the chamber before the spark plug fires) which allows for the better than average MPGs for a V6 and great performance. If you use regular you run the risk of pre-detonation (ping) which can damage the engine. The engine does have a ping sensor which will limit the amount of detonation by retarding the timing, but this hurts performance and MPGs.
So, since the engine is a performance V6 which runs best on higher octane I would suggest only 93 or occasional 89.
STEVE
Infiniti I30 luxury, either 2000 or 2001, at good prices? Also what would be a good
price....from what I am reading on this page it sounds like 27,000 would be an
extremely competitive price. Where do you reccomend I go in LA?
THanks....
Thanks to all
I was pissed as hell when I test-drove TWO 2000 I30's in January of 2000 and felt both trannies slip when shifting from 1st to 2nd. It actually made me delay my I30 purchase until a short while ago, when I test drove a 2001 and verified that the problem had been fixed.
Nissan ended up putting out a Technical Service Bulletin for this problem, and every car with a build date after June of last year received the new TCM. For the record, I have beat two automatic pre-2000 I30's off the line to 60 mph, and stayed PRETTY DARN CLOSE to a manual.
As far as I know, there have been no 0-60 tests performed by any of the major magazines on an I30 that had the "fixed" Transmission Control Module. I would place the 0-60 time of my 2001 I30t squarely at 7.5s. Surely not the fastest in its class BY A LONG SHOT, but not as slow as the "Plymout Neon"-type times that the auto magazines ended up getting.