Just get a quote from the dealer. I30t, Titanium/sage with sport package and navigator. $31077. This is $600 under invoice. Keep this number and happy hunting.
Got the I30L w/ heated seats, traction control, mud guards and 6 CD Changer. List was $31,300. Paid $29000 minus the $1000 loyalty for a total of $28k plus tax and license. They offered me an I30T with the same options for $28,600 after rebate. My wife test drove a T and decided within a half mile that she did not like the ride. They made the offer after they found out I had the same price from a dealer in White Plains, N.Y. The dealer in Greenwich was $375 cheaper, but, they offered less for my trade. I was going to wait for the I35. Decided that the 3.2TL S didn't drive the prices down too much on the 2001 or 2002 3.2TL because they were more expensive. I suspect that is what will happen with the I35. I e-mailed the 14 dealers within 75 miles. Got three responses (that is how I got a price from White Plains). They were all very close in price. Good luck!
Purchase a I30t from dealer. I30t Titanium/sage with sport package and navigation. MSRP $35485. Invocie $31677. Agreed price $31077. Dealer will throws in the chrom wheesl.
what part of the country are you in? I haven't seen the chrome wheels...are they the same pattern as the regular I30t wheels, just chromed? Bet that would like sharp.
I am in S. California. It is the same pattern. I think is pretty good. Needto go see by myself. So, how's your car hunting going. Originally I was going to wait for the I35. But below invoice price is too good to pass by.
You'll have to keep me posted about the chrome wheels. Well, I now have 2 dealers at invoice, but neither will go below that. I left my "bid" of 750 under invoice and told them if they decide to do it for that to call me. I'm hoping one of them will or at least get close to that.
From what I have heard, there are lots of reasons why automobile manufacturers place "Speed Limiters" on their cars.
I have heard reasons ranging from emissions restrictions (as you mentioned) to the most popular being: The stock brake and tire configurations can't handle speeds above X mph. Bigger brake calipers/heads, etc.. and higher-rated (Z) tires are more expensive, which would in turn affect the price of the car (albeit slightly).
I have heard also that the speed restrictor exists for the simple reason that the manufacturer did not feel the car would be structurally safe above that particular speed. Front/End lift, extreme coefficients of drag, massive body roll to the point where steering/handling are seriously compromised, etc..
Just passing on what I've heard. Also, keep in mind that a few years after a "new model" of a Nissan/Infiniti comes out, Stillen or one of those aftermarket performance companies usually releases a new 'chip' that often moves/removes the speed limiter... But they usually recommend that you first upgrade tires/brakes/aspiration, etc..
It seems kind of a shame to miss out on a car like the I30 over a matter of a few hudered dollars. I don't see why. If they have not called you back buy now they really are not interested. Offering two hundered over cost is actually almost an insult. For your sake good luck, but I honestly hope neither dealer stoops so low as to actually sell a car for that price.
Well, I have been on the insult end of dealers offers many times over the years, so I don't think offering them $250 over cost or even $500 UNDER cost is an insult. The dealer is still making the holdback and dealer cash on the transaction. Which I suspect would total around $1500. And, as you say, why miss out on an I30 over a few hundred dollars....well, I "missed out" on a BMW a few years back because they "forgot" to tell me about their mandatory $100 final inspection charge. So, it wouldn't really bother me one way or the other to miss out on a car. There are millions more out there.
BTW, there are several dealers willing to stoop to selling the car AT COST.
I am just saying if neither dealer has called back it might be a sign that what you offered is below market price for your area. There is a difference between not negotiating and dishonesty.
If the BMW dealer was not honest and upfront about all the costs and fees associated with the purchase than they did not deserve your buisness.
In this situation however if neither dealer was willing to come to your price it was most likely to low and if you really want to buy an I30 mabye you should offer more.
I know there are dealer that will under the right circumstances sell at cost. However, I still don't think they should, and since you have not gotten a call yet it does not appear that this is one of those times.
It is my opinion that my offer was not at all too low. The reason that the dealers haven't responded is that they are blood-sucking vulchers (LOL....just kidding guys!). It is early in the month and they aren't needing to meet any quotas just yet, so they are still trying to make all the $$$ they can off unsuspecting buyers. I know that if they are willing to come to "invoice" on May 7th, by the end of the month I'll be able to get $500 below that. So, now I just have to be patient and wait them out.
Why are you so opposed to dealers selling their cars at "invoice"? I mean they are still profiting from hold-backs and dealer cash incentives. You wouldn't happen to be a salesman, manager or owner would you?
Just from curiosity, what made her decide for the Max Se? I went and drove one of the Anniv. Editions myself. Very nice car and quite similiar to the I30t. I really liked the polished wheels on it. Did you get a good deal on it? I know the dealer here was discounting a regular SE about 4k and the SE AE only about 2k. Which put it at about 29k.
Yes, indeed. I just got a quote from a dealer is willing to sell the car at invoice minus $1000. So, we'll buy a 20th Anniversary edition, with automatic transmission, leather, splash guard, etc. Actually, I'll go check the car tomorrow and let you know. The price the sales quote me is $24879. If all the things that she said is true. This is one hack of a deal. And I don't need to travel too far (25 miles).
I just looked it up....an SE Anniv Edition with Bose and leather as the only options added has an invoice of $27,400. So, if you can get it for $24,800, you better JUMP ON THAT! As a matter of fact ask her if she'll sell 2 for that! LOL
I have 2 dealers now at cost, which is knocking $3700 off sticker on the I30t I'm interested in. However, I found out today from another message board on Edmund's that there is a $1000 dealer cash incentive through July 2 on the I30's. So, I figure that with the hold back they are still making at least $2k. I figure that they should cut another $500 or $750 off their deal anyways.
I bought a I30L on Mar 27, took delivery Apr 5. I was quoted a price for a I30T w/ heated seats, traction, splash guards and 6-CD changer (MSRP $33,375) at $28,600; that included the $1k owner loyalty rebate and $400 dealer cash back. You are right in assuming another $500 is possible. Good Luck!!
What part of the country are you in? Did you have to haggle for that quote or was it pretty much straight out? I really feel with the $1000 dealer cash that a car stickering for $34,265 should be able to be bought for under $30,000. Just have to find a dealer willing!
We recently had our '92 Accord stolen & stripped. When the insurance company "totaled" it, I must admit that I didn't shed any tears. Great reliable car, but I have a herniated disk and have trouble walking after driving that car for even 30 minutes. I have pretty much narrowed down a replacement car to a '98 Lxs GS300 or a new Infnt I-30L. As back & leg health & comfort are primary considerations in a replacement car, I would really appreciate feedback from any I-30 driver with recurring lower back or sciatica problems regarding the seats and driving position. thank you.
I'm 6'5" and occasionally suffer from lower back pain. I have driven 500+ miles in a day in my 2000 I30L a few times and never had any problems. No problem with headroom either.
I live in southern Connecticut. Went back and forth to the dealer I bought from three times. Another dealer came in lower on first offer, but, was much lower on trade in value. Interestingly, the dealer I bought from never called me to try to hype me into buying a car before the end of the month. When I finally purchased the car, I asked the salesman why he didn't call and his comment was when I was ready to buy I would call him. I appreciated that.
Two issues I have seen on this board have never been resolved, that I can tell. First: The scratching of the instrument panel smoke colored clear plastic and second, the issue of the air cond. condenser being in a relatively exposed position due to the lack of a grill. Anyone have any info to share?
Im about to purchase a 1998 I30 for 14900 (plus 1060 for 3 year limited warranty). Im in love with the car, but am having a panic attack because of the high millage. I am purchasing it from CarMax. Any thoughts? I hope to drive it for 5/6 years or dead in the ground, and I put 4000 down. Loan is for 4 years. Am i nuts?
End up the sales quote the price on a demo. If I want the all new one, the price is $28828. It comes with all available options, CD changer, sunroof deflector, leather, BOSE, Heated seats, etc. I didn't buy it yet. I am going to check out the Infiniti again. Wife is having second thought, now, she said she doesn't like the ground effect on the 20th Anniversary SE. (Woman!!!) Will let you know tomorrow what my decision is.
the scratched instrument plastic was answered, but i forgot when. it talked about using some kind of cleaner call Plex-something. cant remember the name, sorry. If i knew what an air conditioner condenser did and why it would be bad for it to be exposed, id answer your question but if it aint broke i wouldnt worry about it.
Tell your wife to come up to Canada to buy her SE. We don't have the ground effect stuff up here. And the price is lower to boot. I think the SE auto (it comes fully loaded) retails for about $36,500 CDN. That works out to be about $24K USD?
I just bought I30t. It is in Blue color and biege leather. This is the details
I30t with Navigation and sport package.
Inovice MSRP
Price of the car $28624 $32805 Navigation $ 2166 $ 2400 Touring package $ 887 $ 1000
Total $31677 $35485
Total sell price $31077 with wood kit (dealer MSRP $695)
So, I bought this car with $600 under invoice with wood kit. If you count the wood kit in, it is like $1200 under invoice. And there is $1000 incentive. My sales confirm that with me. So, if your sales there is none, they are lying and try to pocket the money.
The condenser is part of the air conditioning system. It is mounted in front of the radiator. Post #19 contains the last vestiges of someone who had a stone kick up and put a hole in the condenser. $710 cost to fix it. I only noticed it because my front license plate bracket fell off when I was washing the car. I saw the gap without the plate obscuring the size of it.
Sounds like a very good deal. My dealer finally called today and said "you are right we do have a $1000 incentive on those. We didn't know anything about it." Yeah right!! They were trying to pocket the extra $$$. So, I offered him $500 under the invoice. And told him I needed about $500 more on my trade. He said, let me see and I'll call you tomorrow. So, maybe I too will have an I30t by the weekend!!
Hi everyone I just purchased a 1996 I30, and was wondering if anyone has had any dealings with this dealership's service dept, or can recommend a good dealership in the iowa or Ill area. Thanks
Just purchased an I30t from Glenn Infiniti in Lexington (KY). Great guys to work with. Everything done via email, telephone & fax. The car will be there on Wednesday. I ended up with sport pkg, heated seats, traction control, 6 disc, sunroof deflector, wheel locks and window tint for $300 under invoice. Not the best deal, but not bad at all. My "other" dealer that I have been negotiating with called after this a few minutes ago. Said he would match it. The problem is that his car doesn't have sport pkg, heated seats or traction control! I said, no thanks. Even though he is about 2 hours closer.
Anyway, thanks for all the info from people on this board!
Great color. This is my first choice too. Since the I30t w/nav. is hard to come up. I bought the blue color. It looks great. I am still playing around with the nav. system and havethe dealer install mug guards next week.
I just bought an I30 and I think I got an excellent deal, you tell me. I got a black on black with traction control, heated seats and mirrors, 6 disk changer, Navigation system. I also got the after market pinstripe package, wood package, and gold package. I paid after haggling a lot with 3 dealers, $30,800. Oh I forgot to mention that I also got 2 extra ads for the navigation, I got the whole east coast. Not bad I think. I remember seeing a write-up on a buzzing on the rear deck caused by the sub-woofer. If anyone has this could you tell me the fix. Thanks.
The subwoofer is a dealer fix... it affected the 2000's only i think. to check it, turn your bass and treble all the way up, and put in a CD with some decent bass (jazz wont work, classic rock or r&b if you got it) and put it at a respectable volume. Loud, but not so loud that its blasting like a teenager with subwoofers bigger than his tires.... if it rattles, it needs fixing, if it dont it dont. My father's I30 has this problem... very annoying since you cant listen to a song at normal volume and get the full effect of how good the Bose system is. happy listening
Was just talking to the dealers over at Dorschel Infiniti in Rochester yesterday, and they had a few used 99's on the lot for about 22K. Each one had about 30K miles on it, and mine, being a 97 only has 30K miles. He gave me the typical "I could definately use your car" talk, but I wasnt serious with numbers just yet! Besides, he was playing around with me as if I was going to take the mere 16K for my car, and pay the full 22 for his used. I would much rather go for a new one, especially after hearing so many people here getting cars under invoice. however, would it be worth plunking down over 10K for a new 2001? I figure I coudl privately sell mine for 19K, and pick up a new one that I just priced for 30,200 for around 29,500 (based on what others here are getting for their cars). Am I crazy?
Good luck. You can buy '98's with a premier edition warrenty for around $19,000. $16,000 is about right for retail on a '97. Yes you get credit for low miles, but you are going to be hard pressed to find somone to pay more for a '97 than a '98 with a better warrenty. $16,000 for your car was a considerable over allowence on a vehicle with a wholesale value around $14,000. Since he was offering retail for your '97 of course he expected retail for his '99
Take the $16K. I only got $16,200 last month when we traded our 98L w/ 32k miles on it. Also, remember that the trade in value is usually subtracted from the selling price when it comes to figuring out the tax. Here in Conn. the sales tax is 6%, so my trade was worth another $972 in tax money to me. The highest trade in value I was offered was 16.4k by an Acura dealer. The lowest was $14.5k by another Infiniti dealer and another Acura dealer. BTW, here in southern Conn. 1998 I30s with 20-30k miles are going for 18,995 (on the window). Good luck.
Just received a wood dash kit I bought on e-bay. It looks nice, but, I don't know if I want to install all the pieces. Has anyone installed one of these? Any advice? Thanks. (full kit, 43 pieces).
Take the $16K. I only got $16,200 last month when we traded our 98L w/ 32k miles on it. Also, remember that the trade in value is usually subtracted from the selling price when it comes to figuring out the tax. Here in Conn. the sales tax is 6%, so my trade was worth another $972 in tax money to me. The highest trade in value I was offered was 16.4k by an Acura dealer. The lowest was $14.5k by another Infiniti dealer and another Acura dealer. BTW, here in southern Conn. 1998 I30s with 20-30k miles are going for 18,995 (on the window). Good luck.
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List was $31,300. Paid $29000 minus the $1000 loyalty for a total of $28k
plus tax and license. They offered me an I30T with the same options for $28,600
after rebate. My wife test drove a T and decided within a half mile that she did
not like the ride. They made the offer after they found out I had the same price
from a dealer in White Plains, N.Y.
The dealer in Greenwich was $375 cheaper, but, they offered less for my trade.
I was going to wait for the I35. Decided that the 3.2TL S didn't drive the prices down
too much on the 2001 or 2002 3.2TL because they were more expensive. I suspect
that is what will happen with the I35.
I e-mailed the 14 dealers within 75 miles. Got three responses (that is how I got
a price from White Plains). They were all very close in price. Good luck!
The deal is out there good luck.
I have heard reasons ranging from emissions restrictions (as you mentioned) to the most popular being: The stock brake and tire configurations can't handle speeds above X mph. Bigger brake calipers/heads, etc.. and higher-rated (Z) tires are more expensive, which would in turn affect the price of the car (albeit slightly).
I have heard also that the speed restrictor exists for the simple reason that the manufacturer did not feel the car would be structurally safe above that particular speed. Front/End lift, extreme coefficients of drag, massive body roll to the point where steering/handling are seriously compromised, etc..
Just passing on what I've heard. Also, keep in mind that a few years after a "new model" of a Nissan/Infiniti comes out, Stillen or one of those aftermarket performance companies usually releases a new 'chip' that often moves/removes the speed limiter... But they usually recommend that you first upgrade tires/brakes/aspiration, etc..
BTW, there are several dealers willing to stoop to selling the car AT COST.
Just my 2 cents.
If the BMW dealer was not honest and upfront about all the costs and fees associated with the purchase than they did not deserve your buisness.
In this situation however if neither dealer was willing to come to your price it was most likely to low and if you really want to buy an I30 mabye you should offer more.
I know there are dealer that will under the right circumstances sell at cost. However, I still don't think they should, and since you have not gotten a call yet it does not appear that this is one of those times.
About my situation had changed. Wife decided to get the 20th Anniversary Maxima instead of the I30. Well, since it is her car, she made the call.
Good Luck.
Wish me luck.
price for a I30T w/ heated seats, traction, splash guards and
6-CD changer (MSRP $33,375) at $28,600; that included the
$1k owner loyalty rebate and $400 dealer cash back. You are
right in assuming another $500 is possible. Good Luck!!
I bought from three times. Another dealer came in lower on first
offer, but, was much lower on trade in value. Interestingly, the
dealer I bought from never called me to try to hype me into buying
a car before the end of the month. When I finally purchased the
car, I asked the salesman why he didn't call and his comment was
when I was ready to buy I would call him. I appreciated that.
can tell. First: The scratching of the instrument panel smoke colored
clear plastic and second, the issue of the air cond. condenser being
in a relatively exposed position due to the lack of a grill. Anyone have
any info to share?
I30t with Navigation and sport package.
Inovice MSRP
Price of the car $28624 $32805
Navigation $ 2166 $ 2400
Touring package $ 887 $ 1000
Total $31677 $35485
Total sell price $31077 with wood kit (dealer MSRP $695)
So, I bought this car with $600 under invoice with wood kit. If you count the wood kit in, it is like $1200 under invoice. And there is $1000 incentive. My sales confirm that with me. So, if your sales there is none, they are lying and try to pocket the money.
Good Luck.
in front of the radiator. Post #19 contains the last vestiges of someone
who had a stone kick up and put a hole in the condenser. $710 cost to
fix it. I only noticed it because my front license plate bracket fell off when
I was washing the car. I saw the gap without the plate obscuring the size
of it.
I just purchased a 1996 I30, and was wondering
if anyone has had any dealings with this dealership's service dept, or can recommend a good dealership in the iowa or Ill area.
Thanks
Anyway, thanks for all the info from people on this board!
w/ 32k miles on it. Also, remember that the trade in value is usually
subtracted from the selling price when it comes to figuring out the tax.
Here in Conn. the sales tax is 6%, so my trade was worth another $972
in tax money to me. The highest trade in value I was offered was 16.4k
by an Acura dealer. The lowest was $14.5k by another Infiniti dealer and
another Acura dealer. BTW, here in southern Conn. 1998 I30s with 20-30k
miles are going for 18,995 (on the window). Good luck.
nice, but, I don't know if I want to install all the pieces.
Has anyone installed one of these? Any advice?
Thanks. (full kit, 43 pieces).
w/ 32k miles on it. Also, remember that the trade in value is usually
subtracted from the selling price when it comes to figuring out the tax.
Here in Conn. the sales tax is 6%, so my trade was worth another $972
in tax money to me. The highest trade in value I was offered was 16.4k
by an Acura dealer. The lowest was $14.5k by another Infiniti dealer and
another Acura dealer. BTW, here in southern Conn. 1998 I30s with 20-30k
miles are going for 18,995 (on the window). Good luck.