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Pontiac Bonneville



  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Please pardon my interrupting, but I've been wanting to ask all of you a question - would you be interested in having your own space in our Owner's Club section?

    What this means is that you would have your own space to have multiple discussions related to your Bonnies. This discussion would be part of it (yet remain here on the Sedans Board), and you will also eventually have the opportunity to have scheduled owners' chats.

    Take a look at this link to see what is there already: Owner's Clubs. This will give you an idea of the possibilities.

    Let me know what you think. If you are interested, I'll ask KarenS, the Owner's Clubs host, to set up your own Club for you.

    (By the way - happy birthday Ken!)

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  • fantascpfantascp Posts: 175
    many happy returns KEN!

    Enjoy your Birthday,

  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    I have already considered this. It's an interesting idea in that we could set up separate discussions for things like:
    recommended dealers
    supercharger issues
    modifications and accessories
    problems, recalls and TSB's
    photos of our cars
    Bonneville/Pontiac heritage & reminiscences about GM cars that went like stank
    meet the members - they all seem to have this
    others? (perhaps we should have one on cupholders...)

    Of course, this forum would stay - and it would be accessible through both the Owner's Club link and the sedan category. Is that right Pat?

    My sole concern is that these individual threads within existing clubs don't seem to be all that active. So, unless we think there's a need to organize our discussions (might be useful for future access - particularly for newbies) and to have separate threads, perhaps we should let it go for now. But, if you guys think you'll participate in some of these other discussions, then hey I'll be there too.
  • jakec1jakec1 Posts: 10
    I have been reading the Bonneville2 forum for a year since I got my 2YK Bonneville. Very entertaining. I love the car and got black because I feel it looks the best of the very limited colors available. The black color was perfect when I bought it but is a [non-permissible content removed] to maintain. I use Meguires products. and hand wash it but it is getting lots of tiny scratches.
    I have been thinking about getting the carbon fiber dash trim to add a little excitement to the monotone dark grey leather interior. Anyone seen or purchased it?
    I agree on the headrests & cup holders-worthless.
    The Bonneville has been perfect so far (7000 mi.) and gets 28+mpg. on the highway. The best mileage was going to Florida 30+ mpg. all interstate. This is my sixth Pontiac and 2nd Bonne. People ask me about it all the time and it seems to be a well kept secret as I seldom see one on the street.
  • ymandjymandj Posts: 10
    I have the same problem with my '96 SE - the voltage will drop down to about 12 volts and then slowly get back. I was never able to replicate it for my mechanic either. Somebody here posted that he spoke to GM and they said this is normal. I doubt it, considering I had to replace 3 batteries in 7 month because car just wouldn't start and I think these problems are related. I hoped that GM fixed this nonsense with failing alternators, but probably they didn't. If you find what the problem is - post it for me please.
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    Hi Pat, first I'd like to state that you don't need to excuse yourself for "interrupting". You are the host you know! I agree with iceman. Unless we want to segregate in to individual sub-discussions, I'd rather stay here. I like to have all Bonneville related topics "under one roof". I'm afraid I'd miss some thing if we separate. I do like the scheduled chat idea though.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    for the good wishes. It was a very low key B-day - that's fine as long as they keep coming!!

    On owners' forum: I see this idea being promoted in several of the other forums I subscribe to . My opinion is that for those very active ones like Impala, Maxima, Lincoln LS, this is a good idea. Our forum here is active most days but not super active like those I've just mentioned.

    I doubt there would be much posting here if the owners forum is set up and becomes the main posting spot. Personally, I like it better this way because those who have not yet bought a Bonneville ( that was me till January this year ) - or are fans of the car - or are just surfing through cars of interest are more likely to read here in Sedans than an owners forum.

    Just my thoughts.

    Have a great day all - looking forward to my 400 mile drive to PA Sunday . Going to be a Bonnie Cruise!

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Yes, this discussion would remain on this board, but it would be accessible from either here or the Owner's Club board. This discussion likely would remain the "main" one.

    Yes, you could have - if you want - as few or as many side discussions as any of you might be interested in. If you've looked at other Clubs, one popular topic is pictures - and Karen has lots of advice on how to post your own.

    As far as I know, the way to get an "owners' chat" is to get in the Owners Club.

    I'm not trying to shove this down your throats or anything, I just can't see any negative side to it. Those of you who want to continue in this discussion as always would see no difference. If others wanted to branch out a bit, the opportunity would be there.

    One thing to be aware of - on the Owner's Club Board, you can't create your own separate discussion. All you have to do is ask Karen, and she creates it for you. This actually is an advantage, because the discussion subjects are more orderly and logical than they sometimes can be on our other boards.

    I won't push it anymore - if anyone has any questions, just ask, If I don't know the answer I'll find out. Otherwise we'll let it drop.


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  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    Pat: It's an idea with merit but you must understand that the avg. age of a Bonneville owner is way up there and we're kind of set in our ways. I mean, Ken turned 46 yesterday. Yeesh!

    Hey guys - I brought the Bonnie in for its first service today & had to leave it there over night (nothing wrong with the car, just couldn't get bac
    k to the dealership before closing) so they gave me a loaner Aztek for overnight. This is going to stick in your craw Ken - the base Aztek has extendable visors!. Not only that, its 190w Pioneer sound system rocks and puts my SLE's (and even the SSEi's BOSE to shame). What the heck is going on here?

    P.S. The dealership had a '00 SSEi demo (6700 miles) for $36,000 CDN ($1 CDN = $0.65 US)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Watch it with that "way up there" comment!! To some that age is a pleasant (and not YET distant!!) memory.


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  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    Saw a 6000 mile black SSEi with ALL options for 25 grand here in the midwest. Anyone need one I can email you the specs and location... seemed reasonable. Good birthday present (day late) for someone.
  • tlc125tlc125 Posts: 14
    Sorry about that last attempt at posting. I'm curious as to whether the 2002 model year is really the end for the Boneville. Has GM made any announcement about this, or is it a nasty rumor? If it's true, will they replace it with another "big" car?

    I had even heard rumors that the Aurora would come over and replace the Bonny. But THEN I heard rumors that GM is discontinuing the 3.5 Shortstar engine.

    I'm so confused! Any clarification would help!
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    for a marathon hike out to the driveway to see that spiffy Bonneville. Now that I'm OLD, I just can't seem to remember things any more - anyone seen my trifocals? You young whippersnappers - just you wait - you'll thank your lucky stars for geritol! Got to go eat my prunes now.


    Ken (counted 5 grays this morning!)

    P.S. When I go pick up my Pontiac at the dealer today, I will try to rip off on of those Aztec visors if I can muster the strength in these ancient biceps!
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Pat - the flags are great! Super Idea.

    Now perhaps an hour glass to designate decades lived!

  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    Happy Birthday buddy!!!

    Are you celebrating your B-day behind the wheel of your Bonneville SE on an open stretch of highway and your favorite CD?? (And good company?)

    Claudio::: Glad to have a participant from Mexico. I am hispanic myself (Born in Colombia many moons ago)so it is nice to also gain some perspective and insight from fellow GM owners South of the Border...

    Do you know any 2000 Impala owners that currently reside in Mexico?

    Again, welcome!
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Thanks for the good wishes, Frank.

    Resuming my monthly biz trips to PA next week. Driving the 400 miles from Maine in the Bonneville is something I have been chomping at the bit to do since I picked her up in Jan. Looks like clear sailing weather wise and I'll have the new rear window installed as of today so I'll check out the defroster/radio interference situation - should be fine now. Also got that missing rear seat belt installed - all under warranty.

    The dealer called yesterday to say the car needed to stay overnight since he didn't have the window molding - and he offered me a rental car to use - along with apologies. I was impressed! Didn't need the car though - borrowing my mother-in-law's Coupe DeVille for my 100 mile round-trip commute. She has 44K on a blue 88! Needed a good run I'd say!

    Take care buddy

  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Shall I e-mail my address? You can have my gift shipped here anytime!

    Sorry for the multitude of postings - I'll be quiet and listen now!

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    now THAT's a scary thought. :-)

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  • zzahhzzahh Posts: 47
    Success comes not with age and your grey hairs, but rather with the number of grey hairs you can make appear on passengers with pure exceleration and g-forces. At 43 going on 20, I find thee SSE without the i uninspirational. Call me immature, I can take it.
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    I had the title and keys for the ssei and a airline ticket to st. louis ready to put in the mail, however, our local airline TWA seems to be a bit shakey at the moment. I guesss the dealers offer of 2450 might entice me in another direction... perhaps next birthday we'll have a better airline.
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    looks like "Dan |||||||||||". I'm not sure that's an improvement over "Driver 1". I thought I had seen somebody else posting a while back that their results were likewise. A tad inelegant to be sure. Has anybody else had more satisfactory results? If not, I'll get them to change it next time to something like "Welcome Dan".

    On another note: a guy in the service department pointed me to a local shop who can reprogram my chip to boost hp, remove the rev and speed limiters, etc. - all for about $350 (CDN!). This shop has a good rep and, in fact, I used to bring my old MX-6 there about 10 years ago. I'll be looking them up 2 be sure.
  • Hello Bonneville Fanatics! Your enthusiasm has convinced me to choose an SSEi as a replacement for my 1994 Accord (though I don't see myself making any performance mods).

    A few observations about the SSEi market in North & Central New Jersey follow. I have been using the gmbuypower site from Edmunds to find dealers and check inventory.

    Black seems to be the most popular color. Silver is second. Not too crazy about those. I think black gets dirty about 5 seconds after you wash it! I haven't seen any reds at all. The dark bronzemist looks interesting (IMHO). My wife is partial to the midnight blue we saw. It was the only one with the 12-cd changer. Maybe I should go for that one for the endless tunes. And they all seem to come with the sunroof. I rarely use the one in the Accord.

    One question about pricing: There are two dealers I have seen who have a base price that is $150 above the norm, and the heated seats are $70 more than other dealers are charging (on the sticker). Does anybody have a clue as to why? Are they printing their own stickers and "sticking" it to the customer for an extra $220? I believe the 2 vehicles in question are very recent additions to the dealerships, if that is any clue.

    Well, thanks for listening to the rambling.
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    Just a humble SLE owner here - couldn't find an SSEi without a sunroof (too much headroom lost)& didn't want to have to buy premium gas. Kinda regret it since - I think the s/c, stablitrak, HUD and memory seats more than justify the upgrade. Still love my SLE though.

    I say ask your dealership why the discrepancies in list prices for the seats/etc. and then ignore them - go for invoice price.

    I also agree on the dark bronzemist - that's the colour I bought and it is a looker (IMHO) - I get lotsa compliments specifically on the colour. Washed and waxed, the colour plays with the light & has an almost "3D" character - I had a similar reaction to pearl '99 Auroras I was looking at before I finally settled on my '00 Bonneville. The bronzemist certainly hides the dirt better than black (crucial in the current "wiper fluid" season) but I will confess that this is one sharp looking car in black - freshly waxed with the chrome wheels. I'll also say that I don't think there's a bad colour for the Bonnie.

    Buy that Bonneville!!!! and then come join us. Just promise us that you won't get a light chaser licence plate frame, dark tinted windows and the "BONNEVILLE" windshield emblem. We have an image, you know.

    Ken: Does your SE come with keyless remote? I would think that would be a handy feature for you guys with walkers. And we'll be looking out for reports of visor-less Azteks on dealer lots in your area.
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    My dealer was able to program STEPHEN in to my DIC with no problem. He even made a point to tell me he centered it vs. left or right justified. Ice, if your dealer can't figure it out, I'll give you the name and number for him to call. These dealers should be happy to help each other out.
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    I'll try again in another 5,000 kilometres (that's 3,000 miles for you US types).

    I had to take a short trip this a.m. on secondary roads and since had I gassed up only last night (the tank was pretty full), I was able to hit 537 miles (or 863 kms) on the DIC fuel range for a good stretch - then I hit towns & the fuel range sputtered. I guess that kinda makes me "King DIC".

    Eagerly waiting to be de-throned, the iceman
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Happy St. Patrick's Day theiceman - and everyone.

    You are wearing your green quite nicely!

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  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    I too passed up black because it is so hard to keep clean on a daily driver. We picked the light bronzemist and although I do like it, unfortunately several hundred thousand Grand Prix and even worse, Grand Am owners do too.
    I'm in the enviable situation of having three cars for two drivers, not counting my 1970 Camaro. Therefore, the Bonneville is almost never driven when it could get dirty. Also, because I've managed to keep it away from my wife and I'm a fanatic about where I park, after a little more than a year, it literally doesn't have a scratch or nick on it. My philosophy on washing the car is that even though hand washing is usually considered to be the best method, the reality is that anytime anything is wiped across the surface of the paint, you'll wind up with microscopic scratches no matter how careful you are. I go to the touchless washes and even though they're not great on getting road film off, you do avoid the accumulated dulling of the finish. I just chamois the car when I get home and it still looks like it did when we took delivery.
  • Iceman: You are right - there is no bad color for a Bonneville, but the dark bronzemist is certainly a fine one. I took my wife to see it Saturday afternoon and it is now her favorite color (replacing midnight blue). We saw an Aztec in the dark maple red and it too looked nice (the color, not the Aztec!) But I haven't seen any of the reds listed in dealer inventory.

    Also, the higher prices for the base and heated seats reflect pricing that went into effect Mar 2, 2001. But when negotiating, I may choose to ignore it.

    And when I buy, I promise not to wreck it by adding all those fancy doo-dads!

    mfahey1: thanks for the tips on washing. I'll have to check to see if there are any touchless car washes in my neck of the woods.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    Off topic question, but, how'd you do the green?
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