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Cadillac DeVille



  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    Actually, I'm surprised at how inexpensive repairs are on my aging '94 Deville - even at the Cadillac dealer.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    The boss just returned from FLA. She had the
    oil changed in Daytona at Caddy dealer
    78.00 OUCH !!!! 8 quarts of Valvoline
    synthetic 5w30 they used. (Yes i know it
    holds 8.1 qts.) On the way home 1500 miles
    it used 3 quarts..When i have it done here
    any old 10w30 will do and it only uses 1
    quart every 1000 miles or so. Hiway miles too.
    But a 1996 pushing 60K trouble free miles.
    Can't ask for much more.
    Anyone else use synthetic oils and have
    higher than usual oil consumption ????
  • etharmonetharmon Posts: 399
    78.00 for an oil change??? I hope this included some other things. Northstar V8s do use more oil than an average engine(7.5 quarts) but that shouldn't cause the oil change to be that much. It's typically about $30 for an oil and filter change on my father's 95 Aurora at the dealer and it uses the same 7.5 quarts that a Cadillac does.
  • etharmonetharmon Posts: 399
    Neverminb the last posts, re-reading your earlier post you said it was synthetic which will cost more, although 78.00 still seems high.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Sure wish my new scanner didn't go to college
    with the kid this year...Or i would scan it
    in here..Still can't believe it.
    But this is the same Caddy dealer in Daytona
    that guessed part swapping on my old 90 Deville
    to the tune of $1400 to find out why it died
    on the road in 1995...They towed it in 3 times
    They replaced plugs, wires,crank sensor ,fuel
    pump, filter, and a bunch of other stuff too.
    It turned out to be a rotted gas line....

    Why she went back I'll never know........Geo
  • 456ttt456ttt Posts: 13
    I have 26,000 miles on my 2000 DTS. I use Castrol Full Synthetic oil. I change the oil every 10,000 miles and add 1 quart at the 5,000 mile interval, but that's about it. Still have a shakey engine, but GM tells me they expect a fix in about another 30 days.
  • In Car Connections news for April 26, 2001, the Deville was rated #2 for most satisfactory vehicle, behind the Lexus LS 430, out of all the vehicles and topped out Lexus except the LS.

    I believe they were talking about quality control and reliability issues for the first four or five months of ownership for 2001.

    J "CaddyLac"
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    Oil change for my 1994 Deville done at 3,000 mile intervals using Pennzoil 10W30 only costs me around $15.00 for five quarts and an AC Delco Gold filter. I do it myself.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    You don't have a Northstar do you ?
    New quick change oil place just opened
    up the street from me. 19.99 for LOF.
    My truck needs a oil change will check
    them out today.....Then take the Caddie
    down too...Want to see if the guy knows
    to put in 8 quarts or not..Probably should
    tell him in advance. God knows the boss
    never checks the oil !!...LOL..........Geo
  • hbr2hbr2 Posts: 1
    Have 2000 Deville. At 75 to 80 mph does not handle wind well - either cross winds or head winds. Anybody else have this problem? If so, any remedy?

  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    I have the 4.9 litre V-8. Not a bad engine. Can do 100 MPH effortlessly. No problems after 83,500+ miles.
  • dwight53dwight53 Posts: 19
    Was the NAV system available in 2000 or only in 2001, wondering if I could pick up a low mile used Cad with NAV. Any Suggestions? I have a 99 Lexus 400 and don't like the ride as much as large American cars.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Got the bill right here 8 Ots. Valvoline syn.
    $50.80..Delco filter ONLY 8.50...Lube and labor
    $5.50.?????? $4.00 shop fee $6.80 tax
    Total $75.60 OUCH OUCH OUCH.......
    PLUS 1.50 for washer solvent ..YUP 78.00
  • etharmonetharmon Posts: 399
    While out this evening I stopped by the Cadillac dealer to take a look at some of their used cars. Found a beautiful 1997 Deville Concours. The dealership was closed but someone left the car unlocked so I hopped inside. The color combination was great. It was pearl red with the beechwood interior and it had chrome wheels. It also had sunroof, cd changer, and the factory integrated cellular phone. The mileage posted was 56,xxx but as with many used cars no price was posted. Needless to say, I am tempted. The lease on my 98 Intrigue is almost up and after sitting in that Caddy, I think I'm willing to take the risk with a used luxury car over a new Intrigue or similar car. Any ideas on what a 97 Councours(or ETC) with average mileage will run. I'll check the paper tomorrow and see if that one is listed and I may give the dealer a call Monday.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    try It shows auction prices
    in Idaho. Don't know where you are but
    it might give a rough idea on the real world
    auction prices. You know them dealers won't
    cut ya no break !!!.............Geo
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    To Isel, Brentwood, Cliff and the other
    salesmen who post here. Its just some of
    those OTHER GUYS you have to watch out for.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Your in a great spot. Lease almost up. Turn in
    that car, get back your security and damage
    deposit (if any). Get out the paper and look
    for a nice Eldo that gramps and gramma wanna
    sell outrite. Most have spent the winter in
    FLA. and don't have a scratch on them..Just
    line up a extended warranty and see the bank
    loan people.....Good for you. You will love
    that Caddy....300 horse rocket ship...
  • jimmys1jimmys1 Posts: 4
    I have a 97' DeVille. I bought it new four years ago and I have had it back to the dealer over ten times because the windshield wipers start "chattering" across the windshield. It does not do this in high speed, only on regular speed. It is extremely annoying.

    The dealer replaced the wipers numerous times. They cleaned the windshield in the body shop numerous times and they finally installed an entirely new windshield. The problems lessened but it is still there. If I clean the windshield and the wipers every other day it lessens the problem. I have never seen this on any other auto. Any ideas?
  • ericmaronericmaron Posts: 2
    I soon hope to be receiving my mother's '96 Deville with only 40,000 miles on it; the car runs great, looks great, etc One question I have, considering the leap in gas prices expected this summer, is what gas mileage others with a '96 have been receiving?
  • pathy57pathy57 Posts: 25
    In response to ericmaron I have had an 89, 92 and now a 95 Caddy and mileage has been very good for this size car. I get 28 on hwy with air, cruise and averaging 70 or 75. Puddle jumping in town for a whole tank I get about 22, 23 never less that 20. I only use premium and that sometimes is high but for the comfort and safety I will pay the difference. Good Luck with your new venture, I predict it will not be your last Caddy.
  • harleybillharleybill Posts: 23
    He etharmon

    I was in the caddy dealership today and saw the red concurs up on the spinner. It looks great.
    I had a red 77 old delta 88 coup 350 v8 a few years ago. I could not drive that car on the interstate without getting a ticket. Tennessee State Troopers would cross the median to get me in my red 2 door coup.

    I went to appalachacola bay on vacation this past week. 250 miles into the trip; south of atlanta, oil began blowing out of the right seam where the hood meets the fender. I pulled off the road and raised the hood. I had the oil changed and the etch did not put the oil cap back on the motor. Oil was all over the place. Up in the insulation pad, battery, serpentine belt and even puddle in front of the radiator. I really got upset.

    I called the dealer and told him to go get this guy so I could personally thank him for this. I turned the car in today for clean up and a new oil change and the etch laid out of work today. I guess he did not want to meet me in PERSON!!!

    codgers is going to make him clean the engine. I dropped off the car and the dealer is going to make him personally clean the engine compartment. I suggested he use a toothbrush and a [non-permissible content removed] load of Q tips. (My old Army training coming to mind.)

    Check out the STS's in the back. They have some really good looking Sevilles and a White Diamond Concours also.

  • etharmonetharmon Posts: 399
    That bright red does worry me with the cops. Knock on wood, I've been lucky with my red Intrigue but it is not as bright as the Pearl Red. I did see that row of 98 and 99 Sevilles up there by the used car showroom and they also had a few Eldorados that looked nice. Now a Pearl Red Eldo Touring Coupe would really get me intertested. That stinks that the goon forgot to put your oil cap back on. This happened to a friend of mine who got his oil changed at one of these Jiffy lube type places once.
  • bearmerbearmer Posts: 37
    Somebody on the Vettenet mailing list used to call it Arrest-me Red. I think the best name I've seen is Slut-lipstick Red.
  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    And can tell me how many grease zerks there are on my 95 Deville Concours?

    Last time I think I found only 4, on the steering linkage.

    Is this all there are?
  • svconcourssvconcours Posts: 2
    Bolivar, there are only 4 grease fittings I grease on my 97 Concours, 2 for the tie rod ends and 2 for the ball joints. I just checked in my service manual just to make sure there aren't any more, and those are the only ones shown. Hope this helps!
  • 456ttt456ttt Posts: 13
    I had enough with the small problems with the 2000 DTS so I swapped it for a 2001 DHS. I used the $2,000 Cadillac coupon and Cadillac put in another $2,000 beacuse of all the problems I had with it. The DHS seems to be a much smoother riding car, gets much better gas mileage (about 2 to 3 MPG better) and has more ammenities (I do miss the 17" wheels).
  • 456ttt456ttt Posts: 13
    Caddy obviously got the message about the bad design on the visors for the 2000 and early 2001 DeVille's. My new 2001 (built in late March)has the new visors (they "hand down" about 3/4" lower and therefore can be turned up higher on the window and don't limit visibility. I don't have any idea if you can get Caddy to replace the old typw with the new ones as a "cust sat" change.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Hello all
    Haven't posted in weeks..Took the Deville and
    my truck to that 19.95 oil change place.Had
    the oil changed in both . The guy didn't know
    the northstar took 8 qts. Had to show him the
    owners manual. He didn't look too good. I think
    he might of screwed up on a couple of other
    caddies and put in only 5 qts!!!!
    Only charged me 19.99 plus tax. I showed him
    my $78.00 oil change bill from the caddy dealer
    in Daytona FL. He laughed...............Geo
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    I thought my 96 Deville only had 60k plus
    miles on it . As i haven't seen it in months
    as the boss had it in Fla. Its got 75K now
    I need my glasses checked !!!!!!!!!!
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    Why does the Northstar use 8 qts instead of 5?
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