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Volkswagen Jetta 2005 and earlier



  • malibu99malibu99 Posts: 305
    I think I asked the question incorrectly. In my Malibu when the key is ON ALL the warning lights come on to let me know the lights are actually working ( no blown out bulbs or so), but in her car only the ABS, BRAKE, SEAT BELT come on. Her Check engine light doesn't. I'm trying to tell her that this is not normal, that the engine light should come one briefly to let her know the sensor is active and working. She tries to tell me tehre is nothing wrong with it but I think it should. however I never have owned a German car so I could be wrong. Thanks for your replies and I hope I clarified things a bit. :-)
  • Yes. That is correct. The light should come on when you turn the key to the "ON" position and then stay on just momentarily after starting as the ECU runs through its checklist. After that is complete, then the light turns off if everything is normal.

    You friend needs to have her's checked. Could be as simple as a burnt out bulb.
  • I dont know...come to think of it I had a '93 Volvo 940 that had ALL the lights come on and stay on when the key was "ON" and the engine wasnt. The same is true of my father's 2000 Volvo S80 and my mothers Chrysler minivan. Perhaps there are some problems with the sensors then, sorry if i was wrong in that last post I misunderstood.
  • I know Volvos are Sweedish but I think that they are very similar to German cars. In fact, Volvo's 5-cylinder engines were (and I think still are) actually made by Volkswagen.
  • actually i think volvo builds the engine but bought the rights to make it from VW's audi division.
  • malibu99malibu99 Posts: 305
    tHANK YOU TO ALL FOR YOUR RESPONSE. She found out it was a bad bulb and had it replaced. All fixed now! Thank God cause she loves that car more than anything. :-)
  • Hi,

    I was offered a deal on Jetta GLS1.8T with
    5 speed
    Cold Weather Pkg
    Luxury Pkg (Power Glass Moon Roof & 15" Alloy Wheels)

    for 19,683 + destination charge.

    Is this a good deal? Please give me some advice.
    Thanks alot.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    How is the new car holding up? Are you still pleased? Doesn't it feel nice? I always thought mine felt like it cost a lot more than it really did....
  • This is a response to #338 by gwd17. I believe you are mistaken. There is no reason to think that an engine or transmission becomes "accustomed to" any particular style of driving (unless, of course, it is designed to by means of "fuzzy logic"). You may, of course, drive your car in the manner you describe, but you aren't doing it any favors.

    There is no reason to cruise at an engine speed any higher than the minimum that will produce smooth results (ie, avoid lugging). Running at a higher than necessary engine speed for a given mph is wasteful of fuel and subjects the engine to unnecessary aging (more rpm's = shorter engine life, all other things being equal).

    Unless I need to accelerate rapidly, I generally shift at about 3000rpm, until I reach my cruising speed. If this is anywhere above 40mph, I will be in fifth gear. No problems.
  • That's a good price on the 1.8T if it's a 2001 model. Did that come with the Monsoon system too?
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    "I always thought mine felt like it cost a lot more than it really did...."

    I agree 100%. Once VW starts losing its image as an economy car company, I'm sure they'll start raising their prices. I think it also looks very upscale. I love the heated seats with the weather turning cold in Wisconsin.
  • "I always thought mine felt like it cost a lot
    more than it really did...."

    So very well said, Justin!! That pretty much says it all in a nutshell about the Jetta, IMO.

    So, with that being said, we're going for our yearly "fall drive" through the country to photograph and observe the fall colors.

    It's a cold (20's), crystal clear day, so those seat warmers will be put to good use -- especially when we open the sun roof!! ;-)))
  • I've been using mine all week! I like the fact you can adjust them; in my Saab they were automatic if the temp fell below 40 degrees and you could not adjust the level of heat.
  • I just had to jump in, after lurking around this site for the last few weeks, I have finally bought my Jetta! Galactic Blue, TDI, manual transmission, GLS trim package, tan leather interior. I opted to buy a CD player aftermarket, but am already starting to regret having to deal with the hassle. This is one of the first 2001 Jettas the dealer has had come in with the extra side-curtain airbags. Also it has the multi-function steering wheel, which is a nice plus but I wonder what that means about adding a CD player?
    I LOVE the car, I really wanted good gas mileage, safety, and a little style and I just couldn't have found anything better. One small disappointment, about 10 miles down the road the ABS light came on and the brake light started flashing. So it is back to the dealer today to get that little glitch ironed out. But with all of the computer regulated operations on cars, it's not surprising. My husband bought a Subaru Outback a while ago, and in the first week the service engine light came on.
    The enthusiasm on this site is infectuous, and I am glad to join the group!!!
  • george83: Some models of both the Jetta and the Golf are hard to come by, so to pay sticker, for those models in short supply in your area, is not too surprising. But, definitely shop around!!

    galacticgreta: Congratulations and welcome to the Jetta club!! The Galactic Blue is an awesome color and you'll have nothing but fun! A glitch here or there is not unusual, as you said. If ya wanna get jazzed about the Jetta, just read jwink1's post!

    You can get an aftermarket CD changer to work!! read this information:

    The MF steering wheel changes nothing for installing a CD player or changer.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    meant MF (multi function) wheel...
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    is the MS steering wheel STANDARD on the GLX? Or is it a stand alone option?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I would think it would be standard, since the leather seats are.
  • All Jetta's are now being manufactured with both the MF wheel and side-curtain airbags as standard equipment. That does not mean they are on the showroom floor yet though...
  • Congratulations on your new TDI. I'm hoping to purchase one soon. Could you possibly tell me when your TDI was built and shipped? It should be noted on the window sticker or possibly on the door pillar once you open the driver door. Also, what part of the country do you live in? I am in the Atlanta area and have not seen the curtain airbag upgrade yet. I will probably wait till these are available before I get serious about purchasing. Finally, did you have to pay sticker or was the price negotiable?
    Once again, Congratulations...when gas prices skyrocket you'll have one of the best sedans around and getting 50mpg to boot!!!!!!!
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    I know I just got rid of my 99 Gen IV Jetta GLS VR6 in August. I can't stop thinking about it. If the stock does what people say in December, I think I am going to have to pick up a GLX.....I can't really think of any other car that I would want that fits my life right now. A Volvo S40 is close...I might just have to bite the bullet and pay for a decent parking place and hope for no "dings"....

    I envision myself with black leather this time, still auto tranny, and a nice dark red or dark blue exterior. Had black on tan last, but oh so hard to maintain! Has there been ANY engine spec changed on the VR6 since the redesign in 99? Still 174 HP and 180lbs of torque?

    My Hyundai is cheap, but, call me shallow, it makes me feel Everyone thinks I am CRAZY for getting rid of my Jetta, and I am starting to believe them ;) I thought I would be happy knowing how much money I am saving in monthly payments and insurance (all said - $300/month), but I am questioning my decision......what to do, what to do!?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    If you get rid of that Hyundai now (2 months or so after getting it?) you are going to be one sorry man. You will end up losing about $2000 or so and having to go negative on the loan. That's true with any car, and especially so with a Korean made automobile.
  • Hello all. I'm new to this forum. Am thinking of
    waitng for the April? 2001 release of the updated
    Jetta. I understand that, among other improvements, it will have the 5-speed automatic.

    Does the current VR6 have only 2 valves per cylinder? That would explain it's rather meager (by today's standards) power ratings. since it's 1992 (at best) technology does anyone have info on the '01 1/2? Numerous dealers tell me the Passat V6 won't be used (fitment problem?).
  • Hi all. I am a new user to this forum. I have a 2000 vr6 Jetta. I have read a lot about problems
    from check engine light and certain other engine problems. I must admit that since receiving it, I have not had a problem that I know of. The only thing I notice was some black stuff at the end of the tail pipe. Any idea why this is taken place. I also have'nt notice any performance problems due
    to that. So far I have enjoyed driving it and overall I think its a pretty cool looking car for the cost.

  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    The VR6 is only two valves per cylinder. It is a rugged engine though - designed for use on the autobahn. The power is smooth and seamless. The black tail pipe is normal. Happens on all VW's. I don't think they are the most emission/smog friendly cars, but i don't give a hoot ;)

    Vocus - you are right about the negative equity. But a sizable down payment would help.....or i would just keep the hyundai as my inner city driving car.

    this is all depending on stock options, as I said.

    we shall see! I personally don't want them messing with the VR6 is very reliable. My check engine light came on once due to me running the car out of gas.....had it reset and never ran it out of gas again!
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I have the same problem as you do. I have a 1999 Protege DX with 30K and I owe about $11K on it right now. Because of the high mileage I drive, the car is going to have negative equity if I trade now. I would love to have a Golf or Jetta right now, but not willing to trade a perfectly good car and lose money. Your Hyundai is brand new and even has a better warranty than the Jetta does. Thought it's nowhere near the same, it's cheaper to maintain and also, you don't have to be as careful with it. If I were you (which basically I am in the same situation), I would drive the Hyundai at least for a year or two and save even more money up before thinking about another Jetta. That would be the smart thing to do.
  • jwink1jwink1 Posts: 17
    Mine came with the MF wheel and side airbags, so I think that stuff is standard.
    The black stuff on the tailpipe is normal, just carbon, a little oil. All cars do that.
    As for the check engine light, is your gas cap on tight, 3 clicks or so?
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    why isn't mazda talking about the 2001 protege's?
    is there something wrong? every other car is updated already except for daewoo...
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    They are not talking because the car is being introduced in January as the 2001 model instead of now like everyone else's is. In the top-line ES model, the new standard engine will be a 2.0 4-cylinder good for 130+ hp. No one knows yet if it will be a Ford Zetec or Mazda engine. We shall see. Also, the 2.0 will be optional in the LX models as well. And the front and rear fascias and interior will see a minor change as well.
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