Volkswagen Jetta 2005 and earlier

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  • biggie2biggie2 Member Posts: 45
    Thanks,

    So what is this "process" i am thinking of. Maybe something to do with new car break in or something, before converting to synthetic??
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    The only thing I can think of is that some synthetic oils are soooo good at keeping an engine clean that they could release a build-up of crud that may plug up oil-galleries. Synthetic oil tends to be a very good solvent for the gum and varnish that dyno-oil leaves behind.

    If the inside of your engine is cruddy, you may consider doing a double-pump and change using synthetic oil twice before running it for long periods on each change.

    I beleive what you are thinking of with a new engine for break in is that synthetic oil will prolong breaking-in a new engine because it is sooo slippery. Keep in mind that "break-in" is really a slight wearing of the various parts so they 'mesh' with each other better. If you use more slippery oil... then this 'burnishing in' of the parts will take longer.

    Of course you are aware that any slight leaks with dyno-oil will leak faster with synthetic oil. This is because of 2 reasons
    1) Synthetic oil is thinner and more 'runny'
    2) Synthetic oil will remove any crud that is plugging the hole and slowing down the leakage.
  • balticjetta18tbalticjetta18t Member Posts: 146
    First off, I let the dealer use the 5w-30/40 Castrol regular oil as it was on the free maintenance including the oil change at 20k miles. At 25k miles it was at my cost and I let the dealer start me off with 5w-30 Castrol Synthetic Blend including labor and a filter for $29.95. They said it was better to let the engine break in on reg oil and then change to synthetic. The blend oil change was a year ago and I am now on my 2nd 5k mile term on 5w-40 full synthetic.

    As far as fuel goes. 93 without a doubt instead of 89... I have used 91 vs. 93 and find the 93 to perform better and get better mileage. Your results can vary with different brands of fuel too.
  • jettaedjettaed Member Posts: 2
    hey guys

    am new to cars and recently bought a used 2001 Jetta GLS 2.0 (4 cyl sedan)
    and now its time for an oil change. i need to know what kinda motor oil should i use in my car? should i use regular or synthetic? i dunno what kind i have in my car right now, so if i plan to out synthetic in, what do i need to do.
    also what abt the oil and air filters? should i change them every time i do an oil change?
    what are the gud brands I should look for.
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    I think the easiest thing to do is read your owners manual. The maintenance schedule will tell you what needs to be changed at a certain mileage interval. Depending on how many miles you have on your car will depend on what needs to be replaced or changed. If you don't have a owners manual.....go to www.vw.com

    For your needs, regular motor oil (not synthetic) will work fine as long as you follow the manufacturers suggested service intervals. No, you do not need to replace your airfilter everytime you get your oil changed. On the Jetta, it advises you to change the airfilter every 40K miles.
  • jettaedjettaed Member Posts: 2
    well, acc. to my manual I should get an oil change done now.
    Suppose i need to get the oil and air filter chagned this time (as my car has around 35K miles on it and am guessing the original owner must not have changed the air filter yet), what brands should I look for?
  • zmanzman Member Posts: 200
    Can anyone help me out with either of these questions?

    I am looking into an '04 Jetta Wagon GLS 1.8t. The Edmunds site has the Jetta Wagon listed as made in Germany/Mexico. Which is it?

    Also, Edmund's reports that it has road clearance of 4.1 inches. This is less than my New Beetle and frankly does not seem right, but I can't find the Jetta's dimensions on the VW website.

    Thanks.

    Zman
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    (zman) The only way to tell where it is 'made' is to look at the window sticker. (The wagons USED to be ASSEMBLED in germany...with the sedans ASSEMBLAGE taking place in Mexico.)

    Do not forget that the parts (engine, tranny...etc) are built all over the world and the vehicles are ASSEMBLED in Germany/Brazil/Mexico. Where it is ASSEMBLED dictates what colors are available. (there are some colors that are ONLY applied in certain locales) I am curious, why does it matter where it is ASSEMBLED? We live in a world economy.

    As for road clearance, that may be correct. The oil pan is VERY close to the road easy to damage if you live where frost-heaves occour.
    The VR6 and TDI are lower than the other 2 engine choices because they are taller engines.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    ... but this is a discussion about Jetta sedans, since it actually resides on the Sedans board.

    Try pursuing any other questions in the discussion at this link: Volkswagen Jetta Wagons.

    Good luck!
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    Actually, according to your owners manual, you need to change your engine oil at 40K miles, not 35K. You have a 2.0 engine so you should follow their recommended 10K service interval. You most likely looked at the requirments for the 1.8t and VR6 engines.

    Most any place you get your oil changed will be able to provide an air filter. Or...you can just go to Walmart and buy one yourself. A good brand is Fram. Also, don't forget to change your cabin (pollen) filter. This should be changed every 20K miles. I, personally, went to an auto parts store and bought the cabin filter and changed it myself. It cost me maybe $15-$20 at most. The dealer was charging around $60 (parts and labor).

    Again, read you maintenance manual and follow the service intervals for the 2.0 engine.
  • dayokayodedayokayode Member Posts: 31
    I currently work for an intl org in Costa Rica, where cars are extremely expensive and engine choices on certain cars are limited; luckily we don't have to pay taxes. For example, the v6 model of the Mazda6 is not available (the Mazda 3 only comes with a ~105hp engine). Although I liked the 04 160hp Mazda 6, it comes with even less equipment than one would get in the States at a higher price and the sales guy is largely inflexible. I went to the VW dealership and found that the 04 Jetta 1.8T had more power, torque and standard equipment at a comparable price. The people were also more friendly and willing to negotiate.

    Right now, I'm torn between the seeming reliability of the 6 and the Jetta. Did anyone compare these two cars and choose one over the other? If so, what swayed you in one direction or another? How's the handling of the Jetta compared to the 6??

    Thanks for your help!
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    (dayokayode) Before selecting our 2003 Jetta TDI, my wife and I tested, considerd, and dismissed many vehicles. We felt that the Mazda had a VERY rough ride. During our test-drive, I felt every nook-n-cranny in the road surface. After the test drive, when I asked my wife what she thought of the Mazda... she said it had a roung ride. (Her observation was independant of mine)

    In fact... the only 2 vehicles on our "short list" was the Jetta and the Nissan Altama. We ended up with the Jetta mainly because of the 12year/unlimited miles corrosion warrantee. We also liked the fit-n-finish, looks and 52 MPG of the Jetta TDI.

    Since several past VWs lasted us over 120K miles, we allready knew that it would RUN a long time. Here in Vermont, the salted winter roads will devistate most vehicle bodys after a few years.

    None of the other vehicles we looked at (except for the plastic Saturn) had a corrosion warantee longer than 3 years.

    Another reason that I personally do not care for Mazda is because it is really a Ford. (Some Ford/Mazda vehicles are actually built on the SAME ASSEMBLY LINE with different nameplates being atached at the end.)

    On the other hand, Many VWs are based on Audi platforms. This tends to bring the overall craftmanship of the VWs up.

    If you spend some time researching the lineage of the various vehicles, you start to realize where the best values are. A VW is basically an Audi with less options. (In fact, the 1.8T is an Audi engine)

    Acura = Honda
    Lexus = Toyota
    Infiniti = Nissan
    Audi = VW (and somtimes Porsche as in Cyanane=Toreaug)
  • jtrujillo86jtrujillo86 Member Posts: 300
    Yeah...sometimes execpt for the fact you can't get the Toreaug with the biturbo engine like in the $90K Porsche SUV :( That would be such an awesome setup...especially if you could get the Toreaug with that engine for only, say 50K!

    Jeremy
  • biggie2biggie2 Member Posts: 45
    I would not worry about the reliability of the Jetta. After five years of being on the market, it is more reliable than it has ever been. However in a few years a new Jetta will come out, making your relatively new Jetta look much older in comparison. The Jetta is a nice driver and the 1.8T is a great and fun engine. I would agree that the Jetta is not a rough driver at all, but that makes it kinda weak in the corners if that is your thing

    The Mazda is much newer. Reliability is generally average and on par if not better than the Jetta even though the current Jetta has been around so long. There is some rust problems under the weather stipping on the doors that has arised. Not sure what Mazda has done with this, and how good their repair is, or if the '04 have fixed this problem. Either way you definitely need to check this out because nothing is more horrifying on a car than rust. Do not buy a Mazda 6 untill you are reasured your car will not have this problem. The 6 is more of a drivers car, with harsher suspension tuning. Not meant to drive lush like a Camry, but more like a BMW. And the Mazda is more Mazda than it is Ford... expecially the chassis, but the Mazda V6 is Fords and the Mazda 4 cylinder is shared with Ford, but developed with Mazda.

    The Jetta 1.8T should have considerably more umph than the Mazda 6i, and a smaller back seat as well.
  • sys3175sys3175 Member Posts: 11
    Well, my 2001 Jetta which I just purchased about 3 months ago is sitting at a chrysler dealer (which it was purchased from) for about 3 days w/ a shot coil (though it took them these 3 days to figure it out) and a local vw dealer is taking it off their hands tommorow to do the repair I was just wondering if this could be the cause of my poor mileage. The jetta is getting about 20mpg mixed though my town is more towards highway then city (many higher speed no traffic light roads) my 1992 Beretta 3.1 V6 is getting almost 40mpg and is a much bigger heavier car (though I don't need to ride the throttle nearly as much however that could just be due to the way the throttle functions on these cars.. however I can coast at 50 in the beretta at 1,000 rpm, the jetta needs throttle attention and is pushing 2,000 doing the same). Also, I had not known if the 40,000 service was done so I took care of it myself a few days before I had the coil trouble (symptoms of which went unnoticed since i bought it, though it was just quirky) so I pulled out all the plugs, which I noticed were not oem, and were also not properly gapped. Unfortunatnly the car didn't work long enough afterwards for me to find out if that effected the mileage very much at all. However, this could have helped to do in the coils :) Possibly.
  • balticjetta18tbalticjetta18t Member Posts: 146
    Since your Jetta was a used purchase, then the Chrysler Dealer probably changed the plugs. I understand that VW is on the OEM's markings. NGK is a replacement brand that is good as actually shown to me at a VW Dealer Parts Dept. Besides, what engine is in your Jetta?
    Remember that the original powertrain warranty is 10yr/100k miles which is reduced to I believe 5yr/60k miles for subsequent owners. I would check directly with VW at a dealer or VW hotline.
    IN addition, I would take the car directly to a VW dealer and have them run a check for any service bulletins, recalls and warranty item extensions that would be done totally free. It would save a bunch of time and hassle as the Chrysler folks would have no idea about.
  • sys3175sys3175 Member Posts: 11
    No, Chysler did not replace the plugs they must have been done by the previous owner, they were far too used to have only been in for less then 5000 miles. It's a 1.8T btw, so I know the coils are problems on this engine and this year (it is a mid year 2001).The car is now at VW, it is covered under warranty I purchased from chrysler, the problem is I have to bring it to them first, and then they refer it to VW makes it take a little longer to get things done, but since it is for free I can deal with a few days with my Beretta. I only hope that this won't happen too often. Also, VW has no records that this car had ever been serviced for the coils before.. i do not know if they keep the info at a national level, but the car was registered in my area since new so it probably would have gone to them if it was repaired, that being said.. it has nearly 50,000 miles on it and if this is the first time the coils died, it seems to be way above average for this sort of thing.
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    Any time a vehicle is "serviced" in such a way that it costs VW to do the repair, there is a sticker affixed to the vehicle. (usually on the inside of the drivers door area.)

    If there is no sticker.... assume that the coiles were never done. Besides, you can check the "sufffix" on the coils yourself. Thre is a list in the the archives that explains which "suffix" was affected by the coil problems.

    I suggest you do some intensive research to determine if your engine was covered by the "replace all coils" TSB. If so, you are free to take to ANY VW dealership in the country without the knowledge of where you purchased the vehicle. (exactly what balticjetta18t was trying to tell you)
  • biggie2biggie2 Member Posts: 45
    It sounds like the coils and the plugs and other mis-adjustments made to the car is probably the reason for your poor gas mileage. However, turbos are known to have dual personalities. That turbo can suck gas like no other if you are not careful with the throttle, yet be very fuel efficient with a little more care.
  • lovejettalovejetta Member Posts: 4
    It's a sad day...I've decided to sell my 2001 Jetta GLX because of my bad left foot. I can't push on the clutch anymore. I just wanted to comment that I've had a great experience with my Jetta....no problems what so ever! I have about 50k miles on it. It's so much fun to drive...a great commuter car.

    I'm sure the manual transmission is better than the automatic so I'm not sure if I will get an automatic Jetta. Is there a big difference as far as responsive and power? What about fuel consumption.

    What's a good price to sell my Jetta at? The car is in excellent condition, with only some very minor scratches. The car is loaded and has a 6-cd changer. I live near Houston, Texas.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    You might want to ask Terry over in the Real-World Trade-In Values discussion. Take a few minutes to read through some of the messages so you'll see exactly what information you need to post for him to help.

    Good luck - let us know how it works out.
  • balticjetta18tbalticjetta18t Member Posts: 146
    How about an 03 GLX leftover with a 5speed TIPTRONIC Automatic Tranny. I am sure in Texas there could be some GLX's around since they are the most expensive version. In addition, there of course could be some super incentives including factory to dealer cash to further reduce a price and financing rates super low...
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Consumers' Most Wanted Vehicles for 2004 Survey is posted and ready for your input!
  • gambit293gambit293 Member Posts: 406
    Hi all,

    I just replaced the wiper blades on my gf's 2000 Jetta.

    Do you know that plastic thing that comes attached to the driver side OEM windshield wiperblade? It's supposed to be facing away from the driver and towards the hood once the blade is back in place, right? Also, what is that thing anyway? What's it for?

    Thanks!
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    (gambit293) By your description, you have it on incorrectly. This is an "airfoil" that uses the airflow rushing by to press the wiper on to the windshield.
    What you have done is akin to moving the rear spoiler on a NASCAR racecar to the hood ;-)

    The closer one looks at a VW, the more impressive all the little engineering attention to details comes into focus. I am, by trade, a deciple of engineering. I can attest that the ol' notion of "German engineering" still holds true.

    Here are a few other "German engineering" items that VWs have;
    *) hood-release that pops out when the hood is pulled up.
    *)Starter WILL NOT CRANK when engine is running and you accidently try to turn the key to "start".
    *)Virtually the entire interior is held together with precesion "snap-in" fitment.
    *)When you remove the fuel-cap, there are notches in it so it can be "stowed" on the open cover door.
    *)If the sunroof motor fails to work, there is a built-in tool to manually control it.
    *)There is a center sun visor between the 2 main ones that covers the area above the rearviw mirror.
    *)There is a cover over the rear of the headlights to keep the crud away from the electric connectors.
    *)DUAL oil-presure sensors so the DIFFERENTIAL can be monitored.
    *)"bypass" engine cooling design.
  • novanova Member Posts: 135
    Does any one know when the new jetta is due out. I am thinking about a 2004 GL, tdi.I would hate to see the new redesigned jetta show up in 6 months. I am going to the new york auto show next month. The dealership says it will not be in new youk show. It wont be out till april 2005 as a 2006 model
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    The consensus is that the next-gen Jetta will see the light of day in the North American market not before the middle of next year - say May-June '05 if you need a good target - and it is more likely to be later than sooner.

    I think a bigger concern should be that the Pumpe-Duse TDI engine we are currently getting will probably get a significant upgrade for the '06 model year, when the entire country is finally forced to use low-sulfur fuel [as opposed to just CA now]. The current PD TDI [the one being installed in '04 Golfs and Jettas] is kind of half horse and half camel - it has the old head and new induction system, and is running on the ragged edge of meeting current emissions regs. There are already a lot of complaints on the specialized TDI websites about driveability problems [shaky idle, hesitation, rough running] with the '04 PD TDIs, usually from those parts of the market [Canada and the Northeast and Midwest] where diesel fuel is especially sulfur-laden and cetane-challenged. I started out thinking I wanted to try one of the '04 TDIs for our garage, but have held back waiting to see how widespread the problem is and what VW does about it.

    Ironically, the Passat diesel that will be here in the summer is closer to the final form of the engine for '06 and beyond, but again, the thing would be less of a risk if the diesel fuel in so much of the country weren't...well...such crap.

    The ultimate, final irony is that none of the TDIs can be sold now legally in CA [or CA-conforming states], but CA is where the diesel fuel being sold is the best in the country - still not close to EU standards, but somewhere around 25-50 ppm of sulfur, I think.
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    I read in one of the trade mags this weekend and it said that the new redesigned Jetta will be available in the US early 2005. I would be surprised if we saw it then.
  • novanova Member Posts: 135
    Does any body know the hold back on a jetta. I use to be able to look up dealer hold back on any vehicle threw edmunds. I can not find it on the jetta
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    Just read that VW is laying off 5,000 people due to slow sales. I am guessing the layoffs will take place in Germany.
  • moparbadmoparbad Member Posts: 3,870
    Top Ranked:
    Small sedans: Honda Civic EX, Volkswagen Golf TDI, Volkswagen Jetta GLS TDI

    Jetta TDI is a great car and now Consumer Reports recognizes it.
  • 600kgolfgt600kgolfgt Member Posts: 690
    Come trade-in time, I plan on swapping my Wolfsburg Jetta for a 5th-generation Jetta TDI or Golf TDI (preferrably running on 100% BioDiesel)...
  • moparbadmoparbad Member Posts: 3,870
    http://autos.en.msn.ca/as/autoshow2004/article.aspx?xml=MorningCo- nferences2
    There is a TDI similar to the Wolfsburg that will be offered in 2004. It will only be offered in Canada. Lucky Canadians!
  • steveflstevefl Member Posts: 62
    This is a question from someone who has never owned a VW. I heard a Beetle owner say that if he disconnects the battery, the computer loses its settings and must be reset by the dealer. I thought a battery disconnect would leave the computer in its default(factory) state. But a Golf owner confirmed the amnesia, saying his car goes into limp-in mode. Is this all true? How can one service his car?
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    (stevefl) Good question!

    My understanding is that the radio will think it has been stolen and one must enter a code to get it going again. (this code is provided to the purchaser when vehicle is purchased.)

    I am not aware of any other issues that would force the need for dealer intervention after a battery disconect.
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    hi everyone. does anyone know, do the exterior changes for 04 for the Jetta sedan also happen on the 04 wagon? (obviously the rear spoiler on the trunk doesn't). what about the updated instrument cluster? on the wagon too?

    thanks.
  • moparbadmoparbad Member Posts: 3,870
    Chrome on exterior and new style cluster on 04 Wagon.
  • cptpltcptplt Member Posts: 1,075
    I know the manual says the tranny fluid doesn't need changing forever (what is it 80 K or 100K or something) but if I only put 6K miles/yr on the car from a time point of view when should I change it? There must be degradation from time besides mileage. They have that thing about changing the brake fluid every 2 years regardless of mileage.
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    1. transmission fluid operates in a close system. 2. Synthetic transmission fluid is specified 3. The recommended transmission fluid is VERY expensive. Having said that if you want a benchmark because it makes you feel better knowing that it is changed, do it at 100,000 miles which for a 5 speed manual transmission would be when a timing belt change and adjustment is also due.
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    (cptplt)

    RUKING1 has allready explained about the manually tranny fluid above.

    In reference to your comparison of brake fluid to manual tranny fluid..... these are as different as steel and alumininum. There is no comparison between them except they are both metals.

    Brake fluid is hydroscopic. (it wants to absorb water) and over time, it does just that. It eventually absorbs so much water that it becomes CORROSIVE to the brake compoents. At that point, the precesion pistons, cylinders and ABS components will start to self-destruct from the inside-out. This is why brake-fluid MUST be changed every 2 years.

    Read the label on any can of brake fluid and it will tell you to only use fluid from a SEALED container. If you open a can of brke-fluid and use half of it then put it on the shelf in the garage.... after some time, it will be so contaminated with water (absorbed from the air) that it has to be disposed of (envrinmentally freindly disposal please!)
  • cptpltcptplt Member Posts: 1,075
    so if I keep it in my tranny for 100K, that would be 15 years with the mileage I put on before I change it, assuming I keep the vehicle that long! What I would like to know is should I change it regardless of mileage at say 5 years or something???
    PS I have an auto if that makes any difference
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Three factoids: 1 You will see marketing for boiling points both wet and dry. 2 wet boiling point is defined at 3% three percent by volume of water. so 3% of say 33.8 oz (1 liter) is 1.014 oz of water (H20) (or .03 liter). (dry of course is out of a sealed can or NO water)

    3. There are testing strips and machines to test the useful life left in brake fluid. But for 5-15 dollars a quart or liter, it is far more cost effective to just flush it every 2 years. If you have access to it, then yes by all means test it!
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    "so if I keep it in my tranny for 100K, that would be 15 years with the mileage I put on before I change it, assuming I keep the vehicle that long! Ehat I woudl like to know is should I change it regardless of mileage at say 5 years or something??? "

    Ain't it cool!? :) One option is to half the 100,000 k mileage., or 50,000 miles. So that would mean 7.5 years.

    Don't be snookered into a guilt trip, by a technician telling you or even letting you smell the old gear oil. (stinks to high heaven whether it is changed at 10k or 100,000 miles)
  • edmund2460edmund2460 Member Posts: 293
    I am still driving a first gen (82) Diesel Jetta with 250K on it. The engine and trans haven't been touched but I've probably spent about 50% of the cost of the car on maintenance (includes regular). How do the newer models do over the long run? Does the higher mpg. outweigh the maintenance cost? I'm interested in buying a new one and wondering whether I should get a used pre 2004 instead of the current gen. Thanks.
  • ben222ben222 Member Posts: 11
    I recently bought a black 2002 GLS 2.0 Jetta with a standard trans. and I'm looking for little after market touches. My goal is to make it look european - like a BMW M3 - and certainly not "pimped-out." I'm thinking high profile tires, nice alloys, and I'd like to tint the windows so it looks completely black. Any thoughts about these ideas or new ones?
  • jbariljbaril Member Posts: 43
    I just bought a new 03 Tornado Red with all options (black leather); great car, but I'm finding the 17 inch wheels and tires a rough ride! They certainly look great. What tire size is recommended to replace them in, let's say, a 15 inch wheel that won't screw up speedometer, ESP, etc.? Has anyone done this with other than steel wheels and snow treads?
    thanks,
  • jbariljbaril Member Posts: 43
    Oh, yeah, another question: has anyone put a dash kit in their Jetta (or related vehicle)? You know, the carbon or aluminum look variety, available at several online aftermarket dealers. Are they cheesy? Do they last? Are they easy to apply?

    Any help or advice is appreciated.
  • uga91uga91 Member Posts: 1,065
    I am starting to believe that the new design will be out more sooner than later. I say this because yesterday I received a price on a 2004 Jetta GL 2.0 with auto and ESP for $16,352. This is about $1100 under the edmunds TMV. I asked the salesman when the new Jetta was coming out and he would not say. I'm beginning to think the new model will be out sooner than we think. Of course, this is just my opinion, I do not know for sure. I think I will hold off, though, and see.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    About this time next year...Spring 2005.
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