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I'll let you know what happens. I've been wanting a car that's a little more youthful than my Subaru. I'm getting closer, but am not quite there yet. If the increase is only $200, then I'll wait it out.
Does anyone know if the GLX will be getting the tiptronic auto with the V-6 for next year? If that's the case, I may wait until next year.
Thanks Again?
Also, I was on this almost empty road this morning on the way to work, and I hit the gas and let the 1.8 turbo RIP! I got it up to 110 before I realized how fast I was going.
I know with my 1.8T I'd probably come up about 1k short if I sold the car and tried to pay off the car with my sales proceeds. I'm still debating if that's a worthwhile deal.
I filled up for the second time last night with my 2002 VW Jetta 1.8T. On the last tank, I drove 228.8 miles and the car took 10.3 gallons exactly to fill it up. I drove mostly highway miles, but some revving up too. The average is 22.2 mpg I think. Is that good for a turbo with 700 miles on it?
Did the low fuel alarm scare you out of your seat yet?
I think I'm getting around 270 on a tankfull, mostly city driving.
I'm getting about 24 MPG after close to 6000 miles. My mileage has neither risen nor fallen from day one.
Economy: Moparbad, you have a TDI right? There is no way a 1.8T is getting that kind of economy.
If you leave it in the middle, you'll burn out your heater. Blueguy is being uptight as usual. Just dump your car and get a Honda, seems like a good fit for ya!
:^)
bluewolf: I think you're above post is going to get deleted by Pat.
But a base Jetta GL can be had around $16k, a GLS 2.0 for $17k, and a Turbo for $19k if you shop wisely. My VW dealer is also a Mazda dealer. The Mazda P5 is a nice looking car, but once I drove it, and took a look inside, it just felt like another flimsy Japanese car. They took the regular Protege engine and made it pretty with the P5 body, but it's a sheep in wolf's clothing as far as I'm concerned.
The 1.8T with 5-speed is a blast to drive, and award-winning engine that loves to rev, and terrific bang for the buck. Edmunds even said a year or two ago, who needs the A4, just get the Jetta with 1.8T, 5-speed, leather and all the goodies and you're there for less. The two cars are very similar inside as well, both share exemplary interiors.
The beauty of the 1.8T is that it's cheaper than the VR6, just as quick, and with a chip, quicker. But the new 24V VR6 due in spring will be the faster stock car, and a strong naturally aspirated six means you don't need to void your warranty and chip it to get a move on! I can't wait to drive that one.
BTW, anybody who pays $26k for a Jetta is a bit loony anyway. I agree that at that point it's time to look at things like A4s, Saab 9-3s, Subaru WRX, or a Passat!
Hopefully leaving the window heater on will start a fire in the car. Ah...that's be grand. :^)
BTW, there isn't a Honda made that I would own...well maybe an NSX if it were sold about 20k under MSRP - 80k for a 10 year old chassis/design is outrageous. That sentiment about Honda extends to Toyota, Mitsubishi, and anything American made. Really the next car needs to be European, a Nissan/Infiniti or Mazda. Still looking right now, chief.
Mirror defroster: I thought the mirror heater only goes on when you are using the defroster. And you have the option of turning the mirror heater off while the defroster is in use.
blueguydotcom: You would get a Mazda or a Nissan over a Honda! Shame on you.
I have had two Jettas. The heated mirrors are wonderful everyone. Read your manuals and stop whining! You bought a VW. They have quirks. Period. I think of a VW as car that you want to own. Other sedans in the price range (except for the silly looking WRX) might as well be mini-vans.
You know, seriously, Jettas and Passats are going to be for the 2000's what the Accords were for the 90's. The car that does everything perfectly, with just a little bit of style. Remember when the 92 Accords first came out....everyone wanted one because they just drove....I don't know.....perfect. And they were cheap, and actually looked decent in those days. The Jettas and Passats are the same. In a few years they will be no good anymore. Changed or altered too much. But the ones we have now will still be around - hot items - just like the old Accords still are now.
RSX? I'd sooner die..
Civic? Not a secretary.
S2000? LOL. I like torque.
Nissan's got the Max with a 6 speed (yummy), the upcoming Z, the soon to arrive G35.
Mazda's got the Miata, upcoming RX8 and 6.
Meanwhile, let's allow this discussion to get back to focusing on the Jetta alone since that is the purpose of this conversation.
Thanks.
Pat
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inadvertently coming unscrewed, falling out, the threads being damaged, engine block failure
around the oil pan area, or the threads in the oil pan area being damaged enough by an oil
service, either VW or other to cause total plug and engine oil blowout, with subsequent complete engine shutdown while driving on the HWY? Any problems at the Dealers with this
sort of thing? There is a VW Technical Service Bulletin out, Nov. 11,2000 on this "apparent"
problem; or maybe as a warning to stupid service personnel. I have not seem anything public
about a problem, and I no longer have an engine in my 2001 Jetta, due to this problem.
If that's the case, then I'll wait it out (as painful as it may be!!!)
I test drove a 1.8T with auto on Thursday night. What a blast! What surprised me the most was how solidly it felt. It felt more solid than my Subaru. And it was definitely more fun.
A couple other things that get me with the car are the fact that the horn doesn't work when the car is turned off. My boss has a Volvo though, and her's doesn't either. Maybe it's a German/Swedish thing. Also, you have to shut the trunk pretty hard, and it's difficult with a handful of groceries sometimes (thought that means it's solidly built). Also, the glovebox isn't lit at night unless the car is running. Weird if I wanna get something out after the car's turned off.
Overall though, I love the car and it does make perfect economic sense. With the mirror heaters, it's cool to be able to control them individually from the rear defogger (most heaters turn on with the rear defogger). I turned them on last night after washing the car, to dry them.
I would thus far recommend a Jetta to anyone who is looking for a sporty little car that's comfortable and ultra-refined. It's a great ride.
17" Alloy wheels and Tires $600 ($400)
Side Curtain protection $220 (standard)
Climatronic $540 ($350)
No news on the 6-speed GLI pricing yet.
All of the official distribution newsletters and bulletins are telling me that there is no 6-speed GLX, instead the GLI will differ from the GLX as below
+17 inch wheels
+sport seats
+sport suspension
+3 spoke leather wheel
-leather (optional)
-power seats
-rain sensing wipers/auto-dim mirror
-wood trim
What are you driving now? Forgive me, I have not memorized everyone's posts on here yet.
Extra horses aren't about need, they're about fun. I enjoy the heck out of my 1.8T.
As far as the planet is concerned, Why didn't you buy a Honda Insight or Toyota Echo?
I myself have a 1.8T, and the economy is pretty good. I get around 23 mpg, and that's not too bad. I used to get like 25 or so with my 2001 Protege when I had it, so 23 on premium is not too bad considering the power increase. I bet I could get that up to 25 or so if I would keep my foot out of that turbocharger.
I think you will find that the Jetta is just as safe as the S40. The S40 is an old design...older than the Jetta design I believe. The Jettas are getting good reviews, crash test wise.
The S40 is a nice little car, neat and tidy. Just not worth the money in my opinion. Get more with a Jetta....more power to start with
What happened to us? We had one helluva a fun ride. The little Golf took the hit, the safety glass sprayed, we did a 180 and came to a stop. No intrusion into the passenger compartment at all. No cuts, no bruises, no whiplash. Amazing. That event essentially sold me on getting a German car. Ever since then I feel VERY vulnerable in Japanese and American cars.
I can attest to the vulnerable feeling in a smaller car though. I had always driven Bonnevilles before I got my first car, a Cavalier. Then two Proteges, and now the Jetta. The Jet definitely has a "heaviness" about it though. Something I didn't feel even in the Bonnevilles. It feels like a very safe car.
phishockey: will there will be a 24V tiptronic GLS model? Would you have prices for that model?
justin: I still have my Jetta GLS VR6 with the 5 speed. Just a tad over a year now. Looking to get back to an automatic though. My next car will be either another Jetta (1.8t with the tiptronic) or the 2003 Accord coupe. It will depend on where I'm at in my love/hate relationship that I have with the Jetta. No hard feelings.
Love/hate with Jetta? Surprise surprise, I think many feel that way. At least you are never bored...;) Remember, who can tell the difference between an Accord and an Oddysey van? NO ONE! haha....thems just jokes..