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Also, you can go all the way to 220hp, but NOT with Tiptronic. You can only go to Stage 2 with Tiptronic.
I like the idea of APR because you can opt for the cruise control selector which allows you to switch the car between "normal" (ie factory settings) and "performance" (200 hp, 240 lbs.-ft of torque). This comes in very handy for trips to the dealer.
BTW, $1600 for 210 hp is steep. You should be able to break 210 with just an intake adjustment and of course a chip.
If you install a mod that breaks something (like a diverter valve from more boost) then just be honest about it and pay for the valve.
BTW, if you're someone who doesn't have the 2/24k service, it doesn't make sense to go to VW anyway for service as that's where dealerships make all their money: gouging customers for service work. The only reason to visit a VW dealership after 24k (never if you're a 2002 owner) is if it's warranty work, otherwise go see a professional you trust and not some dealer [non-permissible content removed].
What exactly does it do though? Does it lower the car so much that it looks ghetto-fabulous? Or just enough to make it perform in a different way somehow?
Thanks.
Personally, I'm going to go buy the H&R sport springs and the Bilstein shocks (after I finish computer upgrades ;^) )
By the way, lowering a car is ghetto? Gosh, guess those kids at BMW and Audi are ghetto. Have you looked at a 2002 Bimmer with 18s and the sports suspension? Or a 2002 A4 with the sports setup? There's almost zero wheel gap. Now cutting springs, THAT is ghetto.
I think a car looks "ghetto" when it's lowered so far that the top of the tire is tucked inside the fender. That's going past the performance advantage into the realm of 12" diameter exhausts and large wings.
no, i was just saying, i wouldn't want the car to be as low as the "dropped" Civics and Integras out there, you know, with the racing stripes, lighted up on the bottom of the car, with big tail-pipes and wings that are actually bigger than the car itself..;)
I know that just lowering the car doesn't do all that other stuff, but I wanted to make sure that others out there just might think that my "project" was not complete or something.
I only have the 15" alloys, and yes, there is a fair amount of "gap". I think the 17's that VW offers are too much though. I like the classic GLX 16's, or the Wolfsburg 16's. But, if the Eibach springs only drop the car an inch, that might just be enough to still look elegant, but a little sporty.
Are the springs, harder? Firmer? Or just smaller? Will the comfort of the car deteriorate?
Thanks.
I've been thinking about parting with my BBS 16s on my WE (get 17s instead). I have no idea what those 16 inch wheels sell for new. Anyone have an idea of what I might get for them?
Blueguy: Those wheels would probably command about $500 or more a set if they are pristine. Didn't you say before you were leasing your car or not? If so, you need to keep them and put them back on when you trade the car in.
As for returning the lease car with the factory wheels, I'm pretty certain VW will NEVER see my lease return. I'll sell it outright or trade it in first. Even if I did, with the 6 disc changer and swaybar I've added, odds are good they wouldn't mind nice 17s over the boring 16s on the car now.
I am new here and was wondering if anyone has ant opinions good or bad on this method of purchasing a VW? Do they use standard published residual values to base the balloon payment on?
Thanks,
Mike
why get rid of them though? in my opinion, they were the only redeeming feature the WE had going for it. truly striking wheels in my opinion.
so basically, the springs would only lower the car - not stiffen it up? what makes the car stop lurching upwards when i take off fast? doesn't that mean that the rear set up needs to be firmer, or that the front set up needs less play or something?
i don't mind the side to side ("roll" as you call it) at all, as i really don't see it as much worse than other cars. but, when i take off, i don't like that the front of the car seems like it lifts up. that fixable? my VR6 was so heavy up front, it never felt like that at all. it just did front end dives like he&* when it was time to stop the beast...and my 1.8T doesn't seem to do that as bad. guess cause the engine is lighter i am assuming.
i guess, what i hear people saying is, for my purposes, the extra money on different springs won't really fix my one issue, huh?
I settled on a WE because it at least had a decent interior (over the standard GLS) and the all important manual/sport suspension setup. Of course two months after I got mine, the 2002s started appearing (July!) with more power and a real warranty. Patience is a virtue...apparently I lack it.
Anyway, lowering a Jetta may influence the weight shift on take-off, but nothing drastic as far as I know. I'd ask on Vortex if I were you. I'm not really bugged by the car rearing back on fast take-offs. Now the roll...
The extra weight in the nose also might figure into keeping Justin's old VR6 down when compared to his 1.8T.
The the markups the dealer put is BS.
If you're in the NE PA area like I am, try going to Trend Motors in Rockaway, NJ. They gave me a great deal without all those dealership markups.
NE emissions is because of New York being in the NE region.
Pontiacs, I know, there's a slight delay and the speedo & tach shoot all the way, then returns to normal. It might be a way they reset themselves when you turn on the car.
If you want loud, drive a Protege ES with automatic. It buzzes along at 3100rpm at 70.
Meade
Vocus, you've got the auto, which VW geared more appropriately for freeway driving. The manuals aren't appropriately geared for freeway speeds. Logically at 55 the car should turn 2k RPM and then build by maybe 100-200 rpm every 5 mph. Turning 3200 rpm at 85 sounds nice and more reasonable. It's annoying for more than the sound as it also kills my gas mileage. On my old cruddy 2.4L Stanza I'd do 80-85 on trips to LA and get 30+ MPG with the car in 5th (nissan actually used a freeway gear). I've NEVER gotten anywhere near 30 MPG with the Jetta because the engine's never loafing along on the freeway.
is it possible that your car is not working correctly? well, dumb question, since in here, it is written in stone that it must be broken. it is a VW after all.
seriously, you can't hear my engine unless you press the gas. then you hear the high-pitched turbo noise. when at a stop light - not much at all. when i first start the car in the mornings in my garage, i hear it. sounds normal. actually reminds me of my VR6 - kind of rumbles a small amount for a second or two.
vocus - what do you mean with the tach? when i start my car, the tach jumps to 500-800 rpms, what ever the idle speed is. all my cars have done that. why would the engine speed up first thing in the morning? am i understanding the question correctly?
Are they coming out with a GT just like VW did for the Mk 3 Jettas? Or is it a typo...
Never heard of a 02 GT anywhere else.
Looks like the 6 speed would be the transmission that you need. It will be on the GTI 337 with the 1.8T.
Also, you might find something interesting. There was a 200-hp GLX at the car show here in Md. when I went. The "ASR" button we have on the dash is labeled "ESP" on the dash of the 200-hp models. I asked one of the roaming reps there, but he gave me a dumb answer, like he didn't know. So much for product knowledge.
Also, I average 24-26mpg with automatic and driving kinda hard (sometimes, sometimes not). So I don't know why you wouldn't get 30 or so in a straight highway trip. Going 80 might have something to do with it though..
hey - how many gallons do you get out of each tank? you have the tip 2002 turbo like me, just wondering how many you get before the gas light comes on.
i get anywhere from 260-280 before the light flashes (and usually scares me to death with that loud tone it makes at first).
i drive pretty much like you, but only hit 90 on occasion. 100 seems like automatic jail time here in VA
And 100 is not automatic jail time in VA. I have done it on 395 (on the weekend though) before. Hit 120 before on 95 North at like 2am on a Saturday night with no problems at all. I so wanna go to a race course or something, just to see how high it will go.
The tach does work, but I just notice dumb little things like that when I start the car. And it's not only in the morning, it's every time I do it. It's just something different, that's all.
you know what is strange, is that you can always tell when a MD driver is in VA - you drive like maniacs on our roads. what is wrong with you people???
i have gotten about 350 on a tank once or twice, but always on road trips where it was mostly highway, doing 75-80. yep, i sit in DC traffic usually.
Anyway, I know tire noise from engine noise. The engine is buzzy loud on the freeway (or anywhere I'm consistently going over 80). It's pretty quiet up to 75 and then the drone comes on and it begins to sound like bees. By 4k on the tach, it's as if those dreaded africanized killer bees got into my Jetta and they're playing with flourescent lights (the din, not the flickering).
BTW, it's not a big deal. I just wish my gearing allowed for a true freeway gear (less noise and better MPG). My friends still think the car's quiet. But maybe they're all deaf.
And in CA if you're doing 101 or more, then you get hauled in for reckless driving. 100 and below and it's simply a ticket.
I must say I'm so anxious to get my swaybar. I haven't been this excited about my car since it was new.