BMW 3-Series 2005 and earlier

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  • wabendswabends Member Posts: 102
    denk (#16135): Please post/send information on how to program the clown nose under the rear view mirrors to blink.
  • hpmanhpman Member Posts: 33
    Thanks for the info, very helpful!

    So I take it you did Cinqueterre in one day, or did you leave the car overnight at the train station?

    Can't wait to see pictures!!
    HPMan
  • bbell4bbell4 Member Posts: 34
    That's why I'm buying it in Phoenix - although they weren't much better - but at least I got a better deal. Tucson said the same thing - we don't need to go below MSRP - I said I do - and called Phoenix to place the order!
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    Allano - thanks for the tip. I knew about the flap. Noticed it while wife drove it home from the dealer. Makes sense though that it is it. That is exactly where the noise is coming from. I'll double check this weekend.

    denk - You are correct, I had my clown nose programmed to blink when the doors were locked too. I didn't want the alarm (will I regret this?) but wanted it to look like it would. I believe you can also set the horn to sound when locking and unlocking. My car blinks once when locked and twice when unlocked (I may have that reversed tho). Nice.

    yalesom - SoCal dealers... somebody mentioned Monrovia. While I didn't buy mine there, I have some acquaintances who have been buying BMW's there for over 12 years. That says something right there. If you want to up north a little bit, check out BMW of Bakersfield (ask for Dennis - 661-396-4040). He did everything he could to make us happy.

    Man, I am SOOOO ready to be home. I miss my family and I miss my BMW. I thought about getting custom plates, since my car is green, I thought about GRNBEEM. :) Wife said NO WAY! :)

    -Paul
  • dave330idave330i Member Posts: 893
    You'll hear the noise in stop-n-go traffic as well.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    I think you might have read that the FWD A4 has very little torque steer (the front wheels refusing to turn in the intended direction while accelerating). That said, the Quattro is to the Audi what the V8 is to the Mustang - it's their bread-and butter and what they are really known for. About 95% of the Audis sold in the U.S. are AWD and those that are FWD lose their value much much faster than AWD. And if you are leasing, a 3-series will typically be cheaper because it has higher residuals than the A4.

    rest: I went to an advanced high speed driving school at NHIS yesterday and I will try to put together a write-up some time today.
  • pap5pap5 Member Posts: 144
    If you can't do ED, you can't do ED. But you owe it to yourself to be sure the decision is fact-based.

    There is no minimum mileage requirement before turning the car over for shipment. You could pick it up and immediately drive it to the Harms location in Munich. In theory, you could then hop a flight back home the next day (if your system can stand back-to-back transatlantic flights and the fare doesn't have minimum stay strings attached). Do this off-season, and the costs are minimal. The only way you offest all the ED cost savings is if you turn the trip into a vacation, as many do.

    The 1,200 miles that EDers reference is the initial breakin period, during which you observe speed, RPM, and other restrictions. What's magic about 1,200 to EDers is that once beyond that mileage, they can really open up their bimmers on appropriate sections of autobahn and other high-speed European roads. Which BTW I didn't do, dropping mine off in Paris at about 1,000 miles. Poor planning.
  • denkdenk Member Posts: 75
    See cnorthrup's post # 16151--That is the same procedure I gave to the dealer to program my clown nose to blink when locked.
  • vkwheelsvkwheels Member Posts: 218
    yup I used Shelly in Buena Park. Dave Frick is fleet mgr & there was no flack to contend with. If I lived in an area where there was only 1 dealer I'd consider a broker like Steve Diamond of Eurobuyers to get a better-than-MSRP deal. I know this sounds like a plug & acknowledge that I'm just going on intuition so caveat emptor (sic) rules.
  • wabendswabends Member Posts: 102
    Thanks for the information; I will stop by the dealership soon to get it done.
  • mfeldmanmfeldman Member Posts: 140
    I hear mixed input. Do you apply it plain to a cloth or dilute it with water? DO you wipe it right off? Will you apply it right away to to your new 530? Thanks.
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    I apply it with a pad that came with my Klasse, body panel by body panel, wiping off each panel before I continue on to the next. Yes, as soon as I get my 530i here State-Side, I will be applying the Klasse.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • 1johann1johann Member Posts: 32
    Am still thinking about buying an entry level BMW. The German engineering and drive quality have me leaning toward BMW. Right or wrong Audi strikes me like a overpriced VW. This leaves me with the Japanese. I have owned Japanese cars in the past (Acura) and found the build quality to be fantastic! Question: Is the Lexus 300is a better built (longer lasting/trouble free) car than the BMW? Its performace looks pretty good compared with the BMW.
  • dundedunde Member Posts: 32
    I have a 2001 325xi. Recently it started giving a start problem in the morning. It just stumbles a little bit before it starts. The dealer has been looking at it over a week and tried doing all kinds of permutation and combination with fuel jet injectors, throttle valve, reset the computer etc etc. As per the BMW Engineer all the readings are within specified range but they havent figured out what the problem is. Then the Dealer called me yesterday saying that he has received a few more 3-series with the same complaint and he thinks that its something to do with fuel in the summer time while its still chilly in Upstate NY. However I find this reason hard to believe. Did anyone have similar type of problem and what did they do to fix it ? Any suggestion ???
  • silverprincesssilverprincess Member Posts: 75
    Shipo,

    Where did you buy it? Which one is it, the All In One? How often are you planning on applying it?

    Thanks!
  • mschukarmschukar Member Posts: 351
    Question: Is the Lexus 300is a better built (longer lasting/trouble free) car than the BMW?


    Take a look at: http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=3671 You'll find that BMW 3 series rank 15th in initial quality with 101 problems per 100 vehicles and the Lexus 300is is 25th with 110 problems. Based on this, the answer to your question is no, at least for initial quality.


    Regarding longer lasting/trouble free, how many 30 year old Japanese sedans do you see driving around? I frequently see BMW 2002's on the road, one I cross paths with most days on my way home from work. Same with Volvo cars that get hit pretty hard on initial quality, but seem to run forever.


    IMHO there are two types of quality/problems: the annoying little things that require a visit to the dealer to fix (cup holder breaks, window rattles, etc.) and those that strand you on the side of the road several years into ownership. Our Volvo has had it's share of minor problems, but I feel that it will last longer than most cars on the road.


    -murray

  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    Hmmm, well, I suppose it all depends on who you ask. I will offer you my own personal observations, as such, they will be open to interpretation, arugment, ridicule or agreement, as you mood suits you.

    Having just completed a 39 month lease on an E46 328i (since replaced by the E46 330i, the model line, not my personal car, which is being replaced by a 530i) the differences between the E46 and the IS are MANY.

    The performance is not the same, if I am not mistaken, the IS is faster 0-60 than a 325i, however, it is slower than a 330i.

    The IS seems to be a near match to the 325i SP in terms of handling and braking, however, once again, the 330i SP is still more capable.

    The IS300 has a fuel economy rating substantially less than the 325i or the 330i (with the latter of the two getting the best mileage).

    While the IS300 has nearly identical exterior dimentions as the 3-Series, it is substantially smaller inside (to the tune of 3" less overall leg room) and a slightly smaller trunk as well. If you need to put anything larger than an infant car seat in the rear of an IS300, you are out of luck.

    As far as design and build quality, any car (Lexus or otherwise) would be hard pressed to match the reliability of my 328i. Over the last 39 months and 40,000 miles, I have had two unscheduled maintenance events. Namely, two burned out taillight bulbs, which I replaced myself for something like $1.00 each. Along with the fact that most folks feel that the quality of the materials used in the 3-Series are superior to those used on the IS, and you have a vehicle that is tough to better.

    To be fair, some folks say that the new Infiniti G35 has actually out ISed the IS, in that the G35 is finally a worthy competitor to the 3-Series (assuming that you can get past the visual styling and don't want a manual transmission, for which you will have to wait at least six months).

    FWIW, there are two areas that over the life of the E46, have given BMW a bit of a black eye. The first was the Auxiliary Cooling Fan issue, where Siemens delivered a bad production run of fans that both quit (at the most inopportune times), and sometimes caught on fire. Thankfully, this problem has been rectified long since. The second was the “Light Steering” debacle, somehow BMW got it into their heads that their customers wanted cars with lighter steering (silly rabbit, Trix are for kids!), and “Obliged” us accordingly during the 2001 model year. Needless to say, the “Hue and Cry” that followed was enough to cause BMW to wisely re-think that move and to correct their mistake.

    Should you ultimately decide to go with the 3-Series, I trust that you will not be disappointed.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    I too have had that problem off and on during the "Summer Fuel Season", I ultimately traced it to the fuel as well. The only fuels that I now use are Mobil, Sunoco and Exxon, and since I became religious about staying away from Getty and the like, my start problems have been virtually nil.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • rfredarfreda Member Posts: 15
    can you please provide a link for info on ED? thanks
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    Dave330i, I don't know about you, but when I'm in stop and go traffic, I'm not behind my car listening to it. :)

    Too busy listening to the engines lovely tune along with music coming out of the speakers.

    -Paul
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    SilverPrincess,

    On my ex-328i, I used just the All-In-One, and was VERY impressed with how easy it was to use, and how well it protected. That said, on my 530i, I am going to use both the All-In-One and the High Gloss Sealant Glaze (which I have just recently ordered). Speaking of ordering, I ordered both products from http://www.properautocare.com.

    They seem to have a good price, and I have had no problems with them on either occasion that I have used them.

    RFreda,

    I just responded to your E-Mail, please check your mailbox. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    My engine started to hesitate oocasionally while starting it in the past 2 weeks. I've noticed it most often in the morning after heavy rain. I fill up with gas in Albany, NY most of the time so it may really be related to the type of gas they sell up there. I am not worried about it enough to bring it in just yet and I think it will go away.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,554
    I'll be venturing up towards your neck of the woods on Saturday (of Memorial day weekend) for a wedding in Winchester, MA and will be staying at the Westin Waltham/Boston in Waltham, MA. So if that's near you and you see a Silver Saab with NY plates tooling around, give me the finger and make me feel at home.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • tcn2ktcn2k Member Posts: 277
    My 325i recently had the same problem. It hesitated in the earlier mornings when i go to start it up. I live in the midwest and the weather is strange lately, it is hot as hell one day and cold another. I only notice it this past week ever since i filled up my car at cheveron (must got the "summer gas" deal). I was concerned like brave1heart, but did not want to bring it in yet. I was going to pose that same question here too. I think it is related to the "summer gas deal". They must do something to the gas because of the pollutions car creates and more traffic during the summer month due to vacations.
    Can BMW engine be that sensitive to gas? I notice this happening only if you leave your car over night and the temp drops during the night time. Mine hestitate twice in the past little over 1 week period. But please let us all know dunde, if your dealer finds anything. Another reason i did not want to bring my car in is because these problems requires a few night stay in the shop, and i don't have time for such things.

    Another problem i see is that when ever i wash my car, i would open my hood to dry the air duck area. But i notice that my steering wheel reservoir seems to have residue around the cannister like the top is not tight. It is tighten but i always have residue left over, so i have to wipe it every time. Anyone have the same problem. Since the lid don't have a rubber stopper, is the cannister designed badly? I am taking it in and have them check it when i bring the car in for oil change in the next month, but wanted to see if anyone is having the same problem.
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    Shipo,

    You use the all in one and the high gloss sealant glaze. Does the all in one serve as the washing liquid, or do you use something there before the all in one?

    -Paul
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    I use the Armor All Car Wash Concentrate to wash the car, and then I apply the Klasse.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,554
    Shipo

    Thanks for that link to properautocare.com

    I just ordered a bottle of Klasse polish and a bottle of 3M Imperial Hand glaze. One problem...this drought we're having here in the tri-state area. How do you plan to get around it? A Superbay (wash it yourself) or do you have some other way? I know you're not going to run your Saphire Black Beauty through a conventional car wash when it comes stateside!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    When you say "steering wheel reservoir" what are you actually referring to, the brake fluid reservoir, which is right in front/above of the steering column, or the actual reservoir next to the oil filter that says “ATF Only”?

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    Actually, I do intend on running my 530i through the carwash over in Westwood, NJ. I have been using that same establishment since I got my 328i, and there is not a single "Swirl" mark or any other surface imperfection that one would normally attribute to using a commercial "Car Wash" to clean your car.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • leenelsonmdleenelsonmd Member Posts: 208
    for the benefit or torture of the new people to the board.

    My experience with the BMW dealers in Houston is that they are arrogant, but I have found two salespeople (one at Advantage Clear Lake and the other at Momentum) who are terrific people and I would love to buy a car from either of them. They unfortunately will probably not budge much off of MSRP since the management of the dealers does not allow much more than about $500 off. As noted above all 3 of the 4 Houston dealers are owned by the same person and so this may be one of the reasons. The other reason is that the market will bear MSRP and this after all is America, You have gotta love it!

    Jinglejill: Get over the no negotiations hang up that you have. If you want a decent car you can expect to pay close to MSRP. Of course you may have a chance on bargaining for the G35, but I am not sure how it is doing in SA. The Houston G35s are moving off the lot with relative ease from what I could tell. If you want a "good deal" buy a Ford Excursion, I recently heard and add for $10k off MSRP. I am a little surprised that a seasoned bimmer owner like yourself would even consider the G35. If you don't mind, I copied this message from 35 vs 330 board to reiterate what Car and Driver said:
    Thanks for the CD article. It sums up what many 3 series owners have felt.

    "And even if the Infiniti had come with a manual and arrived in time for that comparo, that doesn't mean it would have beaten the winning BMW."

    "For Infiniti, the G35 is the first legitimate contender in the sports-sedan class. And for a division with about the same number of memorable cars over its 13-year life as the Detroit Lions had victories last season, it's damn well about time."

    "Our only complaint with the steering is its oversensitivity immediately off-center. It makes the car harder to drive smoothly and makes the body do a slight lateral wobble at turn-in that is unbecoming of a sports sedan."

    "The brakes are also guilty of this sporting faux pas. The pads take an overly tenacious initial bite."

    "When the going gets tighter, as on some of the narrow wooded passes on our route, the G35 lets you know it's no go-kart. Pushed hard into tight bends, the G35 feels almost as large as it is. Despite an advantageous 53/47 weight distribution (thanks to its rearward-mounted front engine and rear drive), the G35 will push wide of your intended line. Maybe 225s would work better. If it lacks the last bit of razor-edge precision of the 3-series out on racy roads, the G35 nonetheless is a satisfying driver with familiar and welcome rear-drive dynamics."

    "But the manumatic shifter isn't the only oddity in the G35 cockpit. In fact, the whole interior is odd. Control placement is not wrong; some are just not where you'd expect them to be. The power-seat controls are mounted in the inboard seat-bottom bolster, where they will surely be flooded with spilled soda pop.
    There are strange, tiny triangular cubbies sprouting from the center stack. There are two small glove boxes instead of one large one. There's a deep, covered cubby at the top of the center stack (assuming you don't get the $2000 optional navigation system). The dash vents rotate up and down in a motion similar to twisting a shirt cuff around your wrist. The downside is they feel pretty cheap doing so. And there's a piece of plastic mounted to the headliner above the driver's door with a slit in it to hold your parking card(s). We know this because imprinted on the plastic are the words "card holder.""

    "The wheelbase looks exceptionally long, the nose exceptionally low, and the tail short. Yet it sits hunkered down on the optional 17-inch wheels with a German presence. The only truly discordant view is the rear, with its 18-LED taillights."

    "Still, it looks good enough, in all respects, that we're going to have to organize another comparison test."

    This last comment is accurate. The G35 is GOOD ENOUGH.

    The G35 is an accomplishment for Infiniti, but it lacks the refinement of the 3 series and they still are not convinced that it outperforms the 3 series. Of course it does cost $8k less, but I argue that you do get $8k less of a car making them similar in value. It is true if you only have $25k to spend on a car and you happen to stumble into an Infiniti dealership and fall in love with the G35 and end up spending $35k then it is the right car for you. In that case don't even think about looking at the 3 series cause you will walk out spending $40k and it is likely you cannot afford it. Buy the most car you can afford. If you have really tight budget buy a WRX or wait for the Evo VIII.

    1johann -- I do not think the Lexus is in the same leage as the 330. The G35 is IMO the closest imitation available on the market now.

    Holeinone -- I would never use a pressure washer on a car. Just wash it the good old fashioned way every week even if it looks clean. Use a car wash soap, not dish detergent. ( I gave a long diatribe about 50-100 messages back about washing cars).

    Dave 330i - Well I have been reading too much of your stuff and I woke up at 3am this morning in a cold sweat thinking about getting 3 pedals versus sticking with the steptronic. This is what I decided: As you know I was going to get the PP, Xenons etc, but after reading all these posts I knew I had to at least add the SP to upgrade the tires and I figured that as long as I am upgrading for better tires, I might as well get the 18" (and I appreciate your comments regarding the unsprung weight above in this regard). So I have it set in my mind to get the 18" and I woke up and realized that I probably am a poseur if I spend all this money on these supersport tires and I am driving around with an automatic transmission. I am going to go with 3 pedals which I have always loved--the arguments of city driving notwithstanding. Thanks for the input.
  • leenelsonmdleenelsonmd Member Posts: 208
    Sorry yal.

    Had to say yal.

    Here is a nice technical question:

    Does any one know the weight of:

    1) The standard 205/55 R17 rims

    2) The SP 245/40 R17 rims

    3) The SP + 255/35 R18 rims?
  • genie1genie1 Member Posts: 398
    I wonder if any of you have had the following happen or an explanation. My car has started perfectly every morning, no matter how cold. Petrocanada's Winter formula works pretty well in this respect.

    However, if I've driven for a while (say 45 minutes city and hwy), and park/turn ignition off, then it sputters a wee bit if I have to re-start it right away.

    I sometimes do deliveries (no, not pizza!), where I have to turn the engine off, then re-start it within two minutes and be on my way. I've almost come to expect the sputter, and crank it marginally longer. (But it's embarassing to not hear that engine growl on a dime like it usually does every morning...) Do I need a new battery? Or is it something else? Any ideas?
  • dundedunde Member Posts: 32
    Its good to see u guys around in this forum still. Braveheart I live in Albany NY and I fill only Mobil. Maybe I should try Exxon and see what it does .. but I need to get my car back from the dealer. For the last 1 week I have been driving a Camry and its so boring .. but hey it starts in 1 shot. After all this discussion it seems like gas could be an issue. I cant believe this car could be so sensitive to gas on the first start of the day. But I will keep u folks posted whatever the outcome is. Thanx.
  • tcn2ktcn2k Member Posts: 277
    The reservoir right next to the oil filter, aka ATF oil.
  • dave330idave330i Member Posts: 893
    Congrats. My feeling is, for this much money, one should get the car one really wants.
  • vkwheelsvkwheels Member Posts: 218
    Certainly pink is, but IMHO not steel blue. What do you-all say? Results will be tracked & posted on Mother's Day. Comment was made by a salesman.
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    Given the reputation that car salesman enjoy (;-)), who cares what they think? If you like the color, go for it.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • genie1genie1 Member Posts: 398
    I can't consider Steel Blue a chick color. IMO it's not as aggressive as black, but it's certainly no coral, pink or lavender.
  • genie1genie1 Member Posts: 398
    do you have any idea what could be causing the occasional start-up problems I've been experiencing? (as referenced in my post made earlier today)
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    I just checked the reservoir on the 328i in my garage that I don’t officially have any more (;-)), and it is a little damp with ATF oil as well. I checked the cap, and it is a compression fit angle type seat seal (similar to how a cylinder head valve seals). It does not surprise me that there is a little oil on the outside given the fact that typical power steering systems have oil fluctuations of an inch or better in their reservoir during operations. That said, the cap must allow for the pressure to equalize with each fluctuation and given that the oil is probably sloshing around in there during operations, it is not at all surprising that some seepage occurs.
    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    I have a theory, however, I need to ask a question first. Is this symptom most likely on a warm/hot day?

    A fairly common problem with pressurized fuel injections systems is known as “Vapor Lock”, which occurs when the fuel in a fuel line boils from engine heat saturation after the engine is shut off. This condition, when it occurs, causes a bubble or bubbles in said fuel line(s), and can cause a difficult re-start. Once the engine/fuel line(s) have cooled below the fuels’ boiling point, the problem should be non-existent. I do not know how the Canadians formulate their gasoline, however, it is known that some additives (such as ethanol) can make the fuel more volatile, and as a result, said fuel is more likely to cause Vapor Lock.

    Also, if you do successfully start an engine suffering from Vapor Lock (many will refuse to start at all), the engine will sputter for a few moments until the bubbles have been flushed from the fuel lines.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • mchwemchwe Member Posts: 23
    i have just purchased a 330ci 2001 with 9000 miles on it. it has the sport package and michelin pilots.

    i didn't notice it at first, but there is quite a bit of noise that sounds like mild grinding, while going at slow speeds. i notice it when the clutch is down, and it is not engine or brake noise.

    is this appropriate to have this much road noise with the sport package? i am otherwise thrilled with the car's acceleration, braking and steering responsiveness. i also have the luxury package, and the interior is just beautiful!

    thanks for your comments!
  • genie1genie1 Member Posts: 398
    your explanation sounds plausible. I have no idea about Canadian gasoline formulation but I do believe that they use specific additives in winter.

    The only time I have this problem is when I've driven the car hard for a while, then tried to restart it right away. If it sits for a while then I have no start-up problems at all. I can't say I've noticed any pattern relevant to the temperature, but we have had a mild winter this year.
  • seivwrigseivwrig Member Posts: 388
    I made a mistake back in my post about my CD changer. For anyone that is doing ED and want to buy a CD changer in Germany that will work in an American spec BMW, the P/N is 65 12 6 913 388. The tax in Germany is 16%. I paid 335 euro, so add 16%(53.60 euro)= 388.60 euro. At today's rate, this would make the unit about $345. If you can get someone to buy it tax free, that is even better.
  • wabendswabends Member Posts: 102
    nyccarguy: you will not regret buying the Klasse All-in-One and the sealant. Prior to finding out about this product, I went through a wide range of waxes and selants. But since I started using these products, my cars have been cleaner for longer periods. A step-by-step description of how to apply these products facilitates the proces. After you apply the sealant, try putting any object on your hood and see what happens: it just slides down in the same way a clean slanted mirror surface cannot hold an object and that is when you realize that the protectant is working (real armor!).

    Regards,
    Wabends
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    Boston - L.A. via a very short stop in Detroit :o)
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Member Posts: 2,698
    I too use Mobil - mostly the one off exit 23 of the Thruway. Speaking of dealerships, I've used Capital Cities a couple of time and they seem like a well-run and personable dealership. It's interesting that they quoted $55 for bleeding my brakes vs. $80 from Keeler (sp?). What's your experience with the Albany area dealers?
  • smithermanmdsmithermanmd Member Posts: 4
    vkwheels:
    steel blue is not a chick color. you will not look like a pansy driving a steel blue bmw. i don't necessarily agree with genie1 that it's not as aggressive as black. i guess the darker colors are more "aggressive-looking," but your aggressiveness will be assessed by those around you based on how you drive. not that being overly aggressive is a good thing (people on the road will just think you are driving like an idiot), but there's nothing wrong with having a little fun with a nice car. no matter what color the car is (my favorite is black sapphire metallic), keeping it neat and clean and taking care of it says a lot more about you as the manly owner of a nice car than the color does.

    leenelsonmd:
    i liked your random things post despite the fact that it was slightly longer than the average post;)
    i wholeheartedly agree with your decision to get three pedals instead of an automatic. when i get mine, that's definitely what i will buy. driving should be an enjoyable experience. with a quality piece of machinery like a 330i SP/PP/18inchers (i guess i shouldn't leave out the bixenons just to be complete), going to and from work can be much more fun with three pedals. go for it.
  • woobahwoobah Member Posts: 21
    Hi all, I have loved reading the posts on this board. I am posting this on the 5 series board as well. Here is the deal: I would love to purchase the new 5 Series BMW, but it looks like it will not be out until 2003, and I have been reading a lot of posts about letting the bugs be worked out of a new redesign of the first model year. So, it could be another two yeas before the new 5 Series is ready for purchase.

    My question is: What is the best way to go now, in terms of buying a BMW? I want to get a BMW that will give me a good resale value in two years, so I can move up to the new 5 series. So, should I save some money over new, and buy a 2000 or 2001 3 Series, 5 Series? Or, should I buy a new 3 Series, or 5 Series, which would give the most value from the needs I have listed. Thanks for any comments or suggestions.
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