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"I don't know", she responds.
So, is 'plood' a color or an area? Or something else? And where is the word derived from? (Sorry about that last part, but inquiring minds....)
Thanks.
TB
If it was the latter, and we could get an MPV in Millenium Red, that would be great, but I don't like the GFX package as much, especially with that awful silver insert.
It's really disappointing that Mazda wouldn't offer the MPV in some kind of red. There was a picture of a one-off MPV that Mazda Speed put together for the launch of the 2002s in Truckin' Magazine that looked REALLY SHARP in Millenium Red.
I wouldn't mind so much about the lack of more color choices, because I like the Black and Midnight Blue Mica, but my wife is really bummed about it. She enjoys having a sporty red car, and really likes how the Chrysler/Dodge vans look in red. I think we would have a 2002 MPV in our garage right now, especially with the incentives going on, if Mazda would have wised up and done the right thing.
Why would they tease consumers with the one-off custom MPV in a beautiful red anyway?! That's just torture...
She said that Mazda has a habit of changing small things during the year....at least how they arrive in the U.S.. Anyone else heard of this. Again, I'm talking about the insert places on the door handles and around the dash insert areas that are a plastic on the lower end models or have been a woodgrain on some ES, etc..this new look has a high tech finish look to it that is really cool.
Also waiting for a reponse on my old post about those of you who have had an MPV for a while now and how you like the smaller interior compared to other mini's around. Anyone out there go from a Dodge/Chrys/Plmth mini to this MPV and are satisfied with the smaller, but sporty feel?
Again, rear hatch and inside between wheel wells is some 5" narrower than the Chrysl.minis....
Thanks.
As to the size that's personal. I did not need a larger van since I only have two kids. No more coming since I'm pushing 40. The van parks in the garage with plenty of room. It also handles better than the larger vans. Your needs may be different. A good way to look at it is to balance needs with wants. :-)
Dennis
But if it is let me know so i can bore you with all the sordid details (scary thought).
I also often hitch with my officemates 2000 dc, but I won't be able to provide tape measure comparison (yikes... even scarier thought).
We found we didn't need all the space the GV offered, and MPV has had 0 (zero) return visits to the dealer (other than the damager the dealer did delivering the vehicle)
The GV wasn't a bad minivan (probably the best you could buy then) but did have two or three minor issues. The wipers would turn on for no apparent reason (dealer replaced switch assy) and the stereo would not play tapes (dealer replaced head unit)
Probably wouldn't have traded it if wifey didn't put the big dent down the side of it.
TB
And handling? The only thing I miss about the Plymouth is the smooth transmission it had. The MPV has it all over the Voyager in road handling, especially cornering. As a matter of fact, I got rid of the 94 because of its lumpen handling. In this thing, I drive it like a car because I forget I'm in a van. When I finally trade it in, it won't be because I need more space or I'm tired of its roadability. On the other hand, when my neck finally fractures from hard shifts . . . .
RJ
If you have not bought your MPV yet, here's the info you requested -
Cash Price = $ 21,569.00
Accessorites + 895.00
Sub Total = $ 22,464.00
+ Doc Fee 45.00
+ Sales Tax 1,856.99
Total = $ 24,365.99
- 2,000.00 (Mazda discount)
- 500.00 (grad discount)
Overall Total= $ 22,442.00 (addl. license fee and trade-in payoff amount)
Hope that helps.
I found much easier to talk to their Internet sales person instead of doing a walk-in.
BTW, thanks to Tbcreative for the response about the ashtray.
Wider was better until I went to park it in my garage. ;-)
Pjd58
Just for fun: Wife and kids just drove to Angel Fire NM today. She tells me the boys were just giddy driving through the mountains with the windows down. I drive it home next week for our first serious miles, after two weeks of ownership now.
BTW, you can buy my GC just as soon as I get it out of the shop. After most of 8 weeks in, the entire wiring harness is having to be replaced. This on top of new trany in Feb. at 133K miles.
Pjd58
Hoop: I have an OEM spoiler that I ordered from mazdastuff.com, but I've yet to install it. If you decide to buy one, be prepared to precisely drill 4 holes. On 2 of the holes, Mazda recommends using a 3/4" Michigan Drill bit which will set you back $38. You could probably use a metal hole saw too, but I decided to get this one. I think the spoiler is going to look great! I can't remark yet about it's dust/dirt/rain deflection abilities. When I get the bit, I'll post my install results.
There are some carry over colors so check with your dealer for availability. Also it is available primered(paint to match) as P/N 0000-86-3000-00 for a few dollars less.
The following requests was posted over at mpvclub.com (by rogda), but I thought I would place my request here as well.
My Dealer is convinced that he has an LX (not sports) with a heavy duty rad minus the 16" alloys. His position (which is wrong) is that the heavy rad is standard on all MPVs and the towing package is really just the alloy and 16" tire upgrade. Anyway, in a few days when I go to see the car to possibly pick it up, I want to be able to say this is or isn't the heavy duty radiator and larger tranny cooler. Unfort. not sure how to identify the larger radiator. There are not alot of MPVs on the lot, so not sure if one or the right one will be there for comparison.
Is there something that distinguishes the rads apart from size...someone mentioned maybe number of fans. If size is it, would someone mind popping their hood and giving me rough height, width of the the standard rad and/or heavy duty one.
Not sure how to identify the tranny cooler. Got some good tips re: this on another forum.
Thanx much
Rman
Of course, I'm not sure what's wrong with looking at the window sticker.
Nice intercom system you got rigged up there too, malt. I heard it all the way over in the Frozen Foods section.
Since I live on a dirt road, I can tell you the spoiler makes no difference in dust build up. At least in my situation. Granted I have to drive much slower which allows the dust to catch up to the van. I have about 1800 feet of dirt road to travel each day. However, The look of the spoiler more than makes up for it's inability to keep the dust off the back of the van. I bought one of those dust mops and wipe the van down every other day. Love that spoiler. ;-)
Anyway, I was fully expecting this car to show up without a manufacturers windows sticker. Maybe it will. And yes, I guess the towing package option should be specified there. But I am not holding my breath on it being there.
Thus my question re: the physical characteristics of the cooler and rad.
Thanx
R.
TB
Just in from seeing Mama Mia
Any word on your FAIS for the 'other' car?
The only thing I noticed was the 'cheap' pull out cup holders on the pass side of second row seat. Also, the drawer under pass. seat has no lock and seems small and fragile compared to the old one on my DC. IT has a lock and is bigger for junk.
I see where the 03's are offering many features on the LX's that were only on the ES's in 02 and have eliminated the Luxury Package. I like this idea. Don't know how pricing will be affected though.
Thanks! – TBC
Now for the issues. The auto mirror is just not worth the cost. The temp on mine is about 20 degrees off. It read 135 when I left the dealer and never got below 127 while driving, even when driving slow on a dirt road. I figure it was about 108 out today. Compass was accurate but I always know which way I going anyway, so not much benefit. One draw back is there is no longer a dimmer tap since it's auto. Now I can't flip the tap down to shift the mirror so I can take a peep at the kids in the back. :-(
I'm still waiting for the auto-dim mirror I ordered as part of my deal to show-up. Based on your feedback and other feedback that I have read, I think that I am going to try and get a credit and bail out of the mirror. With the window tint on the back window, glare is less of an issue.
Thanks again
Rich
Bill
To install the backs, no drilling is needed. You may need to trim some plastic for one bottom screw (again there's 3 per guard). The plastic is not seen and is part of the wheel well.
Pictures and some brief instructions here (Adobe Acrobat Reader needed):
frontmudguard.pdf rearmudguard.pdf
-Brian
I'm the type that does ALOT of comparing of like vehicles before I take the plunge...so it's great to hear some of the good and bad of experiences. Thanks.
Steve
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