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Toyota Echo



  • fangio2fangio2 Posts: 214
    LAMBORGHINI,but then again I'm not politically correct.
  • ml91ml91 Posts: 26
    I have only owned my Echo for a few days, so I am not exactly an authority on this subject, but I will offer my opinion on the consumer complaints that I read by following the link in the above post: (1) "Hydraulic drill noise": the person who filed this complaint also posted a review on another Web site which mentioned this problem. If this is a legitimate defect, it must be an isolated incident; otherwise there would be similar complaints posted here and elsewhere on the Internet. (2) Brake failure: I suppose this could be legitimate; there is also a good chance that the driver is attempting to blame the car for an accident that was caused by him following another vehicle too closely. (3) Pedals too close together: nonsense. I wear size 12 shoes and I have no problem operating the pedals on my Echo. (4) Windshield replacements: I don't know what the problem is here, but it sounds suspicious.
  • I agree. Some of these complaints do sound suspicious. I am an original owner of a 1989 Tercel hatchback which has never given me any of the problems presented under the complaints listed for the tercel, and believe me, there were far more problems listed for this model than for the echo, given the same timeframe. Just goes to show you can't always judge a car by what you read. There are lemons and lemonhead drivers in every car class and category. I'm still very impressed with the Echo by what the members here say about their cars.
  • fangio2fangio2 Posts: 214
    For instance a review of the 2001 Honda Accord LX v-6 critizes body roll,tires,ride and poor exterior quality.Then it ends with calling it a quality,refined car and names it best family sedan.
    I reread the Leganza reviews and I guess the handling.ride tires and exterior quality wrer not lousy enough to get Edmund's approval.
    Enjoy your Echoes and hope next year Toyota sends a better fruit basket to the Edmund's reviewers at Christmas time.
    The Honda Accord review can be found at the home page.Click family sedans.The review is dated may 30 2001.
  • I have no problem with Edmunds not liking my car. I just want them to get the factual things right. Is that too much to ask?

    After all, Lexus aka Toyota has paid Edmunds a lot of money, I hear. ; )
  • mccallrmccallr Posts: 19
    I just bought a 2001 5-speed Echo and love it! While I only have 51 miles on it, I like the way it drives around town and on the highway. The 6 speaker AM/FM/Cassette/CD player sounds truly awesome! In fact, the sound rivals my 2001 Grand Am Monsoon sound system. I hope I get the great mileage a lot of people seem to get. I'll let you know once I fill up.
  • Welcome to the club. I remember when I bought my 5 speed Echo, but that was about 10 months and 15k miles ago.

    In fact, I just got back from the service department getting my 15k maintenance done. I have oil changes done every 5k.

    The cost was $159 and change. The service advisor said they also recommend a front end alignment at 15k for an additional $64, but I turned them down. I have had no problems with the car that would indicate an alignment was needed.

    The service department goes beyond what Toyota specifies in the book. This service department also replaces the transmission fluid. Yes, even on cars with manual transmissions.

    In and out pretty quick and overall, very happy with the work.

    One thing I noticed that the emergency brake is a lot tighter. Tighter than it had been even when new. Car also seems peppier.

    Mazda may have that cute catch phrase, but we Echo owners know where the real zoom, zoom is.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Sorry, have do disagree with you there. Take your Echo into a long, sweeping turn off an off ramp at nearly twice the speed and see if you are still saying zoom, zoom. :)
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Twice the posted safe speed? Ummm... your criteria of what a non-sports car should be able to accomplish is a bit optimistic if not dangerous.
  • dsgechodsgecho Posts: 89
    Having driven a 2001 Pro for several months now the car is made for manuevering well by all means. Nevertheless, the echo on a 300 mi. recent trip took the TN backroads in the rugged Cumberland Plateau area just fine. And it got 54.7 mpg for the trip. Lots of cruising in fifth at 50-60 mph for much of the trip is the reason. But I wouldn't have wanted or been able to safely go faster in any car.
    Nashville, TN
  • Twice the speed of what? You really did not say.

    As far as going fast down or up twisting ramps, I already have. : )
  • Welcome back to this board.

    But why the Pitcairn flag?
  • fangio2fangio2 Posts: 214
    imperial gallons.If not you have outdone the Major in outrageous Echoing.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    I REALLY put the ECHO to a severe test of its handling abilities this weekend. I was traveling on I80 looking to get on the exit for 17n when someone cut off a tractor trailer ahead of me. I was in the left center of four lanes and this truck comes all the way over three of the lanes and just about STOPS right in front of me. I was going about 55 and had no time to touch the brakes its was just crank that sucker left as hard as possible to miss rear ending the trailer then another quick crank to the right to keep from going into the guardrail. The car just HAD to respond or it was whammo right into the trailer. After that experience I have no reservations about the handling of the ECHO at all!
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    What were the three top reasons for purchasing your current car? I'm assuming if your a regular in the Toyota Echo Discussion you own a small sedan of some type. I'm interested in, what sold you on your current car!

    I'll go 1st. These were the qualities, I looked for when shopping.

    1.) Roomy Interior-
    2.) Value Pricing-
    3.) Attractive Styling-

    Thank you in advance!

  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    I've been lurking the whole time, but you seem to have things well in hand. I just haven't had enough to add lately.

    ... and the flag, if I told you, I'd have to.... well you know.

    I'll follow this thread and add to it when I can. My job has changed and now that I am in the finance office, I don't get as much dirt as I used to.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,694
    1) a small, economical car

    2) a car with a reputation for quality (which I thought would be a Civic)

    3) a good price ($13.1k out the door vs nearly 16k for the Civic)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Never had a problem taking a 25mph ramp at 50 in my car at all. Leans some, of course. And I only do it when there are no other cars around me and the road is dry. But the car can handle it. Would it be any better if I were doing it in a Toyota Celica as opposed to a Mazda Protege? I have done the same ramp in both (on the way to work, I take this exit everyday), and they hold the road the same, but the Celica had alot less body lean.
  • I know the basis for the Pitcairn flag. Just did not know why you are using it.

    And don't kill me for knowing. Someone posted the reason on a public board.
  • Did you know that the ramp speeds are generally 10 to 15mph lower than what the ramp can actually be driven? And some ramps you can drive even faster than that.

    There is one ramp I take a lot where it is almost three-fourths of a circle and the merge lane is very short which means I have to take the lane at a high rate of speed. I believe that it is marked 25mph and I have taken it at 45mph. Yes, the car leans but I don't feel that I am in any danger.

    Thank goodness for the acceleration capabilities of the Echo though. There have been times where I have been stuck behind cars that waited at the top of the ramp which forced me to come to a stop. With the quickness of the Echo, I was able to go from a standing start and merge into the traffic.

    My point is that Mazda vehicles are not the only one with zoom, zoom.
  • When the time came to get a new set of wheels, I wanted a compact or subcompact. I just like cars of this size.

    I wanted something I could feel comfortable that it was going to be of good quality and reliable down the road.

    I wanted to feel safe in my car and this meant more than actual crash protection. This also meant good accident avoidance.

    High performance was not something I was interested in. I wanted my car to be one that kept up with the majority of cars in its class (and do a good job of keeping up with the other occupants of the road). I did not care if my car would stomp the cars in its class.

    I wanted something that was fairly roomy inside since I do have two almost grown children. Rear seat comfort was important although I would probably never be riding back there.

    I am pretty much a frugal person so price was something of a consideration for me although I had toyed briefly with the idea of leasing a BMW 3-series.

    I wanted something with very good fuel economy numbers. My '93 Escort left me spoiled in that regard.

    Styling was not a big issue with me. I mean it ranked way down the list. Having said that, I really like the styling of the Echo.

    I looked at the Mazda Protege, the Ford Focus, the Nissan Sentra, and on, and on, and on.

    In the final analysis, the Echo rung my bell the hardest.
  • janbeejanbee Posts: 127
    Is there a point to the off-ramp story cause you are leaving us in the dark. Major was not taking any jabs at the protege, he never once said anything negative towards mazda. So please dont jump to your guns and make little comments here then jump back to the protege board to razz everyone up there because most of us looked at the protege before buying the ECHO and have nothing but good comments about it. I decided to go with the ECHO because of the Toyota name and I just love how quirky and odd the ECHO looks but that doesnt mean that I dont love the protege as well and I think most ppl on the ECHO board can agree with that.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    See the line in my post about non-sports cars. The Celica may not be a true sports car, but it is close. The Celica rides much more harsh than the ECHO but does handle better. Cornering ability is a trade off with ride comfort.
  • sluglineslugline Posts: 391

    On a $128,000 sports car, a center-mounted instrument pod is "a nod to the past" by the manufacturer and is in the end "appreciated." If a company attempts to to do the same thing with a vehicle one-tenth the sticker price, it can't be anything but a "cost-cutting move." <WINK>
  • 1. Large on the inside, small on the outside.
    2. Great gas mileage.
    3. Great reliability.
    And if I can add a fourth: Easy ingress/egress.
    If they had made an AARP version of the new Civic it might have been in the running, but I didn't like practically laying on the ground to get in and out of the thing. The seating of the Echo and the Ford Focus are the trend of the future now that people have gotten used to vans and truck-based stationwagons.
    Then, there was the price difference...
  • Did the difference in quality between the Focus and the Echo have anything to do with it? By quality, I mean the number of recalls.
  • How has my Echoing been outrageous?
  • According to one source, if I were to private sell my Echo tomorrow, I would be a few dollars ahead. Not too bad.
  • The details are blurry, but I really put the braking and accelerating capabilities of the Echo to good use tonight.

    Remember the entrance ramp I posted about. Well, just a few feet down the highway from the entrance ramp is an exit ramp.

    A lady was (evidently) wanting to get off when I was getting on and rather than her slowing down and letting me on, she stayed on her gas and then swung in front of me.

    Problem was I was accelerating and did not really know what she was doing. A turn signal on her part would have been a big help. I had my turn signal on indicating I wanted onto the highway.

    I went from accelerating to decelerating back to accelerating in just a few seconds.

    The Echo did all that I asked.
  • fangio2fangio2 Posts: 214
    Think about it-someone would pay more for a used one then a new one?BUT,if it is true,lets go into business-we can buy new ones and sell them as used.
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