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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans



  • bigrobnhbigrobnh Posts: 114
    To the best of my knowledge, there is no simple replacement. The MB/Bose/Becker/Alpine system makes extensive use of fibre optics and, I believe, powered speakers. If you find a way, please post it here. I'd give alot to have a CD in my dash.

    BTW, if you're planning on replacing the system, why buy the MB CD changer?

  • rayscarrayscar Posts: 70
    Thanks for the feedback cdimarco2. I'm having a little buyer's remorse about my 500. Forgot about the lux and gas guzzler tax and the base went up $1K which is already much higher than a 2002 E430. I'll probably stick with it and cut some other expenses. Everything I read about this car is all positive.

    Thanks again.
  • john01john01 Posts: 246
    it is 0% starting 1/1/2003, I believe.
  • r1_97r1_97 Posts: 181
    When will pricing detail be available for the new E and its options?
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I'm interested in comments from those who have driven the new E320 and especially E500.

    I compared last fall and elected not to replace my sedan. However, I am reconsidering for this fall/winter/spring since I like the current 5-series and don't like the direction BMW has gone with the 7. When I compared the 530i to the E320 and 540i 6-speed to the E430, although the E offered more room, I found the BMWs to be tighter in handling and steering. Both the 530 and 540 were equipped with BMW's "sport package". The E430 was too, but I don't believe the suspension was any different, just the tires and aesthetics. Has the new E improved in these areas? Is the new E "sport" really any different in handling? Thanks.
  • rayscarrayscar Posts: 70
    Here are the base prices. Option list is to long to post.

    E32 is $46,950, $2k less than last year (less standard features).

    E500 $54,850, $1K more than last year (more standard features)

    Don't know why Edmunds doesn't have this info yet.
  • drjyothidrjyothi Posts: 12
    i have a 1999 e320 with 46K mi. the warranty will expire in a few months. Doe anyone have any experience buying an extended warranty for this car and if it's worthwhile. I may keep the car a few more years.
    should i expect it to be very reliable?

    thanks - drj
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,024
    As with most expenses, it's going to be a cost vs. risk analysis for you personally. Maybe otheres can share with you what problems they've experienced down the line in ownership, but you also might want to weigh the cost of purchasing an extended warranty at this point.

    A question about purchasing an extended warranty would be perfect for our Finance, Warranty, & Insurance board.

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  • bmms8bmms8 Posts: 86
    hey rays car, i already posted them :), im fom mbworld to, i dont know if you have seen me though
  • Just bought a 00' E430 without a spare tire. Can someone tell me what is the size of the tire and rim size. Also if an ordinary steel rim with 5 holes will suffice? Thanks.
  • mbe2003mbe2003 Posts: 12
    Here are the option prices I got from my dealer for the 2003 E320:

    Factory CD (in-dash) $400
    Keyless Go - $1015
    V60 Phone - $1595
    Panorama Roof - $1500
    Power Rear Shade - $440
    Rear Side Shades - $320
    Premium Sound - $700

    It looks like most options went up about 2% over last year. At least the CD changer is finally in the dash. However, I have been told that the car comes with a single CD player standard.
  • rayscarrayscar Posts: 70
    mbe2003 looks like the same pricing I got for my E500
  • rowlandjrowlandj Posts: 254
    You should re-visit the E this year as there is now rack-and-pinion steering and a totally new air-matic suspension. Both have made a dramatic change in the feel of the E and there is no way to compare this new model to the existing E's. There is also a new braking system which may or may not be as noticable in day-to-day driving but again it may be worth your while to look.

  • bmms8bmms8 Posts: 86
    those options are the same on every car...except if the e500 comes standard with any of them....and those arent teh whole sheet man...there is a whole lot more..e1,e2,e3,parktronic..aimatic...metallic paint...there is a lot more
  • jean7of9jean7of9 Posts: 192
    I bought last month the 3 years extended warranty for my 99 E320 4matic. My present milage is 44k km (28k miles). Even at this low milage I wanted to tag excellent repairs to peace of mind. Over this period the warranty will pay for itself multiple folds.
  • mall610mall610 Posts: 24
    Did not buy an E in 2002. Was disappointed in both ride and road noise. However, did not want to spend 80k to get a "S". Has anyone driven both 2002 and 2003 and have a good comparison.
    Also...need the command system which I understand will not be out until Jan. Anyone have any advance info on new system. The old one was a joke compared to Lexus. Thanks.....
  • mbnut1mbnut1 Posts: 403
    The current E has rack and pinion
  • wnielwniel Posts: 97
    The tire size is identical to the tires on the 2000 E430. It was not a space saver tire. The existing wheel of the spare was a limited mileage wheel and only made for a maximum of something like 5K miles. I don't remember the exact mileage but is listed in the owners manual. With regard to any other wheel, be sure that it's a 17" wheel and has the proper width to accommodate the wide low profile tire.
  • mbdrivermbdriver Posts: 426
    Actually, any wheel that fits/accommodates the lug bolt pattern/dimensions will be adequate as a spare. About a year+ ago, I took my 2000 E320 to the dealer for service. Months later my neighbor was comparing his new BMW 530i with my MB, and when we opened my spare tire compartment, it was empty!

    My service advisor said that happens (theft) every three or four years. He tried for an immediate replacement and finally located an E-320 wheel from a totaled E in their body shop. It's a standard 16" E-Class wheel that will work fine as a spare with my upgraded 17" wheels and 235/45ZR-17 tires.
  • mall610mall610 Posts: 24
    When are the 2003's going to show up? The dealers here in the Seattle area give a range of August 25 to September 10. August 25 is just 4 days away....can't believe no one knows the exact date. Is it different all over the Country or are they "unveiled" all on the same day?
    Tough to get much information here even though we have 2 large dealers in the Seattle Area. Actually there are 3 dealers within a 50 mile radius. Anyone know??
  • bmms8bmms8 Posts: 86
    the actual date is monday august 26th. That doesnt mean that they will get cars, depends on how big they are. But that is the realease date. Also, your dealer should have all the info, like prices, brochures, and everything else to do with the car, so hope on the morning of the 26th, your dealer has a big semi parked in front of it
  • aldo10aldo10 Posts: 1
    I checked several NYC-area dealers on 8/23 - launch day - who all quoted MSRP for new 2003 E-320. Not willing to sell for less. Does anyone know of dealers anywhere in Northeast or Mid-Atlantic willing to sell for less?
  • bmms8bmms8 Posts: 86
    yea man, no one is going to give any back..ppl will buy them if they are over msrp....there are too many ppl waiting for this car than they can give out......u should deposit a car before the 26....after ppl will se them on the streets they will go crazy.......i deposied my car in feb....and i am getting it in hurry up man
  • rayscarrayscar Posts: 70
    I agree, you won't find a new E for less than MSRP anywhere if you find it that cheap. This time next year you will see discounts. I didn't want to wait so I orded mine knowing I'd pay sticker but I'll get to enjoy it immediately rather than wait. The extra money was worth it to me. Can't wait til October when mine E500 arrives!
  • I ordered a E320 in July with purchase price set at MSRP. I have seen actual cars August 25th at
    Dealer Sales Meeting. They will be worth the wait. My car was off the line on Aug. 5th. According to my sales person ship was to arrive on Aug. 24th. So they should be at dealers the first week of Sept. Ordered a Platinum Blue Met. with the Sport Pkg. as shown in the small hand out brochure. I don't think a better deal than MSRP will be out there for quit a while.
  • rab5rab5 Posts: 12
    Changing my own oil, as always. This time, rather than getting under the car, I will pump through the dip stick. Question: Can I attach my oil pump to the TOP of the dip stick tube and pump oil through the tube? (does the tube go all the way to bottom of the oil pan?) Or, do I need to use my own tube inserted down the dip stick tube? Many thanks..........
  • First off let me apologize if this question is dumb. I do not mean to insult all MB owners. I am looking at buying a used 96 or 97 e320 for my wife. Is the reliability true when people say these cars will last into the six figure mileage range and still run good? Thanks for the replies and again sorry for what will probably be a no brain question to MB owners.

    Taxi drivers in Frankfurt, Munich, and Stuttgart routinely drive their Mercedez 250,000-300,000 miles before the first overhaul on the engine. That's in stop and go traffic. Unless you live somewhere near the ocean or in a high snow area with lots of salt use, you should be able to get that kind of mileage easily here in the States. I'm planning on at least 200K on my E model before trading it.
  • footiefootie Posts: 636
    Hi iwantaporche -

    I think that dustoff156 is right. It's true for many cars today that they will run into the 200K range. For example, my daughter's 1986 Toyota Camry LE is right at 200K now. I know several people that have kept MB's that long too.

    What you need to get comfortable with is how much it will cost to do that next 100K on a MB. Parts prices can be VERY high and unless you have a very good private MB mechanic, you will get soaked by the dealers.

    So, if you are intent on the 96/97 E-class, the primary issue will be the service history on the the MB you buy. I always recommend that folks buy used cars from 'loving' owners with service records. A car with a one dealership or one mechanic history is often a good choice.

    Call every auction house in your area and tell them you are interested in picking up an E-class from an estate sale. Sometimes you get lucky.

    You should also research the particular year MB through consumer reports and places like Certain model year MB's seem more problem prone than others and the whole last decade has not been a bright spot in MB's quality history. None of their automobiles has made the JDPower Initial Quality top 3 in the last seven or eight years as I remember.

    Good luck. If you find a good one, they are indeed keepers!
  • tomotomotomotomo Posts: 57
    I have a Topsider Oil Change Vacuum pump that I used to change oil in my 01 E320. In order to extract the oil from the oil pan via a vacuum device I believe that you must insert a small tube into the dip stick tube until it reaches the bottom of the pan. I think the oil is actually pushed out by atmospheric pressure since the pump produces a negative pressure inside the pump's reservoir. Anyway, mine did an excellent job.
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