Volkswagen Passat 2005 and earlier

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  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    Do you have the Homelink in your visor?
  • shrinermonkeyshrinermonkey Member Posts: 58
    thinking of getting a passat wagon.
    2000-2006 era
    are there any years that are better than others?

    Over all, how has the quality been with VW and these cars in particular?


    Don't do it. Every year is equally bad for reliability. Quality is very poor and good dealer service is almost non-existent. In fact just before I wrote this I just noticed my Passat Wagon now has a malfunctioning turn signal relay. This is the 3rd electrical problem with my car in the last 3 months (63k 6yr old car).
  • blueberry01blueberry01 Member Posts: 5
    Volkswagon Friends

    I have been searching and searching for a complete exhuast
    system for my 2001 passat just to add a little engine tone
    to my car.Has anyone out there been able to find one?

    mark
  • dsaxendsaxen Member Posts: 4
    Yes.
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
  • kvikkvik Member Posts: 10
    Since 2006 Passat is not anymore build on more expensive Audi platform/hardware in Germany like the previous model (2001.5 - 2005), it's not anymore considered as the best value among the VW line of cars. As a matter of fact, the new Jetta and Rabbit (ex-Golf)are all built on the same platform/hardware as Passat with the only substantial difference - the size.

    In this regard, other important features like gas mileage and cost of ownership should be considered when choosing 2006 Rabbit vs. 2006 Jetta (both seems a better value overall than Passat right now factoring-in the price).
  • kvikkvik Member Posts: 10
    Recently I noticed a broken spring under my 2001.5 (New) Passat GLS driving seat. The question is whether this spring is a part of the one-touch automatic movement feature of the driving seat?

    If yes, is this fix requires VW service attention and how approximately cost (CA)?
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    Well, first the Passat is still built in Germany. You are correct that it no longer shares an Audi platform.

    Value vs. cost vs. size all come into play. It might not fit your best value judgement if your needs don't dictate a car that size, where a Jetta might work for you.

    Personally, I'm waiting for the next Jetta wagon to decide if I stay in the VW fold when we replace our old Honda Accord. I figure I have at least two or three more years before I have to worry about it, though.
  • kvikkvik Member Posts: 10
    In reply to your message. When making your decision make sure you take in account the following things depends on whatever is more important in your case.

    1) First of all, you have a much better/enjoyable handling & safety characteristics with VW built car (more standard features included for the price) than Honda. It's well known fact about the driving experience with German designed cars compared with Japanese's platforms/hardware. There is no surprise that VW is the largest volume sales manufacturer in Europe (like Toyota soon-to-be in America), also winning year-by-year in "value" category among many competitors (more safety/economy/standard features for the price).
    2) Second of all, the gas mileage. Even if Honda has in its line one of the most economical gasoline engines it's still behind in this department when considering VW most advanced diesel or some of the other economical gas engines they provide with. VW is developing a diesel/electric engine they believe is a better proposition that gas/electric, including on American market.
    3) Reliability and Cost of Ownership, in this department Honda is ahead as Toyota is, with an exception of Honda Accord Hybrid (one of the Honda's failures in the economy/cost of ownership department).
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    One thing you left out - satisfaction with the dealership network (or lack there of) in the U.S. I think it's the number one complaint I read on a variety of Passat forums here and elsewhere on the web. People are willing to put up with the quirks of the car for the unique pleasures of driving it. But nothing kills that spirit like dealer apathy or neglect.

    Even now, I see posts where some dealers are not using synthetic oil in the 1.8T. Where requests to VWoA Customer Care for the "sludge" letter is greeted with "What letter?" Poorly written owner's manuals that don't simply come out and say "use synthetic oil." Owner's manuals tht say "just go to the dealer for headlight bulb replacement."

    Owning a Dub is not as easy as owning almost another car. If you aren't either anal retentive or obsessive/compulsive, the car and it's sophisticated engine can get an owner into deep, expensive trouble.

    Don't get me wrong. I like my car and it gets excellent care - but VW can't automatically count on me for buying another VW when I need to purchase again. There's simply too many options out there, many with product life cycles half of VW's.

    PS: You didn't mention tht VW won't be selling any diesels next year in the US market due to compliancy issues.
    VW Drops 3 Diesels in 2007
  • kvikkvik Member Posts: 10
    According the auto press, the diesel engines can boost a car or truck's mileage as much as 35% compared with a similar gasoline engine. VW's diesel salesin U.S. have increased in 2006 to a 20.4%. A new diesel Jetta that meets emissions standards in all 50 states including California should be available in a year, for the 2008 model year. Since this fall CA gas stations also will have low-sulfur diesel at the pump, that is a requirement of the new VW diesel engines.

    As far as, the VW dealerships, I did not experience any problems in Northern CA for 6 years of Passat ownership, except that I need to be in the service for electrical repair more often than when I owned Toyotas!
  • dsaxendsaxen Member Posts: 4
    I can't seem to find post #1935. Any suggestions? Thanks!
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Have a look here - those posts have been moved: jim97501, "Volkswagen Passat Electrical Problems" #2, 19 Jul 2006 10:22 am.
  • dsaxendsaxen Member Posts: 4
    I unplugged the Homelink connection, which apparently also feeds the vanity light, and this seems to have fixed the problem. Never been so happy to hear my horn!

    THANKS!
  • pdslaxpdslax Member Posts: 1
    Hi,

    I am a current owner of a Mazda3, and I have found it quick and nimble to drive, but the crash testing results make me paranoid. So, I am looking at a 2002 v6 and a 2003 v4, and I need advice from real-world owners. Which of these would you take and why? (They have similar miles on them and the same price) I have read about many reliabilty issues on the 02 but not as many on the 03. Is there something that I am missing? Any help would be appreciated!
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    The 1.8t will require more detailed maintenance requirements that the 6. If you go with the 1.8t, make sure ALL oil changes were done with 100% Synthetic oil EVERY 5K miles.
  • mvcarsmvcars Member Posts: 7
    Hey Folks, Does anyone know of any of specific extended warranty programs offered by VW itself ?! For eg, Honda offers extended warranty program such as Honda Care for Honda and Acura vehicles.. I was wondering VW had similar offering.

    My VW Passat 2001 is beyond factory provided warranty and I realize I'm late in seeking out for extended warranty but better late than never.. The car hasn't had much issues but I'd just prefer a peace of mind by having an extended warranty. If you folks have good experience and pricing with any of extended warranty 3rd party providers, please feel free to enlighten me.. Thanks much in advance !!
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    How far beyond the factory warranty is it?
  • mvcarsmvcars Member Posts: 7
    Well, the original factory warranty came till 50k, I had extended warranty till 80k.. I am around 82k right now.. Like I said, I have had this car since 2001, plan to keep it for another couple of years atleast and if it stays good enough then may be alittle more..
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    That is allot of miles to get an extended warranty. I am sure you would find a 3rd party warranty company, but the cost may be prohibitive!!
  • mvcarsmvcars Member Posts: 7
    yea, you're probably correct, thats a lot of miles to seek out an extended warranty... i am simply looking to explore options (if any)...
  • rogsmithrogsmith Member Posts: 2
  • vjyvjy Member Posts: 27
    I am planning to buy a used Passat 1999 model(4 cylinders, 1.8 turbo engine) which has 60,000 miles on it and the price is 8000$, comes with leather interior. I really like the look and I have not test driven it yet.

    But after reading the forums, I really feel if its worth, since it seems many people have reliability issues. Let me know if its worth going for it. If so what are the issues that I should talk with the dealer about?

    Also please note that this will be my first car and I am not that knowledgeable about cars.

    Thanks.
  • krzysskrzyss Member Posts: 849
    oil change every 5000 miles and oil that was used (magic oils meet VW 502.00 spec).

    Krzys
  • vjyvjy Member Posts: 27
    Thanks for the reply. But I have decided against buying. I went with my friend for a test drive. There was some vibrations which I felt while driving (in the seats as well as the steering wheel). Also when we tried to go beyond 50, the engine was making sounds as if its just trying too hard. So I felt if we drive in the highway it might not be that good.

    So dropped the idea for now.

    Thanks
  • mauraomaurao Member Posts: 2
    We have recently purchased a used 2000 Passat sedan. The key is now stuck in the ignition. Does anyone have experience with this problem?
  • car1313car1313 Member Posts: 1
    I just sold my 2000 vw passat to my brother and he just had the same problem happen to him. Did you find a solution?
  • mauraomaurao Member Posts: 2
    No solution yet. But the following day we were finally able to remove the key. Still wondering what caused the problem as it will probably happen again....
  • v_dv_d Member Posts: 89
    should I use Mobil 1 0w-40 in Toronto, Canada (it`s kind of cold in the winter -20 is quite usual) or should I stick to the rec 5w-40 on a '03 Passat 1.8T?

    What difference does it make anyways? Oh.. and how often should I make oil changes, from what I read about 5000 miles is the limit and that`s like 7000 km... that`s fine right?
  • krzysskrzyss Member Posts: 849
    manual says 502.00

    Krzys

    PS The oil I am using (Mobil 0W40) meets more recent spec.

    PS2 Should I have said 502.00 or higher ?
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    "PS2 Should I have said 502.00 or higher?"

    Kinda, sorta, maybe. The VW/Audi oil specifications are a tad confusing in how they were numbered. In your query, the "...or higher?" part might lead one to believe that oil that meets the VW 505.00 spec would be better still when compared to either the 502.00 or 503.01 specs. That is unfortunately not correct as the 505.xx and 506.xx oil specifications are intended for diesel engines. That a few oils happen to meet 502.xx, 503.xx and 505.xx (Mobil 1 0W-40 for instance) simply confuses the issue further.

    For a quick primmer on the various published specs from VW & Audi, take a peek at the following post of mine from March of this year:

    shipo, "Volkswagen Passat Oil Changes & Issues" #8, 10 Mar 2006 8:48 pm

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • michellerisiusmichellerisius Member Posts: 1
    I have had problems since purchasing new my 2005 Passat with a oil/gas smell. The smell emits while parked in the garage or when idling for an extended period. I have had the car in for service 3 times with no luck in correcting the issue. Any ideas? I am lost! :cry:
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    I suspect the charcoal/evap cannister has been flooded or is being flooded regularly. Are you "milking" the gas pump when you fill the car up? If you are, stop doing that, when the pump clicks off, pull the filler out and hang it up.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • diondonnediondonne Member Posts: 8
    1999 VW Passat 1.8 Turbo -- Had engine replaced at VW and for the first week I smelled that smell. They tighted head bolts and all was well again
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    I'd also check the back of the engine, near the firewall - you'll need a flashlight to see down in there. Sometimes the valve cover gasket will leak back there.
  • v_dv_d Member Posts: 89
    Hi once again,
    this time another issue, my friend that has the '03 1.8T Passat is thinking about a chip tuning (just that - nothing more), the car has 70k on it and the warranty`s up at 100k. Will the chipping 'kill' the warranty? He was thinking about an APR if that makes any difference (they say on their website that the APR chip is undetectable by normal VAG diagnostic tools the dealers use, but if something goes wrong will they figure it out?)

    Thx,

    vd
  • zscottiezscottie Member Posts: 23
    I have an '05 Passat 1.8T wagon. Absoulutely love it (I beat a Mustang on a windy mtn. road recently..heh heh). Currently have 36K miles...warranty is 4 yrs./50K miles. Is an extd. warranty worth getting? Any suggestions of where to look for one...either through VW, AAA, a reputable place? I currently service my car to a non-VW dealership (bought my car from the local place...have gone twice, give an unfavorable review to VW on them, never heard an "we'll make things better, please come back" from the dealership."). Thanks a bunch. :)
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    Here's some questions:

    How long do you plan on keeping this car?

    Sounds like you are about 18K miles a year, right?

    I don't know if it has changed, but VW doesn't have their own extended warranty program like, say, Honda. They market 3rd party policies.

    In any case, it won't be cheap.
  • zscottiezscottie Member Posts: 23
    I plan to keep it 8 more years, or until the repair bills come the price of car payments. And, I drive about 15-17K miles/year.
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    Sounds like it might be worthwhile for you...I think Edmunds has a thread on extended warranties that might help you. I priced one when I bought the car - it was expensive (two grand sticks in my mind, but I could be wrong about that - I recall it was a lot more expensive than the one my wife bought on her '97 Accord) and they wouldn't/couldn't budge on the price so I walked away.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Here's a link to the discussion altair4 mentioned: Extended Warranties. Keep us posted!
  • melinitemplinmelinitemplin Member Posts: 8
    i have error codes in the computer box and was wondering if anyone could help me....one is a o with a line through it on the left hand side and the other a box with a 2 on it. this is where the mpg, gear and the outside tempratue is. does anyone know what theses are....
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    I'm going to assume you don't have an owner's manual, for whatever reason, because all of this is discussed in there.

    Those aren't error codes. Ø is the symbol that tells you this is the average MPG (versus the "instant-as-in-the-last-30-feet" MPG). You can rotate through the various readouts using the toggle switch located on the end of the right hand or wiper stalk. You will have a choose of Average MPG, Instant MPG, Miles to Empty, and Miles Driven.

    There are two trip computers. "1" shows you the results since the computer was reset or since the car was last shut off for more than two hours.

    "2" is an accummulative trip computer. It doesn't reset after the car has been off for more than two hours. But it will reset when driven a long distance or time (something on the order to 100 hours or 1,000 miles or whatever). I don't have my owner's manual in front of me to give you the exact details.

    You can switch back and forth between trip computer 1 and trip computer 2 by pressing the rectangular button on the bottom edge of the right hand stalk. That button will also act as a "reset" if you hold it for a few seconds.

    I personally reset #2 every fill-up, so I can monitor my car's economy.
  • melinitemplinmelinitemplin Member Posts: 8
    THANKS FOR THE INFO.! IT WORKED. .. BUT ONE MORE QUESTION, SHOULD MY CAR BE IDILING HARD... IT IS JUST A TAD BELOW THE 1 RPM BUT I NOTICED THAT IT IDLED ROUGH.....IT IS A TURBO....BUT THE RPMS ARE NOT GOING ANY LOWER THAN WHAT THEY ARE NOW
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    I've got the 1.8T, too.

    Cold idle varies by outside temperature. At certain temps, it's barely above hot idle, perhaps 850 rpm (interestingly, I mean really cold outside temps - like in the teens). At warmer temps, it will cold idle above 1,000 rpm briefly.

    Are you talking about a hot idle or cold idle? Hot idle should be somewhere around 750 rpm, give or take.
  • melinitemplinmelinitemplin Member Posts: 8
    NO OUR WEATHER IS IN THE 70'S RIGHT NOW...IM TALKING ABOUT THE HOT IDLE....I USUALLY DRIVE THE CAR EARLY IN THE AM WHERE ITS ABOUT 52 OUT SIDE (GIVE OR TAKE) BUT WHEN I AM AT A STOP IT JUST IDLES HARD. I HAD A MECHANIC LOOK AT IT AND HE SAID ITS FINE...I DIDNT KNOW IF THAT WAS NORMAL SINCE THE TURBO OR WHATNOT
  • melinitemplinmelinitemplin Member Posts: 8
    ALSO, THE CAR DOESNT TAKE OFF REALLY QUICK HONESLTY. MAYBE I AM USE TO A 5 SPEED OR SOMETHING. WHAT CAN YOU SUGGEST. I JUST HAD THE FILTERS REPLACED. COULD THIS BE THE TRANNY? OR THE TURBO OR WHAT...HELP
  • a2mxa2mx Member Posts: 3
    I'm considering buying a 2004 Passag GLS wagon, manual, leather trim, 1 owner. Seems to be in very good shape cosmetically, has 83K miles on it (perhaps high for a 3-year old car). Hasn't had any major work done on it, title seems to be clean.

    What sorts of mechanical issues should I be watching out for? Is $13K a good price?

    Thanks in advance!
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    The primary concern would be proper lubrication, both quality and timeliness. Look for full documentation supporting oil changes on at least a 5,000 mile cycle using VW spec 502.00 synthetic oil. Sludge (actually coked oil) is the concern - obstructions in the oil pickup can kill this engine).

    At that mileage, find out if the timing belt and associated hardware have been changed out - if not, budget $750 to $1,000 for all the parts and work. Check the condition of the CV joints. Listen for unusual noise from the top, back end of the engine - hot idle clatter there is indicative of issues with the cam chain tensioner - also sludge related.

    No idea on the price. Check Edmunds for your area, the car's condition and mileage for a guide.
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    Post the actual idle speed.
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