Volkswagen Passat 2005 and earlier

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  • bjbird2bjbird2 Member Posts: 647
    dudleyr, sorry my post was not directed to you, but was directed to this post.

    #4281 of 4300 VW Passat GLX Maintenance by jpnwdc
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    What are your *choice of options* that make this
    so hard to find?
  • crisscrosscrisscross Member Posts: 20
    Before you opt for the K&N Air Filter, check out this website:


    http://www.tuninglinx.com/html/afilter.html

  • bjbird2bjbird2 Member Posts: 647
    crisscross,
    Thanks for the input. You saved me some time and money.
  • trlykatrlyka Member Posts: 82
    I have a '99 GLS V6 and I replaced the air and cabin filter myself. It was actually quite easy and one of the more accessible parts to replace. I'm not sure what the 4cyl looks like, but on mine, all you have to do for the air filter is:

    Remove the cover that sits over the box that holds the filter. It should pop right off. You will want to unhook the intake and out hose (whatever they are called, but you'll see it) so you can lift the cover up to get the old filter out. Just unscrew the metal hose clamps to loosen the hose that goes to the engine to slide it off, then the other hose should pull apart. Undo the metal clips holding the filter cover on. After you get the metal clamps loose, you will just lift the cover off and pull out the old filter and put in the new.

    Like I said, this is what I did for my V6, so your motor may be a lot different.

    Good Luck :)
  • mliongmliong Member Posts: 231
  • clscflmclscflm Member Posts: 71
    vwguild, Apparently an '03 GLS, manual tranny, beige leather in Colorado red pearl with a Monsoon is just not to be had in SoCal at the moment. So, I'm waiting... ClscFlm
  • johnxyzjohnxyz Member Posts: 94
    The right and left turn signals suddenly stopped working on my 2000 Passat which was bought new. The hazard lights work and the #2 fuse looks fine. Appreciate any advise on source of problem and fix before bringing it into the dealer. Thanks alot.

    John
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Could be a turn signal relay.
  • birdboy1birdboy1 Member Posts: 39
    Hey Johnxyz,
    had a similar problem on my 2002 passat. They replaced the flashing unit which also worked the 4 way flashers as well. It is all one piece but works turn signals and flashers separately.
    Since I am already writing , just a few words share with most of you what you know already.
    Love the 1.8 TIP!!! She purrs at 80 and wants to play, but safety first!!Drive the NYS thruway weekly and average 31-32 mph, . I love the option to downshift manually. It brings back all the excitement I used to have years ago ,
    without the pain of the clutch.
    My 2002 just had a first birthday and is doing great at 14,000 miles. So far just the usual MIL lamp occurences.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Member Posts: 1,681
    I read somewhere...some place that the 1.8T will be replaced with a 2.0T.

    This was a while ago and haven't heard anything else...

    Has anyone heard this?
  • pkraddpkradd Member Posts: 358
    My 2001.5 1.8 Tip also gives me much pleasure. As far as going to 2.0, well not for 2003 at least. You can, of course, do it yourself by "chipping".
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    The 2.0T will be the replacement of the 1.8T when the Passat is redesigned for 2005. There will also be a 3.2 VR6 and a TDI engine. The Passat will be larger is most dimensions (3 inches wider, 1 inch longer). Here's a pic:

    http://pics.tdiclub.com/members/35ikombi/passat6.jpeg


    Standard transmission will be a 6 speed maunal (on all models). The 2.0T will offer a 6 speed Tip, while the 3.2 and TDI engines will offer a 6 speed sequential manual/SMG-style transmission with paddle shifters and an auto mode.


    Rumor has it that the TDI will have ~130hp and ~250 ft/lb torque.


    This info is presented at vwvortex.com.


    -Craig

  • porknbeansporknbeans Member Posts: 465
    Wow! Thanks for the link and the info. That is definitely a nice looking car and the additional room (IMO) will be greatly appreciated.
    Porknbeans

    Grand High Poobah
    The Fraternal Order of Procrastinators
  • pkraddpkradd Member Posts: 358
    Unfortunately, it is also going to be much more expensive.
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    No more 22k Passats.

    I'm guessing they'll start around $25k/$26k, and go upwards from there.

    -Craig
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I guess the Jetta/Golf are going to move further upmarket as well. I think VW is thinking about bringing over the Polo as well, and that would be in the current price bracket of many economy cars, from what I have heard ($12,15K). That would be cool, a VW targeted towards younger people without rich parents. :)
  • pkraddpkradd Member Posts: 358
    But, they're generally not German-built. VW just can't make enough Passats to keep the price down, I guess. Why they don't take the Toyota/Nissan/Honda route and consider building the Passat in the US is probably an arrogance issue. It took VW of America years to convince them to make decent cup holders. (Arrogance is not just a VW problem, of course. It took years for GM to finally put right hand drive in the cars they sold in Japan.)
  • arnabparnabp Member Posts: 1
    I have a 'check engine' problem on my '99 V6 Passat, that has been identified from the computer by Autozone as a Secondary Air Intake issue. Does anyone have any feedback on this?

    I just got the 40K mile servicing with the local dealers and they were going to charge me $50 just to check the computer for the 'check engine' warning. I don't trust them. My experience with VW dealerships has been really bad.
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    I'm guessing that it will take awhile longer to forget the abortion that the Westmoreland plant was for Volkswagen.

    I owned a US built Golf and, frankly, it was put together pretty well. Body panels fit well, paint was perfect. Two collisions finally forced its retirement (shoulda dumped it after the first hit).

    But other people remember the US plant for poor quality (especially the early years).

    The first mistake VW made was building the car up North. They needed to go farther South, like BMW, Toyota, Mercedes, and others did. I'm sure there were other issues that spelled doom for their US venture, but I'm willing to bet that was #1.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Isn't Pensylvania South of Germany!

    How does latitude effect car manufacturing?

    ? : ^ ) ?
  • pkraddpkradd Member Posts: 358
    It has more to do with "attitude" :)
  • glideslopesglideslopes Member Posts: 431
    There may be attitude issues but latitude means H2O. When regions start limiting manufactures use of water in those "Nice People" regions those up here with be sitting back making the deals. Pretend all you want about the "Old Glory of the South." Reality is you are running out of water, you are running out of land, you have millions of new people moving in who all want services from their government . In 10 yrs those in the "Lousy Attitude Latitude" (sorry couldn't resist) will be happy to help you with your problems without any preconceived prejudice.

    Nothing personal, just business.
    Mark. ; )
  • bjbird2bjbird2 Member Posts: 647
    My 2002 1.8T is really a kick to drive! I also have an Infiniti which is rear wheel drive, but I have to say the front wheel drive Passat is very much fun to drive, although not as good in the twisties.
    It's too bad the 2005 Passat has adopted the "insect eye" headlights of the newer Japanese cars. That's one of the design details I don't like.
  • mliongmliong Member Posts: 231
    Bad Quality?
    Unionized workers?
    Poor engineering?
    Bad Water?
    Bad Karma?

    All I remember is that VW was almost run out of the country before their current resurgence.
  • smarslandsmarsland Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2000 1.8T Passat. I love it, but I would like to upgrade. I have not driven a 325xi, but have driven an A4 and liked the way it drove slightly better than the Passat, but I went with the Passat for value.

    Is the GLX 4motion going to give me what I want, a blend of performance and value, or should I be looking at something else??

    Also, what are you people paying for thr GLX 4motion?

    Thanks,
    Scott
  • reidkreidk Member Posts: 46
    --->> Secondary Air Intake Problem by arnabp Sep 19, 2002 (02:00 pm)
    I have a 'check engine' problem on my '99 V6 Passat, that has been identified from the computer by Autozone as a Secondary Air Intake issue. Does anyone have any feedback on this?

    Just had Recall completed: Replace Secondary Air Vacuum Line. Doesn't sound like that should be same issue as "Air INTAKE," but...

    BTW, recall work was performed along with 40K service: essentially oil, filters(3) & plugs, to tune of $356 - down from orig $450 quote (didn't need brake fluid change, done last year, & turned down tire rotation - did that on own as have new - 16" - wheels & tires). At least car DOES run well, and apparently nothing got broken while in dealers charge (actually have had good results from this dealer, although they are a bit a drive from home).

    Good luck!
  • pkraddpkradd Member Posts: 358
    Another view of the 2005 Passat which goes on sale in 2004.


    http://www.news24.com/Images/Photos/20020709095346Passat-400C.jpg

  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    It would make an interesting business school study. At the same time the Japanese were throwing up plants in the US and Canada, VW walks away.

    Union problems? Wrong product at the wrong time? Stall product? Quality control? Pricing? Poor advertising? I dunno. I can tell you this...when I had my 87 Golf, the service that I got at 2 out of 3 dealers pretty much sucked. Apathy ran amok.

    PS: The old Westmoreland location is now a Sony TV manufacturing plant. They seem to love it here.

    PPS: Yep, I'm only about 30 miles away from the plant.
  • caw103caw103 Member Posts: 63
    yeah those manufacturers that chose Tennessee and other southern states did so for the tax incentives those states were giving out. Not about latitude or attitude but plain old money, money, money.
  • kabadsvkabadsv Member Posts: 11
    I recently purchased a 2003 GL Passat. It has only 600 miles on it. I have a question regarding the brakes. When I release the brake pedal from a stand still position, I hear a thumping sound near the brakes. What could the issue be? Is this because the car is new and the brakes haven't broken in yet? Has anyone had a similar experience? I am thinking on waiting for a few months before having the dealer check it. Thanks in advance
  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 1,469
    Well, money is always a good reason. I suspect that the Southern attitude towards unions had a something to do with it, as well.


    The VW plant had similar enticements. Roads and railroad spurs were provided along with other tax incentives. The plant was originally built (or started, at any rate) by Chrysler. They never occupied the plant. VW got it, took 2 years to get it up and running, and then started spitting out Rabbits.


    Here's a neat little review of a book called "Getting the Bugs Out." The review gives a lot of interesting detail. I gotta track this book down...


    http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2001/12/10/excerpts.htm

  • mliongmliong Member Posts: 231
    Yes, I heard that the southern states are using a lot of incentives to lure in foreign automakers to their states.

    Additionally, I beleive labor costs in the south are cheaper than the North East or West Coast - with the added adantage of making it harder to unionize a plant.

    I've heard a lot of good and bad points about unions - so I'll go ahead and stir the hornets nest.... :)

    I think Unions are inefficient. Their contracts make it close to impossible to change with the times. E.g. They do not do anything outside their "job description" - and the rules of needing a "Supervisor" for a job that requires more than three people is kind of overkill.

    Unions get paid than most people (at $20+ per hour PLUS overtime - "member fees"), enjoy better benefits and time off - pay that exceeds most college graduate salaries.

    However, people don't unionize unless there is a need to do so - and you can bet that Ford/GM/Chrysler have probably made their plant workers lives miserable in the past - galvanizing people to join the Union ranks. So they certainly deserve it.

    The Transplants (foreign car manufacturers making cars in the US) go to great lengths to avoid unionization - since it will certainly kill their ability to change with the market quickly.

    The recent talks between GM and the Canadian Auto Workers is simple proof how powerful unions have become. Had GM not struck a deal with CAW, all of their North American plants would have been idled due to their interdependencies.

    Anyway, I think the tougher laws on unionization would probably be a big factor for Transplants. Because once one plant unionizes, the rest will certainly follow.

    That's my two cents - and it is not meant to be a slam on Unions.
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    If no one has noticed yet, the Passat W8 won Edmunds' most recent comparo. They complained about poor fuel economy though. I know someone on this board has a W8 (Ray?). How is your fuel economy?
  • feilofeilo Member Posts: 128
    Veedub currently has a V6 TDI option for European Passats that puts out 150 BHP @ 4000 RPM and a MASSIVE 228 lbs.ft @ 1500 revs! When I lived in the UK, I had a Fiat Tipo 2.0L Turbo Diesel which pulled like a mule and I am confirmed "oil burner". Its the torque that matters!!!

    I do wish I could get a V6 Passat TDI today but sadly our diesel specs don't quite agree with the TDI's overall. At least that's my rationale for VW not bringing the V6 TDI here - that and the bad press that diesel cars have generall. I do believe that the Golf/Jetta/Beetle 90 HP 2.0L TDI is detuned for the current local fuel - it gets only 90BHP whilst the European 1.9TDI gets 100 bhp and 177 lbs.ft. I suspect VW will only bring the V6 TDI over sometime in 2005/2006 when the low-sulfur diesel fuel regs kicks-in and we can get some decent=spec's diesel to run those sweet TDI engines!

    BTW, I just ordered a '03 1.8T 5-sp Passat GLS Wagon with ESP to tide me over until 05/06!
  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    My W8’s gas mileage has not been stellar. The spreadsheet I have been keeping since purchase shows a best of about 22 mpg. I have just over 7,000 miles on my car.

    My typical commute (in and around metro Atlanta) has consistently been between 18 and 20 mpg. Please keep in mind that (since break-in) I drive more for smiles per gallon than miles . . .

    I had the opportunity 3 or 4 weekends back to do some driving on level highways (I10 from JAX to I75) and experiment with cruising conditions. A couple of interesting findings: cruising at even an indicated 75 rather than my typical 80 (when the speed limit is 70) improves mileage more than I would have expected. And turning off the A/C had a 2+ mpg impact. More than I would have expected. The instant mpg display is typically subject to large swings with even minor up or down grades – but on this stretch I could allow it to stabilize.

    This all leads me to believe that the 25 mpg EPA highway rating would be achievable – if I drove at (or below) the posted speed limit – and the weather was cool enough to reduce or eliminate the need for the A/C.

    YMMV!

    Cheers,
    - Ray
    Who has NO intention of driving at or below the posted speed limits under normal conditions . . .
    2022 X3 M40i
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    They said something about the radio display being in the gauge cluster. I never saw that feature before, is that something exclusive to the W8?
  • vwguildvwguild Member Posts: 1,620
    Yes...
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Thanks.
  • kinnmankinnman Member Posts: 52
    I'm looking for feedback on a 1999 or 2000 Passat GLS 1.8t (5spd) with higher miles (50k - 100k). My lease will be expiring soon and I'm not sure if I should purchase or lease a new one. Also will need to replace the tires. I have 42K on my 2000 and it's been problem free. This has been an awesome vehicle!!! Have kept maintenance up to date per the book. It has the 10yr/100K mile drive train, but alot more things can go wrong. I welcome any feedback....thanks!
  • hoodornamenthoodornament Member Posts: 114
    Hey all,

    Wondering what you all have paid for your scheduled 20k service at the dealer. At vortex, I have read a couple of posts where people are saying the dealer is charging like $250 for this, which I have a hard time believing. A car at 20k should still be considered fairly new, what costs this much money?

    Thanks in advance,
    HO
  • marsha7marsha7 Member Posts: 3,703
    what is your overall impression of the W8...I think Car & Driver or Motor Trend called the auto transmission sluggish, and it placed last in a 6 car comparo...do your findings as an owner agree with the magazine???...does the 8 cyl have the acceleration that one should expect???...basically, is the engine all it's cracked up to be, or does it fall short like a weak V6???
  • kc125kc125 Member Posts: 3
    Does anyone know if the v6 Passats have stability control? The salesman was vague and seemed to skirt the question.
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    ESP is available for all 2003's. A VW dealership I visited says that most of what they're getting in have ESP. At $280 it's a great add.
  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    . . . is the engine all it's cracked up to be . . .

    Well now, that is a difficult question to answer briefly, but I'll try.

    Yes.

    How’s that?

    But seriously, the W8 motor absolutely transforms the Passat. I have driven both the T1.8 and V6 versions, and had a 1.8T for almost a week while awaiting final transport of my W8 from the port. I have long considered the Passat to be a classy and refined and comfortable vehicle. The W8 provides it with a significant increase in acceleration and flexibility. It is now a very enjoyable fast touring car – with real Sport Sedan potential.

    (I have previously posted overall impressions of my W8.)

    I say potential here for 2 reasons. I have 2 upgrades planned for my W8 that I believe will bring it (closer) to true Sport Sedan level – at least by my definition. One – I intend to either replace the oem Continental tires with something substantially more biased toward performance. Michelin Pilot A/S comes to mind. I will probably also have new dampers (shock absorbers) installed – either those coming as part of the upcoming Sport Package or an aftermarket brand such as Bilstein.

    Oh – and I will probably buy a Tip. chip to address the slight sluggishness C+D and others have criticized. I don’t personally think it is that serious, but it could be improved.

    There are some potential issues regarding the W8. It may turn out to be a short term motor – going away (at least in the Passat) in the next model change. This may not bode well for long term resale value. OTOH, there are also rumors of an R40 (Twin Turbo version of the W8 in a Passat) that might be of interest to me in a year to 18 months when I typically trade my cars. We’ll see.

    I certainly am not disappointed in my W8 from the standpoint of the motor. It is a jewel, responsive, smooth – and with a very interesting exhaust note hiding deep within the muffler system. (Another modification I am looking at – more to enjoy the audible symphony than expecting significant performance gain.)

    Cheers,
    - Ray

    Who greatly enjoys driving the car . . .
    2022 X3 M40i
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I have Michelin Pilot Sports on my 2002 Jetta 1.8T (OEM), and they are a great tire. The only thing is, they are pretty expensive to replace, which I found out at about 15K when I rubbed a curb and split my tire wide open. :(

    I have driven both 1.8T and V6 Passats as well. The V6 didn't feel as responsive as I thought it would, and the 1.8T (the "old" 150hp version) felt like a total dog compared to my 180hp 1.8T in the (lighter) Jetta.
  • outrunoutrun Member Posts: 539
    Did those Mexicans put some jumping beans in there to give it more power? :)

    The 1.8T in my Passat (170/180 hp version) pulls very well. Cruising at 80-100mph is no issue at all.

    -Craig
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    That was a bit politically incorrect, but anyway...

    I have never driven the newer (2001.5+) Passat, only a 1999 1.8T. I can't speak for the new one. The 1999 Tiptronic model I drove felt like a dog though.
  • pkraddpkradd Member Posts: 358
    That's an anti-dog remark. Take it back! :-)
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    That was funny! :)
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