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Nissan Maxima

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  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,703
    While a 300 HP V8 (or V6, for that matter) sounds enticing, you cannot imagine the posts-to-come if your dealer was correct, and not blowing smoke...if the Max has it, then the I35 would have it, too, yada, yada, yada...one of the worst posters asking so many questions is ME :):):)
  • ineto6ineto6 Posts: 161
    I think your sales manager got the Maxima confused with the Q45 :) A V-8 in a Nissan truck is more likely though.
  • speedracer3speedracer3 Posts: 650
    This was posted by a person who works at a Nissan dealer about the preliminary specs for the 2002 Maxima. Sounds promising:

    --2002 Maxima New Features/Content

    (01 C&C package contents, with the exception of sunroof, are standard on all GXE and SE models for 02)

    -STANDARD Features on ALL Models

    -MECHANICAL-
    -New 260HP 3.5L V6
    -Gated A/T Shifter W/Titanium Finish Surround
    -Brake Assist
    -Electronic Brake Force Distribution
    -Engine Cover

    -STYLING-
    -Side Sill Spoilers
    -4-Bulb xenon HID Headlights
    -Redesigned Front Grille and Front & Rear Facias
    -New Seat Styling
    -Redesigned Audio Faceplate
    -Titanium Finish Inside Door Handles

    -COMFORT-
    -8-Way Power Drivers Seat
    -Solar Glass
    -Leather Wrapped Shift Lever/Knob

    -CONVENIENCE-
    -In-Meter LCD Trip Computer
    -Outside Temp
    -Variable Wipers
    -Driver & Passenger Seatback Pockets
    -Microfilter
    -RDS
    -Homelink
    -Auto-Dimming Mirror
    -Cargo Net
    -Audio Steering Wheel Controls
    -Speed Sensitive Auto Volume Control

    -MODEL SPECIFIC-

    -GXE-
    -Auto Tranny Standard
    -16" Alloy Wheels
    -Premium AM/FM/CD Audio W/6 Speakers

    -SE-
    -6 Spoke 17" Wheels W/p225/55R17's
    -New Suede Like Seat Cloth
    -6 Speed Manual Tranny

    -GLE-
    -Drivers Seat Memory System
    -Drivers Sear Entry/Exit System
    -7 Spoke 17" Wheels W/p225/55R17's
    -RDS
    -Upgrades Bose Audio With 6 CD Changer
    -Speed Sensitive Auto Volume Control

    -SE/GLE OPTIONS-
    -CD Based Nav Unit (Requires BOSE, Leather & Sunroof)
    -Heated Steering Wheel (Part of Meridian Ed.)
    -Side Airbags Offered As Stand Alone option
    -Drivers Seat Memory System
    -Helical Limited Slip W/Drilled Pedals (SE M/T ONLY)

    -COLOR & TRIM-
    -Tungsten Blue REPLACES Satin Blue Pearl
    -Glacier Pearl REPLACES Icelandic Pearl
    -Majestic Blue is a NOW STANDARD COLOR
    -Sherwood Green DROPPED
  • sgrd0qsgrd0q Posts: 398
    Speed Sensitive Auto Volume Control seems to be listed as standard on ALL as well as standard on GLE only. I wonder which one it is.

    Sherwood Green DROPPED - what a pity - I think this was my favorite color. I wonder why people rarely get it. I didn't get it either.
  • gnlgnl Posts: 94
    but what is RDS? Some type of traction control? Rear differential...something?

    What's interesting is that the new GLE looks like it will be almost identical to the current I30, just like the new Altima will be very close in features and size to the current Maxima. So what is Infiniti going to pull out of its bag of tricks to make the new I30 stand out?

    They're right to drop Sherwood Green. Like you said, a very poor seller. I thought it was attractive enough when I saw one on the lot, but it was a little too yellowish-green for me, I like the greens that go towards blue a little better, or else a true emerald green. (Anyone wants to give me true emeralds, I'll take that too! ;) )
  • tuhlertuhler Posts: 6
    A dealer told me that Nissan is offering $1000 cash back on the Maxima, but another dealer said they aren't offering cash back. Does anyone know if they are going to?
  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    Radio Data System or something like that that provides radio station call-letters and other text information through the radio's display.
  • altavistaaltavista Posts: 19
    On May 24th, I did see Nissan's commercial with a Maxima and the $1000.00 cash back offer, good until May 31st. It may have aired earlier this month, too, but I don't watch very much TV.

    Anyway, if you find dealers not willing to honor this, call 1-800-NISSAN1 and speak with a Nissan North America customer service rep. They should be able to tell you if it is a regional, elective or nation-wide rebate program (by the commercial, it seemed nation-wide). There is always the chance that a dealer is trying to rip you off - they are still very good at that!

    Bottom line, if you can buy a Maxima for around invoice minus $1000, you're doing very well! Then there is 3.9% financing for up to 60 months.
  • gnlgnl Posts: 94
    there are ads in the Washington D.C. area papers saying $1000 cash back, but it doesn't say off what - it doesn't specifically say $1000 less than invoice, that's for sure.
  • s852s852 Posts: 1,051
    Of course it does not say $1000 off invoice. You have to negotiate the price, then you get the $1000 rebate on whatever price you managed to negotiate. That could be invoice price or it could be MSRP or even higher if that is what you negotiated.
  • tuhlertuhler Posts: 6
    I just called 1-800Nissan1 and they told me that I have to ask my dealer. Nissan doesn't own the dealerships so they told me to call my dealer. So I'll call my salesman again and ask him. I have a question for anyone who can answer it. My dealer has to check regionally to find the vehicle I want, if he charges a fee for this, should I pay it? If not, why not? I'd like to know so that I can accept or negotiate the fee. Thanks.
  • altavistaaltavista Posts: 19
    That's quite a nice answer from Nissan.

    The Washington, D.C. region definitely does have a $1000 rebate until 5/31 (at least). Depending upon where you live, it may be worth a trip - or at least can be used to negotiate.

    You should not pay a fee for locating a vehicle - please read through the Edmunds boards to see more background info on swaps. Basically, they don't incur many expenses for a swap - with an "order" they actually make more money - some people pay less when they wait...

    Anyway, I'll use my Maxima purchase as an example (purchased Maxima SE in April). VOB Nissan in Rockville, MD was willing to sell me any Maxima for $750 under invoice (actually only $350 under because they added back $400 for advertising). They easily had three dozen Maximas in stock including Anniversary Edition versions. There was no rebate at the time - I had just missed a $500 factory to dealer incentive.

    Since there were no incentives then and there are now, I'm assuming - and maybe too much - that you could reduce it another $1000 since it is Nissan authorized (paid for).

    Basically, very few people have paid too much over invoice in the recent past (assuming they tried to negotiate) - judging by this board and others. Now your price should be comfortably under invoice.

    Two more notes;

    One way to reduce the price further, which I did, is to make sure to request a color or color combination that they do not have in stock! I was very insistent on gray with black leather, but I had already driven the lot and saw the car I really wanted (and bought), black on black.

    I kept saying I wouldn't take the black one, I had them try to locate one, then I asked about ordering one. They were so pissed, they went to $900 under invoice (or $500 under invoice plus advertising). I could have pushed for more, but I liked the salesman and VOB treated me very well - and has since the purchase as well. Give it a try.

    The second note is that you should not worry too much about a deal now, they only get better with time. Especially if the Max is getting more powerful and/or luxorious.

    Good luck and be tough.

    Final note: I started with Autoweb.com - they sent my name and car choice to VOB, and VOB called me and then faxed me a copy of the invoice with my "special" pricing. It was a very smooth procedure and VOB never tried anything funny, no documentation fees, pinstriping, ADM, extra options - and gave me 3.9% without a hassle. It was surprising.
  • tuhlertuhler Posts: 6
    Thank you very much for your advice. I really appreciate it. I'll push for a good deal. I'll let you know what deal I got, when I get it. Thanks again for your advice. One question, how do I reply to a salesman when he tells me that they make zero profit on a car at or below invoice. I already have read about hold back and special programs that the manufacturer offers. One dealer told me that all the hold back gets used up right away so that is not profit. What you would say to a salesman? Thanks again.
  • chilly1chilly1 Posts: 9
    Hello all,

    I have been following the conversations here recently and have found alot of good information.

    My wife and I test drove the 20th anniversary edition Maxima today and are very impressed. We are thinking of maybe going back to the dealer and seeing if we can't strike a deal this car.

    The car we drove was a 5 speed manual and I noticed that when accelerating the sifter seemed to "float" (for lack of better word). It felt like it would move back slightly or move forward slightly depending upon if you were speeding up or slowing down.

    My wife also said that she notice that while cruising an a nominal speed (around 45 mph) that the car would kind of skip every now and then. I did not notice this when I drove it, but I have to admit that I put the 227 horses to good use and did cruise while I was driving.

    Has anybody else notice any of these two things. They are just slight issues as far as I am concerned, however I want to make sure that this isn't a sign of bigger problems. The car we test drove had about 1K miles on it so I am wondering if this might not be a sign of some abuse.

    Any insights would be terrific, this would be our first Nissan and I just want to make sure I am not missing something here.
  • altavistaaltavista Posts: 19
    tuhler, you ask a question that can be answered simply or in detail - I'll try the simple then an outline for the detailed.

    Simple:
    Tell the salesman lack of profit is something he and/or his boss can reconcile.

    Detailed:
    Well when buying a car there are several underlying assumptions that should be obvious and consistent - if you think about it long enough - they include (we'll use the Max as an example);

    1) You want a Maxima and already realize it is a good deal just becuase it is already priced well and offers a fantastic combination of room, power, luxury, style, value, reliability, sportiness, panache, you can fill in the blanks...

    I personally, think that the car I bought, at full list price, $29,222, was priced well, and if market conditions were such, would have paid that (or close to it!) Luckily, I paid over $3,500 under sticker.

    2) You want to pay as little as possible.

    3) The salesman wants you to pay as much as possible.

    4) You lie.

    5) The salesman lies.

    These are the underlying variables/presumptions of this transaction/negotiation.

    These days, an "educated" consumer knows this. That is why we go in armed with as much knowledge about price and financing as possible.

    So, with all this in mind, I'd tell the salesman who asks about his profit (or lack of profit) that he does not have to sell me the car. Then I would follow it up with "before I am willing to pay more, I am going to shop around." There are so many incentives that manufacturers give dealers that we can't possibly know the true cost to a dealer for any one car. And I would expect that hidden or less traceable profits would occur due to the increase of the informed consumer. Frankly, if I worked for a manufacturer, that is exactly what I'd try to implement - overprice cars and let buyers think they getting great deals, then reward dealers based on volume or some other variable.

    Bottom line, I feel our responsibilites to the dealer/salespeople are limited to our word on agreements. And I feel we can and should be able to hold them at their word on agreements. For instance, if I say I will buy a black car if we can agree upon price, and we do agree upon a price, then I should buy it. Just as he should sell it to me at that price. But if I say I'm also considering BMW's, but really I'm not, my conscience is still clear. Just as when he tells me that Nissan probably won't make any more gray and black SE's, he lying, but I really don't care.

    Very bottom line, they don't have to and won't sell you a car unless there is some upside for them. We may never know what it is, but you should rest assured, you did not put the dealer out of business.

    All Maximas are a good deal.

    Chilly1 - You have a lot of catching up to do - please see the Edmunds board called Maxima 5-Speed Problems.

    I have a 5-speed, 2001 SE, it's fine now after a fix (computer reprogramming, about 30 minutes) from Nissan, but almost all 5-speeds start with this problem, that is the smooth acceleration problem, the shifter movement is normal for all 5-speed cars, at least the last five that I have owned and dozens that I have driven.

    I'd have the dealer perform the TSB so you can test drive it again before you work out the price - which should be one to two grand below invoice, considering the miles and current rebate. Good luck.
  • gnlgnl Posts: 94
    I was wrong in my earlier post when I said local dealers were not saying "$1000 less than invoice." After checking the weekend ads, they ARE saying just that - $1000 less than invoice plus 3.9% financing. Altimas are invoice minus $2500 OR 3.9% financing. Some dealers are getting cute and have a "coupon" for you to clip out and present. Others are saying $500 cash back and $500 under invoice. So it's all variations on a theme, but looks like it's a very good time to buy.
  • aloodumaloodum Posts: 1
    hello, this is my first time trying this and i hope i can get some helpful insight on some things!!! my husband & I went to look at a 97 maxima SE from a private party... the car itself is in EXCELLENT condition, and the owner has only gone to the dealer for repairs and not the local gas station.
    my question is that this 97 maxima SE did not have ABS (anti lock brakes)... isn't that supposed to be required for all cars?? i'm lost!! how much would it be (if we bought the car) to get it installed!! is it dangerous to have lock assisted and not ABS?
    number 2 question....aren't all SE's equipped with Bose stereos and a sunroof??? i'm only asking because i've seen it mostly on these maximas and this one didn't have it..
    anyone can help me??
    Thanks!
  • yaoxyaox Posts: 14
    I am living in Colorado. Yesterday I visited some dealerships. The manages insisted there is just $500 dealer cash and no $1000 customer rebate/match.
  • gnlgnl Posts: 94
    You can't add ABS brakes aftermarket. It's probably not dangerous per se not to have them, and in fact a lot of people don't use their ABS brakes properly and thus make the ABS useless. So... just depends on how you feel about it.

    The Bose stereo and sunroof are both options. Because they are very popular options, a lot of cars do have them, but they aren't standard. You can install an aftermarket sunroof, though. Go to a good place and you can get one with more features than factory standard. Will cost you maybe $800 - $1000.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Where are your pictures? Where are your introductions? :-)

    I was just checking out those discussions on the Owners Board and there's not much happening in them. I'm sure we'd all love to see pics of your cars and hear more about who you are.

    Check 'em out - you can get to them easily by following the link at the top of this page. If you haven't already, you might want to "subscribe" to the whole folder by using that option at the bottom of the Maxima Owners Club main discussion list.

    Pat
    Host
    Sedans and Women's Auto Center Message Boards
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,703
    but does anyone know if the car gets longer outside, larger interior, different EPA classification, or it is the same as this year?...I gues what I am wondering is, will the Max actually become 95% of what the I35 is, making the I35 an overpriced vehicle?...what will the I35 have that the Max does not?
  • danny25danny25 Posts: 119
    I was curious to know what VOB stands for, I can't figure it out.
  • gooniesgoonies Posts: 24
    hi all, i own a new 2001 gle. luv the car, great engine, build quality, etc, etc, etc. anyway my only complaint is that the steering and handling feels a bit loose or light. i heard about something called a "fstb" which is suppose to improve handling dramatically, especially on a maxima. can someone explain the difference in the feel of the steering wheel with this add on. will it make the steering wheel feel heavier, with better on center control(thats what im looking for). maybe its just the gle model and the se has tighter handling. also supposedly nissan offers this as an oem part which you could buy or have them installed. anyone know what something like this would cost and if it easy to install(dont trust the 2nd rate mechanics at my nissan). thanx everyone!
  • golfprdgygolfprdgy Posts: 5
    Hey guys! Just got a 2001 Maxima GLE this morning. Paid $24,800 plus tax, tags, and fees for it. Do you all think that was a pretty good deal?? My dad and I had to argue a bit to get them that low. I can't wait to add more posts about my car!
  • mhammy84mhammy84 Posts: 167
    stands for Front Strut Tower Brace...its simply a bar that is installed under the hood over the engine. It runs across the engine bay, connecting the strut towers with a few bolts. They run around 100 bucks (three diff brands that i know of). I dont have one, but I can probably say that it will not affect the "tightness" of your steering wheel. It actually adds stability to your car to prevent it from twisting around tight cornering. RSB's are also available...
  • gnlgnl Posts: 94
    Excellent deal! What options do you have? What color? Welcome to the group!
  • chilly1chilly1 Posts: 9
    Well,

    After having been a long time Toyota buyer, I just finally change over to Nissan.

    We just purchased 2001 SE 20th anniversary edition 5 speed manual with most of the options. Only option that we did not get was the 6 disc CD player. We purchased the Merlot with the black leather interior. I have to say that I am really impressed with this vehicle. I think we did alright. The invoice of this vehicle showed at 27,464 according to Carsdirect Edmunds showed slight different, but my credit union confirmed the Carsdirect invoice. We indeed up getting the vehicle at 27K even. I even almost got what I wanted on my trade in. I guess it pays to walk in about 45 minutes before they close after a big weekend sale. You could tell they didn't want to hassle for to long and go home so we got right to the point. Only took about 20 minutes to get the price I wanted.

    The next step is to get the ECM updated with the software fix for the throttle issue. I have to admit that I didn't find that is was that much of problem, but it did get slight jerky at parking lot speeds. We will see if the update fixes the problem.

    I am really thankful that this board exists because I think it really helped me in getting a good deal (not great) on this car. I think this was a win/win for the me and the dealer.

    Anyways I look forward to continued interaction with everyone.

    :)
  • one_loveone_love Posts: 28
    I own a 87 Nissan Maxima and I'm looking for a new vehicle. It's going to be a Nissan of course but I don't want to trade it it in, I want to keep it as a spare so I have 2 main questions for you guys.

    First off the dealership service department told me I need to replace the power steering belt because they say it's craking. Is it realling that important to replace? Second they also said the Alignment is wrong is that important too? I went to sears to get it fixed but they took my money and didn't do anything!

    Second main question. I test drove this beautiful used 2000 Maxima in Satin blue. But It had about 21000 miles on it, No leather, No Sun roof, No power seats and I'm sure it didn't have the bose stereo either pluse the inner part of the door is rusting and thier is a little crack in the right side of the windshield. The dealer wants me to pay $21,373 for it I thought that was outrageous so I told him $18,800 considering the possibility of the Tranny problem or who knows if it even got in an accident. I need your guys Input.

    Thanks
  • teknogeek9teknogeek9 Posts: 12
    You can check the power steering belt for signs of cracking and if it is, I would recommend replacing it. The last thing you need is to be driving without power steering unless you are a participant in the Worlds Strongest Man contest!
    As for the alignment, you can check for that too by examining the tires and looking for signs of abnormal wear. If Sears took your money and didn't do anything, obviously you got ripped off.
    And finally, I would be suspicious about a 1 year old car showing signs of rust. Imagine what it could be like in those spots that you can't see such as inside the doors. Coupling that with a suspect tranny, I wouldn't be surprised if the vehicle was owned by someone who beat the crap out of it and didn't care.
  • sidmansidman Posts: 10
    Hello all,

    I recently purchased a sweet Black Max SE '01 CC pack in a 5 speed with Blk leather. I totally love it. Now however, I would like to tweak it a bit to make it a little faster. Where could i start (ie intak, exhaust, etc.). If you have some recommendations please let me know.

    By the way, I got the car a 500 below invoice at 24k not including tax and tag
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