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Oldsmobile Intrigue



  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    teo:::::::You are probably right for I think he has 2 months left on lease.
    oscarz2::::::The Intrigue has a more sophisticated strut design that features low-and high-speed orifices, deflected disks, and internal springs that permit greater flexibility in tuning damping rates at different wheel speeds. Only the Intrigue's struts use synthetic fluid and provide internal rebound springs to soften the when the struts reach the top of their travel on roller coaster roads. Ride height and hence suspension travel varies with the RegalGS riding the highest and the Grand Prix the lowrider. Front Spring rate Buick GS-131,Intrigue-143..Rear spring rate Buick GS-106-206,Intrigue 114-234.

    Magnasteer is common to all "W" bodies; however the use of the splined intermediate shaft in the steering column is Intrigue only.

    The Intrigue & Buick GS are different animals.
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    Impala doesn't have Magnasteer (On either trim level). Neither Montecarlo or Buick Century. Not sure about Buick Regal. Pontiac Grand Prix offers standard Magnasteer only on GT and GTP trim levels.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    So you have been holding out on me. You do know a lot about why the intrigue rides the way it does over small bumps.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    My understanding is that the regal has rubber mounts on the independent rear suspension assembly.
    I have heard that the grand prix and intrigue's are mounted directly to the body. This may explain the road noise issue that we have all experienced.
    My cousin has a regal and it definitely rides softer and has less road noise than mine.
    The impala may also have its rear suspension mounted directly to the body.
    If anybody noise different please correct me. Perhaps teo knows something.
    If i owned my intrigue i would definitely go with a different premium strut. I think this would probably cure the impact harshness and still give good cornering capability.
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    Do not know about Intrigue, but the low fuel light/chime at 4 gallons left is consistent with other GM cars. Our cars, 98 Malibu and 2000 Regal, both chime at this mark.

    This is my first-hand experience.

    I read somewhere, that the cars need some fuel in the tank for cooling the fuel pump. Two gallons, as well as I remember. If this is true, the real slack is two gallons only. Not so much if you are stick in a good highway jam - a very usual matter in dense populated places like our Connecticut...
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    This reminds me our first auto insurance, just months after immigrating.

    We bought it from an agent. Next week we received a letter from the insurance company, that some data items are missed and the policy will be canceled if we do not provide them. The missed item was "The marital status of your spouse". :-)

    We were very unsure in our English then, as well as with understanding of the local customs. Digged in dictionaries, looking for some secondary sense of the wording. Then called a friend, who immigrated 20 years ago. He gave us an obvious explanation: the letter was generated by computer :-).
  • etharmonetharmon Posts: 399
    I'm with you on your cause, but I seriously doubt it will do any good. GM truly does have too many divisions and one(or maybe 2) will have to eventually go. At least the decision is not an overnight thing. They are giving us a few more years to buy and some great deals and incentives as well. I am sad to see Olds go. I just hope GM uses what they learned at Olds and applies it to Buick and Pontiac when the next generation W-bodies are introduced. I'm only 26 years old myself and have the potential to buy alot of new cars in my lifetime and thus far have been very pleased with Oldsmobiles and potentially could have bought many of them over the years. Renaming the division REO(or anything else) just wouldn't be the same. BTW, REO reminds me of one of my favorite bands. Hmmm, they aren't hardly recognized by younger people today as well, just like Oldsmobile. How ironic. Good idea though, but I just think that if they were renaming the division, GM could save themselves alot of expense and just give Olds' cars to other divisions.

    mrblinky, I'm not sure on your PCS and Trac-off light as I don't have PCS on mine. I do know that if you turn the traction control off(the button can be easily hit when getting in the car) the Trac-off light will stay on and restarting the car resets it as the default mode is on. I'm not sure if turning the traction control off defeats PCS as well or not. You might want to read the manual and see if it says anything. As for the low fuel light, I think it comes on way too early. And 98s also had an annoying chime that sounds every 10 minutes once the low fuel light is on. I think the chime has been eliminated on later models. BTW, a co-worker of mine recently purchased a 2000 GLS with PCS and his was also built 05/2000. He absolutely loves the car. It is Sandstone and has everything but the chrome wheels and gold trim package. Bose, cd changer, spolier, PCS, etc. it's all there.

    Teo, 99 was the last year of the "classic" Aurora. There was no 2000 Aurora as the 2001 model went on sale early in 2000.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    With TV ads of very scantily clad bikini girls walking a Brazilian beach and "Girl From Iponema" playing in the background - now there's an ad campaign that would unite the generations!

    Oh - the bikini babe could alude sexily to her 'Intrigue' and how she just adores men who don't drive Camrys!!

    Enjoy the evening guys!

  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    My statement about the "W" body was based on the intermediate shaft/magnasteer application of the Intrigue, Regal GS and the Pontiac GTP.

    For you Aurora fans the intermediate shaft is on the 2001..
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    The sentence in my post should have read,"if anybody knows diferent, please correct me.
    I've got road noise on my brain.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    etharmon : Just for fun it would be funny to put an ad in the paper for a 2000 Aurora. I wonder how many calls you would get?

    mrblinky : I think there always was good press for the new Oldsmobile line up, but there does seem to be more than ever now. While sales were very good this past month, a lot of it has to do will incentives. I really wish Oldsmobile could be saved, but I have pretty much given up. I will still help the cause of people like FATlittle though.

    Toronto Auto show starts tomorrow. Unfortunately I am out for town for a few days so I can't go this weekend. I am definitely in next week.
  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    The pesky little part on the high-tech Intrigue steering system is really a pain-the-butt..

    Question----Did installing a new shaft eliminate the front end racket????--or did it eliminate preceived steering slop????

    I had one put in the 99 GLS at 23k miles with no improvement in any catagory...

    Trivial data::::air cleaner element for 3.5 installed $12.37.------Same operation on the Caddy Northstar $8.84. The Caddy dealer is really missing the boat and it is a stand alone operation. My Olds guy is also a Caddy dealer and I imagine they would want $25.00 for the $8.84 job!!

    b4z::::::::My automotive saavy is awesome!!!!!Too bad I can't figure out how to cure the 99 front noise!!!

    I called SLP Engineering in Troy, Mich to see if the cat-back exhaust they produce for the Regal GS can be fitted to the 3.5 engine setup. If so, how much?, and how soon?? I need a change of pace; and if I pump some more money into the Intrigue I will stay away from another car.

    Buy American to reduce the national debt, shore up social security, improve our balance of trade, and make yourself PROUD!!!!! Everybody have a great day.....
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    There is a Oldsmobile product manager in the SUV forums answering questions RE: 2002 Bravada if anyone is interested.
  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    dindak::::::Write up in the Detroit News yesterday and it was favorable, not overboard,and said it was not as good or as user-friendly as the Acura MDX. They were impressed by the I-6 and said since the engine is 30hp greater than the Explorer V-8 undoubtly sales would be lost since GM is not offering a V-8..The test bunch sure is not well versed since GM will offer a V-8; but at less HP than the I-6..Their comments did not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about their honest ability to report the true picture.

    The GM Bravada brand mgr. certainly is a short-timer in respect to employment term. Probably has his resume up to date and probably looking at Nissan!!!!
  • one2oneone2one Posts: 626
    I know this came up before but it's so far back I doubt I'll find it. Does anyone know a large K & N dealer in the PA, NJ, DE area? My local Pep Boys carry a limited supply of K & N's.

    I did notice something that I thought was strange about their filters after looking in the in-store catalog. There is NO listing for Intrigues of any year. I found the number for the AC/Delco filter and cross referenced it with available K & N's. And wouldn't you know? There IS a part number for it (3800 engine)! The only problem is that, as I've said, my store doesn't carry it. Does AutoZone have a larger supply of K & N's? I've read some complain about the price being too high for 1 or 2 miles/gal or 2 or 3 extra horses. But at $40, reusable, and lasting 100k, it's more cost effective any way you look at it to get it than to continue using the paper filter.
  • 1415: The new steering shaft eliminated the racket for me. There was a great deal of knocking and bumping coming from the front left end. Now it's quiet and I no longer feel the knocking transmitted through the wheel and brake. I have a '99 GL by the way.
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    The Impala also has the dreaded intermediate steering shaft...mine had the same Intriguesque symptoms and was replaced last month...seems to be a hot potato item with 2000 model year Impala/Montecarlos...
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    You will probably lose a couple of horsepower on the low end with the K&N. But you will gain some on the top end.
  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    teo::::::too bad Impala has the same infection. Mine just turned over the 36k mark. I solved the potential problem for the next 39k miles by taking a 75k/0 ded warranty for $1025, GM's finest, so everything but brake rotors,pads and tires are not covered. I will either get coverage from TSBs or the Warranty..Cheaper than the sales tax on a new car and should have the buggy running great by the end of the 75K and get to 100k free.

    j coleman:::::::That item will be replaced again on the 99 and the struts next under the new warranty.. Believe me the next struts will get the axe again around 70k. Things are looking good!!!!
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    As long as GM trains it's staff well and advertises the I-6 properly, convincing people to buy a 6 instead of an 8 should not be hard. With gas prices still pretty high it should actually be pretty easy.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Gas mileage on the new GM suv's should be significantly better on the highway than the ford
    explorer. The only way an explorer could break 20 mpg. is to push it off a cliff.
  • I read somewhere the Envoy is estimated to get 21 mpg on the highway. Not too great.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Most of the people that i know that have V8 explorers get about 16-18 mpg on the highway.My intrigue gets more than its EPA rating, so if the bravada gets 22 mpg that is a 22% increase. Pretty good for a 4500 lb vehicle.
  • 14151415 Posts: 249
    The Bravada test that I referred to in my posting stated gas mileage was 15mpg which they obtained in a preproduction prototype with low mileage..

    Need info on the SLP cat-back exhaust system on whether the Regal GS cataloged system will fit the 3.5 engine w/o modifications.. The 3.8 and 3.5 exhaust aft of the converter carry a different part number but that really doesn't tell much.. Somebody on an old archived Intrigue board had one done on an Intrigue; the 3.8 Intrigue is the same as the 3.8 SC or 3.8 normal in the Regal.

    Any help would be nice!!!!
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I didn't know that Hertz used car sales sold Intrigue GL models. I explored their website, and they have like 30 or so spread throughout the country with 23-30K on them for $14-16K. Not too bad.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    I would never take a chance on a rental. I have seen some pretty bad things done to them.
  • etharmonetharmon Posts: 399
    Mine was replaced in June 99 at about 12K and the problems have not surfaced again. I'm now at 32K. I never had any strange noises with the old shaft, the steering just felt like there was something loose clunking around in it. It was most noticeable when you went around a curve and then corrected the wheel. One thing I've also noticed is that I never notice the ABS self test anymore. One of the things I noticed when I first got the car was right after starting it and putting it in gear, I would hear a noise and the brake pedal had a funny feeling for a second. I haven't noticed this in a long time and just remembered it today. I want to say it quit about the same time the intermediate shaft was replaced.

    one2one, I found the K&N that fits my 98 Intrigue at Advance Auto parts. I looked at Pep Boys and Auto Zone as well and nobody has a very big selection of K&N filters. Advance's selection was no bigger, they just had the size that fits mine. I too noticed the books didn't have the Intrigue listed, but they did have the Regal and Grand Prix listed and I cross referenced the AC/Delco filter for those two and it was the same as the Intrigue so I knew it would fit. And memory seemed to tell me that the cold box was in the same location on all three. Anyone know if a K&N is available for the 3.5 liter engine?
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    At the dealer where I purchased my 2000 Bonneville last month for $15,995 there is a steady supply of rental unit Intrigues - all priced at $11-12K. These are base models but most have power seat, CD, aluminum wheels but not leather or sunroof. Most have 25K or so miles.

    There are also Century Customs for 12.5K and Impala base models for $13.5K The Grand Prix SEs go for the least - no more than 11K. Aleros are priced at $10.5K

    I sure wish they would get the 99 Aurora in and price it around 16K - would be a sweet deal


  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Three of my friends who all have V8 explorers have told me they get around 14 mpg in the city.
    So i don't see how the bravada could be any worse.
    I think they will definitely be more fuel efficient than the explorer. The question is, how much more?

    You can bet any magazine test will report a lower mpg figure because they beat on their test vehicles pretty hard.

    My intrigue is rated at 19 city and 27 hwy. My normal is 21-22 city and 29hwy. I believe that the bravada has the capability of beating the 21 mpg hwy figure.

    Of course that is dependent on whether you have the 3.42, 3.73 or 4.10 rearend.
  • oscarz2oscarz2 Posts: 153 has cat-back for Intrigue among other things. Not sure of the brand. I'm thinking of getting a strut tower brace from them since it's only $19.99.
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