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As far as the $28k vs $22k price, don't forget the exchange rate. At today's exchange rate US$22k equals CDN$33,435.60 - so we're getting a fair deal here in Canada!
Brad
I continue to beleive that it is cheaper for a US citizen to buy a car compared to us,even if the best car manufactured in North America are from Oshawa...We should get a better price,just for this reason !
So I'm not totally crazy ...the car is noisier than my Lumina LS 99 ,not a lot more but enough to be noticed.It is hard to compare both car since I drove the impala for less than 50 miles,but my first impression are,Impala:better handling but stiffer suspension still dont know what I prefer ...,more room,much much better brakes,noisier e.g. wind noise tire noise,My lease is over in 1 year,and I still dont know if I will buy the Lumina or jump in the Impala.Financially the right move is to go with the Lumina,to make a short story I can get a really good price on the Lumina,that I can pay cash et voila no freaking payment for 5 years.
But you know what it is....the Carmine red Impala is a really nice car......;-)
I will rent one for a week-end just to make sure that it is what I want.
Good day everybody and thanks for your input
As far as extended warranties go, the GM Major Guard is the best and safest way to go. I am not convinced about the cost 'advantages' of aftermarket warranties...you deal directly with the General for quick, on the spot warranty repair claims.
We plan to keep our Impala for 6 years and this will give us at best another 3 years coverage after the basic warranty expires.
I was thinking of getting the full 72 month/100,000 mile coverage but after going over my annual mileage (Between 11K and 12K a year) the car will have travelled 75K miles by the time it is 6 years old. I don't typically keep cars for longer than this, so the 100K mile coverage might be kinda overkill, but we shall see.
Has anyone bought the GM Major Guard warranty? Any recommended places on the 'net for purchasing it?
I've read where you get less then preferred treatment w/ the GM warranty vs. another because w/ another aftermarket warranty you are like a cash customer to GM, vs. w/ the OEM Warranty you are just another warranty customer.
On the other hand I'd love the comfortable feeling of having a GM Warranty on a GM car.
Thoughts? Teo?
Brad
Travelling over grass where it is bumpy for sure, the whole front end of the car clunks. It feels like it is going to collapse.
There are no clicks when I maximum turn left or right.
I'll bet one of your vents is closed or partly closed. My wife closes her vents and puts on the heated seat even in 90 degree weather!!!!!!!!!!! When she does this the vents hiss.
Also, in most cases, you must take the car back for service to the dealership that originally issued the aftermarket warranty contract. This could be another headache if the dealer proves to have bad service...you are stuck with them.
Aftermarket warranties might be cheaper but the minute you need to file a claim they can prove to be more expensive and often useless. Again, I am not convinced about the effectiveness or advantages of going with these companies.
the GM Major Guard warranty is indeed more expensive but you can rest assure that when dealing with the manufacturer directly on warranty repair claims you can expect quick turn around times (Almost instant)to authorize parts and service repairs on your vehicle. Also, you can go to any GM dealer in the US or Canada to obtain service a big plus in my book should your car becomes disabled while in a road trip. Based on what my Service Manager has relayed on his daily experience of working with both aftermarket and GM extended warranties is that the aftermarket ones are often a pain in the butt to process a claim and to get them to cover for legitimate warranty related repairs. He states that with the GM Major Guard contracts the dealer doesn't face any hassles when filing warranty claims directly with GM as opposed as when dealing with the aftermarket warranty comp.
IMO the GM Major Guard is expensive but the best and safest way to go if you plan to keep your Impala way past the new car warranty.
Let me ask, I was reading up on it and the GM Major Guard Plan does'nt cover:
Maintenance services and parts, physical damage, glass, lenses, sealed beams, lightbulbs, and tires. Components not installed by the vehicle manufacturer. Bumpers, sheet metal, body panels and parts. Carpet, hinges, trim, upholstery, convertible or vinyl tops, moldings or bright metal. Air and water leaks, wind noise, odors, weather-strips, squeaks, rattles, paint, rust, carburetor, contaminated fuel system, exhaust system, catalytic converter, brake drums, shock absorbers, and batteries.
Is that excluding too much?
No extended warranty contract is perfect but at least big ticket items are covered for the time we are planning to own the car.
I have no doubt in my mind that properly taken care of, the Impala can make it all the way to 150K or 200K comfortably with minimal or no problems.
IMO keeping a car past 100K is taking a risk mainly because no warranty covers a car past that mileage.
Some people prefer to keep their cars for 10 years. To me 6 years is enough.
I visted the Chevy dealership today where I bought my LS to see if there was any brochures or any reading material on the 2002. I was told from my friend at the dealership that there will be brochures available within three weeks. Looking forward to it.
Best Regards To All......
dieselone.... I too have noticed that its hard to keep the Impala on a straight line without a lot of small corrections. Seems like you are going right or you are going left. There aint no middle ground. The last car I had that had this problem was a 1988 Pontiac Bonneville
Nick
dieselone, I have a '01 LS, and the LS has a different suspension. However, I find the car to be pleasantly soft yet quite confident on curves and absolutely brilliant on bumps. The roads in my area seemed to improve greatly in quality when I bought the car. 'Course the roads go back to their own crappy selves when I drive my other cars. Michigan is trying to improve their roads but they still are pretty poor.
Also, I didn't know ANY Impalas (or GM cars for that matter) came without ABS after the early 90's. GM put ABS on even their most inexpensive models after 1991 or so (or at least I thought I heard that). Are you sure you don't have ABS?
On other notes, I have noticed the shaking mirror on hot days. I think the cruise works fine -- I live in a hilly area and it stays within 3-4 mph downhill. I had the misfortune of driving a 99 Taurus (dieselone, that's an ugly car), and its cruise was almost unusable around here. My 98 Malibu handles hills in cruise slightly better than the Impala, probably because it's lighter.
The only complaint I have right now is a clunking/rattling noise coming from the front when I was on a bumpy brick road today. I haven't noticed any ride or handling problems. I saw an earlier post asking about this and wondered if anybody has had this. I'll be due for my first oil change soon, so I'd like the dealer to check it out. Thanks.
On smooth road, my '01 LS is pin-drop quiet at any speed and any wind condition. On rough roads, the noise transmits through the cabin quite noticeably but not really irritating. My other cars are a '93 Chrysler minivan and a '82 Ford F-150 Custom. In comparison, both other cars are rattle-traps. But the Impala is much newer so I expect a much tighter cabin.
I just took a 3000+ mile trip in the Impala and for the first time I talked with my family without getting a sore throat from shouting over the road noise. I did, however, get a sore throat because the A/C kept the car so dry. My wife and son got bloody noses too from the dryness. We had to open the windows occasionally to let some humidity in. I'm not complaining though. I've never had an A/C work so well.
I know, you folks in the SW US are probably chuckling, but we who are used to the slurpy sweaty humid weather of the midwest can't handle the dryness.
I brought my 2k (32K miles) in for an oil change yesterday and left a list of items I wanted the dealer to check out. The car was vibrating when braking - especially noticeable at higher speeds. The last time I brought it to the dealer, they told me it was caused by the tires - which were slightly cupping. You all told me to have them check for warped rotors. Warped rotors it was - and they replaced them yesterday - I didn't even have to fight them for new rotors instead of turning them - they just installed the new rotors without question. I also had a problem with the key fobs working intermittantly. I had wrote it off as a quirk, and had just been living with it, but when I brought it up to the dealer (and the TSB) they ordered me a new cluster panel and will be installing it today. They also lubricated my rear sticking door.
As for the hesitation problem, we're still going nowhere with that. They haven't been able to duplicate it yet - and the last few times it has happened, it has lasted longer and doesn't kick back in until I take my foot off the gas and put it back down. They suggested I switch to lower octane gas (a year or so ago, they suggested I switch to higher octane). Since it happens no matter what type of gas is in the car, I have been using the cheaper 87 lately anyway. I sent them back to the drawing board on that one. It doesn't matter what type of gas, what the weather is like, how long the car is warmed up for, etc. I haven't found any common factors to relate to the problem. Hopefully they will be able to duplicate the problem while they have it again today.
Thanks again!
The Eagle GAs have excellent traction on dry roads - quite good on wet roads except right after the start of a rain when the oil on any road turns it into a virtual slip-n-slide, regardless of tires.
The Eagles are not quiet - especially on concrete roads. They are quieter on asphalt roads. The trade off seems to be good traction vs low road noise.
Also, sadly there is NOT much sound insulation in these cars. It's one of the many differences between Chevys vs Buicks, Cadillacs or earlier generations of Oldsmobiles.
For starters, the Base Impala has Uniroyal Tigerpaws tires which provide a very soft ride but they do easily give in mildly hard cornering. Also the base 3400 sedan does not come with either ABS or electronic traction control standard (That's your answer Mediumfry) but it does have the standard 4 wheel disc brake setup. Also the suspension is much softer for that typical 'American' marshmellow ride and the steering ratio is much slower than the LS, hence the need to make more corrections on the vehicle when it is driven on a straight line.
The LS and 3800 V6 base sedans handle and perform on a much different fashion. The suspension is much tighter (Very similar to the setting found on your Jetta) and it is completely devoid from the marshmellow boucing effect found in the base sedan...actually you feel like you are driving a German car due to the harder ride characteristics. Yet the suspension damping settings on the LS also reward the occupants with a soft but also firm and reassuring ride. Handling is also excellent...this morning I took a left curve going 40 MPH and the car tracked it and took the corner with plenty of confidence with minimal understeer effect.
The steering ratio on the LS is also much quicker making the steering tighter and much more responsive to input. I can let go of the wheel while the car is travelling at 80 MPH and it tracks beautifully, straight and true on the highway...it indeed feels like is riding on 'Rails'.
ABS and all speeds electronic traction control complement the driving pleasure. The 3800 V6 with extra 20 horses and 25 pounds feet of torque do make a significant difference over the 3400 V6 driving feel.
The cruise control works wonders and keeps the car with a constant speed regardless of road inclination...much better system that the cruise control found on my previous Honda/Acura vehicles.
May be you should try driving an Impala LS to experience the difference...who knows it might prompt you to trade your VW Jetta...;-)
Nick
My LS does not exhibit the lack-on-center steering feel that you report. Actually my steering is nicely weighted on the center. I have had 2 Impala LS (2000 and 2001) and never had any issues with tracking or frequent steering corrections. I can let go of the wheel at 80 MPH and the car tracks straight...is amazing!.
If you have the same quick ratio steering as the one in the LS probably you do have a problem that the dealer needs to go over. If you don't have the LS quick ratio steering, then it is working as design.
I agree the car tends to get noisy when the going gets rough. At least the LS is a car of a sporty nature. Ride is firm and u tend to feel more the road imperfections. I personally don't like either cars that are extremely noisy or extremely isolating like most Toyota, Lexus and Buick models. To me a good car provides constant feedback even in the form of controlled road noise and steering feedback. Some people love to be isolated while driving...I don't think that makes for a safe car IMO.
My 2000 LS was way noisier than my current 2001 LS. The improved rear wheel liners in the 2001 could well be partly responsible for the noise reduction but probably GM stuffed a bit more insulating material in the car. The Goodyears are very noisy tires and if this is an issue, switch over to Michelin Pilot tires for a softer ride.
Does anyone know if the Base 3800 Impala gets the same quick ratio steering as the LS model?
Has anyone heard the same noise. How about someone driving over some grass and let us know.
Nick
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Thanks!
RR
Next question...Since this is not a show car..I am willing to trade some of the shine for better overall protection from the sun..pollutants & winter driving. Any ideas on what product(s) to purchase. Your experience & advice would be much appricated.
Thanks
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The paint on this car does seem soft to me too. It takes next to nothing to produce swirl marks in the finish, and I already have a couple of stone "rubs" on the hood - no chips, just rubs.
Brad
I bought my Dark Emerald Green Metallic LS with Medium Grey Leather Interior on May 1. It was built 11/00, but already had the 103 amp installed. I wanted an Impala because of fond memories of my dads 66 and 73 Impala.
Anyway, I've really been enjoying Nathan's Impala Site and browsing the messages here.
One of the sites off of Nathans Links page, showed an Impala with Dual CAT Back Exhaust. I was wondering if any of you would know what the part number is for that? My chevy parts guy can't find anything, yet his web site says its from GM.
The same site also shows some nice looking Impala floor mats. My first attempt at ordering them from my dealer ended up getting me another pair of the same floor mats that came with the car, which I returned. The parts guy called and got the correct part number which is 12495328 for $109.00 if anyone is interested.
My other two comments other than the part number for the CAT Back exhaust is this.. the kleenex holder in the arm rest. I have not found any brand of tissue that can fit into this thing. I think that GM just made it for the hell of it without checking to see if anything would fit in there. I have a Chevy Conversion van, a Gladiator, and they at least made the dispensers the right size for a travel size box to fit in there. This was my wife's gripe. I stuck some tissues out of a box in there and it doesn't work right or look that great either.
The other thing was the little bar that hides the onstar cable by the rear view mirror. I was just cleaning my windshield when I gently bumped it and it came off. I put it back up there but there is nothing that I can see that it locks into. Either that or something on mine is broken. It just seems to rely on each end kind of sticking into something to hold it in place. I don't know I don't like it because I feel like any little bump and its going to come off again.
No one carries the K&N Air Filter in my area for the Impala. I can find their model number on their web site, but I can't find a way to order one on-line. Has anyone found one on-line?
I guess thats it for now, sure appreciate this board being here.
ghostwolf
A couple of answers.....
1)Center Amrest Lid Tissue Holder::: The only pack of tissues that fit in there perfectly are the 'Pocket packs' of 15 count 2ply White Facial Tissues (Kleenex Brand, one we use)which measure 8.6 x 8.3 IN. or 21.8 x 21cm.
The tissue holder was obviously not meant to hold a full box of tissues. If an individual pack is not enough then you can carry a loose box of tissues (Not recommended) or try to get a GM part or aftermarket tissue box holder.
I have seen a few luxury cars that have special tissue box holders in the rear package shelf....life is good when you have a 'James' to drive you around..
2) Rear view mirror plastic cable cover...have no Idea how it is supposed to snap in place. I remember before taking delivery of mu new '01 Impala LS the cables were 'exposed' and the plastic cover came in a bag with other items (Including the OnStar antenna) in the trunk. Haven't had any problems with the cover but it is good to know how to properly put it back should it pop out of place.
bbrowne74 - I am having the same question, at both Auto Zone and the K&N Site http://www.knfilters.com/appinq.htm they give a product number for the 2000 but not for the 2001. I wonder if its a deal like the rear splash guards.. we just have to wait for them to make one for the 2001?
teo - appreciate those dimensions on the tissues! I'm going to have someone at my garage take a look at my mirror deal and tell me if that is the way its suppose to be. When I took delivery, they had it on already, and the onstar antenna was on too. I'll let you all know if it was just me or if it was a defective part.
the best prices I found:
$34.39 - SummitRacing.com
$35.20 - CarShopInc.com
$36.50 - MusicCityRodShop.com
$36.95 - MartelBros.com
obviously, the final price depends alot on how much s&h they charge
if you're willing to go through a little trouble, you can go to carparts.com ($43) and do a 110% price-match with any of the above places
Brian
Reminds me of the early 70's when GM decide that none of their cars needed primer.