2005 and Earlier Chevrolet Impala

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  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Your Service manager is incorrect. The 'revised' 103 AMP should plug in the same exact fashion as the old 104 AMP...no fuss, no mess, quick and easy.


    I think Joe's website has a 'printable' link as to how to make the dealer swap the AMP and order the part correctly. He was also successful at it:


    http://www.luckyjdr.homestead.com/impala.html


    What's really important is that your dealer is willing to help in your particular situation so take advantage of that and educate them about the AMP problem as they seem very clueless about the whole subject.


    Let us know if you need more info.

  • nosirrahgnosirrahg Member Posts: 872
    I asked this question once before, but I don't think I got an answer from anyone: since we know the disc brakes on the Impala are prone to warping, which can be due to overtightening of the lug nuts; if you have tires rotated/replaced by a "professional" who uses an air wrench and tightens them too much - is the damage done at that point, or can you go home and remove and re-tighten the lug nuts, and avoid problems? I've got to have something done with my brakes in a few weeks, but I'm halfway afraid to take them in, for fear they'll overtighten the wheels when they fix/replace the rotors, and I'll have the same problem all over again.
  • sweetpollysweetpolly Member Posts: 99
    Hank,

    I'm still experiencing the hesitation and stuttering, and as a matter of fact my car almost stalled in front of oncoming traffic recently. I've taken it back and forth to the dealer and supposedly they cannot duplicate the problem. Then I thought, the service manager never drive the car from the start-up point, it's usually driven around by the "lackeys" (for want of a better term to call them) who drive the customer cars from the intake area of the service desk to the area where the cars are actually being serviced. Well, duh! no wonder the problem can't be duplicated, since the service managers don't start the car and experience the problem, they have no proof the problem exists! And do you think the "lackeys" actually tell the service manager that the car hesitated or stuttered? Not likely! The "lackeys" also drive the car from the servicing area back to the waiting customer. So, they're most likely the only ones who can testify that the problem occurs. I'm going to call the dealer service manager and ask about this. So, in the meantime, I try to let it warm up a bit before pulling off from the curb.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Still struggling with the hesitation problems??

    Don't you think is time to get rid of the car?

    I think either the dealer is vastly incompetent or the car has a serious safety problems that deems it unfixable.

    I personally think that you are risking your personal safety in hopes that one day the car will be magically fixed. I am afraid your car is a big LEMON.

    Act under the law and get them to buy it back. Your life and well being is much more valuable that a car that tends to stall atthe worst moments....like oncoming traffic.

    Sorry for the rant, but I think your endurance and patience are putting a serious constraint to your personal safety.

    Time to let go of that car.
  • jons01jons01 Member Posts: 59
    My 2001 Impala LS radio is very mediocre, especially on bass output, but I do not know if the amp qualifies for a replacement by GM. How can I know if a TSB has been issued for my car? Has anyone had a replacement on a 2001 (build date 10/00)?
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Your poor sound quality is related to the old AMP installed in your car otherwise known as the '104' model. Since your car was built during 10/00 it pretty much confirms the fact that you still have the old bad trunk AMP. GM began installing a new updated version of the AMP known as model '103' during mid-year 2001 production on cars built beginning 12/00.

    Go over the Impala radio forum on instructions on how to proceed with dealer/GM and obtain the new '103' AMP under warranty.
  • bbrowne74bbrowne74 Member Posts: 58
    I got some pix up now @ my site w/ the vent visors. I'll take some more tonite and post them..

    You scared me about the cracking problem on the hood guard! I'm afraid to open my hood now! BUt I do love the look of it - haven't gone back to the bra yet!

    What is your determining factor between using the BRA and the Hood Guard?
  • sweetpollysweetpolly Member Posts: 99
    What is your email address? I'd like to discuss something with you away from the board.
  • bh0001bh0001 Member Posts: 340
    Make sure you check to see if your guard is getting pinched by the hood bumpers. If it does hit them, it is a safe bet that you will eventually have the cracking problem. Cut away the part of the guard that gets pinched and you'll be fine.

    As far as when I use which - the hood guard is what I leave on most of the time. If I'm going on a longer trip (a few hours) on any of the major highways in Ontario or at night I'll switch to the full bra. I want to try to keep stones and bugs off the front of the car as much as possible.

    It must drive you nuts having to park so close to other cars. I'm still at the point where I'll walk across and entire large parking lot to avoid parking close to any other cars!

    Checked out your pictures. Ventvisors look good. You took pictures of your dash while driving at 75mph?!?! What is that in the top of picture 6300004? A cell phone? What type of mount are you using? I'm still waiting for my cell phone installer to get a custom mount to install my handsfree cell kit in my car. The bracket will mount just to the right of the radio. I'll post pictures as soon as the install happens.
    Brad
  • bbrowne74bbrowne74 Member Posts: 58
    I'm lucky in that nobody is in the spots on either side of my car, so I literally own that whole section of the parking area! It's quite nice when it comes time to clean, wax, etc. since I have that whole area to lay out stuff with!

    That cellphone mount is a Samsonite Platnium Cellphone holder that suctions to my window. IT cost around 20 bucks @ Target, and I don't have to stick-mount or screw in anything. I have a small Nokia and don't like handsfree so I put teh phone there and run my Jabra Headset.

    As for a pic @ 75 MPH, no comment!:>

    I'll have to go check my hoodguard, I'll have to check out the hoodbumpers. I'm a little confused by it - have any pictures?
  • frankf3frankf3 Member Posts: 96
    Well.. so it goes on. I called Onstar again and spoke to another customer rep. I told them that I couldn't delete (or call) a certain nametag. They basically just reiterated the instructions on how to delete a nametag. I told them I must have done it 6 dozen times with no luck. I asked them if I changed my number and had the phone reprogramed, if this would delete it. I was told that the nametags are in a "protected" area that can't be erased by Onstar. At this point I asked what I would do if I sold the car. Onstar replied, Oh, you just have to delete the nametag... DUH. I told them if this was the case I would go to my friendly dealer to get the box (with my stuck nametag) replaced. Onstar said I don't think we would cover the parts to be replaced as being defective. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    On another note, Teo, my 2001 Impala has a build date of 10/00 and it does have the later '103 amp installed in it from the factory.

    I also have had a problem with my sunroof not opening. I was able to "help" it by pushing up on the back edge of the glass as I hit the button. It was like the gasket had stuck to the car. When I got home I applied some silicone to the gasket of the sunroof. It has worked flawlessly for 3 weeks since I put on the silicone.
  • bh0001bh0001 Member Posts: 340
    Sorry, no pictures. I'll try to get some soon but I don't take many pictures.

    Try this. Pop the hood (but don't open it all the way). Stick your fingers under and find the "tabs" on the hood guard that are screwed into the hood. On my car there are two hood bumpers (one on each side) on the frame of the car (between the grille and the fan) directly on the outside edge of where the "tabs" come down. The bumpers are about 1 1/2 inches in diameter. They catch about 1/2 an inch of the guard on the outside of the "tabs". I drilled out the part that catches using a 1 1/2 inch hole saw. The guard now wraps around the hood bumpers rather than hitting them directly.

    Hope that helps.
    Brad
  • caslcasl Member Posts: 33
    Hank/Sweetpolly,


    I, too, am still having the hesitation problem with my 2k. We're going to the dealer again on Monday for an oil change, warped rotor check, key fob check and another round of "Sorry, we can't duplicate the hesitation problem". My dealer's service department actually does sound concerned about the problem so I have typed up instructions for them to try to duplicate the problem and am going to tell them to try it every two hours or so (since they're going to have the car all day). I did read on another site: http://home.hawaii.rr.com/impala/Problems.html , Problem #3, that someone else had the same hesitation problem, and it was finally fixed by replacing the fuel pressure module. I'll mention this to the dealer. Besides the normal every other day occurance, I had a huge hesitation last week - it never kicked back in until I took my foot off the gas and put it back down (it usually kicks in while your foot is still on the gas) - I really thought it was going to stall at that point. I'm just thankful I live on a side street and don't have to pull into traffic right away.


    I've had the car (and the hesitation problem) since 10/99 and am over 32k miles right now. We're taking the car to Myrtle Beach next Friday (from NY) so I'm sure to hit the 36k mark by the end of July.

  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    frankg@equitrac.com
  • fathertyriciusfathertyricius Member Posts: 116
    Im sorry I didnt get back to you on this issue, been very busy. I called On Star two weeks ago and spoke to a Tanya. She mentioned that you spoke to her the day before I did. I pressured her to admitting that if the nametag cant be deleted, its considered to be a defect with the apparatus. I would go to the Chevy service manager and demand to have a new On Star module installed, since yours doesnt delete the nametag like its suppose to, it should be considered a defective device. Have the service manager try to delete that nametag, and when it wont delete... look at him or her and just say with some hand motion for effects..."It doesnt work does it".... when the manager agrees that the nametag cant be deleted then firmly say...."fix it or replace it". If Chevy agrees to replace it, remember to delete all existing nametags that are able to delete. I wouldnt let Chevy get away with this. Until this matter is resolved I would be at that dealer every day until they got so sick of me that they would put another unit in the car just to get rid of me. Your car is under warranty and let them stand behind the product. Let us know what happens. Goodluck :)
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Check your E-mail InBox...
  • kenbuzzkenbuzz Member Posts: 99
    I've noticed that the interior rearview mirror on my 2k1 LS vibrates quite a bit when driving. When I look through it at what's going on behind me, traffic is all blurred. When I reach up to steady it by hand it improves somewhat but not completely.

    The outside rv mirrors are rock steady.

    Anyone else notice this too?
  • bh0001bh0001 Member Posts: 340
    Yes - but it's because the bass from my 103 amp is so nice!
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    I have noticed this too (Mirror shaking) only when the car's interior is very hot. It goes away after 10 minutes of driving the car with the A/C on the 3 or 4 fan speed position. It seems that the intense heat that goes thru the windshield, 'weakens' the rearview mirror support. Once the temperature goes down inside the cabin it goes away.

    My 2000 LS used to do this and my '01 LS does the same. I think the Rearview mirror is one heavy assembly if you have the self dimming mirror + the OnStar controls. It doesn't bother me because it goes away fast but if anyone (Night_owl) might look into this and have a suggestion, I would certainly appreciate it.

    The heat does cause this *funny* interior rearview mirror effect.

    And...also the nice Bass from my 103 AMP can cause a case of vibration in the mirror from time to time :)
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    All three impalas that i drove had the mirror shake. The ones with onstar are worse.
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    I did notice my mirror would shake sometimes, but I never pinpointed the cause/conditions. Interesting theory. I gotta look into that...
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    I am wondering if duct tape would have fixed my clunking intrigue suspension?
  • cgncgn Member Posts: 6
    I used to only drive impalas from 65 thru 71 then the quality of GM went thru the floor and i have not had one since. The new Impala has brought back the "Chevy" fever for me and I truly want to buy one. HOWEVER; as i read the post on the board regarding the "pop" sounds and steering shaft issues etc. I can't help but get that old familar GM lack of quality control back in my ear. I love the new Impala and really want to get one. Tell me my concerns are invalid.
  • henerhener Member Posts: 14
    I,m looking at a 2001 LS and I like what I see but with it being close to the end of the model year I was wondering what changes will be made to the 2002 model. Will they be tweaks or will there be someting to make it worth the wait? Any news would help make the decision.
  • 2k_impala_ls2k_impala_ls Member Posts: 311
    I got the invoice in the mail and a copy of it is on my site for viewing in the same location of the amp info. There is a number on it but not sure if it is the TSB #.

    http://www.luckyjdr.homestead.com/impala.html
  • cgncgn Member Posts: 6
    is it true that the 03 model will be a new design? if so, is there anyplace where the that can be seen?
  • frankf3frankf3 Member Posts: 96
    Has anyone ever made any headway into getting a CD changer working with the factory head unit AND Onstar ? I happened to stumble across this link while searching for something else on the web. This site states that they have hard to find OEM items. The web site is http://www.partydown.com/items/item250.htm The changer is listed as GM OEM 67DISC CD CHANGER FOR ONSTAR SYSTEMS, and also states that the unit is operated from the factory radio and or steeering wheel controls. It also states all wires and brackets include(d).
  • frankf3frankf3 Member Posts: 96
    When the Impala goes into the dealer the next time, I will have to bring it up to them just as you presented it. Hopefully they will see it my way
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    As long as you buy an impala with a later build date you should be fine. I am thinking anything after 12/00 or 01/01 will have all the updates.
    I have 1800 miles on my 01/01 impala and the only thing it needs is to have the roof mouldings replaced.
    The build date is on the driver's side door and on the invoice.
  • fathertyriciusfathertyricius Member Posts: 116
    To CGN....I have a 2001 Impala LS with a build date of 12/00 with almost 6000 miles and everything is running smooooooooooooooooth. I highly recomend the car. Take a few test drives to get the new GM experience back in your blood. Its worth the time. If you decide not to buy the Impala LS, at least you gave it a try. In my opinion, those old days are over. I owned two Chevy Caprice's through that period 77 & 89 that you mentioned and I had no problems with them either. I rate the quality of my new Impala LS a big 100 out of a 100. See for yourself when you test drive it. Im sure you will agree. Enjoy... Let us know.

    PS... I should go into advertising... :)
  • bh0001bh0001 Member Posts: 340
    Look for a 2001 with a build date after 12/00. Take it for a test drive. I bet you'll LOVE it. I have an LS built 04/01 and it's absolutely AMAZING. It's run perfectly since I picked it up (I'm up to 5200 km).

    These cars have excellent power, AWESOME brakes, stand-out-from-the-crowd styling, and great comfort. As with ANY new design, there were a couple of issues with the first re-issue of the Impala (2000 model year). These have been resolved.

    Obviously nobody can comment on long-term reliability, but my '98 Lumina that I had before the Impala went 112,000km in the three years I had it and all I did was change the oil (EVERY 5000 km) and replace the front brake pads at 93,000km (didn't even need the rotors turned). If the Impala team took any cues from the Lumina team, I'd say reliability should be okay.
    Brad
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    Don't know about using a cd changer with the onstar but more than one person has told me that there is no way a cd changer will work in this car without being of the FM modulated variety. Even though a cd changer harness was found in the trunk (it's not connected to the head unit for some reason) it will not work. This might be the stupidest thing I've ever seen in a car. First, why put it in if it won't work due to RDS function of the radio? Second, is that the reason it's not hooked up to the head unit, because it will mess with the RDS? Very strange. I ended up putting in the 10 disc changer from GM in the trunk that is FM modulated, it has a wireless remote but the control panel is within arms reach so I never use it. The volume can be controlled from the steering wheel controls but not the selecetion of discs or tracks. I have the cd indash which I use for individual cd's but the trunk mounted changer is good for long trips or not having to worry about changing a cd while driving. With my new 103 amp installed I notice no difference between the FM modulated system and my in dash cd player. Here in Arizona we have to drive long distances thru desert where there are no radio stations to speak of and if there are the reception is poor, however I've not had a problem with the quality of the sound on frequency
    88.7 which is what it was set to.
  • crosley4crosley4 Member Posts: 295
    We are thinking of talking to our service guy and seeing if we can get an AMP replacement. Our 2k LS has over 40k miles on it, but one of our early complaints at the dealer was the poor sound quality.

    The *lifers* here at this bbs will remember in the early daze of radio discussion it was thought the rear speakers were the incorrect units. Then some body found out the it was the poor functionality of the rear AMP.

    Last night I would swear I felt / heard a *pop* that reminded me of the cradle mount *pop* that was trouble in these early cars....... I hope not.

    Tony
  • frankf3frankf3 Member Posts: 96
    I was thinking about some of the hesitation problems that others are having with their Impalas. What I have to relate my or may not have any bearing on their conditions but maybe it will help. I've owned several GM vehicles with hesitation problems. The first being a '73 Chevy Blazer with a manual transmission. In going to the dealer several times they determined that I had a fault thermal vacuum valve. Basically this valve was allowing too much ignition timing advance when the engine was cold. This would show up when trying to accelerate from a stop. In the Impalas, there may be several reasons that are contributing to the hesitation. As stated in the sales brochure and on this forum, they have improved the torque convertor to decrease drag on the engine when the car is in drive with the engine idling. I have noticed that the car has a "light" gas pedal that doesn't have strong return springs tied to it. As a result of the combination a lightly loaded engine that may not be fully warmed up with too much ignition timing may hesitate if called apon to accelerate too rapidly. Maybe GM has a revised fuel/ignition timing profile/curve that gives th engine leass timing advance when cold to load into the computer that runs the engine.
  • rooster9rooster9 Member Posts: 239
    My brother has a '01 Chevy Impala LS. When the cruise control is set, if the car goes down a pretty steep hill it will not hold the speed, but speed way up. Does anyone else have this problem? Or is it normal?
  • morphius909morphius909 Member Posts: 67
    I have experienced the same thing in our 2000 LS.
    I have also experienced the same thing in other vehicles, I think if the hill is steep enough, it will just let go.

    Paul
  • morphius909morphius909 Member Posts: 67
    I think I complained about excessive gas useage on this forum not to long ago. Well, I think I finally figured out why. Why it sucks gas, and is not so smooth at idle, etc etc.

    The AIR FILTER was CLOGGED TO THE MAX!

    Holy Smoly! When I installed the new one( A Fram for 19.99 CDN, GM wanted 40.00! Whatever)wow, what a difference! You can hear the Engine slurp the air in. And the starting and idle is like new again!

    I wonder if that is why I had the "Service Vehicle Soon" light?

    Watch those Air Filters Folks!

    Paul
  • cgaydoscgaydos Member Posts: 116
    Took delivery of our '00 Impala in July '99. Dark Carmine Red, Base model with all options except sunroof and CD changer (needed 6 passenger seating for when minivan is unavailable, so LS was not suitable). Chose Impala largely due to $5300 GM Card discount available at the time.

    Summary after two years -- very satisfied.

    14.5k miles, mostly short trips in the city, about 15% highway speeds. Oil/Filter changed frequently, tires rotated at 7500 miles.

    Problems to date:

    * High-pitched whine from A/C blower after 4 months. Dealer diagnosed and fixed immediately.
    * "Popping" engine cradle. Dealer diagnosed and fixed immediately.
    * Slight, very infrequent engine hesistation after starting. Waiting for TSB or other mention of a known fix. Almost impossible to duplicate at will.
    * Two interior panel rattles. Located and fixed by self.
    * Rear driver side door tended to stick slightly. Problem worked itself out after 6 months.

    Complaints:
    * Trunk and door panels appear to be ill-fitting, although there is no leakage.
    * Center console is cheaply made.
    * Would like to be able to defeat interior lighting when arriving home at night with kids asleep in car.
    * How to trigger car alarm and wake neighbors: Stop car, put in park, remove key, pop trunk, open door, lock doors, close door, open trunk.
    * Front rubber air dam scraping against driveway. I know it doesn't hurt it but it sounds awful.
    * Would love a tachometer instead of that huge gas gauge that comes with the base model.
    * 60/40 bench should have 40 on driver side. When center is occupied want the 60 side (with the center passenger) to be moved back all the way to compensate for air bag.

    Things I like:
    * Drive/handling/ride. Bought car for utility, these are nice pluses.
    * Ergonomics. Pull light, keyhole-on-dashboard, steering wheel radio controls, steering wheel, CC, blinkers, wipers.
    * Seats. Just great.
    * Wiper sprayers. Good design.
    * Auto-on lights.
    * RDS radio system.
    * Heated seats on such a low-priced car.
    * Large trunk. Nice design to keep water out.
    * Hydraulic Hood.
    * Engine layout. Easy to do oil change.
    * Safety ratings.
    * Tires. Great performance. Have not needed new air in 2 years.

    Overall a purchase I'd make again in a heartbeat. Expect to keep this car for at least another 6 years.
  • cgncgn Member Posts: 6
    appreciate the advise on the Impala inquiry. Thanks everyone.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Are you going to buy one?
  • bbrowne74bbrowne74 Member Posts: 58
    Don't vehicles gain speed when going down hills? I guess Cruise control will maintain speed, but I didn't think you had auto-braking, just a stopping of acceleration.

    I've had this w/ all my cars w/ Cruise and all tht I can recall driving. This isn't a problem w/ cruise control - if you roll a car down a hill it will increase in speed unless you apply the brakes.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Cruise control should apply the brakes downhill.
  • daveleckdaveleck Member Posts: 16
    You're kidding, right?

    No GM passenger car cruise control has ever had the ability to apply the brakes.
  • frankb7frankb7 Member Posts: 18
    Folks,

    A month or so ago, I related how a dealer ordered me an 01 loaded base, and then mistakenly sold it as part of dealer inventory. Some believed the mistake, most did not. In any case, after profuse apologies, and an alleged revamp of their inventory check-in' process (plus two of the new people on staff re-trained to handle inventory), they tried to order me an 02, with the same specs.

    At first they were not sure they could get the order in, but then they confirmed that the car is supposed to be built during the week of July 23, with delivery around the first week in August. Said they would give me dealer cost because of the mistake they made. At the time, they did not yet have the pricing information on the 02, so I do not know how that translates. In addition, part of the original price I negotiated for the 01, included a $750 rebate, which I am guessing will not be in effect on the 02, in August, but I am expecting to pay less than my 01 price anyway. My questions are: 1) Is my expectation on pricing fair, and 2) where is the information on any of the 02 cars? If these bad-boys are due out in four weeks, don't we usually see reviews, pics, etc., on Edmunds, Carpoint, etc. I know the Impala has only minor changes (dual heating standard, etc.), but where are the reviews, and pics for any of the new cars?

    Thanks

    Frank
  • mediumfrymediumfry Member Posts: 239
    I've found the RV mirrors shake a lot when the car's warm/hot inside, just as others have found. New ones do it the same as mine so I haven't mentioned it to the service folks. Nature of the beast I guess. Duct tape? Probably will work but it gets pretty sloppy when hot. I'm not going to use it. Duct tape on the Intrigue suspension? I like that...

    cgn, we've got a lot of Impala fans on this site, and many have had problems. But the vast majority have had minor (or at least fixable) problems and cars built after 12/00 seem to be great. I wouldn't hesitate to get one if I were you.

    I was just on vacation to Colorado. A 3000+ mile trip in nine days. What a pleasure!! I used the cruise extensively on fairly hilly roads (not the mountain grades though) and found the cruise to be well behaved both uphill and downhill. The cruise will not downshift to slow the car (or apply the brake) on a down-grade. However, the tranny did seem to engage on down slopes therefore allowing the engine to slow the vehicle back to set-point without user intervention. It wasn't perfect but was obviously programmed to try. I was impressed.
    On the long uphill and downhill mountain grades the cruise wasn't practical to use so I didn't. It's too difficult to maintain exact speed on ups and downs and sharp, slow turns, etc.
  • hunter39hunter39 Member Posts: 375
    On my 4000 mile plus trip in May I used the cruise quite a bit as well, there were not many hills with steep grades but if you get the hang of it, using the controls on the steering wheel makes it much easier, when you have to slow down on a hill I disengage the cruise and let the car decelerate, if the hill is large or a steep grade of say 8% or more and there is no traffic in front of you it shouldn't matter, but then you'd want your foot near the brake anyway. The car will lock into the lowest speed you hit and if you want to get back up to cruising speed when the next hill comes up, just hit resume and get it where you want. I found it was much easier doing that than moving my feet around.
  • cgncgn Member Posts: 6
    very possible.....sept.
  • baveuxbaveux Member Posts: 175
    I wonder,I test drive a base loaded with the 3.4.
    I do not know if its me, but the car even new seems noisier than my current Lumina 99,it is me ?
    Tire noise specially,what do you think ?
    And now just to make you realize how lucky you are peoples from the US,that here in Canada we have(not really if we negociate)to pay for a base Impala 2001,with 1SB,upgraded radio,custom seat 60/40 elec.on one side,dual climate zone, $ 28475.00 msrp !!! Transport included,but not the taxes...You make me sick with your Impala at 22k!!!
    have a good day,and if I have to wear hear plug I'll keep my reliable and quiet Lumina !!!
  • sweetpollysweetpolly Member Posts: 99
    Thanks for the message above, however, I won't be able to read the emails you sent me last week (after 5PM) until I go back to work tomorrow. That email address was my work email address. If you need to send email to me after 5 PM on weekdays or weekends, send to me at my home email address: frt2001@earthlink.net

    Again, thanks for your advice.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    I am assuming you test drove a new 2001 with the wheel liners.
    The car will quiet down some more once the nobby bits on the tires wear off. Probably around a 1000 miles or so.
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