2013 and earlier Honda Odyssey Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • dlovedlove Member Posts: 13
    I went in to one dealer to see if he could beat $29,008 (he said he could only do as low as $29,300 if I ordered for delivery in November or December!). Anyway, I brought in the confirmation page of the fax I sent, which on my fax includes the cover page of the fax. I showed it to him asking how he could not have received it. He didn't know. However, other dealers I contacted also said they never received the fax. I know some did, so unless my fax was on the fritz (which I doubt, since all other faxes are always received), something funny is going on. Not sure what.

    I still wonder whether I was better off on a $28,449 2005 instead of a $29,008 2006. Other than a few bells and whistles, the 06 is identical to the 05, right? And I assume 1 year of depreciation isn't worth the added amount I paid... Perhaps I made a poor decision there. Oh well.
  • odessitodessit Member Posts: 140
    I think 2005 and 2006 are technologically different. Correct me if I am wrong but only 2006 models (EXL and higher) have three cylinders shutting off at a cruising speed? Right? Did 2005 models have it?
    I still think you can do better than 29000, why don’t you want to try upstate NY?
    mike
  • bighoo93bighoo93 Member Posts: 24
    2005 models also had it. Also, 2005 was the first year of the redesign, and frequently there are more problems with a first year design release, though I can't say that is going to be the case here. Finally, if you plan to trade the car in within the next 5 years or so, the 06 will depreciate less in that time. If you are going to keep it until it runs into the ground (or at least 10 years or so), then that element doesn't matter.

    29,000 seems like a decent price on a 2006 EX-L. Not saying you couldn't do better, but from what I've read here and experienced in my own search, its pretty good. Maybe you could save a few hundred dollars by finding a better offer, but not likely $1000 or more.
  • njguy3njguy3 Member Posts: 7
    I picked the vehicle(EXL-RES) today. The True out the door price is :32,500$

    To answer your questions

    1. I didnot get any extra options , I just took EX with leather and DVD(Model :EXL RES)
    2. No extras given by dealer.
    3. Saten Island, NY

    They gave be a fair price but tried to force me in a offer where I get high interest rate(7%) with a condition not to pre-pay with in 18 months. I managed to remove the pre-pay condition on loan and planning to pay off loan as early as possible.
  • dlovedlove Member Posts: 13
    I did plan on doing upstate NY if I got a good deal, but I have to assume that I wouldn't have done better than your $24,600. And so you fator in cost of me and someone else driving up there and back in my current car (roughly $70 in gas), plus cost of a tank on the Odyssey coming down (another $35+?) plus the cost of me losing a day of my weekend travelling and suddently the $400 difference isn't so huge. I have a 1 year old, so finding a 3rd person to either watch him (so my wife could come with me) or come with me upstate would be a headache. Given that the out of pocket cost difference to me would start at about $275, not including the cost for my time, I thought it best to go with $29,008.
  • odessitodessit Member Posts: 140
    I absolutely agree with you! The cost of driving 4 hours from NYC to here would definitely offset the entire saving on the vehicle price. Good luck with your new car.
    mike
  • breindersbreinders Member Posts: 23
    I wonder if they switched the location of the badge so that the dealers can easily tell an 05 from an 06 on the lot. Makes it easier to organize cars on the lot, walk a customer to the correct car, etc.

    Someone posted once that the LXs did not have the roof rack rails for the same reason. (Although I could have seen the roof rack rails being left off to keep the cost down.)
  • coolhead1001coolhead1001 Member Posts: 4
    In general, how do you find email address for dealers to send out request for quote? I would appreciate your help on this.

    I sent out request via internet car buying websites. But they always forwarded my requests to the same 2-3 dealers.

    Thanks.
  • sanjaybsanjayb Member Posts: 2
    Tried for a while to buy exl with nav and res in Washington dc area. everyone wanted MSRP plus. Travelled to jones honda in lancaster pa and got $2200 off sticker. The website is www.gojones.com. rented a car for one way from avis and drove back in the van. the rental was a little bit high ($90) but still overall saved money.
  • ody_manody_man Member Posts: 12
    My 2 pence...

    First, I doubt if dealerships are as monolithic as our everyday offices... who picks the fax and does what with it, is all uncontrolled. Chances are the hawkish sales guys are simply trashing it... for them it is the sucker that walks in that counts... not the fax guy who may not show up at all.

    I'd say, call up the dealership, ask for 'sales manager', not a sales associate. Now talk as if you WILL buy the car, and PUSH.

    If you are certain you cant do better, you may like to check out a paid service called carbargains.org. They seem to have a price guarantee that their charge will be paid for. I didnt use them because I could negotiate my 06 EX home delivered at no xtra charge ~ $400 above invoice.

    Also, feel free to read my posting a few days ago on why one should not buy a 05 vintage.

    Ody Man
  • sj2000sj2000 Member Posts: 9
    hi, I just want to make sure, is this 2005/2006? Thanks.
  • saneonesaneone Member Posts: 11
    The best quote I have received so far is 34,423 (for 2006 EX-L R&N) but I am still investigating further. I am willing to drive out to Oregon or Idaho to get a better deal. I plan on sending e-mails to the dealerships in that area & get a quote
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    I agree with Ody. Faxes are just scratch paper waiting for a reason like a customer walking in who wants to add something up or scribble while waiting. I highly recommend using e-mail and go for the internet sales manager as they're typically senior level folks and typically are dedicated to online sales or repeats/referrals. You can get there by using the Honda website to build your dream ride and request a price quote or put in the area you want to ping.

    One reason dealers may shy away from this is that it puts them on the defensive, you can't BS talk a fax machine plus like e-mail, it offers a permanent record of what transpired, no he said-she said. You're best to wait until you are ready to buy before you try to give the impression you are ready to buy. Availability comes into play here, allocations, scarce if you want a Touring.

    If you do go for a sales manager recognize he doesn't want to be a salesman any more. He may brush you off to a hawkish guy in white patent leather buckle shoes named Vince who brings the deal back to him for review. You run the risk of going head to head with the godfather of pricing who will turn down a reasonable offer because you are taking up his precious time. I'm not just rambling, I've lived this scenario... and pay special attention to their shoes, they define their role. You may want to consider asking the internet sales manager to take a snapshot of their shoes for you too, LOL.
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Rear bumper badge moved from right side in 2005 to left side in 2006. This was probably a styling change as little else changed between MY's. Here's what I've been able to see changed between 05&06 MY's on the Touring only, we got a 2006 T w/Nav last week:
    - Touring now comes with DVD std, NAVI is option
    - 5yr 60K mile powetrain warranty, 05 had 3/36
    - $300 more (why buy an '05?)
    - Destination went up slightly ($35?)
    - Engine HP rating went from 255 to 244 only because of the criteria and methods used for testing, this is the same exact engine is in both MY's, no change!

    Feel free to amend this list as I'm sure I forgot something. Note that all 2005 & 2006 EX-L Ody's and above have the VTEC 20C/28H rated V-6 that becomes and 3-fwd cyl engine when cruising or decelerating engine. This doesn't shut off at 80 like someone posted but it will not go into ECO mode until it warms up a minute or two.
  • sudysudy Member Posts: 1
    I have been receiving quotes for 2005/2006 Honda Odyssey Touring and the best one I have gotten so far is $37,600. I am looking for experiences where people have been able to negotiate better deals as well as negotiating tips. I have gotten feedback from some dealers saying that $37K is impossible and that if anyone offers it, it is most probably a lie. Any comments?
  • macdaddygmacdaddyg Member Posts: 7
    For reference purposes... bought 2006 exl r/n in so cal for $33200.
  • macdaddygmacdaddyg Member Posts: 7
    Try gardena honda or valencia honda - ask for internet sales person.
  • desixpdesixp Member Posts: 6
    Sanjay,

    I live in DC area looking for 06 EXL-RES model. Thanks for the info. My email address is desixp-at-gmail.com

    Thanks,

    Vasu
  • obsessing3obsessing3 Member Posts: 2
    We just bought an '06 EX over the phone for $27,000 ... I hope that is a good deal!!! We wouldn't have had the guts to make an offer that low if I hadn't found these forums last night ... the dealer we visited seemed quite firm on the $28,000 neighborhood and the Edmunds TMV price for our area (Rochester N.Y.) is $28,301. But following a suggestion here, I emailed three other dealers last night. One called back today and said they wouldn't give a price over the phone; we had to come in. We didn't hear from the others but my husband called one tonight and asked for a price, saying "If you tell me $27,000 I'll buy it right now over the phone." We expected him to make a counter-offer and then we'd have time to call our original dealer to see what he said, but instead he called us back a few minutes later and took the $27,000! He had one on the lot (sage green) and now it's ours!
  • ody_manody_man Member Posts: 12
    Here is a writeup of my buying process that netted a 06 Ody at $400 above invoice, delivered home, full gas tank at no extra charge. I apologize if a few things may be far too obvious to some, nevertheless, it would help keep all in perspective.

    1. Promise yourself the following:

    - Not to assume 'van is short in supply' and people are lining up to pick up the vehicle. This defeatist attitude will set you up for paying up more.

    - Use caution if a friend, coworker, or neighbor, 'knows' someone in dealership and can get you a good price. Doesn't hurt to know, but then, I think some of these well-meaning folks suffer from a variant of 'Stockholm Syndrome,' where if they know someone at the dealership, they feel compelled to direct traffic.

    - The guy at the other end (dealership) WILL wring out YOUR money to maximum extent. Courteous or not.

    - Like against Casinos, you cant win, but you can limit perceived loss. You cant win, because they can size you up better than you can size them up.

    - Try not to low ball unrealistically, you can be easily brushed aside.

    - Dont even think sticker, unless you wish to get a Darwin Award (this award is given to those whose IQ justifies their demise)

    2. Use auto referral service like BJ's, Costco, Sam's Club

    You dont have to be a member of these clubs if you can do it smartly - find a friend to get you a list of 'participating dealer.' Do join when you are ready.

    Start from farthest away (say 250 mi), and then save the nearest for the last. Push the nearest for a better quote. Dont buy into the phrase 'negotiated price.' Make sure you join the club and do this formally once you are ready to do business.

    This does two things - gets you a below MSRP baseline without pow-wow, and perhaps, someone to complain should something go sour.

    KEY: Reach the contact listed, NOT a helpful substitute sales associate

    Try other dealers via normal internet email (skirting the club ones).

    3. Protect your identity

    Consider using a legally acceptable alias. If you run into a lowball reject, you can call in again under your usual name. Oh heck, play mind games with them!

    Here are some key points:

    - When you call, use a single-call caller ID block (its free, check local phone company for * number, may not work for a Dealer 800 number). Or use non-cell, non-home, non-work phone. Consider a set of different calling cards. Do realize, when the operator transfers, your caller ID is flashed at agents desk.

    - Sign up for temperory emails

    - DO not select color or options upfront unless you are ready to get your final bid.

    4. Some Observations:

    It seems the dealership is a house divided. There are sales agents and then there are their managers. Do not let a sales agent answer your call meant for internet manager. If you do, here is what may happen - agent will take your call, promise
    to call back with quote, and then tell sweetly that they cant do it. Chances are,
    he never even went to any Manager.

    From his perspective, a car in the lot of any shade, is a shot in the arm to make a sale to the next 'sucker' that walks in. A car flagged out as sold, or in transit, is his loss.

    Sales Managers are looking for bottom line (price paid - secretive dealer cost) while agents are looking to cross a hurdle, say $800 above invoice (a guess) before a sliding scale commission kicks in.

    However, be prepared to deal with a sales agent at instance of sales Manager.

    5. Ditch that notion - Last years' Model is a Good Deal

    You cant win fiscally. If a vehicle depreciates 10% first year, you would need to negotiate about $2500-$3000 off 2006 offer. If your 2006 target were $500-$1000 above invoice, you would be sufficiently near or below to dealer cost. Chances are, the dealer would rather sell it to the next sucker that walks in at $1000 below invoice.

    Plan to keep it for 10yrs? Still a risk. Should another car total your vehicle in the next few years, their insurance will hand you actual car value (ACV). You may be left holding the bag.

    Final Comments:

    Hope some of you find this useful. This is a hop on - hop off type forum. Now that I have the vehicle, I'll bow out in a week or so. I may, however, hang around by the warranty forum though...

    Meanwhile... Go get 'em!!!

    MSG for HOST: Should you find this writeup useful, feel free to repost at times for the benefit of the Members. Thanks for keeping us in line, and we appreciate your volunteer effort.

    Ody_Man
  • odysseyownerodysseyowner Member Posts: 8
    I apologize if this is not posted in the correct location. Does an offer of $35,000 sound fair for a 2006 EX-L RES NAV for an OTD price? I live in NW Florida, but I will definately travel to get a good price. Any opinions would be appreciated.
  • saneonesaneone Member Posts: 11
    Thanks a bunch, this really helps. Motivates me to hold out rather than crumble like the rest of the folks in this area that pay top $$ & are unrealistically driving the market price higher. I might just drive over to another state to get a better price
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Ody,

    You da' man! Thanks for posting these insightful hints. I had already implemented most of them on my own when I bought our '06 Touring R&N last week after a multi-media haggling for several more. I never thought to sum them up as you did and I'm sure they'll live on. Hope you stick around or at least drop in regularly. FYI, I suffer from 'Stockholm Syndrome' and especially agree with your ever shrinking radius reduction pricing plan, saving local dealers for last. Unfortunately for our locals, they lost out by over a grand (more like $2K) to an Atlanta dealer who recognized they had to be competitive to my biz.

    Dave
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Here's some good but long-winded pricing information on your offer that I put together:

    This compares the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, Dealer Invoice Price, and Consumer Reports Wholesale Price (CRWP); I paid $12 for this info. The CRWP is the suggested place to start when negotiating. They suggest you should be able to buy a vehicle at 4 to 8 percent above CRWP, good luck doing so on any Odyssey locally as I too am in NW FL. This CRWP is significantly below Edmunds pricing (pre-T&T) that is based on actual transactions so obviously dealers are making a healthy profit but do offer some discount. Your model choice is one of the most popular so you should have less trouble finding one than I did on a Touring R&N.

    Note: All prices quoted include $550 destination but don't include any dealer prep fees, usually around $400.

    Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of EX w/ Leather RES and Navi (R&N), Manufacturer Code RL3875KW, is $34,845.

    Dealer Invoice Price for an EX/L R&N represents the dealer's maximum cost to acquire the car from the manufacturer at $31,399.

    The CRWP includes incentives and holdbacks, nothing cosmic happening on an Odyssey and it's near impossible to delve into this 'overhead' stash, at least on this vehicle. EX/L R&N Invoice Price is $31,399 minus Dealer Holdback of $1,029 equals a total CRWP of $30,370. Four percent ($1,215) and eight percent ($2,430) above this price means theoretically you should be able to buy this vehicle between $31,585 and $32,800 before T&T,. Adding six percent FL tax ($1,968), $400 for those hard to avoid dealer prep fees, $85 for tag, I come up with an eight percent over CRWP Out the Door price of $35,253. If you use four percent over CRWP it comes to $33,965. Your price of $35K is toward the upper end of this range (7%-ish).

    To contrast by showing what's really happening, Edmunds pricing is $33,944 (total with options, before T&T) and would represent an OTD price of basically $35,950.

    I didn't have success nudging Gary Smith (FWB) or Pensacola Honda much below MSRP (approx $500) on a Touring R&N plus they didn't have what I wanted in stock or inbound and few dealers will swap Tourings. Both kindly rejected the invoice up type approach saying this model is too popular to bargain that way.

    Bottom line is from what I come up with, $35K OTD for an '06 EX/L R&N is a good price in the Southeast. At the risk of suffering from 'Stockholm Syndrome' you may want to give the internet managers at Gwinnett Honda, (Honda Mall of GA?) or where I bought mine, Hennessy Honda in Woodstock, GA (Northern Atlanta) a try. When our Touring came in, (about a week), I flew there for $49 (Airtran 7 day adv) and they picked me up at the airport. It was a flawless transaction that I kicked off with Honda site e-mail quote requests from a large radius of dealers, would do it again, no pressure. I wanted to stay local but saved nearly $2K including gas home and got 27 MPG on the 350 mile trip back. Good luck and keep us posted!
  • odysseyownerodysseyowner Member Posts: 8
    Thanks so much for that info. It's exactly what I needed to hear. I have been to Pensacola Honda several times. We bought our 2000 EX there. At that time they didn't budge much off MSRP also, until I had a competing internet quote. Sounds like a $34,500 would be a fair price for both me and the dealer. Just have to find a dealer willing to bite. Will keep my progress posted. Thanks again.
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Glad to help. You may want to stay with $35K but have them throw in and install some goodies like moonroof visor, air deflector, side window deflectors. I worked well for me as a deal clincher, got the works at cost.

    Enjoy the hunt, reap the rewards.
  • odysseyownerodysseyowner Member Posts: 8
    Thanks again. Will give those GA dealers a try. Since I am prepared to buy today (no trade-in) and willing to wait for what I want, I feel like I have a little more advantage. Would you throw out that offer as a "I will buy this van for $XX,XXX OTD today" or just let them initially send a quote then negotiate down from there.
  • krs1krs1 Member Posts: 36
    hey Ody Man!

    This was very helpful. Not many are willing to go to so much detail. We will be sad to see you go.. Haven't bought my Ody yet but this will help getting the best price.
  • krs1krs1 Member Posts: 36
    "Would you throw out that offer as a "I will buy this van for $XX,XXX OTD today" or just let them initially send a quote then negotiate down from there"

    it might be better to let them send you a quote and bargain from there... the flip side might be... your OTD you give them off the bat might be higher then the dealer quote ... if you go first you run that risk....
  • odysseyownerodysseyowner Member Posts: 8
    Now that makes sense. I don't really expect to have the dealer come right back with a price lower that that right off. But...If they did, it definately would be the safest way to go, then I can come back with my "I'll buy it RIGHT NOW" price. I'm Trying to formulate my best strategy for this negotiation. Most of us do not get training in this skillful art so every tip is valuable. Thanks again and good luck on your hunt.
  • bscottobscotto Member Posts: 1
    I checked out this forum before I bought, so I wanted to pass along my price paid as a reference point to others. Maybe I could have done better, but here is what I got: 2006 EX-L NO Nav, NO RES, + Dealer Extras that I did actually want: Sport pkg: auto day/night mirror w/compass, fog lights, crossbars, All season pkg: all season floor mats, cargo tray, splash guards.
    Total Cost: $29,750.
    I figure without extras I could have maybe done minimum of $28,750 since I had an online offer of $28,500 turned down at supposedly a low-cost dealer and because of the other posts here for my area. Pricing the dealer extras online at College Hills without installation came out to be $859. I know dealer cost even installed was less, but this would be a good benchmark.. I used the make an offer function on the dealer website 1 mile from my house and just chose to offer $29,750 because I thought it would save haggling and it did, the dealer accepted. I think with a little more work I could have gone a few hundred lower, but this seems like an o.k. deal to me.
    I hope this is helpful to others and am curious about others' opinions of the price paid.
  • bighoo93bighoo93 Member Posts: 24
    I encountered this situation. I was trying to collect best-offer quotes, and told the dealers that I was making my decision within 24 hours, going with the best deal. This one manager kept wanting to know my best offer, so she could see if she could match it. I did not want to do that, for the reason mentioned above: you don't know how much you are leaving on the table. However, she finally asked me to give her a figure that I had in mind, one that I could say I would buy from her if they accepted it. So, I did just that. I had a figure that I knew I would feel very happy about, and I gave that (the off-the-lot or on-the-road price, not just base vehicle). To my surprise, it was accepted.

    Now, there are two ways to take that. I can be happy, because I got a price that I knew I would be happy with. Or, I can worry that maybe I didn't get the absolute best price possible. I choose the former. This isn't a competition to see who can get the best price. You do the best you can, and in the end, if you can get a price that you are comfortable with and feel is fair based on your research and knowledge of the invoice and the prices being paid in the market, you take it and have a nice day.

    So my advice if they insist on asking you for this price is to be honest. Quote one that is not absurd, but that you would be happy to accept. Maybe you'll get it. Then, be happy!
  • bighoo93bighoo93 Member Posts: 24
    The dealers in the Northern Virginia area have zero incentive to negotiate. It doesn't matter that you can show them the profit they make if you pay them $1000 over invoice. The inventory is thin and the clientele is affluent, so they can counter with the fact that tomorrow someone else will come in and pay MSRP. And they are right. My advice (which is in line with others I have seen in this forum) is to cast a wide net. There are almost 40 dealerships within 60 miles of Northern VA. If you are willing to travel an hour, you have a much better chance of striking a good deal. My specific recommendations are O'Donnell Honda in Ellicott City, MD and Hagerstown Honda. Both had very responsive and extremely competitive price offerings through their internet sales team. But I am sure there are others. Just not near the beltway!
  • 330blast330blast Member Posts: 49
    Stevens Creek Honda, the last I would have expected to budge the price. I went in the look at different colors (they always have a large inventory), and for whatever reason, they did that night.

    Good luck.
  • bps007bps007 Member Posts: 6
    It took me about 3-5 days of emailing, but I secured a 2006 Touring Nav Res for $36000+govt fees. I had quotes ranging from 36500 to 38000. I did everything by email. First round was to about 30 dealers. Got about 10 responses. I think dealers are getting wise to this and the "old school" dealers try to contact you by phone. Insist on email. Those that get it realize that you're an informed buyer (i.e. you read these forums) and that they are going to have a quick sale at low margin. Once I got down to 3 dealers, I just started playing them off one another. End of the month is the best time to do this - about a week before the end of the month (if they do quotas on end of month schedule that is). Anyway, once I got down to 2 dealers, I started talking on the phone. By this point, I was down to about 36,300+doc fees. It became a bidding war that I finally had to stop at $36000.

    I hope this helps.
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Hagerstown is owned by Amish and they're very kind and less greedy than us regular heathens, read as good price. There is a dealer in southern PA that my dad got a great deal on a Touring, the name escapes me.
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Ody'owner,

    I asked each dealer for their best no kidding buy it now price and got a good one from Hennessy the first time. Others called me or responded with generic e-mails that looked automated and not much more. I was geniune and direct with each but not rude. I tried to counter pricing but basically, dealers know generally know their competition & limits and once they are beat, aren't likely to go lower. The internet manager I dealt with was surpised they gave me the price they did. Use trinkets as the deal clincher.

    Keep in mind, every dealer pays the same as any other, greed and overhead are the variables.

    There's lots of good advice here and someone posted they're getting a Touring $1,500 below what I paid but it's all about timing; as in finding the right vehicle or having dealers cooperatively swap inventory or inbound allocations, perhaps even to meet a sales goal at EOM. Some don't play nice with each other (FWB & Pensacola), others like Tameron in Birmingham have several locations to pull from.

    Happy Odyssey to you!
  • coolguy3coolguy3 Member Posts: 6
    Amazing deal - just got the VIN number for my new 2006 Odyssey EXL after paying a deposit of $500 over the weekend....took 30 quote requests from all dealers in 100 mile radius to find one as low as $27,950 which is technically below invoice (i believe invoice is 28,258) - i still can't believe it....but hey i got the VIN and i verified that it is indeed EX-L with the right color on Honda website. Still yet to finish the deal and get the car - hoping to have it in 10 days at most.

    This is a great time to look for deals - last 2 weeks in september when everybody is trying to get their volume in for 3rd quarter...i have been looking for a EXL since July and got a couple of 2005 quotes @ invoice but didn't jump on it...and i was almost starting to feel bad since most 2006 quotes were in 29000 range before i got surprised by this one...will repost once i really get the van...
  • obsessing3obsessing3 Member Posts: 2
    That's great advice! I have been worrying because after we called the dealership and said "If you can give us an EX for $27,000, we'll take it" – and they did and we did – we got an email from the same dealership the next day (responding to our email query sent before we called) saying their price was $27,100. Which made me think they would have gone lower. But ... where is that going to get me? Will try to follow your advice instead. :)
  • needaminivan3needaminivan3 Member Posts: 1
    So what should I aim for or be happy with, invoice, plus destination?
  • bighoo93bighoo93 Member Posts: 24
    Invoice on the 2006 Odyssey EX-L is 27,708. If you add freight of 550, then you get the 28,258. So it depends on whether your number includes freight, as well as other processing fees they may try to stick on you. Focus on the off-the-lot price.

    That said, who cares if it is below invoice or not? Unless there are some massive charge add-ons, getting 27,950 for an EX-L is an outstanding offer. Congratulations.
  • akhanakhan Member Posts: 23
    I recently posted about my purchase, but when I referred a friend for the same car with exactly the same extras installed the dealer was not willing to do business, this only after 3 days of buying mine?

    My friend had some very interesting conspiracy theories wrt this.

    why will the dealer sell me my car with 8miles on it for one price and the refuse the same deal to a referal?

    Did something happen during the first 8miles of my car, during other people's test drives that they hid from me ex, suspension damage due to rough driving? or had fixed in their shop and thats why they where willing to sell me mine for one price and then ask for more from my friend for exactly the same car? What is the law on such fraud? Can/Does it happen on new cars?

    cldrant if your are reading this, this is your thread see what others post in reply to this question
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,629
    Seems that the conspiracy theory stuff is getting you worked up.

    Remember, each deal is unique at that point in time. There are many reasons why a dealer might take a price one day, but not 3 days later, such as:

    - they had a bunch in stock when you got yours, but sold most/all before your friend showed up
    - it was month/period end, and they needed a sale to make a manufacturer bonus target
    - it was a slow/rainy/whatever day, and they really wanted to make a sale
    - you were a repeat customer, and got a special deal
    - different color?
    - gas prices went through the roof? Big flood of additional shoppers?

    These are all quick thoughts, but the key point is, supply and demand determines price, and S/D is a fluid concept, which certainly can change in a few days.

    Note, I am assuming these are both cash deals, no trade involved. If you had a trade, it is quite likely they showed you a better price on the new unit, but made it up on the trade.

    As to your other question, I do not believe they are legally obligated to disclose if they had to do some repairs for in transit damage (which I think is fairly common, but usually minor stuff). But, if they did a good enough job that you can't even tell, I doubt they would feel the need to lower the price to try and get rid of it. Not likely to meet the legal definition of "fraud"

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • desixpdesixp Member Posts: 6
    I got a response from Hagerstown Honda for a EX-L - RES 30,646 + tax, tags, freight. Is this a good price?
    Any input would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Vasu.
  • go4samgo4sam Member Posts: 5
    Can any body tell me how much are the taxes. from the discussions these are the best prices for 2006 models. Not sure if below are including the taxes.

    EX-L - 27,950 - 28,600
    EL-LR - 32,000

    Do we need to negotiate with dealers road price including taxes etc.. or do we talk Base price.

    Thanks
    Sam
  • swmobleyswmobley Member Posts: 6
    First I would like to thank everyone who has posted a message on this forum. I found it very helpful in my purchase.
    What I bought....
    2006 Odyssey EX Silver with Grey interior
    Price: 26979.68
    Dealer License Tax 53.96
    Title Tax: 819.86
    License Plate: 37.50
    Title: 10.00
    Processing Fee: 349.00
    TOTAL OUT THE DOOR: 28,250.00

    I believe that I got a fair deal. I probally could have got it a little lower but I don't think I did to bad.
  • coolguy3coolguy3 Member Posts: 6
    The $27,950 includes destination. All i'm paying in addition is $55 for docs and $10 for drive away plates since i'm buying it in a different state than where i live...i'll have to pay my taxes when i get new plates in wisconsin.....
  • buddyzunigabuddyzuniga Member Posts: 63
    33,700.00 out the door with sunroof visor, splash guards, nose mask, two free wireless head sets, two chrome Odyssey license plate frames, Odyseey key chain, first oil change will be free and a Chevron gas voucher for another free tank full of gas after the first one runs out ; ) Oh, and they gave me just under 20,000.00 for my 04' Ody EX-L RES Sand Stone which was already paid off, that had been rear ended and side swiped while parked infront of my home at 1:30 a.m by (you guessed it) a drunk driver. After it had spent over 3 months in the Honda collision center for complete rear suspension replacement on both the left and right sides, a new (yeah right) Honda rebuilt transmission, three new rims and tires, replaced drivers side rear corner panel, and fuel tank neck assembly replacement. Is this a descent deal??
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Bud,

    The most important thing is that you feel good about the deal more so than the actual numbers (coping tool called rationalizing, LOL). You could haggle further but if you're OK with this, go for it. What you paid or are about to pay may be slightly higher (a grand or so) than you could have negotiated on a purely cash deal but it sounds like you did great considering the problems you had with the '04 Ody that had ongoing problems. The trinkets like keychain, plates, oil change, and second tank of gas are great returns on investment for a dealer. They're low cost and contribute greatly to customer satisfaction in that you feel like you are getting something for nothing, I hope you understand you paid for them somehow.

    Check dealer trade-in values on this and other sites for a warm fuzzy on your '04 but toss out those values with a problem child trade. Somewhere there will be a post about an '04 picked up wholesale by an unsuspecting consumer, LOL. I'm sure it is a relief to not only not have worry any longer about '04 problems and satisfaction of driving the latest model. You can't put a price on that! Lemon out, peach in; good luck and congrats on your new Ody.
  • vsaxenavsaxena Member Posts: 211
    "I soon will be a soccer daddy and lose my "bimmer drive" title. Sigh....... "

    I am in the same boat. I have a Z4/525. The Z4 might go for the Ody. How long did you wait after your first child to get the minivan?
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