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Any pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Arul
I wonder if the female voice on the NAV is part of the DVD software itself or part of the NAV hardware program?
Local independent dealer is selling Canadian Odyessey's backed with 4year/60K mile warranty from Ultimate Warranty. It is a 2003 EXL for $24,500.
What is the forums opinion on puchasing a Canadian model. Does it hurt resale or will it cause problems vis-a-vis the warranty and the provider of service.
We would keep the vehicle at least 4 or 5 years. Please help!
You might want to check this out:
Same cars can cost oodles less in Canada
Back in January a friend of mine bought his through an importer, probably the same company you are looking at. US Honda dealers will not work on Canadian cars, so he'll have to take it to a 3rd party shop if he runs into problems. He also can't take the van to a Canadian dealer to have warranty work done since Honda of Canada will not work on any vehicles that are sold into the US. But he was able to buy the van for $2000 less than he could buy here.
He did have a couple problems getting it registered at the DOL. First had to have the van inspected by US Customs and spent a couple hours there to get the wrong documentation. The DOL rejected the paperwork from customs and he had to go back to get the correct document. But he did get the tabs after a couple trips.
I was about to do the same thing back in January, but looked at having one shipped in from Chicago after all the articles I saw on "Canadian" cars.
Since everyone on the west coast was at MSRP, we waited to look at the new Sienna. After checking it out we decided to go that way and was able to get a good deal since NW Toyota dealers are willing to deal.
Anyway, I'd probably shy away from going the Canadian route. So far no problems with my friend's Odyssey and he's very happy. I'm surprised you haven't found a deal yet though.
Steve, Host
You may want to check out some Milwaukee area Honda dealers. Although I was looking for an LX, not an EX, I was able to quickly and easily get $2,000 under MSRP quotes from Russ Darrow Honda, Schlossman's Honda, and Wilde Honda, which are all in Milwaukee.
Best price so far is $23,460 = tax and title. Doesn't seem great, but everyone else is worse. Qs:
1) What is the best price I can expect in S. Florida?
2) Where?
3) Buying services ant good - other suggestions?
Stay firm.
Odyssey price is going downhill fast.
You may want to contact these dealers in the last week of the month. They will be more flexible. Also, do all your research and know what price you are willing to accept.
Good Luck!
Total paid:
26,013 + 95 (service fee) + sales tax + license
Minus from price : cargo tray included for free
That is it. No other charges ect.
I just got a quote over the phone from Key Largo Honda (which delivers cars to Dade County, maybe Broward) with a 36mo/12K yearly miles for a Ody EX cloth with 569.73 due at inception and 362.73 (tax included) a month. BTW 569.73 includes the first payment and tax, tag and title.
Their inception fees are always 1st payment and tag.
They give you a straightforward price with no haggling.
I did use the Carrs internet quote. At the time Carrs did not have its internet special page up so I sent an email to them and said I had seen their quote of 26013 for an EXL. I asked them to quote me their current price on the EXL. I received a return email quoting me a "special price" of 26,013.
The Milwaukee dealership matched the Carrs quote. The Milwaukee dealership has a standard $95 service fee. I asked them to throw in the cargo bin (or whatever the container for the third seat well is called) which they did at no charge.
EX-L RES for $299.95. (incl tax, tag and title).
$4000 downpayment ....48 month(12K/year). They also paid out the last 3 months of my lease on my current vehicle..which is about $300 each month.
please reply.
Whats the residual value of your new 2003 EX-L RES-Thanks in advance
As for the loan, IMHO the bank doesn't owe you anything for approving your loan other than a competitive rate. That being said, I think the dealer should offer you something since you did them a favor by financing through their preferred lender. I presume they may even have earned a fee for referring you.
Bank owes you squat, but definitely get everything you can from the dealer. Don't count on the 1st oil change free bit, everyone gives that out. Maybe get 2 more oil changes plus,cargo tray, those nice metal key chains, and don't settle for the cheap rubber ones they gladly give you with the dealers info on it.
I'm not sure how your deal is structured, but you may want to "renew" your original loan or shop for a third, cheaper one (home morgage rates have gone down recently - maybe car loans have too?).
Then when the dealer balks because you are bringing your own loan to pay at delivery, that's the time to ask for some extras. From gleanings from car dealers around here, the deal isn't final (in most states anyway) until you actually take delivery.
So far all you've done is put extra money in the dealer's pocket without any consideration going to you by agreeing to a similar loan with the dealer's lender. I'm assuming that you agreed to a price and then talked about which loan to take out.
Of course this "hardball" position is easy for me to take, since I'm not having to mess around with your dealer, call the banks, risk losing that van, etc.
Steve, Host
Whatever you decide to do, I hope your van gets there pretty quick!
Steve, Host
Van. If you signed a bill of sale with a required delivery date over a week ago, then as I understand it, you should not be obligated by the contract- they haven't met their part of it within the listed time line, you should not be obligated to your part. But I'm not an attorney. I think you should contact a few other dealers, tell them your story, and see if they have a van on the lot they can sell to you for less than you agreed to on the one in transit.
When do they come out?
Will the mileage improve any?
We first went to four dealers in the area (some contacted by in-person visits, and some via internet quote requests) and asked for final, out the door prices. We asked for the final price to us including tax, title, registration, and all that.
OK, so far so good. We wrote down all the final prices on a page, a different price in each column: so four columns, with the dealer name on top and the final price below it.
Then we went back to the dealers with our car that we were trading in, and asked them for the best price they could give us on the trade. I had researched this value on Edmunds, NADA, and Kelly blue book sites so I had a pretty good range of what we should expect to get. For the record, we got about $1,000 less than what the average of those sites told me I could expect to get, but that was acceptable because all the dealers came in right about at the same place (plus or minus $500).
So then, back on our sheet of paper, underneath the out the door price from each dealer we wrote down the trade in value that we were quoted from each dealer. We subtracted the trade in from the final price and got the net number that we would have to pay to get the minivan. We went with the dealer who had the lowest net price (final price minus trade in value).
Along the way we did test drive the Ody and our other choice, the Sienna, too, and also my brother in law has an Ody so it wasn’t exactly an unknown entity. Plus all the info available on Edmunds and conversations with the dealers also helped educate us on the different options available. So we feel like we know what we got, and are happy with the decision.
In the end, the dealer we went with gave us a price for the 03 Ody that was $1,380 less than MSRP. This was for a new one they had in stock, and we drove it home that day. We still have to take it back on Friday, because there wasn’t enough time to install the backup beeping sensor, but that’s ok with us. We felt we were dealt with in an up front fashion, and most importantly for me, I was comfortable because I could use the payment estimator on Edmunds to give me an idea of what my monthly payment would be.
Anyway, Sorry for the long post, but I thought I would post our story in case it helps anybody else. I know I’ve learned a lot from the other posters here and just wanted to contribute a little something.
Thanks, and best of luck to you all - JK
Any why would you expect this?
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We still have trouble keeping them in stock and most are pre-sold before they arrive.
Maybe it's a regional thing?
Must be regional LOL
Where in MA did you buy? Been looking for an Ody but haven't explored it in the past month or so. New Sienna drives nice and has a better interior, but supply and demand jacks the price too high for me. I'll compromise for a proven performer at a lower price.
They remain in short supply, at least for US !
I always have my doubts when I hear stories like this. I mean...WHY would a dealer do this??
I suppose they could give it away for free too.
I wonder if there was a trade in that they under allowed on or something.
Plenty of discounting now, but 500.00 BELOW invoice??
Anything is possible...