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As for the waiting list, that a whole pile of cow dung. I've heard that too. Mine was that there was a 6 month waiting list, guess what, 2 months after I bought mine, the same dealer was giving the Ody's at my price. Wow, so it's like 1 year for us is 7 years to a dog, and 1 month to us is 3 months to a car salesman. Wow how time flies.
Stick with your guns, you'll get your price. Requires for you to be stern and understand that they aren't knocking on your door, YOU are knocking on theirs.
My question: They acted like they would be doing us a favor sending us the Certificate of Origin in 3 days. We paid with a cashier's check drawn on our credit union. Is it standard to put a hold of this length even on a cashier's check? We want to move ahead with plates, etc. since we're leaving next week on a long trip.
I don't understand the question about the hold on a cashiers check you are talking about.
Hope it all comes together for you.
robsdad
Thanks
Rian
I remember that guy. He was the one part of the buying experience at Carrs I did NOT enjoy... In addition to refusing to sell me the 7/100000/$0 warranty for the amount I had (in writing) from another dealer, he thought he was doing me a favor when he added a few extra days to the 10 day temporary license.
Robsdad is correct - the certificate of origin comes from Honda California - only AFTER the check clears. Bottom line, Carrs files for the certificate after they have their money. Seeing that this is done through their business office (a few days after clearing), not to mention that the US Mail is involved, then the Honda California group has to process the request as well. Mine did not show up for about sixteen days after the purchase... At which point the great state of Minnesota charged me a late fee for not getting my license tabs in a "timely" fashion.
Enjoy!
Wholigan
2004 Honda Accord EX-L Graphite Pearl
2007 Honda Civic EX - Atomic Blue
2013 Honda Civic LX - Crimson Pearl
What and where is the best pricing in the greater Pittsburgh area?
(1) Will the dealers negotiate on the '04's even though they are basically the same as an '03 model?
(2) Will we be able to buy one somewhere in the range of $500 to $1000 above invoice?
(3) Will the base prices go up for the '04's?
Thanks for any of your insights!!
(2) See the answer to (1) above.
(3) My guess is probably yes, but only by a few hundred dollars.
As the lease on our 2000 Acura TL was to expire in mid-August 2003, and our family had doubled in size since the start of the lease, we knew it was time to buy a minivan, and since I am a Honda person, it was clear that an Odyssey was in order.
We knew that we wanted leather, and also knew that there was no way in he-l that we were going to put a video entertainment system in our car (that’s what books and Punchbug are for). That narrowed it down to the EX-L or EX-L-NAVI, whereupon my gadget-loving nature took over and we settled on the EX-L-NAVI.
I started seriously looking in mid-June, and soon confirmed what others on this board had stated; namely, that NYC area dealers have yet to come to their senses with regard to Ody prices. I started to look further afield – Chicago, Ohio, and Houston.
I made a great deal with a saleswoman at Goodson North in Houston for a Sage EX-L-NAVI at invoice/destination ($27,808), but at the last minute, my wife decided that she didn’t like the color, and wanted Black instead. Since Goodson did not have the EX-L-NAVI in Black, and was unable to find one, I had to start over.
I finally made my deal over the July 4th weekend with Jacobs Twin in Chicago – a 2003 Ody EX-L-NAVI in Black for $27,977, or $169 over invoice/destination. The saleswoman was excellent, and no garbage fees were tacked on. The only additional charges were $10 for the interstate transit tag, $15 in Cook County tax, and $52.50 for document preparation and express mailing, for a total of $28,054. Naturally, this amount does not include sales tax or state registration fees, since those are specific to one’s place of residence, and are thus not useful for the sake of comparison.
I hired an auto transport company to pickup the Ody at the dealership, and deliver it to my door for $800. The Ody was in perfect condition upon arrival, with a few minor glitches that Jacobs Twin readily resolved. First, the dealer had applied pinstripes and an adhesive dealer sticker to the vehicle, despite my written instructions to the contrary. Second, both the cargo and side nets were missing. Jacobs Twin reimbursed me $100 for the removal of the pinstripes and sticker, and sent the nets out by overnight courier at their own expense.
Considering the rarity of EX-L-NAVI models, compounded by scarcity of Odys in Black (only available since January 2003 AFAIK), I think I got a pretty good deal, even when shipping costs from Chicago to NYC were factored in. My total for the EX-L-NAVI and its transport to my home was $28,854, or $2,006 below MSRP. I strongly doubt that any dealer in the NYC area would have matched this deal in early July, or even now in mid-August. It is even more unlikely that any NYC dealer would have done so on a Black EX-L-NAVI. And certainly, no NYC area dealer would have done so without some serious haggling, which I was able to avoid entirely.
Good luck to all of you still shopping for an Ody, and feel free to ask me for specifics via email.
Perhaps my home address will be listed now on the NAV--that would be cool:-)
So perhaps the 2004 models will have the updated DVD NAV:-)
But even with our outdated NAV, you can still get directions to most places. But the 8.5GB version will be better.
So will Honda merely need to replace the DVD disk, or will they also need to replace the deck itself under the passenger seat? I would assume the latter, since I was unaware of the ability of the present version of the DVD player to handle 8.5 GB disks. If so, is this a simple unplug and remove / install and plugin operation, or is it more complex?
Also, has anyone bought the rearview camera and/or self-installed same? Comments on the camera and/or process? My wife's unease with backing and parallel parking the Ody (by far the biggest vehicle she has ever driven) may bring her around to supporting my natural desire to acquire the rearview cam as an additional cool gadget to play with <g>.
You do not need to do anything to the NAV DVD player itself, thank God!
As for the rear view camera, I was told by my car sales person that it would cost about $1,000 after all is said and done with parts, labor, tax.
That's a total rip-off since on other vehicles, the cost of the camera is like $200 coming from factory.
So I said "Forget the camera!"
The dealer ship is O Donnell Honda, Ellicott City. I mailed the internet department through Cars dot com. The response was slow that they took 2 days to reply. But, the offer was very good. The following was what they offered..
The price: $24,603+Tags+ Tile. They added the destination charge of $460 for total offer price of $25,063+ tags. I think this is a great offer as compared to other posts that I read here for DC area.
If you need the contact details of the salesman, please do email me & I will be very glad to share the information. The salesman also promised to honor the price for anyone referred. This may be a perfect deal for people looking to buy Odyssey now.
I am really thankful for the great posts here that helped me to get a good deal on this great van. This van is really amazing. I owned an accord before & there is no difference in the way this van handles itself when compared to Accord. My family really loves this van.
$26,871 EX-L RES
$55.00 Document fee
$21.75 Texas State inspection fee
$62.34 Texas State Vehicle Inventory tax
$27,010 out the door price
Not sure if I got taken on the document fee and Texas vehicle inventory tax. Regardless got a great deal. If you, want details let me know.
By the way - which manufacturing site supplies Dallas with Ody's? Is it the one in AL?
mrfinagle Jul 25, 2003 8:53am
Steve, Host
Dealers in Phx didn't want to deal. I emailed dealers in Houston and found that they were around invoice. I bought mine from Russel & Smith
Honda for $200 below invoice. The internet department was great to deal with. They picked me up at airport, checked out van, did paper work, on the road in 2 hours after I landed. $300
round trip and I saved over $1000 with that and the price of the van. The best part was driving the van. The more I drove it the more I fell in love with it. Driving thru Texas was even enjoyable.
Did you solicit pricing westward towards Ca. or north to Las Vegas?
I'd say you did OK?!?!?
Wholigan
2004 Honda Accord EX-L Graphite Pearl
2007 Honda Civic EX - Atomic Blue
2013 Honda Civic LX - Crimson Pearl
Thanks
sstaatz- I initially contacted them through their website. It took 1-2 days for them to replay. I got a price on Tuesday and flew down on Friday. Give me your email and I will send you more info.
to put down deposit they had already sold
the one I wanted. I contacted McDavid in Dallas
and got the same deal but the plane ticket would
have cost another $100. I feel I got a great
deal and was treated great by Russel and Smith.
I may have to make another trip to Texas when
Honda comes out with their pickup.
FYI: I already own one
Steve, Host
(my email is in my profile where it's safe, LOL)
Sorry if I am the guilty party. Just trying to be helpful.
For general info, marking your email "public" in your profile isn't foolproof by any means, but it will likely attract less unwanted mail there than posting it here in the discussion.
And if you don't know, clicking on the member's name by the message title will take you to their profile.
Steve, Host
Also, does anyone have any advice for a 60 month loan with the best rate? The lowest I have found is 4.49%. Thanks.
"#4456 of 4553 So california PRICE by sepy Jul 24, 2003 (4:02 pm)
Got 2 quotes for a Silver 2003 Odyssey EX-L for $25860.00 including destination of $460... you need to pay the tax +lic... if you need more info let me know, I'll give you the sales person info.... "
I am interested in buying an EX-L, can you email me the sales person info.
Also what is the best price for an EX-L in So. California these days?
Thanks.
Any help is appreciated.
I am in Richmond. We looked for a 2003 ODY EX in Richmond, W'Burg, Va Beach. All prices were quite high (near sticker) compared to prices reported in this board. We bought an EX-L in Cincy from Honda East. I am picking it up next weekend. Cost was $350 over invoice.
The dealer was willing to deal more on the EX and EX-L models and was willing to go $500-$800 over invoice, respectively, but was more resistant to dealing on the RES and NAVI stating the whole supply / demand thing. So, $1,100 over invoice was the best I could get. Not great but fair enough and still $1,800 under MSRP which was unthinkable just a year ago... We have been very happy with it and the kids are in heaven so it was a good buy if not a great one. Any other Indy buyers with dealer stories / purchase prices similar to mine?
jpinsonjr - You got what appears to be the best deal of them all. I have NEVER heard of any dealer blowing out ODYSSEYS, especial those with the RES at invoice much less $500 below. Were there any mitigating circumstances, such as they had not sold a vehicle, any vehicle, for a month or more? Whatever the case, Good Job!
So my question to you is what is the price of the car, and are they forcing any options on you?