2011 Nissan Quest
Nissan has released new images. Compared to the new Odyssey and the current Sienna, what do you think?
http://www.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1046909_2011-nissan-quest-new-images-- l-a-show-debut-confirmed
http://www.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1046909_2011-nissan-quest-new-images-- l-a-show-debut-confirmed
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Chrysler pioneered the hidden door track and the two sliding doors in their 1996 minivan redesign. We are still driving one of those 15 years later. I can't understand why minivan designers today don't duplicate that design. It looks so much nicer.
The design of the 2011 Honda Oddysey is another example of ugly. IMHO.
The Odyssey looks good until the back third of the van. I agree if they use they "hide" the tracks, it would look better.
Unfortunately, the Quest could be the best looking minivan around and it won't sell because Nissan totally messed up the current generation Quest. No one is going to run out and buy one of these minivans with so many consumer complaints about the current model.
And, I agree with what was said about the Sienna: in pictures it looks REALLY good. But, in person, the design does NOT come off well, at all. Ditto for the interior. Overall, it's just homely and awkward-looking.
I showed the pics of the new Quest to my professed "minivan-hater" wife, and she had to admit that the new Quest looks "hot." HOT! I couldn't believe my ears! A woman who loves Audi and Maseratti styling and who HATES minivans actually called the Quest "hot"? I think this might bode well for Nissan.
The rear looks very edgy --- nice looking. It is un-minivan like.
I still drive my MPV - and like the Dodge Caravan, the tracks are hidden.
But this is not a deal breaker for me.
I am more concerned about the quality.
My MPV has some issues ... but nothing like the current generation of the Nissan Quest.
Any news on engine displacement, EPA estimates, etc.
How about more interior pics?
2011 is just about the right time for us to trade in our old van. The Quest and Sienna are tops on the list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezxS1ZZ8Tag&feature=related
very nice looking mini-van! go Nissan!
Even the $40,000+ Touring Elite model comes without factory installed roof rails.
After paying $30,000 for the EX, you have to pay an additional $300 to get the roof rails installed. This is adding insult to injury.
The 2011 Odyssey has been priced to maximize Honda's profit.
Every vehicle sold in the world is priced to maximize the manufacturers profit. Simple economics.
Priced to sell. If they were not priced right, how do you explain the fact that most are sold before they arrive(preorder)?
Show me the competition and explain their value proposition. Odyssey hands down is the winner.
I do love that they make the rear lights to look like the current gen Maxima. If anything, the 3/4 profile makes the van look really tall compared to its competitors and suggests that the interior is spacious. I really hope that the interior dimensions match that suggestion.
Can't wait to do my comparison of the three Japanese minivans.
:-)
btw, the last generation ones were made in Canton Mississippi.
Steve, visiting host
What is the current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 2011 nissan quest on a 36 month and 48 month lease with 12k/yr of miles?
thank you.. :shades:
The DVD package does make a difference however in more ways than the obvious (which were not known by our salesman until the one we bought arrived): the DVD package also adds a much nicer 7" screen and control wheel to the dash (similar to an Volvo, or upscale Murano). It also adds a 12v plug that is supposed to work in connection with the AV plugs in the rear of the center console for game systems.
I was a little disappointed because our 08 Pathfinder had a nice 7" screen without any entertainment package, so this was the only real downgrade we made. It still has the back-up camera and everything, but it's not quite as nice and all the controls and info, like tire pressure and trip info is now located in the gauge area. It also takes away the nice control wheel, although it still has the USB port and you can fully control your iPod from the dash or steering wheel; including selecting playlists, etc.
I ended up taking a couple 2GB thumb drives, dumping kids music on one, my wife's music on another, labeling them and just leaving them in the car. Now, instead of worrying about her phone, all she's gotta do it pop in a thumb drive and it starts playing whatever is on it...pretty much like a 21st century CD. I'm a technology guy, and Nissan always seems to have the latest stuff (without the premium package).
The car it self is awesome. It drives wonderfully and is very quiet. We had been used to our truck-framed Pathfinder which road like a truck (rigid and bulky). This drives like a dream and the steering assist at lower speeds works very nicely. The ride in the back is smooth as well, as opposed to the 3rd row of a Pathfinder which would really throw you around.
The SL comes with leather standard and the seats are very plush and comfortable. I'm fairly big at 6'2"/215 and the driver's chair is very comfortable and cozy for the longer rides. Obviously, the perks of the keyless key are very convenient. The push-to-lock/unlock and push-to-start mean you pretty much never take the key out of your pocket or purse, although for me it's easily accessible enough to use it to open doors and the back hatch (in a purse it's probably not worth it).
The cargo area seems very roomy. I haven't folded down the center seats yet but the 3rd row folds down with the push of a button and isn't hard to pull back up manually. The "trunk"/well compartment is very spacious, enough to fit an umbrella stroller or a cart of groceries. My biggest grip is the covers over the storage compartment. I wouldn't say they're cheap or flimsy, they'll hold as much weight as you would probably put on them, but the design is unthoughtful. They're attached with little straps that snap on, and there's no real system to keep them in the "up" position, so as you load grocery bags with on hand, you're lifting the lid with another. There is a clip on the under side that maybe might be used to slide the rear seatbelt through to hold them up, but it barely works because the hinge area is basically held together by a single 3inch strap. It's hard to explain, but if you see one, you'll know what I'm saying. I think a sturdier hinge combined with some sort of strap or even velcro could make the lids a non-issue for minimal cost. I see this being something that is fixed in later models.
The backs seats are also roomy as opposed to the Pathfinder where the fron passenger seat had to be almost completely forward to fit a baby carrier. I've had people sit behind me with my seat 90% back and have gotten no complaints. The 3rd row is almost roomier than the 2nd, although not quite as comfortable, as expected.
Overall we love it. It took about 3 weeks to get our floor mats because they were on back order but they're nice as well...they fit in the car like a puzzle. They're designed to tuck under the molding, with a velcro like bottom to keep them in place and cover the majority of the floor space. There are tons of cup holders (there are actually 8 within reaching distance of the front seats). Storage is good too: the center row has it's own console and storage, and the lack of the DVD system adds an extra drawer to the bottom of the front console.
Overall we are very pleased. I don't mind being a "van-dad", I could really care less. Most cross-overs look like old station wagons nowadays anyway, but mine has much more convenient sliding doors and it's the window design is similar to a Ford Flex. Most people don't realize it's a van at first, until they see the doors slide.
The quality of the Quest's interior materials & design felt and looked far superior to the Sienna's. The $43,800 Sienna's leather seat stitching (below the front seat headrests in the rear) were crooked and wavy--very visible to rear seat occupants. Not very good quality control there....The front seats on the Quest were almost LaZBoy-like in comfort compared to the hard, shallow uncomfortable front seats in the Sienna. The front door elbow rests on the Sienna had a thin layer of cushioning on cheapish vinyl, while the Quest's had much more padding and a thicker, plusher feel to it--very Infiniti-ish. The soft pad dash on the Quest contrasted greatly to the Sienna's hard plastic dash pieces, which sounded cheap when tapped with the fingernail.
The Sienna's electronic auto-folding rear seats--although appearing novel--partially crushed a cardboard oil change box I put in the rear bay where the seats fold into. Although the mechanism stopped, it didn't reverse like auto windows do to avoid pinching fingers. What if that was a baby stuck down there? I really like the fact that the Quest's permanent storage coves in back don't require you to move stuff out of the way to fold the seats down. Even the tall roof sills allowed for easier ingress/egress than both the Sienna and Odyssey. Lastly, the one-touch open/close sliding doors were fantastic!!!! The Sienna requires you tug and pull the handle for the door to auto-slide.
I was not a fan of previous-generation US-made Quests. But now with this new generation Quest--the first to be manufactured in Japan (Fukuoka)--the quality difference is so obvious. The design & materials felt and looked better than even Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Audi--especially the lower-end models.
Other car show observations: Even the Hyundai Sonata's interior was much nicer in design and quality than the C & E-Class Benz and BMW 3 series. The Canadian-made VW Routan exuded Chrysler Caravan cheap everywhere. The hard plastic non-variable-adjustable rear armrests were hard and pathetic. There were even stickers on the driver's door and in the engine bay prominently displaying 'Chrysler Group'. Very cheap and not very comfortable inside too...and overpriced. The Honda Odyssey appeared to be better in quality than the Sienna, but fell short in design, in my own perspective. Great job Nissan!
Nissan was even considering installing a 9-speed CVT in the mighty GT-R in its early engineering stages. I guess that's how much Nissan believes in this type of transmission.
Nissan seems to be the company with the highest degree of dedication to the CVT and its apparent benefits in efficiency.
I do agree with your general thought on Nissan's investment in CVT.
Check out these links about the Nissan's Extroid CVTs and the JDM V35 Nissan Skyline 350 GT-8 (aka Infiniti G35), which was equipped with Nissan's 8-speed Extroid CVT, back in 2002:
http://www.nissan-global.com/PDF/tcvt_e.pdf
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/19462/nissan_skyline_gt8.htm- l
Hope this helps!
Any clues? Should I take it back to the dealer? There is no cooling off period as I bought it in California....
I have a 2006 Nissan Quest 3.5 SE that was purchased new in Jan. of 06. The original Nissan battery gave out this month (March 2011) and I purchased a new 800cc battery (Exide brand) from Strauss Auto here in New York City. The battery was installed, but the indicator light was still coming on, so the mechanics tested the electrical system and found I needed a new alternator. So that was installed along with the new battery. This was last week.
Even with the new battery and alternator though, the battery indicator light was still coming on (and the brake light too). This would happen after starting the van up in the morning. About 20 to 30 minutes later those lights would go out. I figured maybe something was going on with the indicators being off. Then last Friday (3/23) about 30 minutes into driving in the morning, I had lost acceleration. The battery and brake indicators were still on, but the engine was still running – I just had no acceleration.
After pulling over (using the van’s inertia) I let the engine stay on. After about 15 minutes the battery and brake lights went off and I had acceleration again. I went to a nearby garage where they tested the NEW battery, and they said it was a weak charge – basically saying this supposedly “new” battery was bad.
After putting in their own battery, the charge was stronger. I took the Strauss battery back to the store where they tested it (out of the vehicle) and claimed it was a good battery. I put the Strauss/Exide battery back in and again; this time no battery or brake light comes on.
Only after sitting for a few hours or overnight do those lights come on again. I then took it to another Strauss store – this one with a garage (the first Strauss store had none) – where they tested the battery and claimed it was good. So now I’m wondering what’s going on? Is it the battery or something else?
Fast forward to today where on my way home, the van stalls again; engine still running, but no acceleration. I keep the engine on. I call my insurance for roadside assistance. While waiting I try to accelerate – the engine would rev-up, but no acceleration. When the tow truck arrived, the mechanic had me put it in reverse. THEN it decides to accelerate. The difference is though that the “Service Engine Soon” light now comes on. The mechanic told me that it’s either the battery, or there could be an electrical short somewhere that’s draining the battery while everything is supposedly “off” (I do make sure everything is indeed off – lights, heat, radio – EVERYTHING)
I’m going to take the vehicle to the Nissan dealership and have them look at it (at more expense because the dealership in Manhattan is VERY expensive for service), but I want to get to the bottom of this. In the meantime, if anyone here has any idea as to what’s going on with my van, let me know. Is it the battery that’s defective, or is there a power short somewhere in the electrical system? Or is it something else?
but we can hear from recent purchase....
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2011-02-03-test-drive-nissan-- quest_N.htm
second test was done in arizona republic news paper...same trouble...cannot go more than 13-15mpg in city and highway
thanks
hp
I averaged about 30 MPH as most of the driving was on the highway at about 80 MPH and I finished just over 17 MPG. Obviously not what was advertised, but that's with cheap gas, stuff on the roof and a full load.
The first 500-1000 miles I definitely did not get great mileage, but I've put about 2500 on my Quest now and it's doing much better.
I bought my Quest SL with DVD player for invoice over the weekend. So far I have gotten 19.5 MPG mixed driving. I drove the Odyssey, but prefered the nissan. I love the suv style flop down seats, and dont miss the little bit of space I give up. What sealed the deal was the one touch power doors.
If you need more proof of goof mpg check below
http://www.insideline.com/toyota/sienna/2011/2011-minivan-comparison-test.html
So far, everything else is great with this car expect Gas Mileage is about 16-17 City.
I purchased my van in Chesapeake, VA for $34,800 out the door with all taxes/tags/etc paid for. The price was $1800 or so BELOW invoice. I cannot help but feel I got a great deal on this van and I am very happy with it so far. We have about 1000 miles on it so far. One thing I notice is this van seems to have a much tighter turn radius than I remember on my 2004 model. I cant help but think that this might be the result of Japanese manufacturing and the need for such maneuverability on narrow Japanese roads. This is modeled after the El Grand so it would make sense. Having lived in Japan for almost 9+ yrs I really appreciate the quality Nissan seems to have put into this vehicle. I do not understand why so few people have purchased this van. It is NOT the 2004-2009 model and people should seriously go and take a look at it. I looked at the Honda and the Sienna and they both left me wanting more. The interior of the Quest is far superior to anything Honda or Toyota has to offer.
The true reliability will show over time but I am confident that Nissan has put out a much more refined product that is built to last. As for gas mileage, I averaged almost 23MPG on a trip to Canada. This is at least as good as my 2004 if not better. I have limited city driving to compare it fairly but it seemed like I had around 17MPG in lots of stop and go before we left. If you are on the fence about getting one of these I think you owe it to yourself to check this one out.
Might be a silly solution, but perhaps there is a "sliding door on/off" switch that you turned OFF by mistake?
Got between 21.5 and 23 MPG. Mostly 22. My 2004 SL used to get 24.5mpg. I think the new transmission is not a good for mileage (?)
The Nav is good, but when I pull off the highway there were a lot of towns (not small towns) that had no info on roads (Emporia NC for example), on the plus side I did find that it was very helpful in finding places to eat much quicker then my old garmin, and adding as a waypoint was very easy.
Wierd thing. Once I got to my hotel in Fl it would play an "intro music" each day, unless I set another destination. Never did that for any other place I go in NJ.
So...I'm assuming you're in the new 2011 Quest with CVT?
It would be nice to see more 2011 samples; it appears as though the Sienna owners "brag" about high 20's.
Coming off lease of Ford Flex Limited, another seriously underrated and fantastic vehicle btw.
Hit up AMNX.ZAG.com and came back with $38.880.00 for LE with double moonroof. Looking for White/pearl with Gray interior. Not too many white LE in OC.
When I do a TMV for a LE Dual Moonroof I get $39,438 (central TX).
The TMV shows an invoice of $39,841...so what you're showing is about $1k under invoice...if true, seems pretty good to me.
My 2002 Odyssey gets 19-25 mpg (imperial gallons) in the city and 30-34 and the odd time 37 mfg on the highway. On a trip 2 wks ago it got 34 from Guelph, ON to Alpena, MI return. It currently has 280mkms on it.
2002 Honda Odyssey EX
Previously owned-
1992 Ford Taurus L 4 door 300 cu in long-stroke
1982 Ford E150 Customized by Triple-E travel Van 351 cu ins V8
1979 Mercury Zephyr 6 cylinder 4-door sedan
1972 Datsun 510 4-door automatic
1967 Plymount Valiant 2-door sedan large-v6
1965 Morris 1100
1963 Austin 850 mini
I would think the CVT is not set to 2-8 speeds as it is a variable transmission.
For eons the DAF in Holland have been using CVTs. A vehcile in Germany called the Ro80 used it as well as using a rotory engine.
http://www.ritzsite.demon.nl/DAF/DAF_cars_p1.htm