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According to a salesperson, there will be a 6% increase for the 2002... but personally, iI think it is very unlikely, because if they start raising prices with the economy going south, and fierce competition; they would be the loosers.
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Problems:
-- Rear window washer nozzle appears to be aimed too low; washer fluid sprays into the window/roof line and then spills onto back window.
Pluses:
-- Car still very tight; no squeaks or rattles to report.
--A/C is the coldest I've ever felt; very helpful during recent heat wave; doesn't sap too much power.
I thought the car might "loosen up" a little bit, but it continues to handle very well and is still fun to toss into corners.
I honestly can't find any real faults with the GT yet. Though I had my initial doubts about long-term reliability, the car so far shows no signs that it will fall apart. It is a very pleasant and capable car for my daily 50-mile round trip commute. Its also a handy car to drive on those weekend errands. The GT is everything I thought it would be: a practical, stylish car that is also fun to drive.
Bill
Bill
Does anyone know if the price will go up on them?...<<
>According to a salesperson, there will be a 6% increase for the 2002... but personally, iI think
> it is very unlikely, because if they start raising prices with the economy going south, and
> fierce competition; they would be the loosers.
Is this 6% for all Hyundai's or just the GT? I think the case can easily be made that the GT is underpriced considering all of the stuff that is included standard (the NY Times article said it was a major bargain). If it's $2000 less than the competition right now, then adding another $500 or so to the price may not make a lot of difference in terms of sales.
Bill
I will say that I have found several pieces of inaccurate information about the GT specs at every auto site (including Edmunds) Some of the GT info seems to have been "borrowed" from information on the Elantra GLS sedan. Anyone else notice this?
(Don't worry, its an Aggie thing)
Well, after searching for about 2 months, I found a Cobalt Blue GT with a 5 speed stick and option package 2/7 (ABS package). I didn't feel like haggling on the price, and got it for $14,960 + TTL.
I put about 300 miles on it getting it back home, was getting over 28 MPG, and LOVE THE CAR!!!
The first GT in our city had the "Comfort Suspension" info on the window sticker. It performed as advertised. The one I bought 2 months later did not, and feels a bit tighter.
Getting the actual GT suspension was a pleasant surprise, saving me the trouble of upgrading. I never even asked about it. My salesman just offered the info unsolicited, during delivery, after I signed the papers.
I wish I would have been able to drive different GTs with the different suspensions, in hind sight.
However, I actually like the comfort suspension now. I miss the road feedback of our Protege ES, but the GT sure is nicer on long drives with its comfort suspension.
I actually looked at one the other day with the comfort suspension. I just didn't know it even came on the GT. Thanks for the info. I will most likely opt for the stiffer suspension. Any other information will be helpful, as I am planning on buying one Spring 2002.
5,000 miles on the GT and trouble free driving continues.
I am going to shop around for one with sunroof. But when people post that they paid 15K for a GT auto with sunroof I really do not know why I am not able to get that price? Is there any dealer in NY/NJ area who can match those kind of prices on GT?
I love that car and I want it.
Thanks in advance.
Hope this helps. Good luck with your buying efforts. You won't be disappointed with the GT. It's really a neat car.
Thanks for the feedback. I will try them. Since the GTs have good demand now, I think the dealers are not flexible with pricing. But I will try the NJ dealer you mentioned.
The price you got is great. I am trying through priceline.com also.
Maybe we can emulate the folks on the Protege board and try to set up some sort of picnic for the East Coast E-GT owners, maybe at a central location, like Virginia?? The Protege guys had an interesting name for it, but can't remember what it was.
Just a thought...
Lo unico malo fue que no pude negociar mucho el precio y los monos de Rogers Hyundai en Chicago me incluyeron un tratamiento a la pintura y a la piel de los interiores que me parecio caro(como $1,200) y con una tasa de interes no muy baja por cierto(11%) En fin era mi primera compra de auto y no tengo mucho historial crediticio pero estoy feliz con mi 'rojito' que viene con el paquete que incluye el quemacocos. Aun no he visto otro en la Ciudad de los Vientos
Oigan, por cierto, me da la impresion que son ustedes puros chicos... y donde estan las chicas?
Sigan escribiendo!
(Wish I knew Spanish so I could read the prior post!)
Lately when I fill up the car, and I've already got 3200 miles on it, the gas gage doesn't read FULL. Usually it is about 1/8 below the FULL mark. And the trip computer (miles to empty) reads about 290. When I first got the car, my MTE read about 365 when filled up. Now, as I drive for a period of days, the gauge actually goes up as does the MTE on the trip computer.
Eventually I guess it "evens out" and the gage and MTE starts going down again.
I know I'm not imagining it, and I know I'm completely filling up the car because the last time I had to put in 13.8 gallons. I have tried re-setting the trip computer and and MPG, but it doesn't make a difference. Has anyone else had this weird experience or is my GT haunted?
After I got the GT back from the dealer, I managed to put 14.5 gallons in it! I thought that was capacity. Not sure how much the filler neck holds but I thought I had at least a gallon in the tank left. If I remember right, letting it run down to empty is not smart, as you can suck up sediment into the fuel injectors. Overfilling is not recommended either.
Good Luck!
"The commentaries of this column are good reading as it related to my research about the serious decision of my first car and served to me enough. Every time I am convinced that it was the best decision, I am happy with my Elantra GT! The bad part was that I could not negotiate much the price and the monkeys of Rogers Hyundai in Chicago included a processing fee to me to the painting and the skin of the interiors that expensive me parecio (like $1,200) and with an interest rate not very low, by the way (11%). In my first purchase of car I did not have much historial credit but I am happy with my 'rojito' that comes with the package that includes the 'quemacocos'. I have not even seen another one in the Windy City.
Still a little difficult to understand, but it does clarify a bit.
After 7000 miles, I'm more impressed with the car than ever. As soon as I get my Neon paid down, I'm dumping it for a GT. The biggest assurance for me is that with a Hyundai, your warranty lasts longer than your financing.
A Hyundai convert-
Jason
During the late 80's and early 90's Hyundai subbed out there motor and transmission to, I believe, Mitsubishi. The reason Hyundai has made a substantial turn-around is because they are now building there own engine and transmission. I think they knew they had to make some changes before they got left in the dust, like Daewoo. I see more and more Elantras on the road each day, and my girlfriends is excellent at 12,000 miles. Besides you have one of the best warranties out there.
Good Luck
The only thing on both Elantra threads (especially the GLS thread) is wheel vibration in some cars. People who experience this are beginning to get it rectified but it can be troublesome. I'd test drive the car you actually were purchasing. I picked a car with (slight) hail damage rather than one with a slight wheel skip. Wouldn't have done it without Edmunds.
All in all this is a wonderful, wonderful car. I'm glad I went with it.
The only bad part was not been able to negotiate more on the price. The guys at Rogers Hyundai Chicago included an expensive painting and leather protection treatment to my car (some $1,200) and the interest rate on my deal was not exactly low (11%).
Anyways, it was my first auto-buying experience in this Country and I didn't have a long stablished credit here but I'am happy with my 'rojito' ('little red').
I got the cardinal red with the package that includes the sunroof. I have not seen another one in the Windy City just yet
By the way, it seems you are all boys.... where are the girls?
Keep writing!
I understood most of your first post, but thanks for reposting in English! Actually, 11% through the dealer is not great, but not too bad for someone with little credit. My brother bought an Escort when he had little or no credit, and Ford Motor financing hit him for something like 14.5%!!! The good news is that once you have a good payment history on this car (6 mos. or so) you can usually refinance at 7 or 8% from a credit union.
Anyway, congrats on your new GT! The first one I've seen driving aroung here was Cardinal Red, and I thought it looked great!
-Jason
thank's!
I was a bit concerned about damage to the clear coat from the dentless paint removal, so the repainting was a real plus, even though I didn't expect it.
St. Charles Hyundai (metro St. Louis) provided service which was above and beyond the call of duty. It's nice to have pleasant suprises.
I bought my Cardinal Red GT from Thomas Hyundai, in Calumet City (south suburbs). I have bought 6 cars from the Thomas "family" over the years (2 Pontiacs, 1 GMC, 1 Nissan, 1 Hyundai) and I can tell you that they do a really good job. I have never left the dealer dissatisfied with any part of the process. And they are one of the highest volume dealers in the Midwest, so they should be able to get what you want.
To be completely forthright, I kave developed a good relationship over the years with the sales manager, now general manager, so I may be biased. But I would definitely check them out.
It's kind of amusing. Even after 10 years of loyalty, the finance guy still tries to offer me the extended warranty. He knows I won't buy it, but as long as you realize it's his job to ask, you won't feel so bad. I would say that if your daughter goes in with all of the information (dealer cost, ability to get financed, etc.) she's less likely to get swindled anywhere.
As a side note, when I went in to the dealer to find out about ordering the Sentra I wanted, I saw the red GT on the floor and fell in love ( as I say, " By the way, when did you get that in?").
I bought it the next day (the first one he sold). I had driven a 4-door GLS, but it just didn't have any excitement. He had one other GT at the time (silver with automatic and sunroof, no ABS) which I'm sure is gone by now. But If anyone can find you one they can. You can probably get out of there with less than $ 1,000 over invoice. You can always use the argument that once the 2002's come out, his 2001.5 is a relic.
Let me know how things turn out. If you want more specific dealer details (names, etc.) let me know.
So far, I have owned the car about 3.5 weeks and have about 2,600 miles on it. So far, it has been a great car. My mileage has gradually increased as the miles build, even though I am now driving it a little harder than I used to. I just filled the tank and got 34 mpg, mostly highway mileage, but my speed probably averaged 80-85 most of the time.
Some people have complained a bit about the shifter on the 5-speed, but I think it is fine. The clutch does engage fairly high on the pedal (most complaints focus on this), so I simply shift with the clutch half-way depressed - it engages fine this way. Overall, the shift action is pretty smooth - smoother than the shifter on my wife's 1999 Protege ES.
As others have stated, Hyundai's quality is greatly improved over previous year models. I'd get a GT while you can, as I'll bet the 2002 model prices will likely be higher than MSRP on many dealer lots when these cars become popular (will happen soon).
Good luck and don't pay for any dealer added preps (rust inhibitor and other worthless dealer add-ons).
My concern with buying the GT is the fees that every dealer seems to be adding onto the price ($125 Metallic paint fee, and admin fees of $389). And I am concerned that the Hyundai's never have window stickers....so how am I supposed to know if $20495 CDN really is the MSRP for the GT that I want. Did you get a chance to ask about the price and fees where you are?
Compensate- In Canada the GT's are already named 2002 so the price won't go up until the 2003's are out.
Mirax
About Dealer fees, I am in BC and was quoted the exact same price as you, $20,495 as the MSRP. That can be worked but I havn't tried yet!!! But for dealer fees, I have not heard about a paint fee so I would not pay that one. My dealer is talking about an Admin fee as well but it is $150. So here is the list of fees that was given to me:
MSRP: 20,495
air tax: 100:gov imposed
Admin fee: 150: will try and get out of this one.
tire/battery: 20: gov imposed
Hope that helps!!! Keep me posted as I will give more info when I get some.....
Other things not to pay for:
Obviously anything you don't want,window etching, paint protection and especially preparation fees. I used to work for Saturn and it took me about fifteen - thirty minutes to fully prep a car. To charge $350 for this is insane.
Don't be intimidated by salesmen, they want the sale more than you want the car. Go in, sit for as long as necessary, (preferably at the end of the month and/or a rainy day) and you'll know by frustration and facial expressions when his bottom line has arrived.
Good Luck.
It's actually amiga
I think your daugther and grandson will find the GT a very convenient car and they will just love it!
As for the dealers just make sure she visits them with all the information she can and make sure you give her all the tips you can as well.
Somehow I felt that when it cames to girls buying cars the sales people (usually men) sometimes make their own assumptions and try to take advantage.
But again this GT is a great option for a variety of lifestyles.
Good luck!
Anyways....since becoming an Edmunds reader I think I am much better prepared to venture into the dealership.
Dellwell- I am going to test drive a GT 5-Spd again tonight at a dealership near my house. I will let you know my impressions. (It's always better to test drive on your own stomping grouds...then you really get a feel for the car)
Mirax
As I said, they want the sale more than anything. That is what they are there for. Don't forget, if a salesman sells enough cars in a month, he may get a bonus from the dealership and doesn't necessarily even have to make a profit on your sale. They just need to move a "unit".
Beat them up, and don't feel bad, they'll make it up on the next one.
I went into my local dealer today and took a look around. The place was swarming with salespeople (salesmen, actually) but I wasn't approached in the 15 min I was on the lot or in the 2-car sized showroom. Up close, the GTs look great.
Plus, at around $10k cheaper than the Saab 9-3 (the only other real 4-dr 'hatchback' on sale in America, IMO), the price can't be beat. But on that note...
Next to the official Hyundai sticker was the dealer's own. In addition to the $150 pinstripe fee (I swear there wasn't a car on the lot w/o a pinstripe, Sonatas included), there was a $1400 "market value adjustment". I mean, really. With the addition of the stripe fee, a fully loaded (pkg 7/2) automatic has an asking price of over $18k! Who do these guys think they're fooling?
BTW, the "market value adjustment" on Santa Fes is $2500.