Hyundai Elantra 5-door

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  • txaggietxaggie Member Posts: 5
    Well, I'm chasing MPGMAN for the highest mileage. After 7 days, I've put on over 1300 miles.

    The car is excellent. The clutch and gears are wonderful. I've missed 5th a couple of times, but mostly because I'm still used to my old 5 speed.
    The power is VERY lacking up to about 2500 RPM. After that point, you can really feel the power kick in. While I'm still taking it easy on the car, I've passed on 2 lane highways easily without having to drop to 4th gear.

    I've mostly done highway driving since getting my GT, but I'm up to just under 31 MPG. I'm hoping that will go up another 4-5 after the break in.

    The car is _solid_. I'm having to get used to shutting the door hard enough. Everything feels solid and nice, not "cheap".
    While the ride is definitely stiff (I've got the sport tuned suspension), it's not uncomfortable. Each corner I take builds my appreciation of the cars handling abilities.

    The ONLY problem with buying this car is the resale value. Unless Hyundai makes a big turn-around in popularity starting w/ the 2002 model year, it will be difficult to get decent money back if/when selling your GT. I plan on keeping my GT for a long time, but would feel better if its depreciation wasn't so bad.

    My dealings with the dealer were mixed. He gave me an acceptable "haggle free" price right up front ($14960+TTL for a 5-speed w/ sunroof + ABS/Traction Control). Unfortunately, it took over 3 hours for me to get out of the dealership when I went to sign papers, even though the price was already set. They were missing the floor mats which were supposed to come with the car (they had to order the mats and ship them to me). I also purchased the window etching (for an insurance discount), but had to actually push them to etch the darned windows! They told me "it's been registered, and that's what counts". NUTS! So, while I got a good price, I can not recommend Wiesner in Conroe, TX. They just weren't "together".
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    Speaking of crazy mark-ups on the GTs, I went to my dealer's web site to see what inventory had changed. All of their GTs had been listed at the true MSRP when I had bought mine about a month ago. Now, I saw a new GT listed with an MSRP of around $18,500, and this is a base model with automatic - no moonroof or ABS package.

    I wonder if the GT has now become a highly sought-after car?
  • mdrivermdriver Member Posts: 385
    Anybody paying MSRP for this car will realize that although it is good value up front, the resale is no better than any other Hyundai, meaning bad. So this will end up being far more costly to own (if not kept for life) than other hatches, even the VW GTI, which has a very high resale. Low resale can be offset by heavy discounting upfront. But when there is no discounting and resale is still low, watch out.
  • pearlbluesoulpearlbluesoul Member Posts: 30
    I just came across this review today. The reviewer seems to have nothing but praise for this car. Check it out at:

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/roadtest/02elantra_gt.htm

    This coincides with the start of Hyundai's marketing push for the GT here in Canada; this past week we've started seeing the first Canadian TV commercials for it (one in English, the other in French).
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    I wish American cars had two trim levels, one without leather. Or, as an option, both GT and GLS sedans and hatches.
  • guyindasky1guyindasky1 Member Posts: 11
    Had been looking at the GT, Mazda Protege and a S2 ZX3 Focus...like the GT but am quite put off by the pricing...Firstly they force you to pay for Calif. emissions ($100) even if you aren't in the Golden State...Secondly in spite of what you see in the pricing on Edmunds (invoice of $14,589) the price should reflect the additional amount of $407 that is tacked on as an "advertising charge"...In contrast the Focus I'm considering has no advertising charge at all added...not sure about the Protege...Anyhoo, this has probably stricken the GT from list...I don't care much for this type of pricing, which is too bad because I do like the car.
  • cjaccettacjaccetta Member Posts: 236
    ...when I bought my GT in June. However, I did have to pay the $100 Califronia Emissions charge (I live in NJ). It was shown on the sticker. You're right about Edmund's TMV being off...figure to add $100 to that number to account for the countrywide California Emissions.

    The Protege was our second choice but we went with the GT instead because we liked the cargo room (this was a little before the Pro5 began showing up). The ZX3 is interesting, but we wanted four doors. Would have waited and given the ZX5 a shot but I saw one at the NY Auto Show in April and it looked like it was put together with Elmer's Glue by Mrs. Crenshaw's fourth grade art class. Ugh. We have one Ford already...I think that's enough.

    Let us know if you change your mind about the GT. It's really a great car. Have you tried other dealers in your area?
  • guyindasky1guyindasky1 Member Posts: 11
    I've checked with all the dealers in AZ and they all charge it.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    If anyone wants to take a GT on an extended test drive, like a day or two, I saw a GT at Hertz at the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport yesterday (picking up my GLS rental). This means they are probably available in other cities also. Seems odd for a model that justifies a $1400 markup in the eyes of some dealers. If they think can get that much for the cars, why dump them at Hertz? I still can't get over dealers asking $18-18.5k for a GT. For that, you could get the ultimate in utility vehicles: a minivan (e.g. 2001 Caravan SE with V6). It's especially ridiculous given that it's for a 2001 model, not a 2002, with uncertain resale value and no long-term reliability track record. And that you can get its brother the GLS for $10-12k.
  • guyindasky1guyindasky1 Member Posts: 11
    I've checked with all the dealers in AZ and they all charge it.
  • th003gth003g Member Posts: 149
    hi... i've been reading along and finally decided to post. Me and my father had been looking around for a utility capable vehicle, we looked at the Protege5 but the dealer was uninterested in reducing the price at all. So that was out of teh question since it was small to begin with. My father had been interested in a Civic but I got him to look at a Sentra SE. the day we were supposed to work out a deal for my trade i took him to Hyundai, in the showroom was a blue GT, very nice....
    after weighing the pro's and con's we decided to get the GT, I insisted on the blue while he wanted pewter. got car for 13,900 including 1k for trade. Love it, roomy and looks almost exactly like a saab nine-three hatch in profile...
    Highly recommend this car..over sentra and Protege5
  • mpgmanmpgman Member Posts: 723
    Pushing 6,000 miles and all is well. Still can't get over the solid ride and all of the content for the price. Had a few friends ride in the car and they felt the same way. No problems to report at this stage. On my list of future improvements however are:

    -audible warning for emergency brake on
    -better coat hook clip for hanging a suit
    -rear hatch handle, though nice on the inside, might make more sense on the outside.

    As you can see, this is nit-picking. Had a silver Pro-5 pull up along side me at a stoplight in Jersey over the weekend. Compared notes for a few secs and concurred these were both winners.
  • jaserbjaserb Member Posts: 820
    guyindasky1-
    I don't know where you are in AZ, but if you're willing to drive a little farther, University Hyundai here in Provo has a ton of GTs, and all are actually at sticker - no bogus markups. They didn't even have the Cal. emissions charge. I bought my Santa Fe from them and they were really good to work with - I got it for quite a bit below sticker. Last time I checked they had a good selection, too - blue, red, pewter and black, 5-spd and Auto, some with pkg. 2/7. I don't think anyone in UT knows about the GT yet, so you could probably get them to move quite a bit on price.

    -Jason
  • cmulqueencmulqueen Member Posts: 14
    I just paid $15,242 + Virginia tax (3%) and DMV charges (about $60) for a black GT Automatic with package 6 (moonroof). I tried to get to the TMV price but they wouldn't budge on a $400 advertising fee. I got mats and mudguards thrown in for "free." Do you all think this was a decent deal?
  • estoesto Member Posts: 136
    The advertising charges are not on the window sticker, they're on the invoice. And they're different amounts for dealers in different cities - makes it hard to compare deals.

    Erik
  • suet5suet5 Member Posts: 2
    Hi, everyone! I'm new to this group, and am interested in getting a GT. I've got a '90 geo prizm hatchback and can't imagine living without one now. I wish someone was making an inexensive true station wagon that was dependable and had good mileage, but I think the GT is closest. I haven't been to the dealer yet, but am trying to find information on the options packages on the internet. Sadly the Hyundai website doesn't allow you to "build your own" GT.I see that ABS is an option but nowhere do I find mention of traction control as an option. Is it part of package 7? Also, not to start a fuss,but I'm curious to know if anyone has heard more about the airbag sensors?
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Member Posts: 2,228
    How's availability around everyone else? The only Hyundai dealer within 200 miles of my city only has 1 GT and its red with an auto and comfort suspension. The car has been there since June so maybe they don't think they can sell them here and therefore haven't ordered anymore. I find this odd as this is a town of 2 major colleges so low-priced cars are what sells best here. It sure sucks though because that would make finding one I like difficult at best. Guess I would have to travel a ways to find better stock.
  • mpgmanmpgman Member Posts: 723
    Traction control, ABS, and a moonroof are all part of a package which was #2 (GT has 2 packages....#1 is moonroof only) for me and appears to be #7 for others (continuation of the pacakage sequence numbers for the GLS with package #6 being the GT moonroof only). You cannot get ABS without traction control and vice versa.
  • teamlakegroveteamlakegrove Member Posts: 9
    suet5,
    On the left side toward the middle of the page, there's an option to "build your own". After you choose your state, click on the GT. You can view the packages and colors and get an MSRP. You can do the same with Edmunds, and it will also give you the Invoice.
  • sr_srikanthsr_srikanth Member Posts: 41
    I am a happy man and I am getting my blue GT auto with pkg 6 today. I am getting it for 15244 + TTL. I think it is a very decent price for NY. I did my research and searched a lot of dealers. I was dealing with Healey hyundai, Mt.kisco. My sales man was Tony Finelly and he was very good to work with. He was straight forward and was nice to deal with. But poor guy had to send me to one of their other branch since he did not get the blue with the sunroof I wanted. So for any one in NY/NJ area I recommend him for a straight and fair deal.

    I go by the reviews and after a lot of recommendations from this board I was convinced to buy elantra GT. I am actually breaking the bubble with my office colleagues since I will be the first one to buy a Korean car. I really feel Hyundai has come a long way and I am a person who always judge a product with price/performance.

    I thank everyone on this board who has been providing great helpful information. I will keep updating about my new baby time to time.

    Regards.
  • nuanceglsnuancegls Member Posts: 16
    I just bought my Sonata and it's a out of this world car... (2 weeks ago)

    nuance
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    >> I wish someone was making an inexensive true station wagon that was dependable and had good mileage...<<

    There is one out there (maybe two): Saturn SL2, which starts under $15k (no-haggle pricing) and has good reliability and mpg (27/38 for 5-spd); and Suzuki Esteem, which starts around $14k list with a little lower mpg. Suzukis are dependable also. But if I were you, I'd go for the GT, even if it's not a true wagon. It will be no more money than the Saturn, especially after you add some options to the Saturn, and a lot more fun to drive.
  • jenlynspinjenlynspin Member Posts: 1
    Hi All,

    I just purchased a 5-spd. GT in Houston, TX (Charlie Thomas Hyundai) pkg 6 (moonroof), (with window tinting, mud-flaps, and mats thrown in) for $14,395. I am *very* happy with my purchase. Test-drove and fell in love with VW Golf, but was turned-off by the price and long list of problems that seem to be popping up on it. This feels very similar to the Golf behind the wheel, has much more sex appeal, and MUCH more reasonable price... All feels very solid, well-built, and high-quality. Absolutely could NOT be happier!! BTW, "Kurt" at Charlie Thomas was no BS, very easy to work with...
  • mike91326mike91326 Member Posts: 251
    I was told by my dealer that the Elantra GLS will have a "Sport Wagon" for 2002. I don't know what he means by "sport", but he did say the 2002 GLS wagon would be out in October.
  • mdrivermdriver Member Posts: 385
    Agree that the GT is very good value when compared to the Golf, but safety is not on the same level. No head air bags or standard ABS on GT. Also, VW has managed to create a very upscale image for itself. Elantra is still perceived as a cheap car, although I think it is excellent. Justified or not, the Golf's resale is very high, the Elantra's is very low.
  • jaserbjaserb Member Posts: 820
    kbb.com has pricing information listed on the 2002 Elantras, including the GT. According to their site, prices won't change for 2002, but who knows if that's accurate or not. Anyway, they have 3 new colors listed that interest me -

    UC Blue, Carbon (GT only) (Available After 10/01)
    RB Red, Chianti (Available After 10/01)
    VX Red, Rally (GT only) (Available After 10/01)

    It looks like Cardinal Red, Cranberry and Cobalt blue are going away. Does anyone know what these new colors look like? I checked out the Hyundai USA web site and their international site but haven't seen any samples. I'd be interested in seeing the blue, especially. If anyone has any information, let me know!

    -Jason
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    Congrats to jenlynspin, sr_srikanth, cmulqueen! I think you made a great purchase!

    I have had my Pewter 5-speed for a little over a month now. I have now logged about 3200 miles on it and have really had no major complaints, besides a clicking I get sometimes from the front left wheel area when taking sharp turns - dealer still couldn't figure it out and said he didn;t hear it when he test drove it (IF he actually test drove it).

    Other than that, the car has been great! And I actually like the "comfort suspension" that I got with mine - it's nice on long cruises!
  • sr_srikanthsr_srikanth Member Posts: 41
    I noticed a cool thing. It calculates the avg. mpg and also tells you how much more miles the car can go with the gas. I am amazed how much hyundai has packed in to this car.

    I drove it to work today. Every one here was attracted by the hatch back style and also the blue color. I think I made a great purchase.
  • mpgmanmpgman Member Posts: 723
    I've also found it to be rather accurate with the overall mpgs per tank full at fill-up time. I leave it set on the mpg feature to make sure I try to drive with a light foot. Nothing though beats the 38 mpgs I was getting on the highway when the car was brand new....that lasted until I realized they had left 50 psi in the tires!
  • cjaccettacjaccetta Member Posts: 236
    The wife and I are loading up our GT tomorrow for a long highway trip to Canada and Vermont. Over the course of seven days we'll be driving from NJ to Montreal, Quebec City, Burlington, VT and back to NJ again. This is my first opportunity to test the car on an extended freeway trip so I'll be sure to post any and all experiences when we return. If you live in Canada or the Northeast and you see a pewter GT with Jersey plates barrelling down your highways, honk your horn!

    After seven hours in the car I'll be thanking the Hyundai marketing person who decided the CD player should be standard! Suggested CDs for long trips: Imperial Teen "What is Not to Love?"; Lilys "Better Can't make Your Life Better"; Dandy Warhols "13 Tales of Urban Bohemia".

    Happy Motoring!
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    Have fun!

    Interesting musical tastes, by the way.
  • cjaccettacjaccetta Member Posts: 236
    There is a nice review of the Elantra GT at www.nctd.com. Look under the 2002 reviews of subcompact and compact cars.

    There is also a review of the Protege5.
  • darkwater71darkwater71 Member Posts: 8
    I just took a test drive in a GT w/ automatic trans. and was pretty impressed. The craftsmanship was substantially better than my previous experience with Hyundai - a 1994 Accent I rented for a few weeks in height of Albuquerque's summer.

    The interior seemed well laid-out, and the leather, while not as nice as some cars I've been in, didn't seem cheap.

    I had a couple of concerns, however. The test drive route only spent about 1 mi. on a freeway, so by about the time that I was up to speed at 75, I had to prepare to exit. While acceleration up the onramp was adequate judged on its own, it didn't compare to similar drives I took in a WRX Wagon and a Jetta VR6 earlier in the day. My real concern is that the automatic transmission seemed to be hunting around for the best gear to be in once I let up off the gas at about 70 mph to work my way through traffic. By the time that I had merged into traffic, I had to stay behind a slow (68 mph) car to make the next exit. So, I didn't really get an opportunity to test how well it operated at a constant speed, something that I'll try to remedy on my next test drive. Also, this was happening at just under 7,000 ft elevation. I'll be making monthly, 800 mile round trips through the Rockies (and along side them), nearly all of it posted at 75 mph. Has anyone else noticed this sort of performance out of an automatic operating at altitude?

    My second concern deals with the brakes. I pseudo-panic stopped at an intersection and wound up a few feet beyond the far line of the crosswalk, when I was expecting to be able to let up and coast to the stop line. The brakes didn't seem to engage that much until I really pressed down on the pedal. I'm sure that I could get used to this, but I'm looking for some reassurance that the brakes on the GT are up for pairing w/ an automatic. I'm sure that my driving a WRX and Jetta, both with fast-acting brakes, made the difference all that much more noticeable.

    All in all, the GT seems like a great little car, especially considering the price. As far as I'm concerned, it's still in the running with cars much more expensive.
  • mdrivermdriver Member Posts: 385
    It's pointless to compare the Jetta VR6 and Subaru WRX to the Elantra GT. The GT is $10,000 less than those cars.

    I've driven the Elanta GLS with auto through hilly areas and was very impressed with the tran's ability to hold a lower gear. Maybe you should consider a manual if you don't like autos. But don't expect to rocket up the Rockies anyway. This is a $15k car, not a $50k car.
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    I can vouch for the 5-speed's effectiveness. Just this morning, I was behind a person on the Interstate who was driving 65 in a 70 mph zone. I dropped it into third gear and floored it, running it up to about 5500 rpm before shifting into 5th (I skip 4th at speeds this high). At that point, I was driving about 90 mph, and it only took a few seconds to get there.

    Test drive a 5-speed (if that is an option for you) and judge for yourself.

    Good luck!
  • sr_srikanthsr_srikanth Member Posts: 41
    Hi All,
    I have out 250 miles on my blue GT auto pkg 6. I love this car so far. Alas I just discovered my sunroof does not work any more. Fortunately it is in closed position.

    I may not be able to take it to the dealer until day after tomorrow. Any feedback on this. I still like the car very much. Does it show hyundai quality or does it happen in other cars too?

    Regards.
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    I have almost 3K on my Elantra GLS and so far, I'm completely satisfied.

    Statistically the Elantra isn't going to be a Corolla. On the other hand it's in the same general range (JD Power) as the Civic. Think Civics don't have problems? Look at the Civic postings under maintenance and repair.

    I was looking for a 5 door hatchback but had to buy early when my 87 Nova bit the big one. It was between an Elantra and a Focus SX3. No 5 speed GTs were in stock when I was forced to buy and the SX5 isn't out yet. I chose the Elantra because postings to these threads indicated that it had better quality than the Focus. I'm very happy that I made that choice, even though the Focus is probably a better car on the skid pad.
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Member Posts: 1,339
    I would check the fuse for the power sunroof if you are pushing the button and are getting no response at all. If you hear the sunroof motor running, you've got a problem for the dealer to fix - either the drive cables or sunroof gearbox have malfunctioned.
  • sr_srikanthsr_srikanth Member Posts: 41
    Hi All,

    Thanks for the feedback. I think the fuse has blown up becuase all i hear is a click sound when I press the buttons. I will still take it to the dealer since I took the car only last week. Will update on this.

    Reg. the car, I think it is a great car for that money. I almost bought a sonata last year but since I did not get that 0.9 APR from hyundai I skipped it. Now since I just wanted a commuter car I was thinking of buying the elantra and then they came up with GT and that was choice right away. I hope this is not a majow problem and I hoping to put lotof miles on this new baby.

    Regards.
  • mpgmanmpgman Member Posts: 723
    I see where the 02 prices are out for the GTs but all I hear is that the cars won't be here until after the new year. Anyone know why Hyundai didn't get 02 classification for this car the way Mazda did for the Pro-5? Seems to me they came out the same time. If the 02s are virtually unchanged, which they appear to be except for the possible introduction of beige leather in addition to the gray, it seems to me that they all should be 02s. Anything to help resale in the event you need it!

    Also sat in a new 02 Sonata LX. This one will be a hot seller. Loaded it came to 20,500 list.

    6,100 miles on the GT and all is well.
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    I thought anything introduced after January 1, 2001 could be called an '02. Can't figure out why Hyundai did that. Sort of like Volkswagen. When they brought out this generation of Golf they had two different cars with the same model year.

    Speaking of '02's. Look at the postings under Kia (especially the Sephia). You read that all cars (sedan and hatch) are going to be called the Spectra, that the Elantra platform is going to replace both cars (I'd read this, but not until the next platform), that squared off (like an Optima) sedans have been seen driving around, etc. I've never read any of this in any official site and when I put 2002 Spectra into Google, I got quotes on the existing car.

    IMHO having a second dealer source for this platform would be a good thing, although I'm not sure whether I want Hyundai and Kia to become like Dodge and Chrysler/Plymouth, i.e. the same cars with slightly different trim throughout the entire product range.
  • compensatecompensate Member Posts: 212
    I'll bet there will actually be some minor changes between the 2001 and the 2002 GT.

    Note that the 2002 GT will have the sportier, "GT suspension." Many (not all) of the 2001 GTs were equipped with the "comfort suspension" that is similar to that of the Elantra GLS sedan. I hear that the GT suspension is firmer and more responsive. I'm not sure if there will be an option between the two, but my guess is that the earlier 2001 GTs came with the comfort suspension because it was easily borrowed from the existing 2001 GLS sedan and that the 2002 GTs will likely ALL have the true GT suspension. This may be the reason that Hyundai went with the 2001 designation for their first-generation GT. Of course, this is mostly speculation on my part.

    I'll bet there will be some other minor changes as well, but probably not much difference overall.
  • hung0820hung0820 Member Posts: 426
    Here is the real reason why next year model have to introduce early....1. Automobile Show 2. For those dealers that out-sell their car so they need new cars 3. Consumer Requested 4. Introduce; so people don't look for other manufacture cars 5. Let people have more choice to choose

    ***Nearly every company do the same. However, some manufactures do afraid of when they introduce the redesign model then it is hard for them to sell the current/older model. So the best reason to solve the problem better is that which dealers out-sell the number of the car then they will get the new redesign model quicker (this is also occur on none-redesign model as well)***
  • txaggietxaggie Member Posts: 5
    I didn't see many comments on this, so I'll throw in what I know.

    Traction Control comes with the ABS option package (2/7). There is also a disable button on the dashboard (just to the left of the hazard lights button). The disable resets whenever the car is turned off.

    I have not had much of an opportunity to test the Traction Control yet, but according to the manual it is a simple application of the brakes when it senses the wheels spinning.
  • juan_vjuan_v Member Posts: 5
    I'm waiting for the GT to be introduced in PR on November, but the IIHS safety rating (POOR) worries me, I understand that the problem is with air bags excessive deployment delay. Have Hyundai made any comments as to when they are going to replace the sensors or whatever the problem is with the air bags.
  • cjaccettacjaccetta Member Posts: 236
    We just returned from a seven-day, 1217-mile road trip in our Elantra GT. We drove from NYC to Montreal to Quebec City to Burlington, VT, and back again to NYC. The GT ran flawlessly and we averaged 31.3 mpg for the whole trip, about 80% highway and 20% urban driving. Luggage for two people only used up about 45% of the available cargo area.

    My observations about the car:

    -- very quiet at highway speed, unless there are crosswinds, then you can hear whistling around the A-pillars.
    -- the driver's seat is the most comfortable I've ever sat in for a car in this price range. 6-hour stints behind the wheel were no sweat.
    -- the A/C doesn't sap much power on highway trips and cools the car VERY effectively.
    -- the space between the front seats makes it easy to grab stuff like maps, bags, etc. off the back seats while you drive. Cupholders and storage spaces were great.

    Gripes:
    -- the turn signal relay is too loud
    -- my fuel guage now only reads 5/6 full even when the tank has just been topped off. If I leave the electricity on when I fill up, this isn't as much of a problem.
    -- dark interior heats up fast on sunny days.

    We got a lot of stares driving o Canada's Route 40 and Route 20. People there seemed interested in the GT (Hyundai is running a great French/English GT "boogie" ad on TSN in Canada). The GT also had a nice size for the narrow streets in Old Quebec City, too.

    The favored car in urban Canada seems to be the Toyota Echo, but I saw many Hyundai, Toyota and Suzuki vehicles while there.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    I used to think the Elantra has a loud turn signal relay until I drove a Corolla rental this week. It has a soft turn signal relay, so soft that I could barely hear it, even with windows closed, and in fact left it on a few times long after a turn (when for some reason it didn't auto-cancel). The problem is mangified by the fact that the signal light was blocked by the steering wheel as I had it positioned. So maybe the louder relay in the Elantra isn't so bad after all. At least it fits well with the 90-decibel warning chime. :]
  • uryourworduryourword Member Posts: 12
    We bought our GT on June 15th (10 weeks ago), and have had no problems yet. Plan to change the oil for the first time tomorrow. Would anyone recommend going with synthetic like MobilOne? My only complaint is that the gas gauge never reads full, and as a result, my MPG reads an average of 25. I have been putting off taking it to the dealer because: 1.I hated every minute of dealing with them when I purchased. 2.I am afraid they will screw something up. 3.I just don't want to part with this car, even for a day! We even have plans to store it this winter, since I have an 88 Audi that I can use for a winter car. This will certainly help resale value down the road. "Never seen winter" always sounds sweet to used car buyers. Good luck all!
  • mattwamattwa Member Posts: 16
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    I was waiting for one when I was forced to buy the GLS (no stick GT's were in stock). Think on the whole that the GT is the better looking car, like the Saab-esque styling, etc. However, I think they got the tail lights wrong. The second set next to the license plate is overly busy and the outside lights slant the wrong way. A reworked sedan light would have been more attractive IMO. This is a bit like the restyle on the Saturn when they slanted the wrap around of the tail lights a few years ago. Sort of fights with the other lines in the car.
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