Buick Rainier, Chevy TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy

60hzpush

Well, I've recommended that but Isuzu and the dealer are convinced that its not the tires. The longer it takes for them to fix the problem, the better chance I have of getting a new vehicle..

lawrencew1

Well it's been real cold here in the NJ area. New problem - Besides the moans and groans when you crank it over, I'm getting electrical feedback through the speakers when you turn the key at temps under 30 degrees. Anybody experiencing the same?

hammen2

"The longer it takes them to fix the problem, the better chance I have of getting a new vehicle.."

 

Believe you me, I completely understand where you are coming from (had to go that route with my 2004 GTO, which GM eventually ended up replacing after 35 days in the shop in 2 1/2 months of ownership). Of course, it took 54 days for GM to process the paperwork to get my new car (dealership had the replacment car dealer-traded within 6 days)... *sigh*

 

If you've had lots of other problems with your vehicle, I'd push for a replacement. Make sure you look into the lemon laws for your state before you even mention those two words to the dealership...

 

--Robert

spiff72

Well, I investigated further, and it seems that ALL of the gauges make noise as they move (the speedo is difficult to tell though - since it usually moves only when the tach is moving too)...

 

I will get them to fix it next time I bring it in for service.

 

Thanks all!

spiff72

Quick question:

 

Will the factory warranty cover things like clunks from the suspension (if it is a bad shock or strut), and will it cover warped brake rotors? My brake pedal has been pulsing under my foot since the first year I had the car.

 

I looked in my manual, and I don't see exclusions for rotors or suspension parts.

 

Thanks again,

Spiff72

2k_impala_ls

As soon as we get a decent day here in upstate NY I will try to take some pictures. It took me about 8 hours to do the complete job but it was done right.

2k_impala_ls

If the 4x4 light is not light on the dash, your 4x4 will not work.

I had the same problem a few months ago. The switch was not communicating with the 4x4 module.

They had to replace the module and some other parts. They told me if it was out of warranty, it would have cost over $400.

2k_impala_ls

I drive less than 7500 miles a year and plan on getting the zero deductable 60 month/ 40k or 50k MajorGard warranty in july when my 3/36 expires. I figure I will be covered for 5 more years and that will make the TB 8 years old. If I can get 5 more years worry free with no repair bills for less than $1000 (200 a year), that would be great. I got 180,000 miles out of my 1991 s-10 4x4 Blazer and the TB is 1000% better.

 

the cheapest price I found is

http://www.gmoutlet.com/quote/emailserver/majorguard/05mg3.htm

ficuss

I don't know about the clunks, but my chev. dealer replaced 3 out of 4 brake rotors for free for the same reason you are giving, pulsing brakes. I had to pay for new pads. The rotors had heavy pitting due to rust. Brakes are new to G.M. they are still trying to get it right.

spiff72

Thanks for the reply...

 

Mind if I ask what the pads cost you? And why did they only replace 3 of the rotors? Was one of them still good?? And finally, how old was the TB when they did it (and mileage)?

 

Thanks in advance. I am preparing my case for when I bring it in and they tell me nothing is wrong :-) Or that rotors are NOT covered because they are a wear/tear part.

corrinas30

Hello all,

This is my first time posting here. I went on a search to try to find some help with some problems I am having with my Trailblazer EXT LT.

I bought it 6 months ago. I traded in my 02'

Trailblazer LT for this one because I wanted the room. My LT only had one issue and that was a transmission mount fell off shortly after I bought it. I bought it in 2002. This EXT LT has been nothing but problems for me. First it was the rear air conditioning/heating wasn't working. Then I had problems with the rear hatch wiper and one power seat wouldn't move. The last thing I had it to the dealership for was a sound that would only happen occasionally. It was a creaking sound that came from the front end. It would happen when I would come to a stop. When I told the service department about it they looked at me as if I was some paranoid blond. They kept it for 3 days and said that they could only duplicate the noise once and that I needed to bring it back when the noise was happening more often. SO that little issue is still going on. This last one started yesterday. When I put it in drive or reverse, or just sit with it running in park, or I am driving and come to a stop, my TB will vibrate severly. So much so that my steering wheel and front end is effected. Does anyone know what this could be?

Any suggestions would help. When I called my dealership and spoke to the service department I was told that they sure hoped it made the noise when I brought it in. They were very sarcastic with me and I don't think they are taking me seriously any more. Now that I read how many troubles 02' TB's can have, I know I am not a paranoid blond!

 

Thanks,

Corrina

stever

If you are being treated poorly at the dealer, drop the owner a note about it and copy Chevy. Or just call Chevy and complain. That should help encourage the service department to treat you more professionally.

 

Steve, Host

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PLEASE PASS ON ALL INFO CONCERNING THE SURGING AND ALL OTHER PROBLEMS YOU HAVE WITH YOUR ENVOY. I AM EXPERIENCING A LOUD COMPRESSOR THAT CAUSES A SURGE WHEN IT KICKS IN AS WELL AS A 6 DISC BOSE RADIO THAT SUDDENLY STOPPED PLAYING. THE RADIO CAN BE HEARD VIA THE REAR HEADPHONES BY NOT THROUGH THE SPEAKERS. THE DEALER CLAIMS THAT BOTH ARE INTERNAL PROBLEMS. I AM AT 40,008 MILES AND MY WARRANTY ENDED AT 36,000. WE HAD THE COLDEST DAY SINCE I OWNED THE VEHICLE AND THE BATTERY COMPLETELY DIED. I CONTACTED THE GMC SERVICE REP AND GOT THE "WE CALL YOU BACK AFTER SOME RESEARCH".

bobed2121

Good information thank you. Luckly I picked up on an extended that will pay for itself now. Remember the good old days when switching into 4x4 meant going outside the vehicle and locking the hubs in place?? Might have been a pain but there were no "modules" one would ever have to worry about that for sure

ficuss

My TB LTZ is an 02. The rotors (3) were replaced Sept of 04. I had a little over 25,000 miles at the time. The 4th rotor was apparently still good at the time. The brake pads and labor came to $370.00. Considering dealer rates for labor and higher price parts, $350.00 isn't to bad. The rotors were specifically coded as Warranty Parts Markup GM.

 

Good luck

spiff72

Thanks again for the reply.

 

That's more expensive that I would have thought it would be for just pads and labor. I made an appointment for the brakes and a bunch of other stuff - I might just say forget the rotors - I can probably do it myself cheaper. I just thought the free rotors would save me money. I just figure that the dealer will give me a hard time too and say that the rotors are wear parts. I guess it depends on the dealer.

 

If you don't mind, about how much did they charge for just the parts (pads)?

 

Thanks,

Jeff

01_hoe

The GSP 9700 will tell if it is also a bad wheel. Sometimes there is hidden problem to a tire or wheel. I had a wheel and a tire replaced (not mounted together) and my vibration problems were solved. This was on aftermarket tires and wheels. The GSP will completely rule in or out a tire or wheel problem.

01_hoe

$370 does seem high for just pads and labor.

malibu99

Hello everyone

 

This might seem like a stupid question but if anyone knows the answer please respond.

 

Next week I am having aftermarket foglights installed on my 2002 LS. I decided that the best area to mount them without having to cut holes would be one on each side of the license plate where the air dam is. I noticed that on each side where I want to mount them there is a circular path looking thing that is about the size of a dime. I am thinking that they are plastic rivets or something holding the plastic bumper to the metal part but I am not sure, I was affraid those were air bag sensors or something. Does anyone know what these are or where the air bag sensors are located for this truck? I dont want to install the lights there and have the heat cause issues. Any ideas would be appreciated.

 

happy Friday!

 

            ----------------------------

                  * plate here *

                  * *

            ------**************--------

                L1 | | L2

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L1 and L2 are the areas where the lights are going to go and where I see those black circular rivets.

 

Sorry taht I cant word it better but maybe someone knows what I am talking about. I see that when this gets posted the diagram gets messed up, but you get the idea.

blink3

I am about to move and went to the U-haul site and it says my Envoy will not work on their trailer (not the tow dolly the trailer). I got the measurements of the trailer and unless they are measuring wrong, it will fit. I do not have the EXT. Anyone done this???

 

Thanks!

60hzpush

Thanks for the reply. i agree that the tires should have had more scrutiny. I read that there was a service bulletin that on 02TBlazers there was this same vibration and GM could not figure out what it was. They ended up changing the springs out to fix this problem. My vehicle goes in next week for a whole new set of springs, Will let you know.

ficuss

parts for 4 brake pad kits plus whatever treatment they apply to back of pads was $170.00 plus tax.

 I know the pads are cheaper at various parts stores, but brakes are one of many car repairs I don't do myself.

 I think the reason the labor was a little high is the time it took to do the brakes twice. The first time they resurfaced the rotors and replaced the pads. the brakes still pulsed. They then replaced the rotors.

 I think free rotors more than outweighed the higher price pads.

spiff72

Wow.

 

Just for grins I called a local dealer to get pricing for pad and rotors (front and rear).

 

They offer 2 brands - GM and Durastop. If the GM rotors are the OEM, they are not worth it based on the life I got from mine. I still think I might see if they can be turned down and just get new pads. I am pretty sure they would warp again, though.

 

GM:

Rotors

   Front: $153 (each)

   Rear: $137 (each)

 

Pads

   Front: $117 (set)

   Rear: $131 (set)

 

Durastop:

Rotors

   Front: $58 (each)

   Rear: $60 (each)

 

Pads

   Front: $70 (set)

   Rear: $74 (set)

ficuss

The pulsating you feel while braking may not be due to warped rotor(s). My rotors were deeply rusted. Turning the rotors below the rust level was not possible. This would have left less than the minimum allowable thickness. I thought my dealer gave me a fair shake, your prices for parts only show he did.

corrinas30

I had a Trailblazer LT wich I think is very simular to the Envoy that was doing that.

It ended up that the transmission mount had

fallen off. They replaced it and good as new.

 

Corrina

raleigh

What do you mean by "brakes are new to GM and they are still trying to get it right?" Was that just an off-the-cuff comment or does it point to something we should know? I'm rather surprised that my '04 Envoy's rotors are already rusty. Must be iron instead of stainless. I popped for a front and rear set of high performance aftermarket ceramic pads, but haven't put them in yet. I was very tempted to also go for the stainless slotted rotors, but didn't want to spend any more than I had to.

ficuss

Your rusty rotors are an example of what I mean. If you keep your envoy for 3 or 4 years your brakes may get that pulsing feeling because of the rusty rotors.

rver

I just had the fan clutch go bad the same way full on! Trailblazer with 35,600 miles! Whew...just under warranty so zero dollars out of pocket. Had some discussion with dealer tech regarding how it works and if it was gonna fail again in 36k miles. Course best I could get was this part is warrantied for 12k, 12 months. Seems GM decided to complicate things here...has somesort of electrical contacts allows 12v and 5v to Fan clutch fluid solenoid and hall effect sensor.

adupwe

hi... first time here.. just wondering if anyone has had any type of electrical problems with their trailblazer.. I have a 2004 that we bought in oct. 03 I have loved this vehicle. A couple of weeks ago.. the lights on my radio buttons starting going out... then coming back on.. then they went out and never came back on.. a couple of days after that my cd player completely quit working. Well.. night before last.. I woke at 2 am to cops banging at my door.. because my trailblazer was on fire in my driveway. They believe that it was electrical and started in the console area where the heat/air controller is in the back... It is totally baffling.. the car was not running there was nothing plugged up inside the car.. we just don't understand what happened or how...and now we have to deal with insurance and all.... Has anyone had any type of electrical problems with their's.. I mean.. I love mine and would like another.. but now I am scared to death of them

tblazed

If the fire can be attributed to a defect in the electrical system of your Trailblazer, GM should pay for the damage and replace the vehicle, not your insurance company. Should be a warranty issue, seems to me anyway. I think that's the first case of spontaneous combustion of a Trailblazer I have read about. Imagine if that had happened in an attached garage.

tb4me

Hi all,

 

02 TB, LT. One of the dash lights burnt out at the top over the speed-o. Started to take the dash apart from the bottom. Wow, it's not like old times just removing the lower panel reaching up and unscrewing the socket. Any one have to do this yet? And if so how far do you have to remove to get to these blasted things. The bulb is under 2 bucks and it appears that the labor could be hundreds! I also tried going in from the side panel and no luck there.

adamjeeps

I continue to love everything about our TB except the constant wind noise. I was thinking, could some of this noise/rush be caused by the gap between the headlights and the fenders? It seems like with a headwind I get a more pronounced rush and related resistance. Makes me think the air is flowing into the fender and into the firewall/door jamb area. In looking at other cars/SUV's, the higher end models have very tight gaps in the fender/headlight area. Any thoughts??

tblazed

If you mean one of the instrument cluster lamps, the inst cluster would have to be removed and disassembled, take the bezel, pointers and dial face apart to get to the lamps. Not an easy task.

poles

i was curious if anyone has replaced their Chevy symbol on the front of their TB. i have a black LS and i want to put a black Chevy symbol on the front. if anyone knows where i can get this or how to install it,that would be great.

thanks

      poles

2k_impala_ls

They buy them from parts stores just like we do. A went to an Advance Auto in my town to get parts for friends car to do a brake job for him and they did not have the parts. The sales guy told me the Chlysler dealer gets all of their brake parts there. They sell durastop at Autozone. I do over 25 brake jobs a year and buy the rotors at napa or advance and never had a problem. The only thing not to get cheap on is the pads. The cheap ones will squeek.

01_hoe

Might find what you are looking for on Ebay. As I understand you, you want to replace the gold bow tie with something black. Look on Ebay.

tblazed

You might check out part # 15174573 which shows to be the RPO-41U black grill. GM Parts Direct shows it for about $121. In the exploded view parts list I have, the bow-tie emblem is not shown seperately. I think the grill and emblem are seperate parts though- have seen a couple of TBs around town with non-original bow-tie emblems.

imadad2

My experience with wind noise had me find three different areas that cause it. First, the roof racks. Remove the bars completly, or place them behind the "B" pillar. Second, the seals in the doors. I added some weather stripping underneath the seals, and that cut down the noise. Third and last the side mirrors. In 2004 and 2005 models, this problem is supposed to be fixed, but drive with your mirrors in, and see if there is a sound difference. If there is, research mirror fix in the archives, and you can fix it that way. I doubt the gaps in the headlights and fenders are making a lot of noise. I think the first two wind noise problems are the cause. I made the appropriate fixes, and now I can live with the wind noise.

01_hoe

On our '01 Tahoe, the bowtie can be replaced separate from the grille. I removed the bow tie and painted it the same color as the vehicle. The bowtie on the Tahoe is less than $15.00 to replace. (DYI) part only.

kgbkahnk

I've replaced my gold plastic bowtie emblem with a polished billet aluminum one. Installation is easy.

 

Then entire grill assy. comes out as one piece. By that I mean the upper and lower grille, as well as the body-colored or chrome cross bar that bisects the headlights. The whole piece is held in by plastic clips that pop out relatively easily with gentle pulling. Start at the top (with the hood up) and work your way around.

 

Once the grille's out, the bowtie has two nuts holding it on from the back. Good luck

spiff72

Well, I brought in my car today to have the brakes looked at (along with other things), and I had pitted rotors too. They agreed to cover them under warranty, but the pads/labor per axle was about $110. They were not sure if the rears needed replacement - they were going to ty turning them first. To me this seems like a reasonable deal, since I would have paid more in parts for new rotors/pads per axle if I chose to do it myself. I am still waiting to hear if they needed new rotors in the rear.

corrinas30

Steve,

Under the advice from a friend of the family who owns his own repair shop, I took my TB to a different dealership. They not only honored my warranty that had expired by only a few miles, but fixed me up in a Tahoe for the duration my TB is in the shop. I will be calling Chevrolet to file a complaint against the dealership I bought my TB from and to tell Chevy what a wonderful place the shop that is working on my TB is. I still have no idea what the vibrating is but when I dropped the TB off the shop informed me that my 4X4 lights on the dash weren't working

and they have now replaced the modal. That would have cost me nearly $400. I will update

when I find out what the vibrating is.

Thanks

Corrina

stever

Great news ~ sounds like it's all working out ok.

 

Steve, Host

2k_impala_ls

We have had a bunch of days at or below zero. When I start my TB I get a whinning noise. It sounds like a power steering pump out of fluid.

When you move the wheel, the noise changes and the noise goes away once it warms up. Should I bring it in to the dealer to have it liooked at? Anyone else have these noises.

ficuss

My 02 TB does the same thing. It only lasts several seconds and is the least significant TB problem in my list. It always stops before I pull away anyway. It reminds me a little of the morning sickness the GM cars had in the 80's with the power steering. This is a big improvement over the morning sickness. The steering would not work when it was cold and the car was just started. You had to wait and let the steering box warm up before you could steer. Our 1959 Rambler did not do that.

gatorman

Has anyone installed a Benevento sunroof wind deflector on a new Chevy Trailblazer? I was wondering if this deflector can be installed with the OnStar and XM radio antennas just about an inch in front of the sunroof rubber gasket.

 

Thanks for your imput!!

hammen2

My sister had this problem with her '03 Trailblazer. The dealer changed out the power steering fluid for one for colder climates (I think this was a TSB - no charge). Problem hasn't come back... suggest you have this done (and have them flash the PCM to the latest firmware - fixes a few bugs, too - at least it did on my wife's 2004 Envoy).

 

--Robert

jannear

I also just had the fan clutch replaced today in my 2002 TB at 49000 miles. I also experienced intermitant fan roaring almost from day 1 but nothing consistent enough to demonstrate to the Chev. service center. It finally locked up yesterday and required replacing. Very interested in pursuing with GM also.

previousamigo

Please correct me if I'm wrong. The only 4X4 display I should see are the orange little dots above the turn dial on the dash just to the left of the radio for my '02 LS TB. There is no other 4X4 display on the instrument cluster above/near the tach or speedo? In the manual I only saw "Service 4X4" on the instrument cluster. We recently had some deep snow and I did use the 4HI but never saw anything displayed on the instrument cluster, just the orange dots.

 

Maybe I'm just remembering the 4X4 display on the instrument cluster on my old '92 Isuzu Amigo with locking hubs. It's tough to get old...

brybry

Did GM actually send you the letter?