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2010+ Buick Lacrosse - Options

e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
edited October 2014 in Buick
As the title says, issues related to options, except where there is a more appropriate discussion. Such things as factory and dealer options or add-ons.


  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    edited October 2010
    I am interested in what it includes. Details were sketchy at the build it site and showed it included mud flaps and some protection to door edge.
    Can someone tell me what you got in yours?

    On the Malibu it was a clear plastic film on door edges, rear end, and one on the bumper to protect it from scratches when accessing the trunk.
    I think I'd like to have the film at all those locations.
    Is there an aftermarket version?

    I saw a new one that showed the package on the window sticker but the vehicle did not have flaps or protective film on it.
  • Sorry e, no flaps or film. Isn't the film something reserved for shipping and to be removed by dealer at delivery?

    My CXS stay pretty clean w/o mud flaps.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    The film I mention was on the Malibu as part of some package. It is a thin clear vinyl or something like that. Likely self adhesive. It was on the door edges and on the bumper in the area of trunk opening. The latter was to protect the bumper when moving something in or out of trunk. It works because son-in-law grabbed his big suitcase and dragged it from trunk across it. No mark whatsoever.
    The flaps I saw in picture are quite small, but may be valuable against stones being thrown by tires.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    I have this option with rear view camera.
    On two occasions the screen became very dark, once to the point I could make out nothing.
    Both times it happened when the headlights automatically came on.
    The other day I was under a thick canopy of trees about 1630. I adjusted the dimmer control on dash to full brightness and that did not help. I gave it the command "Display Day" which it accepted but did nothing.
    Also the camera has trouble with late afternoon images. They appear blurry and unable to adapt to lighting conditions.

    Has anyone seen these issues or a fix?
  • kjs8kjs8 Posts: 53
    My 2010 camera sometimes does not work many times at all in reverse, just a blank screen with the direction warning lines imposed on the screen. This mostly happens in the rain. The camera also is blurred in the sunlight and in the afternoon shadows. My dealer told me that the camera is not designed to work in the rain or in full sunlight or shade. Go figure, do you think we're stupid, I've experienced many problems with the LaCrosse with no GM fixes. I don't think this is right. 2011 models still have defective memory seats, is that unbelievable....
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Some of this just seems outrageous. Why did they not just ask us to hand over money. At least then we'd know their intent, robbery.
    I was by the dealer today because of issues. First by sales. Another salesman wandered by and I asked him about the seat memory. I showed him what was going on. No problem he could fix. He was going to turn the memory function off. I'm glad his customer was standing nearby when this occurred, and I think he left.
    I was then shuffled over to service manager. He told me someone did something to the car, the crease that has paint in it? Also did not seem to want to do anything related to the flaws in headlamp. He was going to look into the Nav display issue and seat memory issue.
  • kjs8kjs8 Posts: 53
    You are right about the robbery issue, could not agree with you more. My dealer is the best to deal with, but they can't get any input or answers from GM on any of the issues we all see every day as we drive the LaCrosse, and I really like this car. GM just makes it so hard to be loyal to their brand.
  • When parked on a slight incline I proceed to put the shift in reverse to back up, as I have done for the past 45 years with many GM vehicles. But it is not so easy with this new Buick. I need to keep my foot on the brake while stepping on the gas pedal to back up safely so I will not roll forward into whatever is in front of my car at the time. I was told by the dealer this is normal. That is ridiculous. This is definitely a safety problem. It also rolls back while I am stopped and proceed to drive forward. The dealer said it was normal. I thought this was an automatic transmission. It acts like a manual transmission with a clutch. Does anyone else have this problem?
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Because it is pretty flat around here, I have not yet seen the roll forward or back problem. I have noticed while backing up that it seems to take an inordinate amount of pedal. It gives the feeling that the transmission might be slipping. I'll have to monitor RPM, but that is not easy either because the tachometer is not easy to read accurately.
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,251
    Hello Wolfman14,
    Have you taken the vehicle to another dealership in order to get a second opinion? Does this happen intermittently? Have you tested the vehicle on an incline at the dealership with a service tech with you? Thank you,
    Mariah GM Customer Service
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    I often get to screens that show choice buttons but nothing happens when I push them. And have gotten where it will respond to nothing forcing me to pull over and restart engine.
    Has anyone else experienced this?
    In the NAV manual, page 100, there are several commands that in brackets it says, "(used in conjunction with another command)". Does anyone understand what that means?
    Some of the voice commands seem stupid, such as the first one to access phone capability if you have NAV, "Hands Free". Is not that the whole purpose of using voice commands? Why is it not "phone, telephone, or OnStar, etc.".
    And on the subject of "hands free" voice commands to the NAV system, it seems stupidly limited. Example, Show Gas, Hide Gas. It seems to be an all or nothing, no asking for particular brands. That is if you enter manually, you can get specific brands from a list to show, such as Shell, Chevron, etc.
    I had manually done such with Arby's fast food. And then tried the voice for dining. Show plastered map with location symbols, hide removed all but Arby's and I had to dig through menus to get it removed manually.
    What seems to be very limited commands I can compare to a very old program, Corel 7, which had a speech add on by IBM which enabled basic menu commands, no voice to text. That was the time when the fastest CPU was 200 MHz, biggest HDD 2 GB. That was 5 computer lifes ago, so I wonder why this system seems feeble.
    My old Bluetooth phone does a better job of recognizing commands accurately, using voice pass-through.
    I recently tried entering a destination with voice. It worked fine until I got to the street and then it kept popping up a list that did not contain the correct one. I could not find a way to enter it manually without losing the state and city. That is manually entering the entire destination.
    When will GM come out with an update to fix these issues?
  • "When will GM come out with an update to fix these issues? "

    Sadly, my money is on 'never'!
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    edited November 2010
    That thought entered my head, but word of mouth will kill sales. And if that is not enough, traded vehicles will display the same results from GM, each time the vehicle moves through an owner. If I bought a used vehicle with this much stuff wrong it would tell me to stay away from GM. And this being my second new GM in two years, it says the same. (the first was a GM buy back because of major safety issue, EPS. It too had lots of lessor issues.)

    GM better start making mine fixed or it will be the last.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Does anyone understand what they mean concerning preprogrammed playlists?
    Page 27 of Nav manual. The playlists I'm familiar with are associated with specific programs such as Winamp, Foobar, & WMP. I think each one uses its own format or extension for saving playlists.
  • iPod users can create a list of songs to play. One could create a list to drive to work with or a particular "best of" or a genre such as "Country". You can select this list off the NAV touch screen when you don't want to just shuffle or manually find individual songs to play.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Verified? I suppose that would be nice. I could not get my wife's Ipod to work with it. I assumed it was because of the file structure I could see with computer. I went into folders and burned music to CD which then transferred to HDD fine. Can you tell me what the file structure is on your Ipod so I can compare?
    Are there any other known playlists that are recognized? It might help eliminating music in folders as a predesigned playlist substitute.
  • My iPod works just fine. It is a simple plug in, no extra steps needed. Just be sure that the current menu on the iPod is NOT set to something other than songs. I found that if mine gets jostled and goes into video top level, it isn't recognized by the car. Go into songs to the menu level where "shuffle" is one option. Have ipod on and just plug into the USB with the proprietary iPod connector. My file structure on the iPod is the standard factory from Apple.
  • FYI, playlists are created in Itunes on your pc OR mac. You don't create them using the car.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Some models will not work according to owners manual.
    My daughter set it up for my wife so I'm not familiar with Apple apps other than the ones for computer use.
  • Let's make a distiction between real Apple products vs. MP3 players. If there is a specific list of Apple models which are not compatable, follow that warning. You could easily try it in another like car at your dealer. See your salesman. I have two different models, both work (iTouch 8GB and iPod 5th Gen Video)
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    I earlier complained about lousy bass on this system. It still has problem, but let me get to good part first.
    I turned on ACC, HDD, & played a couple of tunes in the cool quiet air and cranked the volume a bit. Beetles 'Come Together' with some very bassy passes. Then I played "He ain't heavy, he's my brother". That has some very nice higher harmonic and other, but with very little low bass. It was with this tune I learned just what the sound system is capable of, minus the bass issue, and you won't believe us less you try it.
    Or will You?
    But this should convince you especially if you try same tune of equal to mine. That this is a fantastic system with acoustics that don't quit.
    BTW I learned reason the bass is distorted. I have not yet decided upon fix but I've located the harmonic spot with issue to within inch. I'll see if I can come up with esthetic appearance to fix as well as let it churn out the bass notes it is capable of.
    A hint at one of the surround or stereo point of this system. Pick something that has a wide front with vocalist center.
    I now need to do more road testing to see what interference there is to the quality. Air and road noises might reach the level of deterioation that is objectionable, subjective to me. I'll post what I learn related to driving.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Has anyone figured out how to use these files?
    Several places I've read indicate this is a non-lossy format, but when I run conversion using Foobar it pops a warning that I'm converting to a lossy format.
    If anyone has experience I'd appreciate feedback.
    Maybe it is the Nero encoder I'm using?
    But I will copy to disc and see what happens. :shades:
  • My recollection of the car's feature is that one can copy a comercial/retail music CD from the car's player to the HDD. I also understand a disk made at home which has MP3 files will likely play in the CD changer. You seem to be overly complicating what is needed. What are you trying to do? This CAR forum probably won't get you any answers. Sorry.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Space on HDD for music is limited to 10GB which is adequate, but copying full CD's that is about 15 CD's. You can do many more if you convert to MP3, but that is a lossy format and often has poor quality at some points unless you code to the very highest rate.
    Still somewhat uncertain, but I've read that m4a is not lossy and will give exact quality of CDA but in a much smaller file.
    Example, the Beatles One album, 1Hr 20 M long. That is a little over 1GB.
    If you transcode it to MP3 at the highest rate, the file is about 200MB. I'm not certain because three songs I transcoded at a lower rate just for comparison. My coding to m4a yielded a little over 220 MB, but I think I used the standard rate which is deemed CD quality. That would mean four times as many full disks to the HDD.
    Does that help explain it.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Update. Success!!!
    It turns out that windows built in burning must have gotten corrupted. Added other burning software and burned files the car would not previously read.
    M4A is really great!!
    What I've also learned is that the system reads a CD just like the computers HDD. That is if you use the Nav screen for listing what is available, it reads the file name which means it is best to use the Artist, Album, song, etc for naming files, but it reads the tags to get that info when displaying what is being played.
    The HUD could confuse since it says MP3 List, not an MP3.
    BTW I used highest rate and 1:59 of music only take 325MB. That would be 60 hours on HDD. I'll try lower rates to see if I find them satisfactory.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    I found that there is a button in the end of the turn signal stalk. At first I thought it was non-functional but holding it for a couple of seconds the Nav system makes a chime. I observed no other function than it makes a sound. I don't see anything in manual.
    Does anyone know what it is supposed to do?
  • cooterbfdcooterbfd Posts: 2,770
    Really??? That's the button I use to reset the trip odo and fuel econ.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Now where did I put those keys? ;-)
    And only a couple of hours earlier I fueled and reset everything. Brainfart? I'm thinking that I had the tire pressure sensors showing but uncertain. I guess what confused me was the sound coming from the NAV system and then looking in that area to find what the chime was.
    Thanks (with a red face).
  • cooterbfdcooterbfd Posts: 2,770
    ".....Brainfart? "

    Could that be where the odor is coming from??? (Please don't erase this message for that) :P
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