Subaru Impreza WRX

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Strange Hutch, you're just an hour north and we only got rain. Enjoy what is probably the last of the white stuff.

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I'm in the middle, between you and Hutch, and we got sleet. :)

    Bob
  • cinosweivecinosweive Member Posts: 166
    There is something wrong w/ your Radio - I get pretty good reception.

    There may be something wrong w/ your heater as well. My only complaint w/ the heater is for such a small engine, it takes an awfully long time to get going. On a cold day, I don't have anything resembling heat for 5 to 10 minutes. Kind of like driving an old Buick.

    But once it gets going, my heater kicks but. I normally drive w/ the setting in the 12 o'clock position.

    The rear defogger is pretty lethargic, but I have never had much luck w/ those things.
  • thecatthecat Member Posts: 535
    Dave - I lost clips 4 different times down in a little hollow behind the plastic wheel well liner. I was able to retrieve and reuse them each time. After a deposit into Lynn's $#%*!& jar. As an engineer, I was losing all respect for my idiot colleague that designed those clips. I even gave him/her a nickname .. the clip dip.

    Juice/Bob - snow and sleet here. It didn't stick to the road but the yard got frosted. I can't enjoy it .. I just want to ride my motor cy...cle.
    You have to think of Arlo Guthrie to appreciate that last line.
    - Hutch
  • rubicon52rubicon52 Member Posts: 191
    I'm may be buying a WRX and was planning on getting the short shifter as an option. However, someone posted in this forum that in his opinion the short shifter was not as good as the standard shifter. I have driven the standard shifter and thought it was fine. Has anyone driven both the standard shifter and the short shifter? Thanks.
  • cinosweivecinosweive Member Posts: 166
    I didn't know they were out yet but I saw my first Evo today. That would be a great stealthmobile if it didn't have the dorky wing. The competition between Subaru and Mitsubishi should ultimately produce good things for us all. Still, the first thing I thought of when I saw it was, now we have two AWD, turbocharged Rally inspired sports sedans to choose from, and they're both ugly.
  • cinosweivecinosweive Member Posts: 166
    Merrycynic: I think the center console does fit CD jewel cases. It does on mine anyway. I wonder if they changed that at some point?
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    after the initial sales push, I have to believe that wingless models will be available in the next model year. Both cars offer 996 performance for half the price, with 4 doors and AWD. Silver and black models with silver rims could also be very low key, by just removing the wing. These cars could be ultimate performance sedans for those who don't want to spend the money on a luxury interior. (I don't think the hood scoop draws as much attention as the wing does)

    The M3 and M5 don't look too different from their 3 and 5 series base models, on first glance, and a lot of people appreciate having a fun, great performing car in a less ostentatious package. Of course, when they are selling as many Evo's and STi's as they can ship, they can build them how they want.
  • corkfishcorkfish Member Posts: 537
    The EVO VIII GTA is a much more attractive package. No wing and no dorky hood vent. I don't know if they're going to import it though.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    and they're both ugly

    You had me ROTFLMAO with that one. Good comedic timing, along with being surprising.

    I like the wings, heck, if you got that much performance, why not flaunt it?

    -juice
  • trevian2trevian2 Member Posts: 22
    I am looking at the WRX now that prices have come down a bit for the 2003's. But I have a couple of questions for everyone:

    What type of mileage do you get after break in? (Worst/Best/Average)

    Can golf clubs fit in the trunk of the sedan?

    Does anyone know of a roof rack (for Bikes) that would fit on the sedan?

    As you can see I'm looking at the sedan specifically. Does anyone have any advice on what options you would consider a "must have"?

    Thanks a lot,
    Jason
  • qualityguyqualityguy Member Posts: 101
    would anyone know what are the changes of 04 comparing to 03/02 WRX (except exterior changes), and, if there is a resource on the web giving detailed description of those changes? Thanx in advance.
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Jason-
    <<What type of mileage do you get after break in? (Worst/Best/Average)>>
    For me, my input would be irrelevant - (i) my WRX isn't broken in yet, and (ii) my foot has lighten up.

    <<Can golf clubs fit in the trunk of the sedan?>>
    I know of an owner that has fitted his golf clubs in there.

    <<Does anyone know of a roof rack (for Bikes) that would fit on the sedan?>>
    Don't know.

    <<Does anyone have any advice on what options you would consider a "must have"?>>
    The WRX pretty much have all the must have.
    What would be nice to have is the extended arm rest, and the upgraded sound. Others may differ, and YMMV.

    -Dave
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Check Thule and Yakima.com for bike racks that fit.

    -Dennis
  • twrxtwrx Member Posts: 647
    Info including pricing in now up on Mitsu's site on the Evo. Base is just under $29K. If you don't like wings then it is an option. If you put the wing, sunroof and 6 disc CD it jumps to $32k. With all options it is $36k. According to the site there is no cruise control. What? Does not look like there will be that much price advantage for the Evo compared to the prices we have heard projected for the STI.

    For my money the base WRX is still the best performance for the money.

    But of course if they ever did an STI wagon I could still be tempted.
    TWRX
  • qualityguyqualityguy Member Posts: 101
    base WRX is still the best performance for the money - the SRT4 neon looks VERY good for the money - did anyone drive it, BTW?
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    "..the SRT4 neon looks VERY good for the money.."

    Yeah, except for the fact that it's a Chrysler!

    -Dennis
    Disgruntled former '95 Neon owner :-)
  • qualityguyqualityguy Member Posts: 101
    Hey, this is the land of equal opportunity!!! For cars too! And car that strong is never bad. It can have certain, ah-a, flaws. On the more serious note, PT Cruiser show excellent reliability so far, and I've heard (may be on some of edmunds discussions), that Chrysler/Dodge dealers complain, that they now get only 1/3 of work paid under warranty from what there was a couple years ago. Again, did anyone drive SRT-4 and how does it compare to WRX? And, does anyone know, where I can look up list of all charges for WRX for 02/03/04 models? Thanx.
  • socprofinblrexsocprofinblrex Member Posts: 18
    At the risk of getting vegoen "goin" again...

    "race YOUR wrx"?!? What WRX? In one week time you've gone from baiting WRX posters, criticizing all manner of WRX commentary to ....

    ... purchasing, breaking in (1,000 miles, and planning to race!

    Wow! That's quite a turn-around in attitude to the WRX and in purchase time.

    So, wagon or sedan? Sixteens or seventeens? What color? Which Chicago-area dealer did you go with (I'm assuming your reference to Chicago area and the short turn-around time to purchase and break-in means you purchases locally)? How did you get those 1,000 miles in on the breakin so fast? Did you finance? What was your rate? What insurance coverage do you have? What is your yearly rate to insure?

    Okay, I'm done taking the bait. I'll stay out of it.

    socprofinblrex
  • honwrxhonwrx Member Posts: 5
    my 2003 wrx has 1300 mi -I love it! should I get seat covers how much & where-what about an extentened warrenty. thnx
  • twrxtwrx Member Posts: 647
    Hi. I have 25,000 miles and almost 2 years on my WRX wagon. Don't worry about seat covers. The seats are very durable. No wear and no rips, loose threads. In short perfect. The same was true with the seats in my '98 Forester that I had for 4 years.

    TWRX
  • kevin111kevin111 Member Posts: 991
    Short-throw has 30% shorter throws than the regular manual.

    I could be wrong, but I am guessing the the Short-throw has more robust synchros (sp?) for harder shifting. It is stiffer to shift than the regular one as well.

    I have the manual and like it. Can shift very quickly with it (and I am a novice!).

    '04 changes:
    - New seats
    - Speed sensitive steering
    - Antenna in rear-glass
    - Tach in middle of Dash
    - More chrome around dash gauges.
  • cinosweivecinosweive Member Posts: 166
    Mileage: My first tank was 20 mpg. Now, with nearly 20K miles I am getting just over 25 mpg. About 80% of my miles are on the hwy at about 70 mph. Mileage really seems to improve w/ age (I guess the driver's as well as the car's). It also varies inversely with fun though. :-(

    On the options end of things I would recommend the arm rest extension and the stereo upgrade with the subwoofer. The security system upgrade might be standard now, but if not, get that too. I kind of like the cargo net but I drive a wagon. If you live in snow country you may want to get a set of rubber floor mats and resign yourself to adjusting the driver's mat frequently. I have a turbo gauge - not a necessity, the car just came that way. It is kind of interesting to see just how often you are on boost (often).

    Yakima and Thule both make racks for the WRX.

    I almost forgot. You have an option available that most of us didn't. The sunroof. I'd get the sunroof. I am saying that sight (and price) unseen though.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Member Posts: 1,640
    your rubber mats? I bought the Subie rubber mats for the Forester, the deep channels are excellent for all kinds of floor fodder. I put the rubber on top of the carpet mats, except for the drivers which has the peg hole to keep it from sliding around. If the carpeted one isn't removed, the rubber one won't get locked down and could slip.

    John
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Also he has gotten his comp lisc. too!

    -mike
  • corkfishcorkfish Member Posts: 537
    I've heard that the 04 will be significantly heavier. Can anyone confirm that?
  • dsattlerdsattler Member Posts: 135
    Synchros are the same. It "feels" stifferr because it's shorter, so you're getting less leverage when you shift. By the by, it will loosen over time.
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Isn't that listed in the PDF that's floating around?

    -Dennis
  • qualityguyqualityguy Member Posts: 101
    What PDF?
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Have a look around in http://www.imprezawrxsti.com
  • dgraves1dgraves1 Member Posts: 414
    dsattler - You are right about the reduced lever arm, but that won't change as a function of time or use.
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Who cares about 0-60 anyway?

    To borrow a quote, "Any fool can go fast in a straight line". Just in case you can't figure it out, I'm not directing this towards you, but rather making the point that 0-60 isn't everything that the WRX is about.

    There's too much lag in the WRX. If I had to do it all over again, I would get a Mazda 6 or Honda Accord. Don't get the WRX, it's not worth it. My wife's Outback is faster.

    -Dennis
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
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  • twrxtwrx Member Posts: 647
    Yup 20 k is a magic #. I've posted this many times before: max hwy mileage first few tanks was 24 and 17 city. Since 20 k 26.5 is lowest hwy and 19.5 lowest city. Higest ever city 21 and highest highway 30.
    TWRX
  • cinosweivecinosweive Member Posts: 166
    John: I guess the WRX rubber mats don't have a peg hole like the carpet mats do. Mine slide all over the place. I have to pull the driver's mat back every few trips. I just do it habitually now - no big deal.
  • deepthinkerdeepthinker Member Posts: 13
    Hi all; I've been reading this board for months, finally test drove a Rex, and looking to get a 2004. I had a few questions.
    1) I think I'll want better sound than the base 80 watt stereo. I'm not a music fanatic, but sometimes I do like to drive with some tunes. Do people think the Subaru subwoof/amp/speakers upgrade is adequate? I have a nice alpine head unit in my old car, would that improve stereo at all if I put that in?
    Also, wanted to throw in my two cents after sitting in both the 2003 and 2004. I think the 2004 seats are really comfortable(I'm 5'11). And for all those thinking of buying, the stock shifter seemed great to me; I'm not even going to check out the short throw.
    Thanks in advance for any advice!
    -Steve
  • dsattlerdsattler Member Posts: 135
    You're right: the lever won't change as a function of time, but the bushings and linkage will. Folks who post on this board and have owned WRX's for awhile have said shifting became less stiff as time went on.
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Ooo.... another Steve joining the ranks :D

    Steve-
    The upgraded sound system (speaker w/subwoofer) is definitely an improvement. To my ears, they are OK not the best.
    Go for another test drive and bring some CDs along. Find one that has the upgraded sound, and turn that radio on. :)

    -Dave
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    It's probably not a match for some systems out there, but it's pretty good IMHO.
    Also, the OEM sub is adjustable (although the controls are difficult to get to).

    Yeah, take a CD along on a test drive.

    -Dennis
  • lilbluewgn02lilbluewgn02 Member Posts: 1,089
    Michael and I stopped by a Mitsu dealer last weekend just for fun...they had 2 EVOs in the showroom and 5 outside, in various colors. The first thing I noticed is the $5,999 dealer markup! Yep there is nothing wrong with your TV set...6 grand on top of the 30K+ prices of the cars there!
    I asked for a test drive...."no problem, after you buy one and sign the papers"
    Inside we go to sit in one and make believe (it was also around 91 degrees outside and same for humidity...after all, this is Florida). If people thought the WRX interior was cheap, they should see the EVO's. To say ugly and plasticky is putting it mildly. The seats, being Recaros, had great lateral support, but after a few minutes, the hardness gets to your rear. I can't see driving this to Disney (180 miles for us). I didn't see any height adjustment lever either. The trunk is a nice size for this class of car, the colors are cool, and Brembos look mighty tasty.

    As for mileage, with my automatic wagon at approx 14,000 miles, I get between 19 -21 mpg, usually with the AC on. Havent been on a road trip recently, but if Michael comes home with a decent report card tomorrow, it's off to Disney; I'll make note of highway mileage then.

    Cooler temps coming this weekend (low 80s and dry).
    Serge
  • thecatthecat Member Posts: 535
    With 25k on the Odo, I consistantly get 24mpg in mixed driving. I don't do much "city" driving my local jaunts are more of a country setting.

    New Steve - if you're an audiophile, you won't be satisfied with even the upgraded sound system. The basic problem is that the door panels are too shallow to accomodate a speaker with any amound of depth. Plus, even the upgrade speakers from SOA are paper cone. IMHO you money would be better spent going aftermarket rather than the upgraded speaker system from Soob. Some ovals in the rear deck (sedan) are the solution I'm looking at but 6x9's won't fit because of the trunk arms are in the way. There is a lot of info about this issue over at I-Club.
    - Hutch
  • pbaldypbaldy Member Posts: 15
    I have a sedan. I've had both my wife's and my golf clubs in the trunk many times, along with a bunch of other junk. The trunk is actually pretty decent sized.

    I'm at 5k miles, so still breaking it in (but taking it to redline!). I get about 20mpg around town, 27 highway.

    Paul
  • vegoenvegoen Member Posts: 82
    Which engine would last you longer? A 6 cylinder or a 4 cylinder turbo?

    Anyone know the total wattage of the WRX premium sound
  • kevin111kevin111 Member Posts: 991
    4 cylinder turbo vs. V6 - which will "most likely" last longer?

    - need to know much more about the engines before giving an answer. It depends on the robustness on both engines, the compression ratios, the pressure from the turbos, what other components are used, etc. Tough call. Most likely, with the way engines are built today, the last thing to go would probably be the engine. You would probably have other things go wrong (Tranny, suspension units, joints, seals, etc.) before the engine dies in today's cars.

    - Total power of upgraded sound system - 80 watt head-unit, 120-watt sub. Plenty loud as I can attest to. Rarely ever get it near max, and that is only when the reception is poor and the windows are open on the freeway.

    - Wattage is not the end-all to total volume and bass a system can deliver. For Instance, I had a 25 watt Alpine that could blow the doors off a 40 watt Panasonic head unit.
  • cinosweivecinosweive Member Posts: 166
    I had never heard of heal toe shifting until I became interested in the rex. So now that I have one, I thought I would give it a try. I guess it takes some practice. I am feeling pretty clutzy about it right now. But, boy, when you get it right, it sure does make for some smooth downshifting.

    My biggest problem comes from swinging my heel too far over and catching the knobby heals of my running shoes on the carpet of the transmission hump. Also, when I do hit the gas right-on, it seems difficult to know just how much gas to give it. I feel a bit like I am trying to pat my head while rubbing my stomach.

    Can anyone give any pointers or is this one of those things you just gotta figure out on your own?
  • himilerhimiler Member Posts: 1,209
    This will help --
    http://www.turnfast.com

    Heel-toeing is tough to do with a lug sole shoe.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    This might also be helpful: Heel and Toe Downshift by Brent Romans.
  • cinosweivecinosweive Member Posts: 166
    Thanks for the links. Now that I know it is supposed to take some work to master, I don't feel quite so klutzy anymore. Time to go practice:)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The engine will outlast the rest of the car. In fact, some very high-mile Subaru engines are salvaged and used in airplanes after the car is came in is retired, with some modifications of course.

    -juice
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