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  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    but let me try to clarify what I meant about selling things in the TH. You can't sell something to me. If I'm looking for a specific item and you know a web resource for that item, of course you may post a link to that website.

    And yes, I think saying go the 300M board to follow up on something for sale would be okay. It is not okay to post links to pages where you have advertised something, though - including ebay links. Again, we're talking about YOU being the seller. If you are just sharing helpful information, there is no problem with that whatsoever, and we encourage you to do so.

    You just can't say "I'm selling this - let me know if you want it." Nor can you try to sell something for another Town Hall member - we've had that situation arise a number of times with sales people.

    I am sorry - I realize this may seem over-restrictive, and yes I do understand that the "intent" is very important. But we have found that in order to keep the Town Hall from becoming a flea market, as someone said - or worse! - we just have to have an across the board rule.

    The other thing is that even if I DIDN'T want to enforce this, I don't have that discretion. I'm sure most of you realize that your hosts are not the folks who make the rules, but we are the folks that are expected to see that they are upheld.

    Any policy issues in the Town Hall that you'd like to address may be taken up with our Consumer Services Manager, Jonah Brown - jbrown@edmunds.com.

    Anyway, let's don't go off on this tangent again - just shoot me an email if you have anything else to say or any further questions.

    Thanks!

    Pat
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    Sedans Message Board
  • blondablonda Member Posts: 542
    SDMike -you mean we're supposed to wash our cars first??? Mine will not have been washed in a week and I've had tire, ding and muffler guys crawling all over it. No time to wash before tomorrow. You'd be suprised to look at it though ... I love that Macquires Quick Detailer (better than Z6 for cleaning IMO).
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    clean that car! :) one of the door prizes is a mcquires set of three cleaning items, including the quick detailer. maybe you'll get lucky. By the way, the best prize will go to the person that talks you into skipping your other event and staying with us. :)
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    man, my boys at sd state are getting their hindquarters handed to them.
  • blondablonda Member Posts: 542
    They're losing? That sucks. But then again...what do you expect from a San Diego team?
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    beach15 - My last "g-ride" was a '95 Trans Am which was plenty fast and fun to drive, but it was also noisy, cramped, uncomfortable, and cheap! After the initial thrill wore off, I just hated being in it. That's why I decided on something quiet, comfortable, stylish, and big this time around. The LTD is plenty quick enough for my needs.

    As for my Buick, it has a good amount of low end torque and gets off the line quite well. According to "Car and Driver", 0-60 comes in 9.9 seconds, which sounds about right to the seat of my pants. The Buick's quality, luxury, and amenities have spoiled me and that's partly why I chose the Chrysler instead of a Mustang GT or some other go-fast car.

    hayneldan - I like the looks of the '99 Intrepid a lot and can imagine the improvement the wood trim makes to the interior. In fact, the Intrepid ES was on my short list. The only reason I tried for the LTD first is because, since I can't configure the car, just order it by model, I wanted to be sure I got 250 HP, traction control, keyless entry, and some other features that aren't standard on the Intrepid. Happy motoring!
  • rogor2krogor2k Member Posts: 385
    Here's hoping for great weather and attendance for the meet. Take lots of pics for the web site.

    Sincere thanks to sdmike2 for taking the lead and putting this all together. Everyone start saving your Frequent Driver miles for the Woodward Dream Cruise and LH plant tour in Canada in August.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Thanks Roger! Looks like the weather is going to be good for us. I know of at least 5 people that will be at the event, with 10 more responding that they'd be coming. 300michael, glenn, blonda, mrl, and myself are definites. If nobody else shows up we're going to split the door prizes and go spend our 4 hours in the local watering hole. lol!

    For everyone else, organizing an event is something that any club member can do. If you think an event needs to be held in your area please email Roger or another officer of the club and they'll help you get the ball rolling!
  • videoman1videoman1 Member Posts: 201
    Here's wishing everyone at the meet great weather, great food, and a great time. I wish I could be there but I'll have to wait for the East Coast Meet.

    Have fun and have a safe trip.
  • uxca300muxca300m Member Posts: 155
    Yahooieee! Just got a tax rebate cheque for $5,200.00 Gotta spend it before my wifey finds out about it. I just ordered $200.00 bucks worth of Zaino stuff and the Weathertech rain shields;have an appointment next week to get the windows tinted and another one to get a rust proof treatment so I've still got around $4,500.00 left. What do I do. What do I do. Maybe duels, air charger, bass booster, scoop. I gotta spend it before she finds out about it or I know it will end up as a new dining room suite. I NEED HELP! And no, I'm not donating it to any of you guys or girls. Suggestions?
  • videoman1videoman1 Member Posts: 201
    Duals, air charger, bass booster, and scoop sound great. But don't forget the rear wing and a nice dinner to celebrate.
  • uxca300muxca300m Member Posts: 155
    Yahooieee! Just got a tax rebate cheque for $5,200.00 Gotta spend it before my wifey finds out about it. I just ordered $200.00 bucks worth of Zaino stuff and the Weathertech rain shields;have an appointment next week to get the windows tinted and another one to get a rust proof treatment so I've still got around $4,500.00 left. What do I do. What do I do. Maybe duels, air charger, bass booster, scoop. I gotta spend it before she finds out about it or I know it will end up as a new dining room suite. I NEED HELP! And no, I'm not donating it to any of you guys or girls. Suggestions?
  • uxca300muxca300m Member Posts: 155
    Don't know why my message posted twice. Guess I was too excited.

    videoman1- Already got the wing but the dinner sounds good. I guess I could afford to take the honey out for a Big Mac and some fries. Still leaves me with $4,490.00 to get rid of though.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Funny, I got the same rebate amount! However, since I'm "between jobs" it's earmarked for less exciting things like food and the mortgage. :) I wish I could help you spend all of that, but I only have about $1500 into my mods including the duals, aircharger, tinting, hood cover, spoiler, and wood trim kit. You could sink another $1,500 into prowlerpro gears, or add a couple grand to your rebate and be the first one to install a Paxton supercharger in your M. lol


    If you want to see how any of my mods look as your considering it, check about 1/2 way down the page at http://www.ritchiefamily.com/300m.htm

  • glennbpglennbp Member Posts: 327
    It's obvious you're not skilled in the art of spending money! I promise that given a computer hooked up to the internet with a broadband connection, I could easily spend your $5200.00 on M stuff in 10 minutes! LOL My wife, on the other hand, could best both of us! She said she would be happy to give you lessons for a small commission! HAVE FUN!!!
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    Not to rain on your parade, I know how much fun it is to get a big refund, but...

    Have you considered changing your witholding so you keep that money in your pocket vs. letting the government borrow it from you interest free!

    A $5200 refund equates to more than $400/month in your pocket all year long! Use the extra $$ to get rid of outstanding debt, pay off your mortgage 10 years early, or invest it (Roth IRA if you don't have one yet).

    Since your employer witholds the money from your pay anyway, why not just set-up automatic payments from your checking account to whatever investment you decide? You've lived without it this long, you won't even miss it...and thanks to compound interest and dividend re-investment, it grows fast!

    OK, back to the fun (and no, I'm not selling anything).
  • no1trustno1trust Member Posts: 151
    If so, how does the M run?
  • videoman1videoman1 Member Posts: 201
    Hey Mike,

    What's your field of expertise (besides modifying your M)? Maybe we can help you land that next perfect job.
  • achanceachance Member Posts: 106
    Anyone had the experience of the wipers going nuts? Seems to happen mostly when its cold, single digit kinda cold. Can't control the speed, won't park, etc. It gets over it after a while. Of course the dealer can't replicate. Any thoughts?
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    fedlaw -
    Thanks for your concern, but my tax situation was very comlex this past year. The company that I owned part of was sold, I got some bonuses (which are taxed at the maximum rate), and I had some strange business expenses because of my 6 months of commuting and working out of my house after the company sale (before I got laid off). I normally get less than $1,000 back with good planning. 2001 wasn't condusive for planning very well.

    videoman1- I have quite a diverse background, so I'm not sure how to answer your question exactly. lol! I have a MBA in finance and economics and worked in the corporate finance field for a bit. I spend about 13 or 14 years doing operations and technology consulting for two of the "Big Five" firms. I spent a year as the VP of a web technology company, and then another year as a marketing director at the company that acquired us. I've now held my FAVORITE job for almost three months now....unemployed derelict! lol! I'm thinking, though, of getting my real estate license since I've learned to love making my own hours and I'm pretty good with numbers, property, and people. :) I've also threatened Blonda that I was going to give her a resume to pass on to her company. At least I know if I parked next to her I wouldn't get any door dings. :)))
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    ok you guys attending the meet...promise me you won't laugh at my paperweights - two cans of Libby's Fruit Cocktail! Anyone that brings a can opener will have a ready-made lunch. :)

    I hope more people than me bring their digital cameras to the meet. I have to get people signed in, do name tags, fill out certificates, hold the raffle, organize the voting for prizes, etc.. I may not have any time to take pictures! :)
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    I haven't had that issue with my M, but on my wife's grand caravan it turned out to be the wiper switch on the steering column. Once the interior of the car warmed up...as well as the switch...the problem went away. It was intermittant as well and the dealer finally got tired of me complaining and replaced the switch even though he couldn't replicate it either. It never happened again.

    Good luck
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    I don't envy your work/tax situation. I try to keep my finances simple and organized because otherwise, I lose control of them.

    Sorry I underestimated your situation.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    after 3 days, finally got car back. They replace the lines for the power steering and the cooler for PS---the belt is making some noise which they say will go away. They claim the leaking fluid is the cause. I wonder if that fluid will deteriorate the belt. Ialso notice that the fluid they used was clear. So it is probably power steering fluid, not atf-4 as others here have stated to use. My M is a Y2K and I guess they didnt start using the ATF till 01.

    Also they finally replaced my window switch which was black while all other were silver. At first they claimed it was supposed to be that way, but thanks to this board, I proved them wrong.

    There was a big sticker on my paperwork that stated that I will be getting a form to fill out to rate the dealership. They stated how they do their best to satisfy the customer. It stated that if I couldnt give top rating I should call them. Talk about pressuring for me to give a favorable rating. Oh,--and they seemed to be extra nice when returning my car. At least it was nicely washed.

    All in all, it was nice to be back in Lolita's saddle again. Sure beats the ford focus I was renting. The focus is a nice car for the price--handles good and had good pickup. But it lacks the room and conveniences of the M and was even noisier than the M.

    My warranty is almost up--I wonder if I should consider the extended warranty. I usually dont believe in them except for my notebook computer which has broken 6 times in one and a half years.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    In a few hours, you'll all be having a great time! Wish I was closer and could join you. I still like looking at M's, especially highly Z'd ones in red! ;-))

    Have a great time. It's a little foggy, misty and damp in So. CT this morning. MIGHT see some sun later today.

    Looking forward to seeing all those great pics! Have fun.

    fastdriver

    PS I think someone should give the 3 of you an award for keeping this topic in the top 10! ;-))
  • uxca300muxca300m Member Posts: 155
    Re:Not to rain on your parade, I know how much fun it is to get a big refund, but...

    Have you considered changing your witholding so you keep that money in your pocket vs. letting the government
    borrow it from you interest free!

    A $5200 refund equates to more than $400/month in your pocket all year long! Use the extra $$ to get rid of
    outstanding debt, pay off your mortgage 10 years early, or invest it (Roth IRA if you don't have one yet).

    Since your employer witholds the money from your pay anyway, why not just set-up automatic payments from
    your checking account to whatever investment you decide? You've lived without it this long, you won't even miss
    it...and thanks to compound interest and dividend re-investment, it grows fast!

    Yeah Yeah, I know all that.You sound like my wife and the wicked witch of the west (Mother-in-law). I guess I'll just go buy some new underwear and socks and put the rest into my portfolio. Sigh! I did have one happy mental health day though just dreaming what I could waste it on. (P.S. Pat-Anyway we could get fedlawman barred from this group :)
  • beach15beach15 Member Posts: 1,305
    How funny that you ask!! That's one of the main issues we're having with the M right now. You turn them on the first notch, and they shift up and inch but move no more. Turn the switch up another notch or two or up and down and they start to work. And, last weekend, we went to leave for church and my mother was wondering why the wipers we're sitting so far up from where they normally "park" when off. I turned them on and they moved, only to find out that when you shut them off, they stopped right where they were completely. I had to time it just right, and switch them off when they got closest to the bottom of the windshield.

    Oh my, can't you tell we just love the $30 grand American luxury sport sedan? For a while I was thinking of how great a value it is for all that you get. Now that we've had a 300M for about a year and a half, we can all see why the price is as low as it is. In a word, quality--our car is somewhat lacking. And boy did she have a good time talking to "Wes" yesterday at DC headquarters about all the problems. She also told him of how "shotty the quality was and how unreliable it was", and that "she would never buy another Chrysler if her life depended on it."

    Hey guys, all I can say is this, start looking for some clues in my posts over the next week or so...just a hint.
  • mrl859mrl859 Member Posts: 168
    It rained in San Diego last night and the streets are still wet. Do I waste my time and Zaino for the meet?
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    mrl - I think I'm going to take some stuff to clean up big red at the meet. Maybe the roads will dry up a bit this morning. Nice breeze and sunshine.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    Beach; its obvious you have a lemonM-- you have made it very clear---also your car was in a major accident which might be the cause of your many rattles and other probs---

    I have had my share of small problems , but for the most part they have been corrected and now at 30K the car is trouble free

    remember--all cars have problems--cars are mechanical and of the thousands of parts used in a car, some parts are bound to wear out or prove to be defective---

    the M has proven to have a very reliable power train, is very comfortable to drive, has power to spare, and has ample room for even the largest driver. As a bonus, it looks fantastic and is fairly priced.

    So enough of the M bashing---face it--You have a LEMON---turn it into lemonade--sell it and move on to something you will hopefully be happy will--just remember: your next car could be worse--just look at the Acura S version: they have tranny probs--

    Easyrider300M
  • mrl859mrl859 Member Posts: 168
    Do we know if it is supposed to rain more? If so, do we have a canopy......tent...snorkel?
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    The forecast is for "partly cloudy" with a high of 55 in Carlsbad. My guess is that we won't get enough sprinkles to justify trying to get a tent out there. We can always go inside the dealer. I think it'll be a fine day. :) I'm just trying to figure out whether I need to go wash Big Red now, or drive down to the corner car hand car wash and let them do it. Either way, Big Red needs a bath in a bad way after driving in the rain last night. See you in little over an hour!
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Member Posts: 2,909
    Your obsessive complaining is getting very tired. Yes, you have a lemon. Yes, it is a lemon that was in an accident. Yes your mom is scizophrenic about it. Yes you hate blue cars. Yes your wipers don't work. Yes you have rattles and seat problems and wheel problems and suspension problems and paint problems and dealer problems and and and. Let us know if anything new comes up. Otherwise you just sound like a broken record.

    Maybe the "PC" thing for me to do would be to just scroll past your posts. However, I'm hoping that highlighting this obsessive behavior...which could impact other parts of your life...might help you in the long run.
  • mikeyjohnmikeyjohn Member Posts: 365
  • rstilprstilp Member Posts: 105
    Well said!!!!! Thank you. It IS getting to be a tad much!
    Rick
  • russklassrussklass Member Posts: 389
    Enough already!
    Very sorry about your M-isfortune, but it is
    getting very tired.
    Don't you have something positive you can move on to?
  • kimieskimies Member Posts: 22
    You are a brave man...but I suppose after the first hole its go for broke. When do you think there will be another AZ meet? Probably not till the fall right...too hot for the summer...
  • kimieskimies Member Posts: 22
    I understand.
  • kimieskimies Member Posts: 22
    Thanks...will send you email mail on this subject later. Have a great meet..post pictures.
  • scotianscotian Member Posts: 1,064
    Today I tossed six orders into the mail. I have one waiting for three more orders (I print four faces to a page).


    I have yet to send one off the continent -- I'll fill any order, and send it anywhere -- all for free!


    http://public.fotki.com/Scotian/300m/interior/clock_face/

  • ruskiruski Member Posts: 1,566
    Why don't you guys crash it one more time. This time make sure that it is beyond repair.
  • specialmspecialm Member Posts: 31
    LMAO! I was thinking the same thing.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    The best thing to do is just skip them. All of you surely know that some people get a huge kick out of being annoying, right? Well, the way that they get their kicks is by having people respond angrily to them.

    All of our members are free to post messages in any discussion in the Town Hall as long as they remain within the Membership Agreement. The tax issue is not exactly on topic, so let me ask that we don't talk about that anymore. It is indeed off-topic and since some of us are annoyed by it, let's just let it go.

    And about the problematic 300M that belongs to someone's mother - okay, several of you have been clear about your feelings, so let's let that go as well.

    There's really nothing wrong with allowing people to vent appropriately in topic, it seems to me. Again, you should skip posts that either annoy you or just plain don't interest you.

    Thanks!

    Pat
    Host
    Sedans Message Board
  • beach15beach15 Member Posts: 1,305
    Oh, feel the love on this board! What was it that I said, I was trying to help someone out with the wipers, letting him know that ours acted strangely too. Yes, we have a lemon, we've known that for some time, and yes, sometimes it is annoying to the point that it makes us complain. So what? Do you guys all remember when we first got the car and how much we loved it? Well, that still exists, but is slightly outweighed by the problems we've had.

    A 300M is truly a great car, and like I said, I'd buy a new one myself, and that when you start comparing it to other things, it makes them seem insignificant in almost every aspect. But, like I always try to say, it's a car, get over it. It has no human life (well, okay, maybe some of those odd days it does!). I never meant for our complaints to turn into anything other than "suggestive enthusiasm".

    A way to get over it? Go out and buy some beige Buick Century or go get a Camry or Accord, for that matter. But, can you say, B-O-R-I-N-G!

    Okay, I agree with all of you, enough!
    __________________________________________________

    On another side, have any of you guys had door hinges that have gotten a little creaky? I notice it on certain doors when you open them and sprayed a little silicon spray on the hinges, and it seemed to help.

    How's the meet going guys? I guess that's a stupid question considering that's where you are now, but just being curious. I can't wait to see all the pics!!! Sdmike, take a lot!
  • beach15beach15 Member Posts: 1,305
    Thanks. Even though I was the main issue in what you wrote, that's fine. I've been wondering, but what do you drive yourself?
  • beach15beach15 Member Posts: 1,305
    Just to let you know, we do hope to trade the car in sometime this coming week. For what exactly, I'll post afterwards, but rest assured, it's something not at all like a 300M. I think Fastdriver may know from an email I sent him, but I'm not sure. I can't wait to hear the comments...I can just imagine now!!

    Fastdriver- Have you checked your email from the past week? If you know what I'm talking about above, shhh, we wouldn't like to let the suprise out, would we?
  • beach15beach15 Member Posts: 1,305
    -Any updates on the 300M die-cast car inquiry someone put in? We're big die-cast car collectors and I'd love to have a 300M to complement the others. I'd buy every color they'd make too!

    -Have any of you guys been in the Nags Head, NC area? We have a house booked there for a week this summer, and I was hoping to find ideas about what kind of stuff is there. Anyone been? I happen to have a special Automobile magazine issue just on different DC products and trips they took in different parts of the country. They had a 1999 Platinum & PHP 300M that they took to Nags Head & the Outer Banks.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    beach15 - what do I drive? Hey, that's top secret info, and if I told you I'd have to ki.., well you get the idea! ;->

    Pat
    Host
    Sedans Message Board
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Member Posts: 1,116
    I'll bet its an Acura --right? just stay away from the S version--you dont want any tranny problems---rattles are one thing--power train probs are major headaches---

    Whatever you pick--wishing you good luck with your new ride--

    Easyrider
  • uxca300muxca300m Member Posts: 155
    Pat said:The tax issue is not exactly on topic, so let me ask that we don't talk about that
    any more. It is indeed off-topic and since some of us are annoyed by it, let's just let it go.

    Pat- I initiated that post re: my tax rebate and what I could spend it on for my M. There were several follow messages that were funny and were on topic regarding the 300M and the implications of what to do with the refund. I have no idea where you get off by saying that this was off topic and,"was annoying to some of us"-Name one other person besides yourself that felt this way. As you said in the your above noted post if it annoys you, then skip it.I suggest that you do a lot of skipping as we have a lot of fun here and may digress a little once in a while but still us guys and girls on the board are human and like to have a little fun once in awhile.

    Perhaps you would like to see more mundane messages like:

    I have a new 300M . It Is red. It has black tires. I put gas in it and drive it. Sometimes it gets dirty so I wash it. I had a rattle but fixed it by taking out $9.85 worth of change that was in my glove compartment. Have you ever had a flat tire? How do you fix it? My headlights come on when its dark outside. Neat hey?

    Pat- loosen up a bit.
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