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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think that vehicle might be misplaced from somewhere in the south???
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I guess pozole was already taken.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    On the road a little today - seemed to be more cops than normal out. No such thing as quotas some say, just a coincidence with today being the 31st, I am sure :)
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    End of the month quota's - surely you jest ;)
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Road trip (well, short day trip) to the Mission Trail in El Paso, featuring the lovely border drive going east out of the city south of the Interstate.


  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    I know that area, stever, watch yourselves.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Oh, was that why traffic was light while I-10 a mile or so north was packed? B)

    Other odd thing was that the far left lane was a toll lane. Separated by a double white line.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    Were you east of town near Socorro - I have seen that toll lane on our way to and from the Socorro Entertainment Center just east of El Paso. That freeway runs just north of the Mexico - U.S. border from east to west generally and turns north when you're going west towards El Paso and connects to northbound 54 towards Alamogordo eventually.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Drove home this morning - no issues, quick border crossing, and I beat the "Snohomish Squeeze". Most exciting thing was this car fire on 405 near home. It was a mid 00s Jeep Commander:

    https://youtu.be/wlMfvAy4HlQ

    Lovely sunny day in Vancouver yesterday, and I am sure I had some good clips on bridges and in Stanley Park, but I forgot to retrieve them, now gone. I forgot how much of a pain it can be there, so few left turn lanes, what were they thinking? The honking and subdued rage comes out even in Canadians.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I drove to the place where I took this pic, so that counts...what a difference a day makes:

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  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    For Steve and all you camper types.

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited March 2016
    I like that - the standing joke around here is that we can always go live in our van down by the river.

    Then around the campfire you can talk about whether the poor slobs without meaningful work slaving away with a 40 minute commute are richer than the Gandhi types.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    I guess my hatred of camping came at an early age. I went camping in the Oregon rain as a Boy Scout. No tents just out under the non existent stars. In the middle of the night we packed up and found an old leaky barn to camp in. All I had was a Navy wool blanket. No down bags back then for poor folks. To top it off I got food poisoning from half cooked hamburger we hauled around all day without ice. I have had a few pleasant camping experiences since then. But they were darn few. Camping in AK even with Arctic type sleeping bags was miserable. Eddie Bauer said the bag was good to -40 degrees. I had wool socks and my wool underwear and still froze on one November Moose hunt. It was only -37 degrees. I prefer camping at the Hampton Inn.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    lol, but those are the trips that you remember!

    Every motel room pretty much looks like the last one, right down to the cooties and bedbugs.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Yeah, you remember them alright, just like a bad case of the flu or pneumonia. :p
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,617
    Camping is like boating. It's a lot of fun, if someone else has all the gear, and knows what they are doing. Otherwise, I'll pass.

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  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    This is more camping in style. If I ever decided to give up my McMansion for a road home, This would be near the top.

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    kyfdx said:

    Camping is like boating. It's a lot of fun, if someone else has all the gear, and knows what they are doing. Otherwise, I'll pass.

    My nephew is on a Grand Canyon trip right now for a few weeks. We did that a decade ago for three weeks. A decade before that we lived out of a canoe for three weeks on the Nahanni. Lots and lots of shorter trips between those long ones. Camping on a sandbar in the middle of nowhere is way more fun than McMansion camping.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    Think there's enough square footage there, Gary? B)

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,617
    stever said:

    kyfdx said:

    Camping is like boating. It's a lot of fun, if someone else has all the gear, and knows what they are doing. Otherwise, I'll pass.

    My nephew is on a Grand Canyon trip right now for a few weeks. We did that a decade ago for three weeks. A decade before that we lived out of a canoe for three weeks on the Nahanni. Lots and lots of shorter trips between those long ones. Camping on a sandbar in the middle of nowhere is way more fun than McMansion camping.
    See? I would go camping with you, Steve.

    But, you wouldn't want to go camping with me. ;)

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The trick for any of this stuff from the diesel pushers to the tenters is to take folding chairs. They even make 'em for backpacking.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    edited March 2016

    Think there's enough square footage there, Gary? B)

    I kind of liked the guest cottage being towed. I am just reading about GLAMPING.

    Traveling by RV is a great way to see America, and when money is no object, the experience can be more “glamping” than camping.

    http://www.generalrv.com/blog/10-luxurious-rv-resorts-america/

    Find your Glamorous Camping spot.

    http://www.glamping.com/
  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    stever said:

    The trick for any of this stuff from the diesel pushers to the tenters is to take folding chairs. They even make 'em for backpacking.

    I'm still waiting on my own Edmund's folding chair...

    Should I hold my breath?

    :D
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    gagrice said:

    I guess my hatred of camping came at an early age. I went camping in the Oregon rain as a Boy Scout. No tents just out under the non existent stars. In the middle of the night we packed up and found an old leaky barn to camp in. All I had was a Navy wool blanket. No down bags back then for poor folks. To top it off I got food poisoning from half cooked hamburger we hauled around all day without ice. I have had a few pleasant camping experiences since then. But they were darn few. Camping in AK even with Arctic type sleeping bags was miserable. Eddie Bauer said the bag was good to -40 degrees. I had wool socks and my wool underwear and still froze on one November Moose hunt. It was only -37 degrees. I prefer camping at the Hampton Inn.

    G'day

    I have not been a big fan of camping since I was about fifteen years old. My bushcraft is pretty good, schooled by my dad, a former soldier and Reservist Officer.

    In August 1974, I found myself as part of an Advanced Party for a planned Cadet Camp in the Mount Pilot forest in North Eastern Victoria. A Quartermaster, I had pitched my own hoochie, dry and warm, the open ends closed with plastic sheeting, drains dug all around on a small rise, to let any rain run off drain away. Our campsite was at the junction of three roads, to offer multiple redundancy. We had the main stores tent up, stoves fixed and coffee organised. The first day was sunny and warm.

    Then it started to rain. I am not talking mist, gentle showers or even continuing rainfall. This was Great Flood, Noah's Ark launching downpours. It started in the evening and kept on, and on, and on, and on. On the following day, an Army Semi Trailer with two 20' containers with all the serious gear for the camp, slipped off one of the access roads. In quick succession, five other trucks became bogged , each (with the semi trailer) creating two separate blockages about a mile apart on each of the three access tracks.

    We had army ration packs sufficient for about three days for the thirty of us, including teachers (officers). All of us had little extra stores in our packs (I had a fruit-cake) which we pooled. Several kids even had illicit alcohol which was very welcome, even if we were underage.

    I never want to see a KP pack again. Dad had found himself, during the New Guinea campaign, seconded to lead some US Army outfit, where proximity to Japanese snipers made cooking impossible. He retained a perpetual loathing of peanut butter and jelly; I sympathise and never want to see "Dog Biscuits" or processed cheese, again.

    At some point, the army arranged the delivery to one of the blocked roads of a supply of hot dog buns and sausages which some wonderful blokes carried back to camp, past the two bogged trucks on that track. That is another culinary delight that I've scratched from my menu.

    The main camp was cancelled but those of us already there were stranded. I have now happily forgotten how long, but it was about a week before the Army got a Mack 27.5 tonne (42 years later, I still recall its capacity, precisely) wrecker in from Bandianna to haul out the bogged trucks. The gouges in the road from the Semi Trailer were filled with water and looked like a long deed stock trough; it was past axle deep. After extricating the trucks from one track, the wrecker pulled into our camp, for an attempted three point turn. This did not go well.

    The wrecker, once partially turned, attempted to move forward. Gravity, and the slick clay covered road, had other ideas. Inexorably, as the whole camp watched, it slid down the slope, off the road and into the creek. This process took some minutes, to the wondrous fascination of every watching teenage boy and the humiliation of the Regular Army guys who had, only minutes earlier, felt rightly proud of their manly skills. I have always regretted that none of us had a camera.

    We quickly discovered that a heavy wrecker, bogged deep in a creek, cannot haul itself out on its own winch. It was a useful mechanical lesson to us all as the shear pin in the winch repeatedly sheared, protecting the winch from mechanical damage. After several self rescue attempts, the Regular Army guys were pretty upset.

    It was about this stage that a much older teacher (this was a very posh school, the best in Australia, so we called them Masters) stepped forward. He was the Cadet Corp Adjutant and I had always assumed (from his florid face) an Alcoholic. He was, however a WW II veteran of note, and a Physics Teacher. He understood vectors and forces. Very coolly, he pulled rank (NCO's ultimately bend to old duffers when they have three bars of ribbons (some with little ornaments on the colours), even if they are in their sixties). He then attached a tiny 2.5 tonne International truck to offset the slewed force from the wrecker's winch and it popped back out of the creek, using its last sheer pin. The Wrecker's crew refused coffee, slinking off back to Bandianna and praying no-one mentioned their rescue.

    A day or two later, we could break camp, although we still had to march out with our gear, about five miles to a bus, back to school.

    The icing on the cake was getting back to the Boarding House, muddy, cold and unwashed, to find there was no water for a shower. My enthusiasm for camping ended about there.

    Give me clean sheets, hot water and heating.

    Cheers

    Graham


  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited March 2016
    I'm still waiting on my own Edmund's folding chair...

    Should I hold my breath?

    Hey, if you get one, I get one too! Now children. :D I don't care who's coming or going where, I want an Edmunds folding chair. Maybe it'll take some of that drive away to go after that '62 Dodge Dart 440 with the slant 6-225 c.i. motor with automatic pushbutton transmission. With the upside down front grille and weird window out the back. What a goofy looking car that grows on you after looking at it for a while.

    Reminds me of this little sedan made by Mazda and sold by Scion. Sort of.

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  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Graham, I bow to your camping experience. Great story and I am sure ingrained in your memory like mine.
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098

    gagrice said:

    I guess my hatred of camping came at an early age. I went camping in the Oregon rain as a Boy Scout. No tents just out under the non existent stars. In the middle of the night we packed up and found an old leaky barn to camp in. All I had was a Navy wool blanket. No down bags back then for poor folks. To top it off I got food poisoning from half cooked hamburger we hauled around all day without ice. I have had a few pleasant camping experiences since then. But they were darn few. Camping in AK even with Arctic type sleeping bags was miserable. Eddie Bauer said the bag was good to -40 degrees. I had wool socks and my wool underwear and still froze on one November Moose hunt. It was only -37 degrees. I prefer camping at the Hampton Inn.

    ...

    Give me clean sheets, hot water and heating.

    Cheers

    Graham


    Graham,
    That takes me back to my USAF days, we were a tactical radar squadron and always ended up in pup tents. There are certain rations I could simply not eat, although fruitcake was OK. It was most of the meat dishes I couldn't stand. Our C-Ration meals were at least 10 years old at the time.

    But anyway, these days, hot water and showers are exactly what camping is all about. Just shell out some serious cash, and take your hot water, food, and living comfort on the road. I had my experience with that in the early '70s with my dad. It was fun, but never fun enough for me to consider it as a "grown up".

    Plus, those rigs take a LOT of gas, and it isn't 25 cents a gallon like it was back then.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Plus, those rigs take a LOT of gas, and it isn't 25 cents a gallon like it was back then.

    That is one of my issues with the big RVs. That 6-9 MPG does not fit my agenda. Our MB Cruiser we had a little over a year did get decent mileage. As much as 25 MPG on the highway. Still never spent a night in it. So it was a waste of money. My simple math tells me I would have to spend more than 100 nights a year in a Hampton Inn to justify owning an RV again. And that does not include depreciation on the vehicle. If it was small enough to use as a daily driver like the VW California diesel, it would be an option.
  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    gagrice said:

    Plus, those rigs take a LOT of gas, and it isn't 25 cents a gallon like it was back then.

    That is one of my issues with the big RVs. That 6-9 MPG does not fit my agenda. Our MB Cruiser we had a little over a year did get decent mileage. As much as 25 MPG on the highway. Still never spent a night in it. So it was a waste of money. My simple math tells me I would have to spend more than 100 nights a year in a Hampton Inn to justify owning an RV again. And that does not include depreciation on the vehicle. If it was small enough to use as a daily driver like the VW California diesel, it would be an option.

    Yep, I agree.

    For a long time, my wife wanted an RV(she grew up in a family that had truck/campers and RVs), but it never penciled out with the price of gas. I would tell her we can drive our car(roughly 30MPG), and stay in a pretty nice place for what the RV would cost.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,617
    My wife already informed me that if she is cooking, it isn't vacation.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    Ah, the stories! Graham, that was a great one! It really brought back a lot of camping / cadet experiences for me, so thanks (none of mine are *nearly* that fun, but I'm not too upset about that! :p).

    My father is really into the RV life. I enjoyed it growing up, but my wife came to the same conclusion as @slorenzen above.... RVs don't pencil out if you're just using them for the occasional vacation! So, car camping it is (and, yes, some of the campgrounds can be pricey!).

    Our five-week transcontinental trip three years ago worked out to about $5K total, which includes ~28 nights of lodging (including three in a little cottage on the Oregon coast), food, admissions to all venues, gasoline/maintenance for the 12.5K miles, etc. In other words, all expenses included. In an RV, just the fuel would have been close to that cost, and the lodging (campgrounds / RV parks) would still need to be paid!
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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Back in the good old days, especially up your way @xwesx and across much of Canada, the best camping spots were down some dirt road or in a gravel borrow pit just off the highway. Free and no neighbors.

    You can still find a lot of that in most national forests.
  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    edited March 2016
    stever said:

    Back in the good old days, especially up your way @xwesx and across much of Canada, the best camping spots were down some dirt road or in a gravel borrow pit just off the highway. Free and no neighbors.

    You can still find a lot of that in most national forests.

    Lots of abandoned gravel pits near me, but we use them for target practice.

    Some of them would be a challenge to get an RV into the area.

  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Just spent a most enjoyable 4 days in AZ. Drove over on the route to Cottonwood that takes you on a loop around Phoenix. Lots of construction with single lane. About 7 hours with a stop in Yuma for diesel and a bite of breakfast. Tried Burger King egg thingy. I know why I avoid BK. Weather was perfect the whole trip. Stayed at the AZ Pines in Cottonwood. Clean and reasonable price. Found several thrift shops for my wife. Tuesday we rode the Verde Valley Train. Very relaxing trip. Kind of expensive in 1st class, but well worth it. I tried loading short Video clips and it says not allowed.

    Wednesday we looked the surrounding area over and then spent a most enjoyable evening at the Blazin' M Ranch. Big BBQ dinner and a fun show.


    We returned this morning by way of Jerome and Prescott. Filled at Costco for $1.76 for diesel. Has not been even close to that cheap for decades. Return trip was much prettier drive. Winding roads but still an hour less time. Very little traffic.

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited April 2016
    Thanks for the update, gagrice. I just love AZ and miss living there. We're thinking of retiring in someplace like Willcox, Benson, Vail or Tucson. We prefer Tucson to Phoenix. You guys had a cool trip, excellent!

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    edited April 2016
    Nice!

    If you want to load video, you need to post it to a site like YouTube (it can be unlisted vs. public there), then post the embedded link into your post here.
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  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    edited April 2016
    Thanks for the tip on uploading Videos. Never have loaded anything onto U-Tube. I may give it a try. Here are some stills from the Verde Valley RR trip. The train is about the only way to see the Verde Valley. It is also a protected Bald Eagle nesting place. We saw many bald eagles and one sitting on a nest. Also many ancient cave dwellings.



    The train has open air cars that all the passenger cars have access to. Several turns you can see the front of the train stretched around a curve.



    We were there just as the trees were getting their leaves and the river is at its lowest. It is the beginning of their rainy period.


  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I've always enjoyed desert scenery. Thanks
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    Those are great. I absolutely love Arizona.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Drove to and from Bellingham yesterday for work - surprisingly easy drive even when coming back at the end of the commute. The only fly in the ointment - LLCs. Plenty of them on 5 and 405 yesterday, Also lots of WSP presence in the morning,
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    Renting a Uhaul trailer to move furniture and some power equipment(lawn mower, snow blower) out to Ohio.
    Will be first time towing with the F 150, dropping the trailer off out there.
    It's about 550 miles each way.
    My daughter just bought a house, so we get to get rid of a bunch of stuff. :)
    Also driving out the 2013 Escape which is going to my other daughter. She's flying in to Ohio from Wisconsin to pick it up.
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    Sounds like fun! The added complexity always makes for a more memorable trip. :)
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @xwesx,
    My truck is rated @15/21 and has a 36 gallon tank, so theoretically I won't have to stop for fuel.
    Rented a 5x8 single axle trailer, but my wife has me thinking about upgrading to a 5x10 double axle. :)
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    I drove a 2015 Ram 1500 last weekend (well, nearly two weekends ago) down to Palmer, and ended up with over 21 mpg average after about 750 miles. I was pretty surprised (I think it had the 5.7L hemi), and just the fuel saved versus driving my truck (gets about 11mpg on the highway) paid for half of the rental fee.

    Kinda poor because I was just waving the iPod around blindly to shoot this, but Denali was gorgeous through Broad Pass on the way up that Friday.....


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1eSae8tPQI

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Looks like good ol' Chulitna River country. :)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    Back from my trip to Ohio.
    Next time I need a lower tow bar, but towing was easy(5x8 trailer).
    Towing the trailer, 560 miles in 9 hours.
    Averaged 13.7 through the first fill up. Still had 6 gallons remaining, but not enough to make the whole trip without needing fuel.
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  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Oregon trip, going very well so far. First night Hampton Inn Red Bluff, CA. Then the very beautiful 153 mile drive from Red Bluff to the coast on State Rd 36. First hour on met one other car from 7-8 AM. Spent last night at the Gold Beach Inn. From the Lanai.

  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    gagrice said:

    Oregon trip, going very well so far. First night Hampton Inn Red Bluff, CA. Then the very beautiful 153 mile drive from Red Bluff to the coast on State Rd 36. First hour on met one other car from 7-8 AM. Spent last night at the Gold Beach Inn. From the Lanai.

    Ping me when you're in town, Gary.

  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    edited May 2016
    Spent the day driving leisurely up the coast. Filled at my favorite 76 station in Bandon Oregon, $2.12 for diesel. After looking over the town of Coquille for possible future home we drove to Shore Acres State botanical gardens. The Rhodedendrons were in full color. What a beautiful place to spend a few hours. Great ocean overlooks and the flower gardens. All for the $5 parking permit. Yes those are seals on the rocks. And my new favorite color of Rhodedendron.





  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Last two days have been perfect 80 degrees all along the coast. Clouding up to rain for our trip tomorrow from Florence to Cottage Grove. I recommend the Best Western in Florence, Oregon. Full on breakfast to order, and the best chocolate chip and oatmeal cookies fresh from the oven every night. View across the bay from our lanai.

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