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They have one single sedan and if I can wait 1-2 hours I can test drive it. There were people in line to drive it! Wow...they said the next 5 or so 5 door models and pre-sold!
I'll go back later, but I did sit in the sedan, a stripped base model, 5 speed manual, the only option auto dimming mirrors.
Thoughts, first the bad...
Plastic wheel covers on the base model look cheap, I'd like to see Subaru make alloys standard across the board. I get that it's needed for the $18k price tag, but still.
Also had the plastic plugs where fog lights should be.
Inside - the headliner is peach fuzz, and the sun visor is a durable but cheap plastic. A few of the plastic surfaces in the door panel and center console also disappointed a little.
I guess I can't think of any other $18k car that's any better, to be fair.
Now the good.
Sedan's styling looks much better in person, up close. You gotta see it in the flesh to appreciate it, it looks swoopier than in photos.
Rear legroom is good. Very good toe room under the front seats. Very comfy for two, though head room on the sedan is limited. I was wearing a hat, but still. Reminds me of the Mazda6, which also has a swoopy roof.
Love the soft touch dash top, big plus. Cup holders are better shaped than our Forester, too. The cloth seats were comfy and supportive and had more than enough leg room, in fact I would not set it all the way back and I'm 6' tall.
I like the textures on the A-pillar, and the padded arm rests, and think they should make ALL surfaces match this nice grain.
Trunk is lined, decent size, but I'd still opt for the 5 door.
Overall not bad at all for $18k. I'd love to see a Premium or Limited model to see what upgrades it gets. The base/stripped model seems a little cheap, but then again $18k *IS* cheap.
Not quite. The sedan was nearly a foot longer than the hatchback: 168.8" vs. 157.1".
Now, if you meant the WAGON Civic instead of the "hatchback", that was longer than the hatchback... but still shorter (161.7") than the sedan.
It's clear Subaru doesn't plan to sell many base models (otherwise they would make features like cruise at least available if not standard), and put some decent-looking wheel covers on it.
Went by Frederick today...they had two sedans and one sport 5dr on the lot....all were pretty basic models...the one sedan did have the moonroof
I Have 2 kids and besides the litte bit extra trunk its about the same size. I'm getting 19 city on my crv and maybe 22 for short highway runs, just not happy with the crv. going to wait a bit till winters over and see if they come down on the price a bit.
"Thanks for the reply. The sunroof kills it for me, as I don't fit in most sunroof equipped vehicles.
The info about the nav/satellite radio I got right off of the Edmund's product pages, but the information is also in the owner's manual.
I'm hoping to hear some rumors about the XV CrossTrek, see if it corrects any of the Impreza's deficiencies in packaging and/or gets about the same FE. I like the look better and a jacked up Impreza should still have a lower center of gravity than a Focus or Mazda3, and should still handle nice. That should get me past winter, which gives me more time to pay down my Elantra Touring a bit (making the sunroof and nav viable), and after winter dealers might budge just a little more on pricing.
Cars on my list (by size) and are all 2012's:
1. Honda Fit EX
2. Kia Forte5 SX
3. Subaru Impreza Sport 5dr (haven't decided which trim yet.)
4. Mazda 5 Touring
5. Kia Sportage
6. Honda CR-V
7. Toyota Rav-4
I originally had the Pilot, 4Runner, Ridgeline, and 4dr Wrangler on the list, but with the prices up closer to 40k and horrible mileage, they dropped off really quick.
Going back further, 2002 and earlier models had head gasket issues, 2001 and prior had fragile wheel bearings, but not a whole lot since.
We kept a 1998 Forester for 9 years, and a 2002 Legacy for 7 years. Getting our 3rd Subaru was an easy choice, and it hasn't seen the dealer once besides scheduled maintenance.
My salesman jokes that I come visit him only once every 7 years. To buy another.
Deep Cherry Red is available in all 4 or 5 dr Base, Premium, or Limted; everything except Sport Premium and Sport Limited.
So is that with CVT or MT?
How was the negotiation? Did you feel like pulling teeth with the dealers to get that or was it pretty easy?
No pulling teeth at all. I got an otd price from one dealer first. I made absolutely sure this was his lowest price before I went to another. The other dealer said he can beat it by $100. I had it in writing and ordered teh car.
Either someone swapped the wheels onto a non-Sport (did it have roof rails?) or it was really Camellia Red, not Deep Cherry. Did you notice the interior color? Camellia Red has black interior, Deep Cherry has ivory interior.
What's VCR??? I assume that's with CVT and Out-the-Door price?
BTW, where are you located? That's sounds like a really good price.
Thanks for input