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Mazda Protegé



  • theparallaxtheparallax Posts: 361
    My car has 22% tint up front and 16% rear. Here's a side view pic of the car if you want to see what it looks like:

    I don't have any problems seeing out of the car at night, but that's just me. Besides, the benefits of tint outweigh the disadvantages. I absolutely cannot stand having sun glaring in my face while driving, and it gets extremely hot without tint inside the car after leaving it somewhere for a while. Go for it, Paul!

  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    here's the exact link for the Ford auto purchase plan

    I am wondering if I could have bought my Protege with this back in Decmeber.. oh well.. no use crying over spilt milk.. except the milk i spill from too much zooming around the corners!!!

  • horkpchorkpc Posts: 1
    If you drove a ZX3 in Panama City, it had a tilt steering wheel as part of the premium package. I'm a little surprised the salesman didn't know about it, but they have a lot of LX models without the tilt wheel so that might explain it.

    I've driven the silver one they have (with the wild body kit) and adjusted it myself, and the red one also has the premium package. There's a big lever under the steering column to release it.

    As for Mazdas, I've had similar experiences with Buzz Leonard Mazda. They wouldn't participate in a national, Mazda sponsored lease deal back when I got my Millennia, so I went to Fort Wanton Beach (Quality Mazda).

    I'm not sure how Quality Mazda will be on dealing for Proteges, but I test drove an '01 ES auto there about a week ago and was very impressed with the car. The back seat is really hard though!

    I'm leaning toward the ZX3 because of the utility of the hatchback, but I'm hoping the Protege 5 door will arrive before my lease expires so I can check that out.

    Nice tint on the 99 LX, by the way! In this area it's a big help.

    Edit: The spelling checker really screws up trim levels, doesn't it? I think it's all fixed now.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I notice that the Black finish on my 2001 ES 2.0 is defined as "Black Mica" in the Mazda brochure. My question is this: What is the difference between metallic and mica paint? Also, I noticed that the door frames of my car are painted with the body color. They weren't like that on my DX. Are they like that with all colors, or just black?

    I probably will go for the tint, because I don't want the interior of the car getting hot as hell during the summer months. I got in the other day af ter parking it in the sun in 50-degree temps., and it was a little hot. Imagine if it were 100 outside! :) I heard this place on the radio advertising (it's near my house) and they guarantee their tinting against bubbling, scratching, turning purple, etc. I am probably going to try them. Typically, they charge $120-150 around here for tinting. Does that sound about right?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Could not view the page with the tint. Followed the link, and it said the page wasn't available.

    Focus: I like the Focus alot, but the seat is a bit uncomfortable to me. It's got to do with the lower back support or something. It just sucks. Also, the leg room is not enough for me either. The recalls scared me off too, and the question of the quality because of it being a Ford product. I will say, though, that my previous secretary (she recently left my company) has a 2000 Focus SE Sport sedan automatic with 13K on it in one year (and I know she doesn't care for it by the way it looks), and never had a problem but two of the recalls. So maybe they will turn out to be good cars, after the first year bugs are fixed in them.
  • theparallaxtheparallax Posts: 361
    I looked at the 2001 Red ZX3 and drove the leftover 2000 Green ZX3, since I can't drive a manual. I saw a silver ZX3 lined up right next to the highway. The red one does look sharp, with those alloy wheels. There was no tilt wheel option, I checked under the steering wheel and there was none. The salesman also said there was no tilt available for the ZX3. But I think there is, because the Ford website has it listed. Maybe it just didn't have that option on that particular car.

    I'm thinking about going to Quality Mazda the next time I want to buy a Mazda. I cannot stand Buzz Leonard's sales and service department. They've screwed me over about 3 times. They take too long to do simple things as oil changes. It took them about 3 hours the last time to do an oil change and tire rotation, and while I was there someone else was really having a fit with one of the service advisors. They also locked my keys in my car once.

    Vocus, try this link:

    I think Geocities has been messing up lately, so it should work now on the Tripod server.

  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    That tint is way too dark for my taste. I am going to try the 35% level, but nothing darker as of yet. I got into my car to go to lunch today (it's like 40 outside) and it was hot as hell in there. I had to crack the windows to cool it off. And it's 40 degrees outside. I can just imagine how it's gonna be this summer when it hits 100. I will be a roasted freaking chicken behind the wheel! :) At least, driving the Protege, I will roast with a smile on my face. :)

    PS: I got my ZOOM-ZOOM sticker in the mail yesterday, and am going to put it on the car somewhere soon. It looks real neat!
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Due to an unusual situation, I will be driving a Pro DX for the next 2 months. It's a shame that the car just lacks Zoom. I was supose to have an ES but it didn't work out so I hope my posts don't sound like Vocus' prior to two weeks ago. A Bonneville is still out of the question.

  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    how's this one? its a 20%, but I really recommend then if you don't want dark, to get a 35%. its the lightest and will still look dark outside looking in because of your interior, but it will give you the most light viewing out.

  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Nike: I like the tint, but like I said, I don't like driving behind real dark windows. Anyone know the % tint on SUVs? Like I said, I drove a PT Cruiser and thought its tint was too dark.

    I am still as happy as could be with my 2001 ES 2.0. :) I will turn 1000 miles on the odometer today on the way home from work. Redlined the car for the first time last night, and what fun it was! :)

  • nikecarnikecar Posts: 460
    I've seen tints all over the place on SUVs.. the light ones? I'd wager 35%
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    The ones you can order as options on the PT Cruiser. (I keep reverting to that specific vehicle, because that's the one I drove with dark tinted windows and did not like it.) I think, since they are trucks, they use deep-tinted glass. I would assume 35% would be sufficient for me.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    MG, I purchased both my 2000 PRO-ES's at Lancaster Toyota Mazda. A very nice and straight forward dealership. I took delivery of my Protege's with-in a month of each other, last Feb./March. I was able to negotiate a $300 over invoice(dealer cost) deal on both vehicles. With the $1000 customer rebate and the "thin" deal Lancaster Toyota Mazda excepted, I know a 2000 Honda EX would have cost me much, much more. The 2001 Honda Civic is a GREAT car, but I am sure a better deal on a 2001 PRO-ES can be had with just a little negotiating. S-plan or no S-plan, the 2001 Protege is a great value, and IMHO a better car than the Civic.

    I have lived in Lancaster for over 15 years and my family really likes it here. I think "Chico" Nick, a regular here at Edmunds Mazda Protege discussion lives out your way and might have some input on Mazda Dealers in your area. BTW, I have relatives who live in Springfield, PA. Is Springfield near you?

  • I am going to buy An ES stick shift silver Protege soon. 0% saves a lot. However, my dealer is insisting on only going $100 under teh sticker price. He is giving me a front mask, cargo net and moon roof wind deflector. No other silver cars are available in my area (Albany, NY). Is this price way out of line?
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    You can probably do much better. Hop on the S-Plan bandwagon. You may want to go back to the Mazda Protege ES vs. Daewoo Nubira CDX vs. Honda Civic EX forum for the responses to your post. The cargo net and wind deflector are worth a total of $60 (invoice).
  • norcannorcan Posts: 72
    Got my new 2001 AS with auto, 6-CD changer and after-market remote-start/immobilize (dealer installed) on Feb.27. Zoom Zoom!
    My previous vehicle was a 1990 CChefCorsica, so perhaps you can imagine my enjoyment I'm having just going around corners!
    Of course it snowed 23 cecentimesust after I got it, which made me extremely nervous. Found no problems in ice/snow conditions.

    I've read with great interest all the previous posts, and I look forward to hearing from other Canadian owners. There seems to be
    model differences between Canada / USA, US to mention pricing differences.

    I bought the Protege after considering the VW GolfWVI can't get in the back seat and $6,000 CDN+), CANaru Impreza Sport Wagon ($$$$+),
    Civic and Focus. I didn't think of these really came close to the complete package I got with the Mazda.

    Is it just me or does this car seem bigger on the inside than how it looks on the outside?
    What a fun car to drive!

  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    Congratulations. Can I assume that some program running in the background caused your keyboard to skip? Or was that part-French? Just kidding.
  • norcannorcan Posts: 72
    Looks like what we call 'franglais'. That's the last time I use the spellcheck. The edit function didn't work either.
    Try again - Chev Corsica, 23 centimetres and ..not to mention...
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    Pacifico-Mazda in philadelphia automall is the way to go. Great dealership. no hassles. very intimate service dept.
  • mjg222mjg222 Posts: 5
    Larry, I live about 10 minutes from Springfield. Is Lancaster Mazda on route 30? I drive up there about once a month, and maybe I'll check them out.

    Thanks Chikoo! I called Pacifico Mazda today, and they will honor the S-Plan. At this time, they don't have any ES models in with the Premium package. I think the $750 rebate expires at the end of the month. Does anyone know if it will be extended?
  • Yes, you can get Protege via S-Plan pricing at Arlington Mazda. I got my 2001 ES from them about 4 weeks ago. I suggest you identify the car you want before you tell them you are entitled to S-Plan.
    I dealt with a guy named Tim Folwaczny, and would recommend him. I believe he handles most of their buying service customers. Tim seems like a decent guy. I have had a long-running personal boycott of all Rosenthal dealerships, but made an exception for this purchase (they were the only dealer in town to have an auto ES with the options I wanted). I was relatively pleased with the experience -- no hassle on the S-Plan pricing, but I had to "firmly remind" them about the $750 rebate, which at first they tried to pretend didn;t apply to 2001's or might not apply for SPlan purchases. However, thry were very low key on the financing/extended warranty/rustproofing/LoJack pitches - no pushback when I said no thanks to all.
    If you do go to see Tim, tell him Barry sent you!
  • borgf15borgf15 Posts: 29
    Wow, you guys are all talking about tint now...
    I just got tint on the ES today as a matter of fact! I got the Llumar tint 35% front 18% rear. I think it looks good and I'd post a picture for vocus but I don't have a dig camera. We're taking a trip next week and I can probably post a picture after that. I can't really tell much of a difference between the 35% and 18%. I really expected there to be a bigger difference between the two. I paid $147 for it which was the cheapest i could find (in the small town i live in) for tint with lifetime warranty.
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    Identify the car you want before you tell them you are entitled to S-Plan? That's funny (the dealer, not you). So you think they might "hide" the cars? Yes. Rosenthal does have a "well-deserved" reputation.
  • bhortonbhorton Posts: 5
    I just bought a 2001 pro ES with the premium package, A/T and tape deck added.I had it built to order,it took 6 weeks to get here. Picked it up on Friday, March the 3rd.I was very glad to see it arrive. I bought it for a fair price at 17,500 at 0% for 48 months. I have 235 miles on just before it died. I was doing 35 mph when this terrible racket came from the car. The car lost all power. I didn't realize you lose your brakes and have a heck of a time steering. I ended up using my emergency brake to stop the car and got it safely off to the side of the road. Needless to say I wasn't to happy with the situation and didn't know what had gone wrong. I tried starting it to no avail. I called Mazda and had it towed in. Mazda didn't have any idea what could of happened until they got under the hood. They put me in a rental. I got a call later tonight from the service manager. He said they got right on the car. He stated the car will need a new motor. He found where a bolt came loose or was over tighten and broke inside the engine. This piece of bolt proceeded to tear out a valve and do other damage. He said he had never seen anything like it. He is going to order a new engine for the car. He further stated the dealership wanted to make things right and the manager from sales will be calling me to see what it will take. He said you can get a brand new car, a different model or my money back. I will have to think on this for a day. I have had four Mazdas before this. I really like their product but this has made me really nervous. If the bolt was over tighten was it by hand or machine. If machine what is there to say the other ES's won't have the same problem. Has anyone else ever heard of or had this problem before. I need to make a decision soon. If anyone can help with any good advice it would be appreicated.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Brent, that is very bad karma. I would be in shock, if I was in your shoes. However, I think taking your time is a very good thing. Relax, it seems the dealer is giving you plenty of options. My 2 cents; I would go for the money back. I am a huge fan of Mazda, nonetheless this is very bad karma.

    Good Luck;
  • Larry, et all,
    I gave you the fax number for Dry Wash 'N Guard by mistake. The number is (702)262-5555. Tell them you want to try it. It is such a good product.
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    wowzee, that's bad. If that happened to my ES when I bought it, personally I would be so scared of Mazda I would never buy another one. I would say get your money back and get a different car, for your own peace of mind I guess...

    It's bad to lose a Protege owner like this, but I understand.

  • jk111jk111 Posts: 125
    Oh man, that is terrible. I don't think anyone of us had a problem this extreme. I think your case is probably one out of 20,000. If you feel real uncomfortable about this, maybe you should try and get your money back.
  • sfratsfrat Posts: 205
    Wow, that's terrible. What is comforting is the way that the dealer is treating this whole situation. I would say that if you like the car, and have had good luck with your other Mazda's, go ahead and get another one. What happened to yours sounds like it was a real fluke. Anyway, that's just my two cents. No matter what car you buy, there's always a chance that you can get a dud.

    BTW, I have a 2001 ES 5spd with 700 miles on the clock, had it about three weeks, with no problems, runs great. I know there are a couple of other 01's, not that many because they are so new, but no one else has had any problems that I can recall.

    Good Luck with your decision.

  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    For those interested in discussing the 2002 Mazda Protege hatchback, here's a direct link to the new Mazda Protege - 5 door (2002) discussion on the Hatchbacks Message Board.

    Happy Motoring. ;-)

    Hatchbacks Message Board

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