Mazda Protegé

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  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    should I go for Aleve or Vioxx?
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    for temporary squeak relief.

    it's just rubber bushing hardening during cold weather.
  • neesieneesie Member Posts: 13
    I have decided to get rid of my 99 Mazda Protégé. It has been a royal pain since the day I drove it off the dealer’s lot. Although, I will admit, it has never actually broken down but the many noises it makes is a pain. After four years I can no longer take all the pings, grinding, squeaks and scratching or what ever the noises is called. I am concerned that one day I will have a major problem and the mechanics still will not know the problem. I will never purchase or recommend a Mazda Protégé or a Mazda vehicle again.
  • meinradmeinrad Member Posts: 820
    10000 to 1 in our favor!
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Are you being sarcastic?

    As "meinard" said it's still 10000-1.

    Dinu
  • meinradmeinrad Member Posts: 820
    I saw a snow flurry today!!!!!!!!!!!
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Well, I love Proteges so much that I traded in my 2001 LX 2.0 for a 2003 ES-GT. I thought I liked the Pro before, but I really love this ES-GT!! I got the 3M film put on the hood and side mirrors and the dealer is giving me some extra for the fog lights. I also got the rear windows tinted 20% and got the dealer to throw in locking wheel nuts and rear mudguards.

    I never had any major problems with the LX, but the low financing rate that Mazda Canada is offering was too good to pass up.

    Not only that, but when I was in negotiations, I told my buddy about the MSP and he came along with me and traded in his 2002 Altima for a Titanium Gray MSP! He says he likes the MSP tons more than his Altima!

    Anyway, happy zooming to all!
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    I think the ES GT is a steal right now! If only I was done school...

    Congrast and happy motoring! And be careful with those alloys! No more hubcaps now:)

    Dinu
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Yikes!

    It's getting pretty cold here too. Another winter...

    Dinu
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    Brrr, we went from winter 2003 in March to Fall with no summer. It rained from March up to the third week in August -- over 60-inches. Almost 3-meters, Dinu.

    Nessie? Hmm I knew a "Nessie" on another forum, could this be the same? I'm also from Virginia.

    Sorry your '99 didn't turn out, give Mazda another chance. Most dealers use the first 12 months to get the rattles and squeaks out. My 2001 didn't have any and still doesn't. Maybe the roads you travel aren't in the best shape?

    fowler3
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    And congrats PF! And you won over a convert to boot! Cool all around.

    My Protege is approaching 46,000 miles since I got it in Jan '99. Been pretty great, though I admit my wif'es '03 P5 definitely corners flatter and has more oomph. A stiffer chassis and suspension and a torquier engine will do that though. Oh well, bought a bit early in the model's life cycle, but I still love it too much to part with it. :)
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Thanks!

    I also forgot to say that I got the g/f's sister to get a silver ES-GT as well. She lives w/ us right now b/c she's going to school. So right now, there are 2 ES-GT's at my house! :D
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  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    I plan on adding a 3 by next summer, so we'll have 2 Mazdas too!

    Did I say I love the ES-GT?

    Dinu
  • neesieneesie Member Posts: 13
    No, I was not being sarcastic (#22693). And yes I have been to several other forums with questions about lovely Protégé – now I am being sarcastic.

    I have owned several vehicles and only this one has been a pain. I don’t know if mileage accounts for the noise but I have 64,452 miles on the car. Maybe that is a lot for a 99 Protégé but I live in Virginia where traffic is heavy. I am just amazed that so many love there Protégé, I must be missing something. While driving it today, the cassette player started making major cracking and static noises. (Yes, I still use a cassette play – I listen to books on tape while stuck in traffic.) I guess now I will have to get a new cassette player. If it is not one thing it is another. I may have to join the SUV club?
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Neesie, I think if you'd like some help with the issues you are having, the good folks here would be more than happy to try to assist.

    It seems like you've had problems with your Protege since you first bought it - if you are thinking of replacing it with another vehicle, the Town Hall has lots of resources that you will find helpful in making a replacement decision. Check out the tabs above for all kinds of info on new and used cars, as well as great tips and advice.

    It is true that most of the folks who hang out here report excellent experiences with their Proteges. I suppose that you may be just the victim of bad luck.

    Anyway, like I say, if you would like the folks here to try to help you with the issues you are having, all you have to do is ask. On the other hand, if your purpose is to continue to make the point that you are unhappy and need to make another decision, we hear you on that and wish you well. It's not necessary to belabor the point.

    :-)

    Good luck!
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Like Pat said, you got questions, we'll be happy to help you, so let us know, ok?

    Dinu
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    If a head-cleaning doesn't fix it, your connector cable between the tape player and the head unit may have come loose, or some corrosion may have formed between the pins and sockets. Unplug them and reseat them. That may help.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Are the pings, rattles and other noises you're talking about related to the cassette player and/or interior, or are these noises coming from under the car or under the hood? If they're coming from outside, have you taken the car in to have it looked at? Maybe it's nothing more than a loose heat shield (which you can fix yourself) or something like that. Have you kept up your routine maintenance, including the 30,000 and 60,000-mile major services? Some of the "pings" you mention -- if they're coming from under the hood -- can be caused by worn spark plugs that need replacing every 30,000 miles. If they're coming from your door, there's an easy way to solve door squeaks with double-sided foam tape.

    Frankly, I think you're being a little hard on the car. For having just a noisy cassette player after 64,000 miles, you're doing pretty doggone well. We had to unload my wife's Chevy Cavalier because, at the ripe old age of 52,000 miles, it was on its third $600 head gasket and this one was leaking coolant like a sieve. My Dad raves about his 1997 Buick Riviera -- a 30,000 car back then -- and he doesn't see a problem with the fact that he's had to replace engine pulleys to the tune of $300 a pop twice in 70,000 miles. He's also on his third alternator in the car.

    Not many people can brag that their engines have had zero problems in 65,000 miles -- but interestingly, Protege owners, from what I've seen here, can.

    My Protege is a 2000 ES and, even though my car is a year newer than yours, I have 65,000 miles on it (and I live in Virginia too). Even so, I have had zero problems with the car.

    Tell us a little more about your rattles and noises, and I'm sure the brain trust here can help you solve them.

    Meade
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Member Posts: 1,265
    Sell it and buy a new 2003 Subaru Forester.

    -lk
  • meinradmeinrad Member Posts: 820
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I can remember back when I had my 99 Protege DX. The door panels where the power window switches are in the higher-level models used to squeak in the cold. I got some white lithium grease from Pep Boy's ($2 a can, if I remember correctly) and sprayed it in there. No more problems after that.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    How 'bout a 2004???

    Meade
  • steven39steven39 Member Posts: 636
    well, i have had my pro es for about 1 month so far and its been very good. it feels so solid and rides like a much more expensive car infact, people say it looks like a bmw its silver in color and i get alot of stares from people as well as compliments on how nice the car looks.not bad for a car that cost me 17500 bucks out the door.what really impresses me though is how stable this car is on the highway at high speed.it does not get blown around by high winds or when a semi truck passes me unlike the toyota corolla i test drove before i got the protege. the corolla got blown all over the highway at any speed even when a motorcycle passed me i still got blown around.the totota salesman told me that this was due to the corrolas high stance off the ground.anyway the fuel economy was not the best when i first got the car although it is improving somewhat. i still only have about 800 miles on the car as of this posting so hopefully as i put more miles on it the fuel economy will improve as well. steve
  • kaiserheadkaiserhead Member Posts: 166
    Has anyone slapped down a deposit for a Mazda3 yet. I'm debating between a loaded Mazda3 (w/ leather) and a Cooper S.
  • wongpreswongpres Member Posts: 422
    Yes, I know a couple of people in both US and Canada who have put down a deposit for a Mazda3.
  • moparbadmoparbad Member Posts: 3,870
    Is there any relationship between 2.0 L in 03 Protege and the 2.0 L engine in 03 Ford Focus? Do Ford and Mazda share any parts? Just wondering.
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Member Posts: 1,007
    ... those engines are very different.

    The first real engine sharing is going to be the awesome 2.3l I-4 that is in the M6, and now soon the M3, and also Ford Rangers and some Focus-es. Its a great engine, with decent low-end, lots of spunk and VERY rev happy. Take my word for that or go test drive it!
  • bluong1bluong1 Member Posts: 1,927
    fom http://europe.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=5024

    [ ...
     The defect was found inside a sensor in the engine that could lead to a short-circuit and stop the engine from working. There have been no reports of accidents caused by the problem. ...

    The recall affects many popular cars manufactured between 1998 and May 2003, including the Sunny, March, Cube, Primera, Presage, X-Trail, Skyline and Fairlady Z, as well as two cars built for Subaru-maker Fuji Heavy Industries and Mazda Motor Corp. on an OEM (original equipment manufacturer) basis ...]

    It seems it concerns Mazda Familia, aka Japanese Protegé(5). I'm not sure which market cars are specifically concerned. I have just sent an email to MazdaUSA and request the information.

    Bruno
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/survey_2003/06/

    (model - score - overall ranking)

    1. Mazda 323 - 88.1 - 9
    2. Toyota Corolla (older - pre-Dec 01) - 86.4 - 22
    3. Honda Civic (new) - 85.7 - 28
    4. Honda Civic (older - pre-Dec 00) - 85.5 - 29
    5. BMW 3-Series (Compact) - 85.2 - 32

    Dinu
  • moparbadmoparbad Member Posts: 3,870
    I was hoping that the motor/platform would be very similar between the Focus and Protege.
    A powertrain from wrecked Focus SVT became available. Very inexpensive and I was thinking it would be a very nice combination in the Protege LX I have. Darn.
  • bluong1bluong1 Member Posts: 1,927
    [....
    Dear Bruno,

    Thank you for contacting Mazda North American Operations. I appreciate the opportunity to respond to you.

    You are requesting current campaign information regarding your 2002 Mazda Protegé5. According to our records, your 2002 Mazda Protegé5, Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) XXX has no open Mazda Recall Campaigns or Special Service Programs at this time.

    Please understand recalls are mandated by the Federal Government, not by individual car manufacturers. Also, keep in mind that Recalls & Special Service Programs are VIN specific. As such, not all vehicles produced during a model year will be affected.

    In regards to your question on the sensor, Mazda is not affiliated with Nissan and therefore, we do not have information on Nissian's Recall or what sensor is involved. The Mazda Familia is not a vehicle made for the United States Market. I am not familiar with that particular vehicle, however, Mazda vehicles made for other markets do normally have different specifications than vehicles made for the United States market. Because recalls are issued by the Federal Government and not individual car manufacturers you may want to contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration for further assistance with your question. You can reach them at www.nhtsa.dot.gov.

    Again, thank you for contacting Mazda. It has been my pleasure to assist you. Please feel free to reply to this message with any further questions or comments.

    ...]

    Short version: they do not know!
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Member Posts: 1,007
    With enough money and effort, any engine can be shoved into any (appropriately sized) engine bay.

    See what Audi did with the S4 - a compact (almost sub-compact) car with a V8!
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    just saying hi to a long-time-no-post thread :-)

    my Protege is still running strong, NO RUST!!!
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    same here. Doing very well.

    Dinu
  • theparallaxtheparallax Member Posts: 361
    At 66xxx miles and still running just like the day she was brought home.

    I cleaned the whole rear undercarriage of my car today...and added a zoom-zoom sticker to my AWR rear swaybar, for those interested:
    http://www.knology.net/~negatize/images/IMG_1663.JPG
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Glad to hear it runs fine even at that mileage.

    Mine is at 66-67K, but kms not miles :)

    Dinu
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    I see the Pro board is still going fine. Sorry that Nessie is having so much trouble, maybe he/she drives on rough roads and the bumping is causing things to come loose. Some people tend to ignore problems too long. Whatever happened to "preventive maintenance", remember that one?

    I have a friend in Florida who is hard on cars, he can trash a new car in 30-days. He takes his frustrations out on his car and anything else mechanical. Some people are like that.

    fowler3
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I drove both my Proteges pretty hard and never had any rattling issues with them. The roads here in MD and DC are a total mess, so that will definitely make a car rattle before its time.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    Ours was tight as a drum. In fact it was one of the best cars we've owned structure-wise.
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    Mazda Mania Chat tonight! 9:00PM EST -- 6:00PM PST

    And, YES, I will be ontime. The room opens 15 minutes early, first one in turns on the lights.

    fowler3
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Member Posts: 1,265
    "The roads here in MD and DC are a total mess, so that will definitely make a car rattle before its time."
    -Paul


    Paul do you live in Baltimore or DC?

    -Larry

    Btw, I have 64,025 miles on my 2000 Protege ES and my wife, Trudy has 63,295 on her 2000 Protege ES and neither Mazda rattles, rusts or squeaks.
  • meinradmeinrad Member Posts: 820
    Larry, you're letting them get too far apart!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    I have 67,000 miles on my 2000 ES.

    Larry, have you had your 60K service(s) done yet? I haven't (I've changed the oil, of course), and just like when I was late for my 30K service (did it at about 34,000 miles), I can tell the car wants new plugs. I smell rotten eggs every so often. Man, these cars KNOW when it's time for a tune-up! Gotta find $250 and take it in!

    BTW Larry, Paul lives in Baltimore, right near the Inner Harbor. I don't think he's capable of responding here at this time. Or so he says.

    Meade
  • meinradmeinrad Member Posts: 820
    I just rolled past 25k a week or so ago. Oil change and tire rotation and window chip sorta fix.

    And I never smell rotten eggs, sure you didn't leave a grocery bag under your seat?
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Member Posts: 1,265
    "Larry, you're letting them get too far apart!"

     Your right on, Raymond. Time for us to swap them again. 730 miles is as far as I've ever let them get apart.
     Been, also thinking about get 2 sets of dedicated snow tires and rims? I guess now is the time to do the deed if I'm gonna. Time to visit TireRack.com and prolly stop by NTW too. Anyone else thinking snow tires for a 15 inch wheel this winter?

    -lovetrain
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Member Posts: 1,265
    "Larry, have you had your 60K service(s) done yet?"

    No, gonna schedule both of em next week. Cost me at least $450 each. I'll have the usual dealer vodoo checks & lube, tranny service, oil-n-filter, front break shoes replaced, and plugs and wires done.
     
    -oldhead
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Larry, either you're getting diamond-tipped plugs, or you're being gouged to death! The full 60K service from my dealership is under $350! They charging you that for the front pads? Do 'em yourself! Or are you getting the timing belts replaced too?

    Here in VA the manual calls for timing belt replacement at 105K miles due to emissions stuff, for some reason ... and my service writer at the dealership confirmed and supported waiting until at least 90K, citing his own Honda Civic whose belt he replaced at 90K with no problems. Check your manual to see if PA is included in that regional thingy.

    (Nice to have that timing belt service placed so wonderfully after 100K, when I know Zoomster (poor ol' buddy) will be in someone else's hands, and his timing belt will be an S.E.P.

    (Somebody Else's Problem)

    Good Lord willin' an' the creek don' rise, I'll be toolin' along happily in my '05 Mazda3 by then!

    Meade

    P.S. Nothing like a good little mileage debate to get this group going on a windy morning!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    You don't have enough miles on yours yet. Just wait. When I reached about 32,000 miles, I started smelling a rotten-egg smell when I was stopped at traffic lights. Thought I had a bad cat converter or something; sure enough, though, the new plugs cured it. Now, at 67K, I'm smelling it again. Trust me, these cars KNOW when it's time for new plugs (especially with the way WE drive them)!!!

    Meade
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Member Posts: 1,265
    Meade, perhaps the 2 dozen Cherry Stone clams and the 4 pints of Black-n-Tan you consumed at the Cork and Barrel Pub on the way home from work contributed to the "rotten-egg smell"? However, do you often change brands of Gasoline when you fill up the Protege? I do know winter Gasoline tends to have a sulfer emmision oder....

    -Dr. Larry
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