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Mazda Protegé



  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    The luxury of a power antenna with the gentle hum of the motor is lost when it hits bottom with a loud tiny THUNK! Most mounted on rear fenders do this. I prefer a fixed antenna.

    The antenna mounted on the A pillar is probably there because it uses the car’s roof as a ground plane. Some radio signals are received directly along with reflected signals from a ground plane, providing better reception when far from the stations.

    Put some silicone lubricant on the mast so you can raise and lower it by opening the window and reaching out. Another advantage of this style antenna.

    (1) I would like cruise control buttons like ones found on other cars; rather than the stalk-style. (2) Larger outside rear-view mirrors.(3) Twist-type windshield wiper controls that work like the lights control on the left.(4) Top of windshield tinting. (5) A leather trim option. (6) And an alloy wheels option, post-purchase, with Mazda logos.(7) Higher quality carpeting and mats.(8) Courtesy lights in the lower door panels for getting out at night.

    Have you noticed that the dome light is dimmer when the doors are closed, but when you open one the light gets brighter. It isn’t the window tinting. Open the rear door and press the black rubber button near the seat. ;)

  • ak47kaak47ka Posts: 2
    I am considering buying a 2001 LX 2.0, 5 speed. I can get the S plan, but can anyone who has this car let me know what they paid. And what exactly is the S plan? Do dealers have a set amount they can take off? Anyway, I test drove the car today and liked it better than the Corolla, Tiburon and even the Civic, plus the 4.9% for 60 mon is great. I have had a GLC, which was really old but ran and now I have a '92 626 with 173,000 miles. (Anyone want to but it?)
    I have been researching the Protege and haven't found many complaints. So, for anyone that reads this, if you have had any problems with the car I would like to know. Thanks!
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    I think that’s the problem with Mazda’s advertising on TV, in magazines, and on their web site -- the cars are not shown clearly, as the Protegé5 IS on the new commercial. It’s as if they are trying to keep them secret.

    The Mazda web site is the ugliest I have seen for a car manufacturer, very depressing colors. The others use a white background and brighter colors. Far more cheerful.

    And wouldn’t it be cool PR if Mazda included a CD with every new Protegé with the Zoom Zoom song; a “Welcome to Mazda” message; and more music to play.

    Mazda, are you reading this?

  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    You may also want to test drive the ES. Go to Edmunds or and equip the car the way you want (which may or may not be what Mazda has in mind) and take about 1.2% off the invoice not including the freight ($480). That should be close to the S-Plan price. If you take the 4.9% financing, I believe you won't get the $500 rebate. There's a free moonroof promotion. Not sure if you get an additional $500 if your car doesn't have the moonroof. Tell us the exact car you want and maybe someone would be able to help you.
  • ak47kaak47ka Posts: 2
    If I don't take the 4.9% I would get $1000 back, but with it only $500, which is still decent. If I get the moonroof I don't even get the $500. I just graduated from college and I think I could live without the moonroof for $500. They have an emerald 5-speed, LX 2.0 without the moonroof and spoiler. Thats the car I want but I want the spoiler. Roughly what should the dealer charge to install it?
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    I have no idea how much a dealer would charge for a dealer-installed rear spoiler. They're free to charge whatever they want. You just need to negotiate from the inflated price. The invoice on a distributor-installed one is $246. wants $279 plus shipping for the part. Your local dealer' parts department should charge more than that. You "just" need to drill four holes and attach four screws. Have no idea about the wiring to the LED brake light. What region are you in? You know you should be able to get the additional $400 college grad. rebate, right?
  • I drove an ES w/o ABS before I bought mine and I really feel the ones w/o ABS were just as good and tight as mine, of course the only difference being the ones w/o ABS will be much more likely to lock up on a sudden hard braking maneuver.

    I totally agree with your suggested changes regarding the dash lighting and trunk opening button on the key fob. I find the seats quite comfortable as is, although I'm not that tall.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I would like a remote button on the key fob for opening the trunk, a standard theft deterrent system, and cruise control buttons instead of the stalk (it gets in my way all the time). I would also like heated mirrors and traction control to at least be options. Otherwise, I am very happy with my purchase.

    ZOOM ZOOM! :)
  • rnd2rnd2 Posts: 31
    i got my car back from the body shop 2 weeks ago, looks good you can't tell it was ever keyed, now my car is in a different body shop getting the correct spoiler put on it, i got the dealer to give me a spoiler to close the deal when i got my car, but the dealer had someone else do the spoiler ( they are pros they can do a better job ) this is what my dealer told me, well they put on this this 3 prong aftermarket spoiler that looks like crap! after raising lots hell and telling them they will get a big fat-0-on the raiting they agreed to put on the correct spoiler, (raising hell didn't get it done it was only days later when i told them they would would get a-0- they agreed to replace the spoiler,i get my car back today it's been gone for a week, i can't wait i wan't to drive it baddly
  • rnd2rnd2 Posts: 31
    this car needs real delay wipers
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    we are asking for it wouldn’t suprise me if the Protegé price shot up to the 626’s!

  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    To add delay wipers, the traction control option, new cruise buttons (preferably from the P5, the theft system as standard, and the remote button on the key fob wouldn't add alot to the sticker. TRAC would be an option of course (about $200), the other stuff would probably increase the price about $300 or so. I would be willing to pay that much more for the stuff we asked for.

    I noticed another deep scratch on my car, on the right side this time. At the very edge of the front bumper just ahead of the front right tire, it looks like someone hit it. I don't know how that is possible, but it looks as if someone hit it there. I am so mad! I need to move out of the city badly!
  • HAH! Fowler3, I have to tell you, I had the same idea about a Mazda CD about three months ago when I was thinking about ordering my Pro! I told all my friends and they thought it was a great idea.

    What a super marketing tactic, eh? Have this fresh CD waiting in every new Mazda so the first sound a new owner hears reinforces the Mazda brand image.

    Unfortunately, VW has beaten everyone to the punch...they're offering a CD of all their advertising songs on their website for $10.

    Oh well...Mazda's never been a marketing innovator. They save their innovation energy for the actual cars, thank goodness. I'm actually fine with Mazdas being under the radar of most buyers--makes it easier for smart buyers like us to negotiate sweet deals on sweet cars.
  • cpaulyeecpaulyee Posts: 19
    I like all those wish list changes, if Mazda listens it will make what already is a great car even better. But since we are wishing, how about one more item, move the ignition switch to the dash. Even with the thoughtful lighting, did anyone ever fumble trying to stick the key in?
  • texbeantexbean Posts: 38
    Does anyone know if the 2002's are going to be starting in Sept/Oct, or late like the 2001's? It seems like the dealers here in Dallas ordered a lot of 2001's, and are not going to get anything new in (looking for LX 2.0 w/Prem Pkg) for awhile. Thinking of ordering one like I want, if that's even possible (anyone know how long it normally takes?). Didn't want to order a 2001 if the 2002's are going to start production in a few months.


  • edmund2460edmund2460 Posts: 293
    Don't know if someone else responded. But the S plan for ES/Auto/Prem Pkg has been well established here at 16,267 minus 500 rebate. Anything less than that or different, I guess you can probably figure by adding and subtracting invoice prices depending on what u add/subtract. You get on S by joining the Ford partner program (for a fee I guess). I got mine thro' my company's purchasing dept. (we buy pool cars). It's important to know the rebates and that the moonroof is free. I have had dealers try to take advantage and charge me for that. Also you may find that dealers are unwilling to seel at S plan prices.
  • edmund2460edmund2460 Posts: 293
    I thought the power windows were one touch (perhaps on the driver's side at least). Why do I have to hold the button all the way?

    Also is anyone using synthetic? and what kind? any AMSOIL users? Can anyone advise as whether this is preferable, I've never used synthetic. My cars usually have had other problems that caused me to get rid of it before the engine had any problems.
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    The driver's power window is one-touch down. Try pressing it past the initial detent.
  • Everyone seems curious about MPG - just turned 4k on our '01 ES 5-speed. Averaging a very steady 33 miles per gallon / 75% highway speeds 55-75 mph. We are very pleased with this so far!! No complaints in any area - solid as a rock - no squeaks or rattles. A buddy of mine is an Audi fanatic and has an A4....he took a drive with me in the PRO and was very impressed - he asked, how much did you pay for this?? He couldnt believe how solid and refined for a 16 grand car.
    Later all - Greg
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    In building cars, they build to sell at a price-point. Even though many buyers will say, “Why didn’t they put in variable windshield wipers?” the fact is, if Mazda builds 200,000 units and adds an item that costs them $15 each, that’s $3,000,000 that wasn’t figured in the price-point. And probably why they used the old-fashioned stalk for the cruise control. It came from some supplier’s parts bin at a cheap price to Mazda.

  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    True, but then a pair of colored mirrors probably cost more than $15 over the black mirrors. Mazda's putting them in ES's at no additional charge.
  • inkyinky Posts: 370
    I came very close to buying an ES/AUTO/Roof car when dealer had a $100 over invoice and you keep any incentives sale. Sticker was $17,800, quoted price was $16,800 and low financing instead of rebate. I asked about the $570 moonroof credit and they stared at me like I was nuts. That soured the deal since I knew it was a real deal.
    I really wanted a 5 speed anyway and am glad they shot themselves in the foot. No 5 speeds available so I picked up a 99 Civic 5 speed for a great price and will drive it until some other Mazda dealer starts getting some inventory for 2002. Why do 5 speeds hardly exist? I have never seen a premium package here in OK.
  • I was surprised at the lack of 5-speeds, as well, when I ordered my Pro (the dealer had tried unsuccessfully to do a dealer locate beforehand).

    After I did my order, I was talking with the guy at my dealership who does all the ordering, and asked him why 5-speeds were so scarce. He told me Mazda severely underestimated the demand for 5-speeds; if I remember correctly, I think he told me they'd projected about 30% demand for the manual and it's ended up being about 60%. I don't know if these numbers only apply to my region (I'm in WI) or if they're true across the country.

    Anyway, sorry your Pro deal soured.
  • rnd2rnd2 Posts: 31
    i use mobil-1 oil and filter
  • ramirjaramirja Posts: 1
    I own a Protege 99 DX and also started experiencing back problems after long commutes everyday. After I read your posting I did not have a clear idea of the reason, but this seems very possible.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    If you plan on keeping the 99 DX for a while, take it to a trim shop and have them put padding in the lower backrest. It should require only a small addition to correct your back problem.

    Mazda seatbacks lack lumbar padding on the lower part of the backrest. Sit in the car and tell the person at the trim shop how much and where you want it, custom-fitted for your back.

    Any trim shop or good seat cover place should be able to do this.

    It shouldn’t be expensive.

  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    I use either Mobil 1 or Valvoline. Both seem to work fine.

    What's noticeable is how much more smoothly the engine starts and runs for the first few minutes with synthetic v. refined crude oil. Most engine wear occurs at start-up as parts may not be covered with sufficient oil, allowing metal-to-metal contact and wear.

    It costs more, but you'll be much happier with the way the engine runs. Besides, the cost of the oil pales in comparison to the overall cost of the car.

    You may go for longer intervals between oil changes with the synthetic, so get the larger oil filter (Mazda makes large and small...usually the smaller one is sold to DIYers and costs less). The small one is adequate for 3,000 mile intervals, but the oil gets dark quickly after this point, so I figure it's surpassed its capacity.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    It's just a simple RC timer circuit, with the R being a potentiometer or a bank of resistors. Total cost is probably another $2 for Mazda, probably less than it costs to pre-treat, prime and paint the side-mirror housings.

    I'd take a multiple-speed interval wiper over body-color painted side mirror shrouds any day. Besides, the painted mirror shrouds just means two more patches of paint I have to maintain. Matte unpainted black plastic is fine with me.

    Of course, the painted side mirror housings are distinctive for this class of vehicles. They haven't done this for several years (my 89 323 has painted side mirrors). Hopefully, they have improved the durability of the paint. The paint on my 323's side mirrors is faded quite badly.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Try Browning Mazda in Cerritos. They have a fairly good reputation.

  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Just out of curiousity, how tall are you? I am 6'3, and the seatback felt like there was this very hard space in it that poked me in the lower back. It hurt my back alot, especially since I have back trouble anyway (from a car accident 3 years back). Other than the back pain, how has your DX been holding up? Auto. or manual, and how many miles?
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