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I had a liner that came with my truck, but Rhino's are good. Quality depends on the installer more than anything. Disadvantage is difficulty in removing if you have a wreck and need to repair an area, potential fading of color, but they are very nice IMHO.
Just remember the part time 4x4 can be a pain in snow - you have to switch back and forth on clear streets and snow covered areas. I did a road trip to Maine to snowboard one year and was shifting the transfer case like a manual transmission, and the driving got fun when you hit some slick stuff in 2wd - lots of oversteer with my limited slip rear.
If you go with a tonno cover, get the kind wiht the bolt on rails so you don't have to drill your new Ram's bed to attach.
one thing about trucks, there are lots of accessory options.
Perhaps someone with more accurate information can tell us what the revolutions per mile are for these two as that will be the true determining factor between them, other than aesthetics.
265 70 17 = 31.6
I traded in an 01 Ranger which was a nice truck but this Dodge blows it away. I got the Dodge for invoice minus the $1500 rebate and they gave me only $900 less for the Ranger than what I paid for it new 8 months ago!!!! They actually allowed me the RETAIL value, in excellent condition, according to Kelly Blue Book!!!!!They claim they were behind on their Ram quota for the month and this last sale would get them over the top. They happened to have just taken this truck off the transport truck and it is just what I was looking for; love the 5 speed V8. I must admit; I am VERY impressed with the build quality of this truck. I have been in Hondas for the past 20 years (my other car is a Honda S2000) and haven't ever had any warranty repairs and have found the workmanship and quality of these cars to be up to my exacting standards, well, so is this Dodge. You can believe the ads about "There being a new mayor in truckville".
Bob
Congratulations!!
I'm wondering about the performance of the 5spd/4.7 combo. Keep us up to date!
Good Luck and enjoy
I had six new GMC's and Chevy's they simply are not the mayor!!
the new quads with the 4.7l engine contain different trannies/transfer cases vs the previous generation. however, the 5.9l equipped quads still sport the same old tranny/transfer case. if you want my two cents...i'd either get the 4.7l powertrain, or wait for the hemi this fall. the hemi is coming with new trannies/transfer cases when it debutes...
if you are looking at a 4wd quad, i'd wait for the hemi. that truck is mighty heavy and isn't even propelled that well by the current 5.9l (per test drive experience). i'm afraid the 4.7l will be overwhelmed by such a heavy truck. especially at interstate speeds...jmo. of course someone here with that combo could give you more detail.
Drive a 4.7 and you will see! Mine is rated at 240hp.
how does your truck do with the cruise set to 75 mph on the interstate? does the tranny kick down on every little hill, or is the 4.7l able to hold sufficient speed? just wondering...thanks.
i despise driving a vehicle that has to downshift out of overdrive to make it up every little hill when traveling at interstate speeds. that to me is very annoying. therefore, yes, i do like to have a bigger engine that allows me to travel at 75-80 mph without the need for excessive downshifts when traversing every ant hill...that's just the way i like it. and i don't see anything wrong with that given that the larger engine will probably end up getting comparable mpg (vs smaller engine)since it is more relaxed at said speed.
200 Ohhhh so smooooth miles. 4.7L Quad 4x4 5sp man has enough power for me. May not be enough for some. 392 gears help with starts and keeps the downshifting to a minimum. If you're going 4.7 I'd say shorter gears are a must.
E-Mail has not driven a 4.7 to my knowledge so how can he be source of information of this issue? I have another friend how bought a 02 with the 5.9 and he is crying about the gas mileage already at 8,000mi. Maybe the new hemi will get better than the 5.9, but with the kind of HP it is going to have I'm sure it won't be much.
If you think you just have to have a bunch of extra HP under the hood that is going to cost many extra $$$ fine. Everybody their own, but I'm very satisfied with the 4.7 it will run 70-80 mph with out any problem and pull anything I want to pull and get reasonable gas mi. the 95% of the time I'm just driving to work and running around town.
This truck is put together. It handles and rides like a dream. I cannot recommend it highly enough. The dealership in Terrell is also top shelf. I have never seen so many new cars. Talk about high volume. Stack em deep and sell em cheap. They don't have time to screw with the normal give and take the hucks at the local dealerships here do. They quote it, you buy it. When you call, ask for Kelli Ann. She will FAX you the invoice, the sticker, anything else you need. Just be ready to give her the details like options and colors. I assure you, it is in stock. Tell her Lamar told you to call. Questions? JLamar@knology.net.
i always drive 4x4s, and i simply don't think the 4.7l would have enough guts for me if placed in a 4x4 quad. i did drive a 5.9l equipped quad, and was completely underwhelmed with that motor. i can only imagine how the 4.7l would do in such a heavy 4x4 truck, especially when you are pushing it a little. i know dodge has done a good job of selecting decent ratios for the 45rfe automatic, but gas mileage defintely seems to have suffered. for comparison the 4.7l quad is actually rated worse mpg overall than my 5.4l 4x4 s-crew. dodge 13/17 highway, s-crew 14/17 highway. this alone makes me really wonder if the 4.7l is overburdened by the heft of the 4x4 quad. i could be wrong but i have my doubts...
btw, what rpms do your guys' trucks run at 80 mph?? just interested as my s-crew turns over 2100...(3.55 rear end).
my s-crew is an '02 which has the second generation 5.4l and it "goes" very well thank you. btw, based on your mpg, your truck must be the 2wd version, which i'm sure the 4.7l handles just fine. i'm talking specifically about the 4x4 versions. as for racing, your 2wd might beat my 4wd, but you are comparing apples to oranges...
twinscrew,
sitting in a quad, you can tell it's a little wider than an screw. but lack of rear seat comfort, and the absence of a new, modern large v/8 powertrain kept me from buying the quad. it was a nice driving and riding truck, just weren't enough goodies to offset the shortcomings, imo.
OK Folks, how often do you put people (or your mother-n-law) in the rear seat of a supercrew/quad cab? It would be interesting to see how often people use this on a regular basis.
Paul
The list your talking about that is too long to mention.... I have a pretty loaded SCrew XLT and I have stuff on that, that isn't even available on even the SLT PLUS of a ram quad. Plus I would even ride in my backseat myself for any distance, unlike yourself, you save that uncomfortable seat for the kids and mother-in-law.
You talk about the backseat, lets add to that and ask how many people actually use the box on the truck fulltime. I know that the 5 1/2 foot box is plenty of enough room for me. The bigger the box you have, the more stuff you will take on a trip that you will never use and still will have to unpack when you get home.
you should read the march '02 motortrend article that compares 4x4 versions of the quad, s-crew, tundra and gm 1500. it is an interesting read, except for the obvious errors about the ford engine size and tranny...
give it a lookie loo...it basically comfirmed my suspicions about the 4.7l in a heavy 4x4 truck...
btw, you'd be hard pressed to find many cars with as much overall interior volume as a quad or s-crew.
what in the heck are u talkin' about?? what question??
Of course I don't use the rear seat, I'm driving.
I do like the Silverado 1500 HD backseat, but that's a whole-lotta-truck. The F150 Screw rear seat IS more comfortable than the Dodge but isn't the best either, esp. if you have long legs.
I went on line and built a bare bones XLT Screw, that listed MSRP of $30,395 and then I tried a bare bones ST which listed as $26,265 and it was no comparison, I then set out to equip an slt to get up to the bare bones xlt and that listed out at $30,985. Minor differances Dodge- trip computer, heated mirrors,rear underseat storage Ford-rear power point, storage compartments behind rear seat, lockable tailgate,electronic shift on the fly, split bench rear seat with fold flat feature, maximum payload is a 135 lbs more. After going thru this I can see that the SCrew is in a Class by its self. Sure Dodge can offer a cheaper vehicle, but you get what you pay for. I wish you well with your Quad and may the vehicle Gods bless you so that it runs and lasts to your expectations.