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As for you push.....I also own a Durango, so I haunt the dodge sites, if only to keep you dodge boys in the soiled white hats honest. My full opinion on the new quad is still out. Maybe they will relook at the comfort of the rear seats and possibly head rests for them and change them mid year. The Screw had 3 differant generations the first year it was out. No matter what vehicle you choose there's always room for improvement. Hopefully the new quad will be able to hold their resale value, because I haven't seen a dodge yet do that.
And yes it's only because of the Cummins. But they do nonetheless!
The F-150's resale is nothing to get excited about either. The only reason it has been the best selling is because it has been the cheapest and now GM is gaining share by selling for less by the method of huge rebates which Ford is trying to out do. As soon as Ford comes out with the new F-150 it will make the current worth even less. That is another reason for the huge rebates to reduce inventory of current F-150's and Chevy Silverado so they don't have at give them away.
Silverado is due out in 03 not sure about F-150.
From the MAYOR
apparently dodge is having some trouble moving the new trucks...ie...1500 dollar rebate on '02. looks like the MAYOR has to "buy" votes too!!!
I was not even considering a Dodge two weeks ago. The incentives as well as the great deal I got on my Quad interested me. It took a good deal to open my eyes to something I did not realize was even out there. The truck is not cheap. It is inexpensive if you can find a deal. There are no deals in my town. I drove 625 miles to get one, though.
The Quad is the most well thought out and designed vehicle I have purchased. Reliability? We will see. The quality seems to me to be top shelf. With the free 7yr/100,000mi warranty I feel confident.
To each his own.
There will always be words exchanged between vehicle owners.....it all started back when my wheel is better then your wheel (500 B.C.) So count to 10 and let your blood pressure come back down.
But I do have a question for you. I have a 02 XLT Super Crew 4x4 with the off-road package, two-tone paint, running boards,AM/FM/Cassette and 6 CD changer, power moonroof, power drivers/auto headlamps, 3.55/LS axle, cloth heated seats,5.4
V8, sliding rear window,towing package, electronic shift 4wd, auto. Can you build a quad cab like that?
Dodge won't let you, they have really limited your choices and packages. I wanted a truck,with the things that I wanted on it. Dodge didn't offer a moonroof and they only way you could get heated seats were to go with leather, I didn't want leather in a truck, I had leather in my last truck, I was always afraid something in my pockets would catch it. You would be amazed how much light a moonroof lets in, especially in a crew cab. I wanted the 4wd shift on the dash, I didn't want it on the floor. Dodge says sure you can get it, but you must buy the SLT PLus.
I'm not a brand loyalist, I buy the truck that best suits my needs and while I drive the truck, I'll stand up for it. Push you and I are completly differant, you haul mulch, I haul firewood, dead animals, I keep a chain saw in the back of my truck year-round, so it's handy to have a locking tailgate and a cap instead of an open bed. I bought my truck to use, I can take it down a narrow brush scraping road without batting a eye lash or washed and shined out to dinner. I have had my truck since Oct 01, got a little over 7000 miles on it, I haven't been back to the dealer once for service. Now I have said my peace......Good luck with your truck, hope it's everything you say it is......but I'm still glad I bought a Ford.
I love AMERICA were the biggest issue is your truck not finding food to eat.
From the MAYOR's Office.
One thing that Dodge did even way back in '95 on my original ram 4x4, was to put super nice full wheel housing plastic liners in the 4x4 versions. Combined with the factory mud flaps, you're not going to have rust on that fender right behind the rear wheels like you will with Ford and Chevy. My neighbor had a brand new 2001 F250 crew cab 4x4 and all it had was some loose peice of plastic shoved between the bed and the outer fender to keep debris from being plastered all under the bed and in the back side of the bumper. Nothing to protect the metal lower panel.
This seems like a small matter unless you keep trucks a long time and you live where it snows or use the 4x4 a lot. A few winters of salt caked under the truck from a inadequate wheel housing protection, and you're Ford will look like one of those Old style fords -- all rust.
I think its interesting how the "new" ford and the chevy both take a lot of que's from the Dodge styling. Personally I think Dodge over-did the grill, but I like the rest of the truck a lot. Very sharp and functional. A nitch vehicle like Dodge is famous for. Not a full crew cab, not a normal extra cab with goofy doors. The bigger wheels in particular were brilliant and have attracted a lot of buyers.
Down here in Texas we see tons of F crews and starting to see a lot of Dodge's. Trucks are a way of life. Both are decent, take your pick.
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As for letting the salt sit and eat....Up here in Wisconsin where we got salt piles higher then the cow piles of texas........we take the hose and wash the salt off our truck.......it's called taking care of your truck. I have never had a truck that rusted on me. My first truck was a dodge power wagen stepside, nothing but a rear fender and no rust proofing either just good maintenance, no rust at 160,000 when I traded it for a new jeep.
I admit the DC is not the "best" truck if there is such a thing (depends on what you are looking for), but just trying to give an example of a Ford shortcoming on a truck that goes for nearly $35 large. I'd like the Dodge a lot better personally if it was put on a diet. Its too heavy IMHO.
You sound alfully proud of your decision and your truck, and I admit it sound like it is nice and has all the goodies, but it seems you need to prove to everyone you bought the right truck and everyone else got the wrong one. If you need emotional reinforcement on your truck purchase, I think the Screw group would be more than willing to provide such services. You're barking up the wrong tree here trying to convince everyone the Screw is the end-all be-all. Just an observation.
BTW, I used to live where it snowed, but now I don't and I'm selling my Dodge 4x4 as I don't have a need in surburbia for that vehicle anymore and I like the 23.5mpg my van gets. Not as manley but I don't need a ego pump and its very practical and cheap. Have fun and enjoy whatever you drive.
DD
But yet I get blasted saying I'm on an ego trip. I was stating my opinion, but that's ok...if it wasn't for emale and myself (Screw owners) keeping you guys on your toes, this forum would be dead. So this is my last post in here, it's post 567. By next week at this time I doubt if you up to 600. Have a good life people........
... but to all the Dodge owners ... isn't this the best truck since sliced bread !! :-)
Let's end this inane bickering. I come to the "Dodge Quad" site to talk about my truck and that of fellow Quad owners. I really don't care to hear about how Emale or Bowhunter like their Fords better. Jimmy Crap Corn and I don't care! If you want to talk about Screws and comparisons, click a different link and leave our's alone. I'm sure you can find a lot of folks over in the Ford thread that will sing Screw praises with you. We all happen to like our well-made, well-engineered, full-sized Dodge trucks.
I had to dodge a skunk with my father in-law going 65. He could not believe how will it handled it I couldn't either.
Take a look at the topic titles once in a while and try to stay away from injecting the "comparison wars' into topics where they don't belong.
Have a great weekend!
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Also, keep your eyes posted for the J.D. Power Quality Survey that's due out later in the year. I'm being told that there are going to be some surprises!
I'm renting a F150 Crew Cab next weekend to go down to my property. I have a long weekend to start my maintenance chores. My local Dodge dealer said I could have a RAM Quad for a weekend, too, so I'm going to test the Ford first to see how they compare.
I'll let you know.
Dusty
your local dodge dealer was gonna let you have a ram for an entire weekend test drive. you must have some clout!!
There is no way a person would purchase a vehicle that he/she later rates as a 1 in design of the exterior and interior. The obvious odd ball rating should be kicked out. No matter. Anyone with a grain of intelligence can read between the lines. Probably someone seeping through from the Ford/Chevy side. I have owned both. I am glad I sit in a Dodge now. My QUAD is keeping me very happy. Hell, I think I'll go drive it right now!
Of course, the dealer didn't tell me I'd be able to just pick one off the lot and drive it away, either. It looks like they isolate a few for test drives. I think I'll be getting one of those. The day I drove one back in December (I think it was), that unit had over a hundred miles on it.
Dusty
Dusty
This truck is a winner! If the reliability is equal to the engineering & design, Dodge will have another great 8 years.
Gottscdj, I had the keyless entry installed at the dealership, but you could do much better at the stereo shops, for the money. Happy Trucking!
It compared favorably with my 02 Ram 4X4 4.7L quad in quite a few areas, but fell a little short in others. The flat out acceleration was a little better, but it did not feel as quick and nimble in normal situations as my Ram. Wasn't as easy to park (anyone know how the turning radius compares?). I didn't like the ride as well as my Ram. Seems like we felt every little bump on uneven roads and we noticed every seam in the freeways that we traveled. The trans in the Ford wasn't as smooth as my Ram either.
The interior on the ford was pretty impressive. I liked the leather, adjustable pedals, and the controls seemed to be well thought out. I liked the fact that you could see the time AND the station that your radio was tuned to at the same time. Climate controls were top notch. I like the console and storage on my Ram much better. Seems like ford wasted some space in this area.
Bottom line is that she's happy with hers and I'm happy with mine. I did not point out to her any of the "weaknesses" in her new ride. I'm liking more and more the fact that she won't be asking to borrow my truck any more.
good thing for you, eh twinscrew?? what's that old joke about women and depth perception??!
just havin' some fun...! hope you and your wife enjoy your respective rides!!!
Compared to other cars you must be fairly close to the vehicle in order to unlock the doors. I also noticed that the owners manual describes a different transmitter than the one we received. Finally, I once ran into somebody else who did get their Avalon with the factory installed unit and they can unlock from almost three times the distance that we can.
Dusty
I might add that when torqued properly, this problem would not have occurred.
I wouldn't pick on Chrysler for blowing their "master plan." I worked for a car company that, under the same conditions, would've launched the engine anyways. Chrysler appears to be more conscientious, albeit conservative.
Dusty