Chevy Silverado - Continued XVIII

ryanbab

haha

it hasnt come out of the garage (other than me pulling it out to pull mine in and clean the inside) since wednesday

blackmax200

the tourists have plenty to chose from as there is an ABC Store on every corner and in one the middle of the block!

I suppose Ryan is trying to impress us that his truck is part of the logo at.... hehe
Sorry dude, the black flares gave it away!

matthew

obyone

23 in an area little over a square mile.

seelig

what gets me is how Ryan won't show the whole picture of his blue Tundra..........someday kid....

pal

ryanbab

Whole picture



SHHHH dont tell everyone i put a Z71 sticker, bigger tires and a slight lift and chevy front end on a tundra.

seelig

the ****** is salvageable........
good luck on this one now!!!

blackmax200

and he must have replaced the tail lights too, along with taking off the extra door handles....
matthew

ryanbab

that pic was taken before the snow.

However since 2 days last wk we had temps in the 60's the snow melted

As for the door handles i painted the blue along with the mirrors

quadrunner500

....water snake crawlin' up from the lower left...

edd4

Thanks for the replys. I have heard of the throttle body fix, but did not believe that was my problem. I sprayed some Tri-Flow teflon lube on the pedal hinge itself and that has improved it about 90%. Only 15,000 miles on the truck. I expected more responses on this issue as it seems to be a very common problem.

ryanbab

heck yea thing attacked me pretty good

mpalombo

This weekend I caught the last 2 minutes of what looked like a GMC infomercial. I wish I saw the whole thing. They were talking about "professional grade" and how great the GMC trucks were. There was a quick scene of the quadra-steer truck. This got me thinking... are there major differences between the Sierra and the Silverado? I'm talking about differences other than the ones that you can see like wheels and front end, I mean things like suspension or drivetrain.

Thanks,
-Mark

rayt2

Last I knew the only difference are the badges, wheels, interior design & that Large Mouth Bass Grille among some things. I believe they are assembled at same plants, GMC offers some options as stock where as Chevy will charge for the option but GMC also has a little higher price tag over Chevy trucks. Remember their both General Motors products though. There are others on this board who have more knowledge of GMC history also. As that infommercial stated (yea I saw it yesterday on TV also) 1916 was first year GMC developed first truck. Now to go to that web page and enter to win the truck..... LOL.

Ray T.

txyank1

differences the rest, as mentioned, is options. GMC includes some things that are optional on Chevy. One for instance, a GMC X-Cab comes standard with the 4.8 V8 whereas the 6 is std. in a Chevy. And GMC is striving for a more upscale image.

tomh12

"From professional people, come professional grade trucks!"

Bring in a whole different crew of workers when they shift over to the 30% GMC production.

LOL
Tom

seelig

i saw the program, and like it's already been said, some options you pay more for on a rado are already installed in the GMC as stock.....that and maybe the different production crew that Tomh12 mentioned, and probably no parts from the south included(pun inteneded)

{:o)

markbuck

Well, so much for the TR55IX plugs. Still occasional light ping on 6.0L 2500hd when hill climbing from 1500' to 7000'. Went back to premium, no problems.

Looking for an OEM GM radio for my PU. Ordered my PU with a casette player, as I like books on tape when on road trips. Now books on tape are avail as books on CD. If any of yawl replace your stock CD unit, let me know I'll buy the old one. Thanks!

markbuck

maybe my 6.0 is more likely to ping than an automatic, as I tend to lug the thing up hills in 5th or 4th rather than downshifting. I suspect the auto's down shift rather than running WFO at 2600rpm....

mpalombo

I just got off the phone with the service advisor at the dealer where I bought my truck. I had a not so nice conversation about the cold start knock problem. I explained that I knew that GM was offering extended warranties on the engine to those who initiated the buy back process and that I would like to get the extended warranty but that I did not want to do the buy back process. My reason for this is that I have purchased 4 new cars from this dealership in the last 10 years. I like them, they are a great dealership and I would like to continue shopping there, unfortunately their service department is starting to go down hill. So I am dropping the truck off Tuesday night so they can look at it on Wednesday morning and document the cold start knock. They are also doing the intermediate steering shaft. I would like to have some hard facts about this extended warranty when I go in on Wednesday, I am guessing that I am going to be talking to the general manager. If anybody knows where I can get more information about the extended warranty or if anybody here has gotten this warranty could you please let me know.

Thanks in advance,
-Mark

seelig

this is where the BBB steps in......they are not the LAW, but when they step in, is when i've seen the best results. i kicked and screamed and got the usual BS, but after filing with the BBB, i got the most courteous service.

ryanbab

my suggestion get it documented

Dont threaten or mention anything to the service dept.

Call or email gm customer assistance and express your concerns about the engine knock and tell them what your service center told you about it (normal etc). See if they offer it.

This is exactly what i did and got the warranty. My service dept didnt even get involved.

rayt2

E-Mail me a fax number I can send you a copy of my extended component warranty to, that should help state your case. How many miles on your truck now? When did you first notice the knock? GM is trying to get all it's dealers to deny any problems w/knock condition and have gone so far as to revise the original TSB stating it was a problem to being no problem at all now, imagine that!
What ever happened to honesty & integrity in business! It's a thing of the past I guess, too bad. Look how many people got screwed by the lack of integrity by ENRON executives, what are they teaching the younger generation our future execs, that it's OK to cheat if you can get away with it!
It's sickening I tell ya! and GM is no better.

Ray T.

quadrunner500

Seelig has a GM head unit with CD player. Maybe you could make him a trade for some service manuals? LOL!

markbuck

My poor memory coming back to bite me!

What's with all this talk about extended warranties for engine noise?

My 6.0 makes normal lifter noise (at least normal compared to all the Ford/GM hydraulic V-8's and I6's I've owned) during startup but I'm not really worried about the engine not lasting 200,000 miles....

whatsachevy

My '01 Chevy 2500HD 4X4 EC 6.0/4.10 developed a pinging, if I remember right, about 5K-6K. I switched to 91 octane and the ping basically went away. I talked to my service manager and he said GM recommends 87 octane. I put 87 octane back in and the ping came back, maybe even a little worse than before. I took the service manager for a ride and he agreed it wasn't right. They reprogrammed the computer at about 7K. Ping went completely away and has not returned (even when pulling 7000 lbs). I have burned nothing but 87 octane since and now have 14K on truck. I also have the cold engine start-up knock. I got the 5yr/100K engine warranty for piece of mind. I never intended for anyone to tear into my motor. I am not really worried about engine longevity due to this knock. If you rev the motor a little and get some oil to the top of the motor, the knock immediately goes away. My buddy's 97 GMC with 350 has knocked since almost new. He is very hard on his truck, doesn't service it when he is supposed to and now has almost 100K without any oil consumption, smoke or anything else (and the engine's stick knockin' and rockin').

obyone

But I think Toyota has that already covered. I keep it simple changing at 5k intervals makes it easy for me to rememeber. I remember once taking the valve covers off of a 71 camaro with a 305. Talk about sludge, needed a putty knife to take all that stuff out of the valve cover. Also remember a 95 corolla which hadn't been serviced since day one with 16,000 miles on it. No sludge, only 2 qts of oil left, and a oil filter that needed a pipe wrench to take off.

mpalombo

Mine isn't a ping it's a knock. I actually thought I was lucky, I've read about people having this knock and I never had it. I started hearing it at around 20,000 miles, I currently have 24,000. If I let the truck warm up before driving it then I don't hear it, it only happens if I start it up and drive it right away. Thanks everybody for the information.

Ray - I don't have a fax machine but my wife does at work. If I get that number tomorrow would you be able to send the fax during the day?

Thanks,
-Mark

danog

What is the redline on the 5.3? The tach doesn't show red and it goes up to 6000 rpms. Not that I plan on running to the red line but I'd still like to know.

Dano

mpalombo

Hi everybody,

I dropped off my truck at the dealer tonight. They are going to check it for knocking tomorrow morning and then do the TSB for the steering shaft. A while back I posted a question about weather TSB would be covered after the warranty and nobody answered, I figured you might like to know this. The service advisor said that if your truck is not covered under warranty then any work done on it regardless of weather it is a TSB will be charged to you. On another kind of funny note, we were talking about the know and I said that my main concern was that GM will finally admit there is a problem AFTER my 36,000 mile warranty is up and then I'm S.O.L. His response.... "Don't worry about that, GM would take care of you" I had to bite my tongue to stop myself from laughing.

I'll give an update tomorrow after I talk to them.

On another note, I was at Walmart the other day and they had a huge sign that say "We will not be undersold on any tire". Under the sign they had BFG Radial All Terrains size LT265/70/16 for 119.00 each. I wish I had the extra money for them right now!

-Mark

obyone

Default shift point at WOT is 5600 rpms.

rayt2

E-mail me the fax number, I wont get to it till thursday or friday, I'm doing my (choke) civic duty and on jury duty this week, so I am not at work.

Ray T.

mpalombo

I'll get the number tomorrow and email it to you. Thanks.

Mark

black_silver

I have a 2001 LT XC with the 5.3L engine, automatic, and 3.73 locking rear. I regularly pull heavy loads, including a 6400# RV. Even in serious grades (6% and greater) this engine has never pinged using 87 octane gas.

Hans

black_silver

The 5.3L generates maximum HP at something like 4.2K RPM. I generally try to keep mine under 4.5K.

Hans

rayt2

I'll scan the document then e-mail it to you in either Word or Word Perfect format, that will be easier than a fax.

Ray T.

obyone

Haven't heard that one in a while. People still use it? hehe.........

mpalombo

Thanks Ray, I'd appreciate that.

Obyone, I think Word will convert from Word Perfect. I may still have a copy of WP somewhere, of course it might be on a 5 1/4 floppy, then I'm screwed...lol.

So I picked up the truck today. They did the TSB for the steering shaft, the invoice reads "Installed lube kit as per service bulletin" Is that what you guys had done? I thought it was a part that was replaced? It seems better, the steering seems tighter than it was before, could be my imagination.

They also put on the invoice "Checked for noise from engine when first started. Ticking noise - goes away as engine warms up. Documented customer concern for future reference"

I guess it's time for the BBB.

-Mark

obyone

I guess GM figured that the binding of the intermediate steering shaft was caused by the lack of lubrication. I wonder how many of their rocket scientists it took to figure that one.....

seelig

can't say you didn't give it the 'ol college try eh?
BBB is a lot easier than you think, but you did the right thing in giving the dealer a shot at being involved. makes it a stronger case for you.
i have a friend here that just had his I shaft serviced and they did the lube thing on his as well. my concern is how long it lasts.......

mpalombo

"my concern is how long it lasts....... "

I was thinking the same thing.

seelig

if you want, i can email you the name and number of the GM representative that issued the ext. warranty to me. he was pretty cool to deal with, and seem most interested in meeting my needs.

mpalombo

Sure, any extra information that I can get is probably a good thing.

Thanks.
-Mark

rayt2

Ya mean NY State OMH is a little behind in the technology??? I'll let are network person know LOL

xyz71

I put a nice big rip in my leather seat last week. Comb in back pocket caught a seam. I took it in to dealer and ask if they would fix it under warranty. My lucky day - service writer said they were having some kind of contest and if I would fill out a survey (and maybe give them all 5's wink, wink) he would have it fixed. My warranty expires at the end of next month, so as long as my truck was in they did a complete check. To my TOTAL AMAZEMENT they also replaced the battery. Said it was only putting out 10.5 volts, also replaced the A/C blower motor - something about noise when on low speed. I had not even noticed these problems.

mgdvhman

uses to do stuff all the time that I didn't think I needed......perhaps to get more cake from GM?

My truck has been doing the sticky throttle thingee about every 3rd time it sits now.....just tap it hard once and it's good as new....

perhaps when I find the cab filter in the garage, I'll get a can of WD out and fix it!

Good Luck on this one now!

- Tim

rayt2

I had mine replaced also under the first TSB but now have a noticeable rubber rubbing noise whenever turning wheel left or right since it was replaced, I wonder what they screwed up now!

Obyone, what was that updated TSB that just says to lube instead of replace?? can you post it so I can print it out and take to dealer?

Also had my "Low Coolant" idiot light come last night, checked level and all seems fine to me...now what *#^@*!

Ray T.

mpalombo

Well I just got off the phone with GM customer service....

First let me start by saying Thanks to Ray for the letter. I didn't, and I will not give your name or any other information but it was nice to have it so I could read it to them.

So this is my story (and I'm sticking to it)...

I went on the BBB website to start the proceedings and the first thing they ask is weather you contacted the manufacturer directly, so I figure I have not so I better do that.
I call GM and give them my VIN and tell them that I am calling about the engine knock problem on the 5.3 and that I had my dealer verify the problem yesterday. She asks who the dealer was and I told her. She told me to hold for 5-7 minutes while she checked a few things out. At this time I never mentioned the ext. warranty. The service advisor at my dealer knew that I knew about it but GM did not. She comes back on the phone a few minutes later and says, "I understand that your aware of the protection plan being offered" I assume she called the dealer. I said, "you mean the extended warranty covering the engine?" She snaps back that it's not an extended warranty, it has nothing to do with the GM vehicle warranty plan. So she starts talking in corporate legalese and I stop her and I start reading the letter that Ray sent me about coverage of the engine components for a period of 5 years or 100,000 miles. She stops me and says, "I am familiar with the contents of the letter". So I ask if that’s being offered to me and she says, "Nothing is being offered to you at this time, we have to do some leg work and you might receive the letter in a few days" I say, "The letter that I just read to you?" She says, "Yes"…. Talk about mumbo jumbo! So if I am understanding this correctly it looks like I am going to be offered the "extended warranty". Of course I could be wrong. Who knows?

I'll keep you posted.
-Mark

obyone

Consider for a moment that GM Customer Service is a contractor who works for GM providing assistance in dealing with problems relating to your vehicle on behalf of GM. Now they offer a letter stating that your engine will be covered up to 5/100. Even if it is on a GM letterhead, how much is it actually worth?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that it's worthless. Is there anyway of verifying that it is what it says it is? And yes, I've read the letter and that's why I'm asking.

mpalombo

Good point.

I guess it's just one better than what the service advisor told me yesterday when I said that my main concern was that GM comes out with a fix AFTER my factory warranty expires. His response "Don't worry, GM will take care of you"

-Mark

obyone

to put that in writing? I'm sure he'll have a good laugh.

It's like when I found this weird sponge looking item glued to the inside of my door. It really looked like it shouldn't be there, more so since the driver's side didn't have it.

When I questioned the service advisor, he told me not to worry about it and nothing bad will come of it. Before I could say anything, he said, "No, you can't have that in writing".