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  • sklnrzssklnrzs Member Posts: 4
    It was the AWD. Glad to hear you think it was a good deal. Thanks.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,583
    Sounds like a good deal. Do you mind if I ask the mrsp and where you bought it?
  • jpiatchekjpiatchek Member Posts: 177
    I bought a FX35 AWD with Tech, roof rails, mud guards and cargo protector about 5 weeks ago for for $42200. I believe list was about 46175. That was about $25 better than Grubbs Infiniti would do. I'd say you got a great deal! Concerning the heading on the navigation, I believe if you look in the nav manual there is a way to change the settings to read either the direction you are heading or north. Good luck!
  • psb1013psb1013 Member Posts: 92
    With all these stories about people buying the FX w/big discounts makes you wonder how successful the FX is doing in the market so far. I've seen ads where dealers have too many FX's on their lots and were discounting heavily to get rid of 'em I've also been hearing rumors recently that people locally were able to get deals on the FX very close to invoice! I remember when I bought my X5 in 2001, BMW was still marking up the car pretty heavily even though it came out the year before. I have a feeling when fall rolls around you can get a '03 FX for a unbelievable price. Kind of makes you wonder how long Infiniti will keep the FX around if it's not making a good profit for 'em.
  • bpraxisbpraxis Member Posts: 292
    There is no question that the FX is a niche vehicle that is ahead of its time. It seems to appeal to the individual who wants to make a stong styling statement with a high fun to drive quotient.

      This is probably not a large market although I applaud Infiniti for taking the risk and producing such fun product. We know that the FX is not the most practicle of the sports utes in its class.

      The Lexus has 17 more cubic feet of storage space that the FX for the same price option for option. You also have better resale value and qualtiy on the Lexus.

      But the Infiniti is just so much fun. I will probably order the 2004 when they correct some of the initial problems.

      But then have to look at the new BMW X3. What a great time to be in the market for a new vehicle. I would not want to be an American car manufacturer right now with all of their problems, ( pension liabilities, hight debt, lack of competitive product, etc....)
  • hootspahootspa Member Posts: 11
    will hurt the vehicles image and kill the resale value; a common problem with Infiniti, but not with BMW, Lexus or Porsche. I hope they wise-up and cut production.
  • daschtickdaschtick Member Posts: 63
    "will hurt the vehicles image and kill the resale value; a common problem with Infiniti, but not with BMW, Lexus or Porsche."

    I agree, but it's awesome for a used car buyer like myself!
  • clpurnellclpurnell Member Posts: 1,083
    While I benefited from aggressive discounting I think it can be a bad thing also. However the G35 continues to sell very well yet is available for near invoice, same thing for the acura TL, etc. Also the RX330 non nav models are being discounted 1500-2k and they have been out less time. Even the vaunted MDX is receiving discounts. Other than the XC90 (my local dealer does have stock in these too) all midsize SUV's are seeing some type of discounting. As long as infiniti isn't throwing tons of dealer cash or rebates I think the FX will do ok. The G sedan while being disocunted has no dealer cash on it same for the TL. Yes the dealers have stock and are dealing from invoice but they are still turning over product. My local dealer who always have 60+ g's and Fx's in stock still sells 100 combined a month. That is not to bad. it is just when you have product that you can't sell and it just sits on the lots for months where you have trouble on your hands. I think the FX will do fine. I am very into cars of all types and have yet to keep a car pass 30 months but the FX seems to be an auto I could keep long past that. I probably wouldn't though cuz then I can trade my 35 on a 06 45 or 56 or whatever they have out by then :)

    On the x3 I believe it will be no comparison to the fx. The x5 already gives up space and performance to the FX I don't think the x3 will be much competition. It is more in the land rover freelander and turbo forester class.
  • bpraxisbpraxis Member Posts: 292
    Hello everyone and I hope that you are having a great day.

      The new X3 is supposed to have ample storage space, much more that the X5 with a very reasonable price tag. The price range is supposed to be $31,000 to $37,000.

      And of course you have the BMW prestige with good resale value.

     Then again the FX is simply a stronger styling statement with probably better quality?
  • etc42etc42 Member Posts: 8
    I'm deciding between the 2wd vs AWD.
    I've owned a 300zx for 10 years, I like cornering performance.
    How significant a difference is it between the 2?
    What is the breakdown rate of adding an additional axle?
    What about cost of repairs of the extra axle?
    How much extra boost do I get for acceleration from the AWD?
    The advantages of either in LA crazed traffic?
  • sklnrzssklnrzs Member Posts: 4
    Sorry it took so long to respond....been driving.
    regarding the pricing. I got the deal at Infinity dealer in Concord Calfornia. Don't have MSRP in front of me but will get back to you. Out the door with Tax, Title, Delivery etc etc at just over $45K for the FX35 Diamond Graphite Tech Package, AWD Roof rfails and splash guards.
    OCncerning the navigation system I figured out that you canpt hafve the true north heading in the birdseye view only the plain view. It was an excersice in futilty.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    "Then again the FX is simply a stronger styling statement with probably better quality?"

    Yes it is a stronger styling statement, no doubt. But I think the X5 has more overall panache. I'm not a fan of Infinitis/Nissan new styling direction.
  • himilerhimiler Member Posts: 1,209
    Without the roundel, the X5 could be mistaken for a tarted-up Izuzu.

    It's difficult to confuse the FX with anything else.

    The new Maxima, however, is a mess.
  • sysadbsysadb Member Posts: 83
    PSB1013, discounting does not mean Infiniti is not making money. It means the dealers are not making as much money as perhaps they'd like to. How much money Infiniti makes on the FX depends on how many they sell (given the usual costs), and whether they have to subsidize them - which they don't. Infiniti makes the same money whether the dealer gets list price or sells them at invoice. Dealers will sell them for whatever the market dictates (which is now at a profit), if for no other reasons than to get them off their floor plan (inventory loan balance), or to get new service customers "on the books". This vehicle is a large success for Infiniti.
  • psb1013psb1013 Member Posts: 92
    The X5 is no longer an exciting car as it used to be. When I bought mine back in '01, it was a real head-turner. Now, I see at least 8-10 of 'em everyday on my commute. My FX45 literally turns heads everywhere I go. And since Infiniti plans on not making them as much as the average SUV, hopefully it'll stay "cool" for a while.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,583
    For now the Fx is a real novelty. They are getting more plentiful here in the SW on the streets and with the inventory large at the local Infiniti dealers, the novelty will wear as is has with the G35. I know because I was one of the original G35 local owners.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    In my neck of the woods there are more S500s than Civics. I never judge a cars' supposed exclusiveness by how many I see on my morning commute. I never buy a car because I think there will be only a few on the road, because that only lasts a short while. I still find the X5 to be a head turner in spite of the above comments, but I can't get into the new Infiniti shapes. All cars grow mundane, even Ferraris, if you see enough of them. I used to be a loyal Nissan person, but there were no Infiniti offerings that inspired me when I was looking and my local Nissan dealer was not dealing. I think their basic design philosophy will not hold up over time. But I vote with my dollars the same as you and today my dollars are not swinging toward Infiniti.
  • jpiatchekjpiatchek Member Posts: 177
    As an FX35 owner I would agree that the FX is more fun. I'll also agree that the Lexus probably has better resale. Will disagree on the isuue that the Lexus quality is better the the FX. As you mention, option for option, the pricing is very similar.However, upon careful comparison, the end product is much different. That equal price comparison will just about get you the sport package on the FX with the better suspension and 20" wheels and tires. Instead of the 132 watt stereo on the Lexus, you get an eleven speaker Bose with 300 watts. Most important is the extra 50 hp on the FX. Extra horsepower costs money, about $6000 to get the extra hp of the FX45. If the extra hp and handling were available on the Lexus you would have about a $6000 more expensive vehicle. However, for about the same money, instead of getting a boring styled, mediocre handling, mediocre powered SUV with 17 extra feet of storage, you get an exhilarating performing unique styled 'Sport Wagon'(right Crikey?)that's more fun than a barrel of monkeys,IMO!
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    I've sat in both, the RX330 is by far the better quality vehicle. Lexus must be doing right to see these things like hotcakes. Not everybody cares about performance. I'm not saying anything against the FX, but IMO I call 'em like I see 'em. Infinity cannot compete with Lexus in this department, although those who compare HP and torque will like the FX. Lexus does not get into the same game as Infinti and they know who they're market is and who buys their vehicles. I'm not so sure Infinti really knows who they are marketing to.
  • jpiatchekjpiatchek Member Posts: 177
    I appreciate the fact that you can't get into the new Infiniti shapes-especially the new FX. It seems like people either love it or hate it. I, too, am a BMW fan and I vote with my dollars the same as you. I voted to buy an FX35 tech and sell my 99 540i sport. I love my current 98 M3 and I have owned a new E46 M3. I can't wait for the evenings and weekends to get a chance to drive my wife's FX. BMW's are wonderful, exciting cars, but for the money it's hard to beat the excitement and fun of the FX. THe X5 has never done much for me.
  • clpurnellclpurnell Member Posts: 1,083
    you know what I guess you got tired of tromping on the G boards and decided to bring your anti infiniti views here. If you don't like the products don't come here. You won't see me on any of the BMW boards.

    clpurnell/bmwslayer
  • daschtickdaschtick Member Posts: 63
    "However, for about the same money, instead of getting a boring styled, mediocre handling, mediocre powered SUV with 17 extra feet of storage, you get an exhilarating performing unique styled 'Sport Wagon'(right Crikey?)that's more fun than a barrel of monkeys,IMO!"

    I whole heartedly agree! I've looked at the Lexus; It is very nice, and definitely will appeal to a far broader market than the FX. But the FX has been by far my biggest automotive surprise of the last several years. If you are a performance car enthusiast who needs some utility, I highly recommend trying one.

    While casually looking at some G35 Coupes on a dealer lot, I took a peak at the FX just to see what it was like. The interior turned out to be far nicer and roomier than I had imagined, and I was kind of digging the muscular shape of the exterior with the long hood, and those big 20" meats. While admiring it, a sales person came out and told me that if I liked the G35, I should try out the FX, so I obliged.

    MAN, that thing was fun! The chassis handling and braking was outstanding, and even with just the V6, it really scoots. Sure, it's not made for off-road use, lacks a third row seat, has somewhat small cargo capacity, and can only tow 3500 lbs., but for my needs, it is PERFECT!

    I've been (unhappily) looking for a mid-size SUV for my wife which would allow me to carry the family, and tow my boat, but we've never cared for their driving dynamics. The FX has proven that I can have my cake and eat it too. It's NOT for everyone, but for a select few, it is the ultimate combination.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    Frankly, I would probably love the way FX drives for I've seen the performance side of driving vs. a passive steer it and hope it goes in that direction side. Styling aside, as it is a personal preference, I cannot see the utility of these vehicles and vehicles on the same genre from other manufacturers. That's why I'm not driving an X5, probably won't even look at the X3 or other cross-overs from other manufacturers.

    I do have one big SUV that has lots of room and seats 7. During the winter here, it was great as it gave a feeling of security driving through 12-15" of snow with AT type tires. During one of the worst winter storms, an idiot plow operator, plowed me in up to my bumper. I put it in reverse and backed it up over the mound like it wasn't even there. I've piled 7 with a lot of extra stuff everybody had room. I can see the utility in this vehicle and am willing to pay the gas. I can't see these in-between vehicles that sort of seat five that sort of have a higher ground clearance with bigger tires. But I know other people do like them as there is a market and they do sell. Good luck with your vehicle.
  • psb1013psb1013 Member Posts: 92
    As a previous owner of a '99 Lexus RX300, I would say these cars are OVERHYPED. If you like cutesy styling, nice storage bins, a Cadillac-ride, and you are a FEMALE, then it's for you. I disagree with a previous post saying that Lexus has better quality. My RX300 had alternator failures, differential breakdowns, and various electrical problems all in the first couple years. The quality of my FX45 rivals anything built by Lexus, BMW, or Mercedes. And as far as the performance issue goes........of course, it's important! Sure, it may not be the "top" priority on every car buyer's list, but if it's not what people want, then why the heck did Lexus increase h.p and torque on the new Lexus 330? (They could have just restyled it and left the engine the same....but nooo...people complained it was too slow!) Some people may not like what Infiniti are bringing out these days, but I, for one, appluad them for having the creativity and guts to do something exciting in the auto market and not just follow what everyone else is doing just to please the crowd.
  • jpiatchekjpiatchek Member Posts: 177
    You've sat in both the Fx and Rx330.Have you done an extensive test drive in both? I have. Could you be confusing quality with plushness,or perhaps sales vulume with quality. As we've said on this board before, if we went by sales volume everyone would own a Taurus and say it was better quality because they sold more. You state that "Not everybody cares about performance", but that guy certainly can't be you or you wouldn't own a BMW 330 and lust for an M3. You know that performance costs money. Infiniti has chosen to build a sport vehicle instead of a nondescriptive luxury vehicle. For the people Infiniti designed the FX for-performance is all-important. They knew what they were doing and made a daring statement.Infiniti(the Q) has typically built much more of a drivers car than a plush luxury vehicle(LS or RX). This has nothing to do with quality. I've owned 7 BMW's 2 Lexus"s and 5 infiniti's. Infiniti quality will compete favorably with BMW or Lexus on any day-any time. The frequency of repair is far better on Infiniti's than BMW's! They didn't try or want to make it into a Lexus. Infiniti knows who they designed the car for, they just don't know what to call it or how to effectively market it. Therein lies the problem. They've been confused on that with the Q45 for many years as well. Here again, the Q has never sold as well as the LS400, but the driving experience was miles apart and please don't confuse that with quality issues! Ain't so!. Please, although you may not like the shape, go drive the FX and the RX and then report back. Maybe then I will listen.
  • psb1013psb1013 Member Posts: 92
    Once again, the FX is NOT, I repeat, NOT a utility vehicle. It is NOT a SUV. It is NOT a truck. It is a sports-touring, all-weather wagon which just happens to be a few inches taller than your average car. The FX was built for people who got sick of driving SUV's and wanted a vehicle which performs like a sports car but has a hatchback, all-wheel drive, and an elevated driving position. It continues to amaze me how people still compare the FX to RX's, Explorers, and even Escalades! If you want a SUV, then DON'T buy a FX!
  • jpiatchekjpiatchek Member Posts: 177
    I agree! I agree! I agree!-It's also been built for people who have been driving sport sedans who want RWD, AWD, more room and possibly an elevated driving positon. It is NOT an SUV. Amen
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    a Crossover?

    It's getting more and more blurred out there in the car world. I think this topic originated in Wagons until it got moved to SUVs.

    Steve, Host
  • dcrozdcroz Member Posts: 4
    I wanted the FX REALLY bad! I went to the dealer weekly to look at it and drove it 3 or 4 times. The FX was everything I wanted. However, the vehicle was for my wife and she liked the extra comfort that the RX provided. She pointed out that she liked the RX look better (which I strongly disagreed with), she liked the extra room, and even though the FX stereo had more power, she liked the sound of the RX stereo more (and I tended to agree with that). In the end, we got the RX, but she had to drag me to the dealer to get it.
    Both are great vehicles, but they are different (I did get the performance package to get some say!)
  • daschtickdaschtick Member Posts: 63
    I agree with everyone who says that the FX is NOT an SUV - it isn't. It is a tall wagon based off of the G35, and offers more cargo room and towing capacity than any sedan or coupe. It is not intended for off road use, and I'd bet without snow tires, it's probably not that great in winter either - just like a......Sports Car!

    It is definitely unique and aimed squarely at the enthusiast who needs more room than a typical car can offer. The general public need not apply. As I've stated before, the select few who get into an FX for it's virtues will consider it the ultimate vehicle, while others will never quite understand it. Simply look at the "consumer ratings" for the FX models, currently at 9.3 - higher than just about every other vehicle with over 10 votes, and you will read from people who actually own an FX, and feel that it is outstanding combination.

    I'll leave you with this quote I like from Ron Kiino in February's Car and Driver:

    "After driving the FX45 and carefully looking at it from every angle, I tried to think what it reminded me of. The car that came to mind wasn't a sport-utility vehicle or a station wagon or even a sports sedan. It was the BMW M coupe (my apologies to worshippers of the roundel). Both vehicles stand out like chukka boots next to Nikes. Both are fast, stiff, and grippy (the FX more so than the M!) and can stop from 70 mph in Porschelike fashion. And neither makes any qualms about it. These are sports machines that somehow make unattractive appealing. If you don't like how they ride or look, then get the hell out—just leave me the keys."
  • psb1013psb1013 Member Posts: 92
    See what I mean when I say the RX is a "Chic Magnet!" From my experience, the majority of women seem to be turned off by the FX's "masculine" properties: big, loud engine, stiff ride, lack of large storage areas, and "intimidating" appearance. I really beleive Infiniti intentionally designed the FX to appeal primarily to men who were turned off by the SUV market (now dominated by women). Just as the RX is designed to attract mostly women.
  • himilerhimiler Member Posts: 1,209
    The RX330 is a great car for people who know exactly what they DON'T want.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    himiler - you would be lucky enough in your lifetime to produce any product that nobody wants that is a runaway success.
  • himilerhimiler Member Posts: 1,209
    I don't believe in luck.

    Thanks for the generous sentiment, though!
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    We can talk about luck. I do believe in luck. I do believe that some very wealthy people were lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time. I do believe that the combination of luck and skill enabled some great rewards for these people. And without both, they wouldn't be where they are today. I do believe luck is another word for pre-destiny.

    Good luck in not believing in luck. :)
  • himilerhimiler Member Posts: 1,209
    "Pre-destiny?"

    What kind of philosophical mumbo-jumbo is that?

    On second thought, never mind.
  • crikeycrikey Member Posts: 1,041
    Going by what State Farm put on my insurance card, the FX is a Sport Wagon. I actually couldn't care less what anybody wants to call it, I just call it my grin machine.

    However, to say that the FX does not have utility is wrong. In fact, I just finished hauling a bombe chest very similar to this and had no problems making it fit.

    On a previous errand, I bought about 16 boxes of laminate flooring plus 2 boxes of the installation kit and the FX swallowed it without any problems.

    And over the weekend, I bought a children's set of table and chairs + bench, easel, wall hangers, and a couple of bags of groceries. And on this trip, I had the whole family with me. I did not put anything on the roof rack since everything fit in the cargo area.

    The utility of the FX depends on how one uses it. I would not haul a ton of mulch, soil or trees in it (I would actually have this delivered). But for the little odds and ends, it works flawlessly.

    Note to self: Why am I buying so much stuff??? Hmm...
  • gohanr1gohanr1 Member Posts: 1
    I have an FX with 20" wheels. At night the low beam lights seem to project about 4 feet in front of the car. It is so bad that I have come close to having accidents because I can not see. If I try to go from the right side of the street across the intersection I can not see if there is a car parked or a person walking on the other side. I mostly drive with high beams at night which give plenty of light. I have had a Q4 and an I 30 with HD light with no problems. I had the "factory engineers look at the car and they told me the lights are aimed to specification. I could not get them to test it after dark. I am wondering if the 20" wheels make a difference? Anyone with the same problem?
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    "What kind of philosophical mumbo-jumbo is that?"

    Probably the same mumbo-jumbo, mostly mumbo, that is going now. :)
  • crikeycrikey Member Posts: 1,041
    I've had no problems with the HIDs. I actually think that they're really great. At night, I don't use my fog lamps on unlit highways anymore, when I used to do this in my 2001 Nissan Pathfinder. I actually haven't used the fog lamps yet, haven't found a need to.

    Stupid question, maybe your manual leveler is set to 3, i.e. focused downwards? Since you've had the factory engineers look at the car, I assume this not to be the case. I always have mine set to 0.
  • marinelomarinelo Member Posts: 7
    Just got my FX35 with the electronic package,its incredible!I don't care what you call it,& how much you paid for yours,or what you want to a compare it to. I just love it!! and thats no mumbo jumbo!!
    Going to drive all weekend....
  • himilerhimiler Member Posts: 1,209
    marinelo -- Congrats on the cool ride! Shiny side up!
  • blckthreeblckthree Member Posts: 153
    While I have not had any trouble with the HID's, it was an adjustment to get used to them. I had never had them before and I don't think they do as good a job of illuminating things along side the road, like signs and pedestrians and things like that. It seems like most of the light goes to the ground in front and out on the sides, but with a conventional headlight, more of the light goes higher to give you better lighting of signs and things higher than 3 feet off the ground. If it is less than 3 feet, you can see it great though.

    They do put more light on the road, but it is just a different lighting pattern than a conventional headlight.

    The brights is another story.. you can see forever with those on!
  • hootspahootspa Member Posts: 11
    The rearview mirrors are too large and mounted too high and they block a significant amount of the front quarter sight lines; I know, I almost hit a cyclist who was in the large blind spot created by these mirrors. The rear quarter views are pretty limited too, so I added convex spot mirrors which help a little.
      
    On another sour note, does anybody out there think the service intervals are too frequent? My Porsche required oil changes at 12000 mile intervals, not 4000. Of course, they specified Mobil 1 oil. My dealer gave me some BS about why Infiniti requires old-fashioned mineral oil and very frequent service intervals (and they are not covered as in BMW and Audi).
  • stanny1stanny1 Member Posts: 962
    I haven't used Dino oil in my cars since 1974, when Amsoil came out. Rear end, trannys also. First oil change on my FX45 was to 5-30 Mobil 1.
    40% of a can of Dino oil is additives to counteract all the bad characteristics of mineral oil. Synthetics, on the other hand, are built molecule by molecule to do the best job. Regular oil has either asphalt or paraffin and attracts water.
    Any synthetic oil is superior to Dino oil. The best are Mobil 1 and Amsoil. The least "synthetic" is Castrol's Syntec, which is only a modified Dino oil, but even it is better than Dino oil. But at Castrol's price, you can buy a "real" synthetic.
    Costco sells Mobil 1 at a great price.
  • jpiatchekjpiatchek Member Posts: 177
    I've had the same problem. They are bright as hell, but when going down hill, particularly,they seem like they project right in front of the vehicle and I easily overdrive them. I had the service manager copy the adjustment procedure out of the service manual and fax it too me. There are a coupe of small access holes almost near the fender on the top side of the cowl. I moved the adjustment up slightly and it made a world of difference. Don't seem to get any highlight flashes from oncoming and I can see much further out. If you get it too high you can back off with the manual adjustment on the dash. Takes just a few minutes once you find the adjustment. Hope this helps.
  • jpiatchekjpiatchek Member Posts: 177
    I don't think I would go 12000 miles between and oil changes no matter what the manual said, particularly on a $75000 automobile like the Porsche. I believe the Fx manual specifies two schedules at 3750 and 7500 based on driving style.We're talking $25.00 on a $40-50000 vehicle to have the oil changed. That's pretty cheap insurance!
  • jpiatchekjpiatchek Member Posts: 177
    If you are not enamored by the new shapes of Infiniti, love BMW's and think the quality of the RX is much superior to the Infiniti FX, why have your last 5 posts been on the Infiniti FX board? Could it be you are really a closet FXer in drag?
  • stanny1stanny1 Member Posts: 962
    Yes, it's cheap to buy Mobil 1 at Costco for about $4.00 a quart and change the oil yourself, even at 3750 mile intervals.
    One of the reasons that European schedules are longer is that their gasoline is more refined and has less sulfur, as BMW found out after replacing U.S. engines some years ago due to excessive ring/wall wear.
    It's not worth it to do changes at 7500 and more. The oil still lubricates, but even Synthetic gets dirty at the same rate.
    Dino oil is toast after about 4000 miles. The viscosity improvers (VI) that make the oil thinner when cold and thicker when hot (opposite of Dino oil's natural chacteristics) are resins with the ability to go through just a limited # of temperature cycles. After about 4k, that chemical soup, with water added from combustion,sulfur and other gasoline contaminants, hardly looks or behaves like Dino oil anymore.
    At least synthetic resists water and fuel contamination much better than Dino oil, which has an affinity for both. Try washing Syn off with just plain soap and water. I have to use laquer thinner.
    Syn oil also has much better temperature resistance. Dino oil cooks off near the top piston land, creating coke that eventually makes the top ring fail to expand. This is the #1 path to eventual engine failure.
    Coking is the #1 reason turbos fail. The bearings cook Dino oil and go bad, especially after the engine is off and the oil pressure goes to zero. You would have to be crazy to run a turbo with Dino oil with its low "flash point".
    Syn oil is the best investment you can make for your car.
  • 93fsu193fsu1 Member Posts: 97
    I will be getting mine soon. And it is not soon enough. After a very thorough test drive it is the first vehicle that I have ever felt was made just for me. Everything else has been a compromise.

    There is absolutely no comparison with any other SUV that can be made. And don't sell its offroad capabilities short. You didn't get a good test drive if you think that.
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