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One "small" problem...the dealer accidently ordered the rear seat entertainment system. My 8-year-old is delighted, but I'm not too happy with a grand more cost.
The good news is I'm getting the vehicle at invoice.
This Sunday I'm attending Chrysler's "Art of Driving" event just outside of NYC where I'll be able to drive the Pacifica and Crossfire. I've already seen the Pacifica at the autoshow, and I think it's great. The interior is amazingly well built, especially considering all the abuse the autoshow cars go through - I think the Pacifica was one of the few cars I sat in that wasn't ripped to pieces. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to driving the Pacifica this weekend. While I'm not in the market for one, I really am a big fan, and expect it to be a hit for Chrysler. From what I saw at the auto show, the car will definitely help Chrysler in its return to premium-brand status.
also interested in svevar's comments on the crossfire, not that I'm in the market for it
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http://www.chrysler.com/artofdriving/eventlist.jsp?brand=C
-Svevar
Because I have a defective front center speaker, I have the fader set for rear-only, but it still sounds real good.
5* has a new speaker ordered.
I do NOT have the Sirrus radio.
300 miles and love the Pacifica so far. I'm still finding neat features.
What bothers me about the Pacifica is Chrysler is marketing as a revolutionary new crossover "Sports Tourer" when there's nothing novel about it. This may be what some people are looking for, but I'm not seeing the segment-busting innovative creativity. What company isn't building a 4,500lb, 17-foot long vehicle, call it wagon, van, SUV, SAV, "Sports-Tourer," or whatever, that seats 5 comfortably, 2 more uncomfortably and gets lousy gas mileage? OK, it's a hell of a lot better looking than the Buick Rendezvous, but what's the conceptual difference?
I find the whole "Sports Tourer" thing hilarious. Supposedly, the Pacifica was inspired by sport-touring motorcycles. My butt. Sport-touring motorcycles are lightly civilized sportbikes. The auto equivalent of the sport-tourer is the GT coupe, something like the Mercedes SL500 at the high end and the Toyota Celica at the low end . . . not a chopped minivan.
I realize that most second and third-tier automakers rely on marketing rather than quality to sell their vehicles (Isuzu should be indicted for fraud for pretending their SUV's are still competitive in the marketplace) but DaimlerChrysler should be able to do better. In any case, the hype will wear pretty thin for the Pacifica owners who are hit up for $200 in gas money every month by their "carlike" Pacifica sport tourers.
You asked: "any other real owners on this thread?"
So far, I'm aware of Fijikm and Russklass. Also, I believe Flaverdave has a Pacifica on order. Perhaps he can tell us the expected delivery date.
Also, if anyone else here owns a Pacifica or has one on order, we look forward to hearing from you. Happy motoring!
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I just bought one last night, and I am very happy with it already. It is really comfortable, I took it on a long drive and it rides so smooth. I bought it fully loaded and the dealership was great, the invoice was $40700, and I got it for $34800. It is worth it!!!
And another guy gets one for $34,800 while
invoice is $40,700. My only question is what
is the sale volume target of Pacifica Chrysler
has? How many customers will buy Pacifica at
$32,000 tag while they can get T&C EX with Leather
at $26,000? I do not say that Pacifica is bad,
but I say that its price tag is too high.
MSRP was $32,125, I gave $30,500.
Can't wait for delivery. We've debated for a year and came close to buying a new v70, but my husband really liked the styling and safety of the Pacifica so we changed our minds after seeing it up close and personal.
We went out to eat earlier tonight and saw two Pacificas along the way. And I've been seeing lots of commercials for it lately. I really think Chrysler has a hit on its hands.
To jerrykoh - Sounds really nice! Thanks for sharing all the details. We look forward to hearing more....
Happy motoring everyone!
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As for the fog lights; with the headlamp switch in the parking light or low beam position, pull out on the end of the light stalk to turn on the fog lamps. push in to turn off. They will go out if you activate the high beams.
I urge all Pacifica owners to read the owners manual cover to cover. There are some really great features you will never find otherwise.
400 miles on mine so far and lovin' it!
I need some help, my navigation dvd is scratched bad and I didn't noticed it at first and now it is not working, I called the dealership to see if they can replace it and nothing but the run around.... any suggestions?
The dealer should give you a good DVD with the car, if they don't, and won't help, blow them in to Chrysler!
Enjoy it while it lasts - cause it won't. I have been looking at a Pacifica or a T&C because my 96 Blazer (with 55K) shakes on the highway. It didn't always shake, but sooner or later they always shake.
Good luck
More features and lower price than Acura MDX...and they won't deal.
Feature for feature, lower price than Town & Country, although no rebate.
I mine bought at invoice, more then $3,000 less than MSRP, and since it is a 2004 model, I get a "free" 6 month ride on depreciation.
I'd love to know how you calculated the Pacifica is "overpriced."
The dealer actually showed me "their" invoice which was $563 more than the invoice price listed on sites with pricing configurators with options. It was due to two "regional" advertising type items that I figure are ways to pad the invoice in case someone asks to see it and hasn't looked on the internet. I ended up striking a deal for $310 over this invoice price or total $873 over website listed invoice prices with exact options. I previously bought an Explorer not off add and paid invoice for it in 1995. I know we are dealing with 2 different companies and don't know a single person who has bought a Chrysler so had no idea how close I'd get to invoice, especially on a car that has only been on the lots for 2 months and would expect them to maximize profits. I've only ever beaten invoice pricing by buying a car off newspaper ad and settling for the exact car listed in the ad which is a loss leader to the dealer anyway. I will be interested to see how soon rebates or incentives are offered on the Pacifica just like all the others. Since I was able to strike what in my opinion was a fair deal I bought it now instead of waiting.
I compared it to the MDX and felt this had much more interior room than the MDX, as it should it is a larger vehicle. For around the same price I feel I got a ton more options than the MDX. I also couldn't find an MDX locally that had a stock rear entertainment system. I would agree with the earlier post that Acura refuses to make a deal either. I am a previous Acura owner and thought it was MDX or nothing to get 3 rows of seating. I'm 6'0" and can easily get into the rear seat of the Pacifica, would never ride in the 3rd row of the MDX. Although it lacks headroom I rode with my oldest daughter in the 3rd row on a short trip to the store without complication.
When I purchased my Explorer I had to settle for one that didn't have every option I wanted, couldn't find a dealer that had one in stock and didn't want to special order. This time around I swore that I'd get a car with all the options that were important to me and not settle for anything less. The Pacifica actually had more than I wanted so unless the dealer really made me a deal I was ready to wait until I came across one not so loaded. However, use Chrysler's dealer search with inventory and you'll notice that they are building these either full load or with minimal options. The other thing that bothered me when viewing inventory online was that there were several that had almost all options but no rear entertainment system. I'm thankful that I was able to find one with rear entertainment and not Navigation. If I had Navigation I'd want it in the center of the dash and not in the speedometer section.
Key features for our family of four with a 6'0" and 5'4" drivers. Dual memory settings for everything, not just the seats. This was definitely taken from MB models. Rear entertainment system built in and not have to do expensive aftermarket that Acura wants you to do to have monitors in the headrests instead of the stock drop down screen. Ability to let kids listen to the DVD player and Mom & Dad to listen to CD/radio/cassette up front. Our oldest can sit in the 3rd row with a friend and our toddler can sit in the second row securely latched and tethered in the seat. When we travel as a family with the 3rd row down it will be ample cargo space.
Still trying to figure out all the different climate control settings which is also a plus as I'm always hot and the wife always cold.
Bottom line for me was I could spend 35k+ on a BMW, MB or Lexus sedan for the wife and not have as much seating or available cargo space. In my opinion the Pacifica has all the luxuries of a luxury sedan, multiple driver memory settings, dual climate zones, 4 heated seats, and a kick butt 5.1 surround system and entertainment system stock which isn't even available currently in top of the line sedans. The AWD is also important to us as we live in the Northwest and like to travel in the mountains during the winter not to mention we must climb 1,000 ft. from the main road to get to our house.
Hoping we purchased a vehicle we will enjoy even more than our '95 Explorer.
The dealer ordered the ent. system in error, and we bought the vehicle at invoice.
We had the same experience as you over the $500+ in advertising fees, etc., but I checked it out, and it is legit. The charges don't show on the MSRP sticker because the public would balk at the charges.
Tip of the day: Read all the manuals carefully.
The front passenger HVAC temp setting is adjusted via the up/down temp buttons to the right of the display.
Hmmm, even before the rebate I was unable to configure a T&C LXi or even a GC ES for that matter to be more expensive than a similarly equipped Pacifica. Then of course there is that $3,500 rebate, which is nothing to sneeze at.
As it turns out, Mrs. Shipo made the decision, and she wanted the extra space that the MiniVan offers. As such, we just ordered a fairly well optioned Dodge GC ES. Personally, I was pulling for the Pacifica, or even a 525iT (5-Speed) for that matter. Oh well.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Like you, I too am very glad that we did not opt for the Honda (my wife is a clothing designer [non-permissible content removed] executive) and she thinks that the Oddy looks, well, odd. For her, that is the kiss of death.
All of that said, I would never compare the stability of a Caravan (touring suspension or not) to my SP equipped 530i, they simply are not in the same league. ;-)
Best Regards,
Shipo
PS
Funny thing about the $$$, after the rebate, the "Decked Out" 2003 GC ES is only costing about $3,000 more that the middle of the road 1998 GC Sport.
In the disc case for your Nav. DVD there is a coupon for a free, next generation, upgrade for the DVD Nav. disc which will be shipping the end of June. The regular price for these discs is/will be $150.00.
If you send in the coupon now, Barb will put you on the list for early shipment.
Actually, I wound up getting the best deal from my local dealer that is so small in volume they didn't even get allotted a Pacifica in this first round. Needless to say, they were anxious to deal in order to have their name on one of the first Pacificas around.
It might be worth a drive into a small market. I'm adding it to my list of reasons we moved back to the country.
Replacement turned out to be real simple; the grill just popped off to get at the speaker.
The Infinity 5.1 sound system is awsome .. been playing Phantom of the Opera all evening.
We're having a lot of fun with the Nav system too.
P.S. time to update your profile!
my wife gets lost often. Som Nav systems have this feature that at a push of a button calculates the best route home.
The system is loaded with features, and is very easy to use. A new DVD disc, due in June, will cover 90% of the US, and the lower part of Canada.
Buy a Pacifica now, and you get a free Nav DVD upgrade ( a $150 value ) in June.
The real wood kit matches the faux factory wood quite well, and the parts are very accurately cut.
The result looks great!
I'm sending photos the Joshua Tree, so there should be something on the web site soon, woodtrim.com
russklass - i went to the dealer to get an accessory catalog, they didn't have any, said it's too new, but did have a big book containing all the accessories, saw some body kits in the book, which look pretty sweet... ended up ordering the slush mats for all 3 rows, the bug shield and the bumper protection pad... they had a nice 10% discount, so i figured i couldn't go wrong... anyway, i did find an online pace to find out what accessories are available, however, it doesn't have pictures -http://www.mopar.com/index.html
I got the 6 CD/DVD changer but did not get the LCD entertainment center, wondering if i can actually look behind the center console and find a video out that i can just hook up to an LCD - anyone taken a look behind there yet?
Had a chance to speak to the mechanics at my dealership - they love the pacifica, but all admited that it's such a new car that they knew very little about it - promised that by my first oil change, they would be experts - i'm wondering if i'm going to be the guinie pig car owner for them. :P anyway, when asked if the pacifica's innards was in anyway similar to the other chrysler vehicles, they said it was TOTALLY different, more a benz, then an older chrysler, which is why they have to go through training really soon to get up to speed. All this was pretty interesting to me...
I ordered the bumper protector pad, envelope cargo net and cargo tray.
got 20% off all.
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