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but if you going to you'd better do it quickly, you won't want that to show as a "ghost" in the hood or on the sides.
I love my car just the way it is. She's a beauty. I have the daytona sport package.
Anyone know how to do that? I started to pull one off, but it looked like the emblem would come off but leave the adhesive pad on the car.
What's the trick?
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Has there been any word on the changes for the 2007 Charger? All I've seen is that there will likely be a limited production SRT8 Super Bee, and that the next two Daytona limited package colors will likely be lime green and dark purple.
I'm torn--I want to order my car *now*, but I hate doing so on the cusp of a new model year.
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install it,I thought that was a bargain.I'm very happy with the spoiler.
I just bought a Charger06 R/T. I love it so far. The best car I have ever bought! anyway, I wanted to do just a few small tweaks to it to boost the performance a little without impacting my gas millage or my warrenty. Anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks!
I get 19 MPG with "combo-driving" (mostly city, with a bit of Hwy mixed in). I still have not had a chance to do a tank on the hwy for true hwy mpg.
I have only had one issue with the car. When driving with the windows down at higher speeds (above 40), the headliner in the back would flap in the wind. Dealer fixed it, and no other issues...
FWIW...
I've joined this forum in an attempt to determine if my experiences are unique, or if others are having similar issues.
Nineteen days ago, I left my beloved 2002 Magnetic Red Corvette Coupe at the Dodge dealership, and picked up a 2006 Dodge Charger R/T "Daytona" in the "Top Banana" trim, to replace it (lease ended with equity in the 'Vette). The car is wonderful to drive in, as it has countless creature comforts, and a quiet but firm ride that almost lulls one to sleep in the plush suede/leather covered seats. The car is loaded, with no option omitted, as the XM, satellite navigation, and BlueTooth voice link are all things I sorely wanted in any new car that I purchased. To top it off, I get countless stares and many thumbs up as I drive around town, as the car has a striking look in yellow, with the hood, trunk, spoiler, air dam, and rear quarter panel all blacked out.
Unfortunately, that's where the good news ends.
I was determined to give this car a good break-in, so I decided to drive the car gently for the first 600 miles, rather than 300 as stated in the owner's manual. The owners manual says that this vehicle does not require a long break-in period, but just to be sure, I let the car go double the recommended distance before I put my foot more than even 1/3 of the way down.
In the meantime, the car was getting very poor fuel economy. On the highway, I was lucky if I could average 19 mpg under "normal" driving conditions, and if I drove as if I were walking on egg shells, I could squeeze 21-22 mpg out of the motor at 60 mph, playing feather-foot (the cruise control actually degraded fuel economy). Around town, the gas mileage was atrocious; 9 mpg was average, and if I concentrated on nothing but my throttle position, I could squeeze 11 mpg out of the car. These figures were a complete shock to me; my 'Vette normally yielded about 28 mpg on the highway with the air running, and over 31 with it off. Around town, the car could easily average out to 19 mpg, unless I drove like a jerk, which is not something I did often. To be fair, the 'Vette had significant advantages over the Charger. Around town, the fact that it weighed 900 lbs less made a big difference in stop and go traffic, and on the highway, its Cd of .29 allowed it to knife through the air with a minimum of losses to parasitic drag. Still, I am amazed that the Charger is performing so poorly in the economy category, as I would have hoped that it could at least hit the EPA numbers posted on the sticker.
Unfortunately, things didn't go much better in the power department. When I finally allowed myself to push the accelerator a bit further down, I was completely disappointed with the results. The car is lethargic as all hell, and has terrible pull at low speeds. Once you get the car moving, and the RPMs up, then it seems to want to redeem itself, but the end result is pitiful, to say the least. Not to mention the fact that a power band so high up in the RPM range is not very practical for a daily driver, and even less so when one considers that the motor eventually sees a 2.88:1 rear axle ratio.
To sum things up, here are my observations / questions / remarks;
First, does anyone have any information to indicate that Dodge is off base with the 300-mile break-in figure that it publishes in the owner's manual? Obviously, excessive internal friction could easily cause all of the stated symptoms, and 300 miles just doesn't seem to be enough of a break-in period for a V-8 designed to last 100,000 miles or more.
Secondly, break-in periods aside, does anyone have any general data about how these cars are doing in the economy department? I would be truly saddened to discover that the figures Dodge posts on the sticker are just fantasy.
Next, does anyone have any experience with aftermarket exhaust/intake systems to try to unload this motor a bit? I was thinking of going with a well-tuned set of long tube headers, and possibly some air box or intake work. I would appreciate any feedback on this.
Well, there you have it. I really like the car, but mechanically, it is leaving much to be desired. I knew that the Charger would never hang with my 'Vette, but I hoped that it could at least give a respectable account of itself, mechanically, and it is *FAR* from doing so. It did not help to discover today that Dodge's "Hemis" are not really hemi-heads, but rather, more like a modified bathtub design rotated 90 degrees, thereby losing much of the advantage that a true Hemi enjoys when supercharged. Further, if one must sacrifice performance or power, they hope that they can at least gain fuel economy in a natural physical trade-off, but in this case, not only does one experience luke-warm performance, but they also get to watch the needle in the gas gauge very quickly sweep to empty.
In my 27 years of swinging wrenches, I have never seen such a lop-sided mechanical relationship; something is just not right here........
Thanks for listening and answering.
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300c Hemi.There are some getting 18 city which I think would be great ,but some like you with a mpg problem.I'm wondering if there is a MDS problem,and its not shutting down the cylinders.That would give you the bad mileage.Ask the dealer to check the MDS and make sure its working.I
have the SXT with the 3.5 and on my last tank I got 20 mpg all city driving.No complaint with my MPGs.
Your 3.5L 24-valve V-6 is a completely different animal than my elephant wannabe. It is far more critically tuned, breathes better, and delivers more hp/litre than my motor (215 hp for your 3.5L V-6 vs 266 hp for my 5.7L V-8). Therefore, it would be natural that you would see better economy than I, especially when we consider that your final drive ratio is 3.15:1, rather than my 2.88:1. The lower (mechanically) ratio of your diff allows your engine to move your car with less load than mine, yet another fuel-saving feature I do not posses. Thanks for your input.
It sure lost a lot of hp at the rear wheels, why?
Normally you lose 15% which would be 340x0.85=289hp and for the V6 it would be 250x0.85=213hp, correct?
Also, I am pretty sure that a car with a ratio of 3.15:1 will consume more gas than a car with a 2.88:1.
I could be wrong but that was what I had read a few years ago.
Going for Dual Cat-Back next week, although I havent decided whether to go to the dealer, or somewhere else...
I've been debating when to purchase a new R/T, so I'm certainly going to check it out in a couple weeks myself.
The car is great except for the cruise control location and the fact that I hit the parking brake with my foot. One tire has gone out of round according to the dealer so he rotated it to the rear, but I can still feel a vibration. Probably need a new tire.
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Thank you for taking the time to reply, and please excuse my long absence.
The issue of mileage versus final drive ratio is a tricky one. If an engine is cammed to be most efficient in the lower rpm ranges, you would be completely correct. If, however, the engine is more efficient in the top end (as in the 5.7 litre semi-hemi v-8), it's entirely possible that a lower (mechanically, higher numerically) gear might actually help not only mileage, but also top end. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but I assure you that there is substance to this argument. My Daytona is a dog in the low to medium speeds, but will deliver accelleration that simply amazes me (not easy to do) at 120 mph. I was tangling with a Carrera at the Palm Beach Raceway last week, and when we hit it from about 65-75 mph, he would walk me. At one point, we were already moving at about 120, and both hit it. To my astonishment, my Charger simply catapulted past the Carrera, and left me as slack-jawed as was the Porsche jock. Go figure.
I AM A PROFESSIONAL DRIVER WHO SUGGESTS THAT ALL MOTORISTS RESPECT POSTED SPEED LIMITS, AND NOT ATTEMPT THE ACTIONS DESCRIBED IN MY POST OUTSIDE OF A SANCTIONED RACE TRACK
Thanks again! : )
Used2bFast
All I can say my friend, is that I wish you were correct. I drive variably, but even when I'm trying to behave, the car guzzles like a drunk. I have an appointment with the dealer to look at it. If they say there's nothing wrong, it goes on the chopping block, and I'm getting myself a Pontiac GXP with a small-block 327 - probably what I should have done from the outset.
Thanks again!
Used2BFast
just to let you know what your axle ratio is just in case you didn't know.Your is a 3:55 with a overdrive ratio of
2:82.My SXT is a 3:66 with a 2:87 overdrive ratio.They give the v6 a lower gear so it can move the car better off the line because of the power of the 6 compared to the Hemi.With a 3:55 gear you should have no problem coming off the line.Are you turning off your ESP?If you turn it off you should get some wheel spin and build up your r's faster.I hope they fix your problem,I hate to see you go to GM.Good luck on your car.
Just reading through your post on your Chargers because I always wondered how they compared to my 06 Mustang GT. But what I wanted to see is if the Dodge motor needs to be retuned like the ford when adding aftermarket parts - intake, headers and such. On the 4.6L V8 I had to have the car tuned to correct the fuel/air ratio among other things. They also advance the timing if you run good 93 octane fuel (BP) for even more power. Just through bolt on's I was able to gain 82HP which I found incredible. CAI, long tube headers, x-pipe, cats, mufflers (Borla) and, 3:73 gear. This put me just under 13 seconds in the 1/4 mile and to 60 in 4.8 seconds. Not shabby at all, faster then the stock SRT-8. Also with only 4000 miles on the engine I am seeing 17mpg in the city and as much as 28 mpg on the highway at 65 mph. Anyway, just wondering about the Dodge hemi compared to the Ford V8 in these areas.
Dan
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rides.
The look? N-I-C-E. I didn't think going from 17" to 18" rims would look that much different, but it does. Also, the polished chrome really stands out.
When I wen't back to the GoodYear dealer, he said it was $660 "installed", not Out-The-Door. So it was Tax on top of this, but still lower then two other quotes I had for the same tire.
I am very happy. I will be Estatic if I can just sell the stock rims/tires now...
I am going to remove the "Charger" and "SXT" lettering on the trunk this weekend...
An SE is going for $21K and I found a R/T with Electronics convenience package, sunroof, and Sirus radio going for $28k! I never thought a HEMI would sell under $30k!
What would be my chances for haggling an SE for around $20k?
with all rebates.