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  • caliberchiccaliberchic Posts: 402
    Good luck! :shades:
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Mexico is in Central America.
  • donnmandonnman Posts: 2
    Actually Mexico is part of North America, not Central America.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867

    Mexico is part of the continent of North America which includes Canada, US, Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean countries and Greenland
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    So wrong was I!

    Well at least I was right that it was not in South America as the poster claimed.
  • I just got my car back last week for the key removal problem. It turned out to be a bad shifter selector. They replaced the whole shifter. When you put it in park, push the selector button on the shifter a couple times and you can usually release the key and replicate the problem over and over for the dealership. The dealership knew right away what it was when I described it over the phone, sounds like it's common.
    To everyone else out there, don't buy this car. I bought it in May '06. The A/C condensor went out 5,000 miles in; then a bearing hub right passenger side at 15,000 miles; last week the shifter; and as of last night a puddle from the first real rain storm in the front passenger side. Nightmare!!
    It's a :lemon: and will do nothing but aggrivate a commuter who needs a reliable car. :mad:
  • Chevy "The Mexican Revolution"
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    They are actually quite reliable with arguably the best engines in the industry. The issues you describe, especially the leaky windshield hose, supposedly are resolved.

    I don't know of any auto manufacture who has a totally new car off the assembly line that doesn't have some issues once reaching the showrooms. That's why they always say to wait at least a year until they work out the kinks.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    What auto manufacture doesn't build in Mexico jhvegas?
  • Toyota, Honda, Nissan, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Hyundai manufacture cars in the USA. They use American workers, plants,and research facilities. Because they contain less than 75% domestic parts, they are designated as "foreign". My old Toyota was manufactured in San Jose, Ca. I regret trading it in now for a Chevy. I never had any warranty issues, only had to do routine oil changes. Besides those auto makers... Subaru, Scion, Lexus, Mitsubishi aren't made in Mexico...The Pontiac GTO is out of Australia still...and there are others.
    I want my "American" car to be made here in the USA instead of being assembled by 12 year olds in Mexico. VW's for example were ruined after the plant went to Mexico, and have some of the worst reliability statistics out there. If I had done my research prior on the HHR and found out it wasn't really an American car, I wouldn't have purchased it. Instead I bought on impulse and will probably be trading it soon since something is breaking weekly now affecting how I get to my job to pay for the piece of s :surprise: :confuse: t!!! :lemon: :mad:
    Foreign cars are American now and American cars are Foreign now.
  • I got the HHR back from dealership today and it turned out to be the windshield cowl seal was bad on the right side. Allowing water to flood the front passenger floor board coming under the dashboard behind glove box area. Caught it in time, supposedly no damage to wires. We'll see. Glad it doesn't rain much in Vegas. One storm equaled quite a bit of water over night sitting coming into the car. Pretty ridiculous.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    You may want to do some research before you post on a forum. Most all of those you mentioned have manufacturing or parts plants in Mexico. How were Volkswagon ruined after they went to Mexico? In fact they were very successful building the VW Bug there from the late 1960's until 1995 or so.

    Cars are considered foreign based on their country of origen. Example Toyota-Japan; BMW-Germany; Volvo/Sabb-Sweden.

    GM has by far the highest domestic parts quantity in the US with 75 % overall, compared to Toyota's 49% overall. The Scian and Lexus are imported directly from Japan and thats how Toyota has the low 49% figure. Your old Toyota was probably less 20% domestic parts.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I didn't mean to be so critical of your last post. Honda, Ford, Chrysler, and GM, were recently effected by the bombing of a natural gas pipeline in Mexico where auto makers had to shut down their manufacturing facilities for several days. GM was able to convert to propane to avoid the shutdown.

    Nissan has two plants there and shares one with Renault. Toyota uses 20 Mexican suppliers for parts and has paid over 600 million in recent years. Toyota also has a pickup truck plant in Tijuana.

    Mitsubishi has been in Mexico since 2003.

    Sorry, I don't have anymore time to post others at this time. Mexico and China are the trend for all auto companies to pursue cheap labor, but not necessarally poorly made cars because they all still have quality control.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    When the A cars were built in Mexico many years ago they put out better quality vehicles than the ones from Oshawa or Tarrytown. And those poor guys had little automation. They would be clikmbing in and out of those vehicles like nimble mice. But they put out the better product. Of course today the US has greatly improved their quality output.
  • I did do some research....but that doesn't matter to a car salesman. Go sell another GM car. Cite your references if you are such an expert. I said manufactured, not parts. And by the way what is wrong with wanting our vehicles to made here?
    I don't have time for this nonsense. I will only post what is wrong with the car from here on for the consumer who may be considering it... and for those who share the same problems and don't know what is wrong with the vehicle.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I only mentioned the Toyota parts along with there pickup assembly plant in Tijuana. All the others-Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi, Mazda, Suburu, Isuzu, Volkswagon, GM, Chrysler, Ford, and I am sure others are also being manufactured in Mexico.

    All you need to do is go to a search engine and type in the auto manufacturer manufactured in Mexico. It will bring up your Japanese cars and everything else.

    You will get the most domestic product from an American manufacturer like GM over anything else. So there is your American company.

    There is what they call American domestic and foreign domestic. Some Toyota models are foreign domestic because they are built in the U.S., but they will never be considered an American car no matter what the content.

    You can find the domestic content on the windows Monroney sticker the next-time you are looking for a car. It shows the country of origin, final assembly, and where the engine and transmission came from. They are also going to be putting the crash test data on the stickers supposedly starting with the 2008 models.

    My experience with cars is because I am a serious auto enthusiest who prefers both new and older cars, especially 1960's cars of which I have owned as well. I also do all my own auto maintenance and have never been to a quick lube shop for an oil change. I also have owned 6 motorcycles and currently own a Honda dirtbike. I do not own an HHR but have been in and driven several. It is one of the auto's on my list for future purchase but my 1992 Chevy truck purchased new just won't quite so that is my current ride.

    It's unfortunate you may have had a bad experience but luckily your situation is somewhat rare and not common. You may have seen the same problem on the board before, but these boards are mostly made up with people who want to vent their frustration. Most people don't come to the forums because they don't have any issues to speak of. Go over to the Toyota or Honda forums sometime and see the anger over there. It is no different, just another make.

    Six months ago or whenever you started your story you were mad because they wouldn't buy it back. What auto manufacture buys cars back?

    Why spoil someone elses pleasant experience with your issues when the car is considered relatively sound and at a bargain of a price. Give it a rest because your rant isn't very convincing.
  • PAmanPAman Posts: 207
    Good lord, why don't you guys go whine somewhere else??

    I came in here to see how the HHR is holding up since I am thinking of buying one; what do I find? An arguement complaining about cars made in Mexico!

    Yeah, I know the HHR is made in Mexico. So was my 1987 Chevrolet El Camino! Nothing new here; any car with a VIN that starts with a 3 is made in Mexico.

    Move along, nothing new here.
  • Back to the main topic.
    New 2008 Owner... car is a smooth ride and quiet. Good for long trips. handles decent, but not as well as other cars, but well enough. Acceleration is good enough to not worry about merging onto freeways. Interior is nice, not spectacular, but this isnt a Cadillac or BMW... Overall, everything about this car is solid, and it looks great. Great bang for your buck, I feel like I definately got more than my moneys worth. I like it more than my 2005 Mustang.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I thought we did since the last post was last month until you opened it up again.
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    Right, Toyota has had a bunch of major problems too.

    In the United States, Toyota's largest market, the number of vehicles recalled soared to 2.2 million last year. That was double the number of vehicles recalled in 2004, and more than 10 times the 200,000 cars it recalled in 2003, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Yes, Toyota is going through some problems right now with their rush to be # 1 in sales. When you manufacture at such a high pace quality control is inevitably not going to be as good. With most auto companies catching up with Toyota is technology in the last few years, I see them pretty much peaking in sales about where they are right now. Their numbers will probably decline as people realize the false perceptions and that they are now just another company and that cars are pretty competitive brand for brand nowadays.
  • Sunburst Orange II, loaded with bright chrome package, roof rails and cross ties, running boards, grey interior. Also has the 2.4 170 HP engine, 4 sp automatic. Left a Toyota Avalon for this, so the ride and drive experience is different.

    I ordered it from GM thru Power Chev here is Phoenix valley and had a good experience. I ordered the interior as Ebony but got the Grey; no good answer why, but I like it anyway.

    The ride is good and the power is good enough. I like the color and the cargo capability with the Panel configuration - I get lots of looks and questions. With all the fancy amenities and color it's bound to be the only around here for a while. Once I got used to the HUGE blindspot drivnind and parking is fun.

    Would love this as the SS, but didn't want to wait.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Sounds like a real nice ride. That is weird with the different color interior but I too like both interior colors. If you have ever had a van or even a pick-up then blind spots are pretty common.
  • I purchased my 2008 HHR on November 30th. I am a 38 yr old guitar player and cary tons of gear from rehearsals to shows etc and I have to say...I LOVE THIS CAR! Not only does it hold all of my gear and still leave room for passengers, I get great gas mileage and to top it off, it looks cool too. I didn't get it chromed out or anything, its a standard model with auto tranny but MAN I do dig this car.

    The ONLY drawback I have is that I am 6' 3" and the ceiling slopes down a little low for me to see stoplights if I am first in line at the intersection...also because of the same issue, the rearview mirror blocks a portion of the windshield but in the month I have had it I have learned to cope fast. :)
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    One thing you can try on the rear view mirror is to push the whole thing (pivot at glass) up toward the ceiling and then adjust the glass(pivot at mirror) so you can see out the rear.
  • ray80ray80 Posts: 1,643
    For the traffic lights, this may be helpfule if your interested:


    I don't have rear seat passengers, sp the first thing I did was remove the rear headrests to help with rearview.
  • skibry1skibry1 Posts: 174
    We had to move that button up into the darken portion of windsheild,'cause that
    arm raise and mirror tilt still failed to get the mirror out of a sight line...but all this
    did happen in a car. The relocation wasn't "a walk in the park" but love the results.
    Happy Motoring
  • amyf2amyf2 Posts: 9
    Just purchased a 2008 HHR in January, and so far we love it. Yes, I agree with some of the reviews with the windshield being a little small, and it has been some getting used to... but over all, we like the car so far. My 2 kids have plenty of space with their car seats, and my husband and I have plenty of room in the front captains chairs. Im a little surprised at the lack of storage in front... no where to put CD's, no console. The one in the dash is okay for eye glasses, and small things, but Im used to a car where I can store more items. We've also experienced something weird this week... our little LED light in the ceiling has gone out, and no longer illuminates. Ive called the dealer, and they cant find any link to a fuse specifically for that light. So now we have to go in and figure this thing out. We cant see a thing in the dark! Has anyone else experienced this? All in all, I love my new ride... it fits my personality and I like the back seat height for my kids too... dont have to bend over to put my 2 yr old in his car seat. Im very pleased so far.
  • amyf2amyf2 Posts: 9
    we've noticed similar issues, and we've just bought our HHR 1LT in January 08. I get maybe 26, not even 27 mpg, and the sticker said 30. So... what we're planning is to increase our tire pressure to what it says on the tire (my husband hasnt checked yet, but he says the pressure is lower than he likes). We got the Nitrogen thing for the tires, has anyone else done that? Im wondering if the Nitrogen needs to be lower than air.... anyway, tire pressure affects fuel economy too.

    and we use synthetic oil in my Dodge Stratus and his Chevy Silverado, and a K & N air filter in both. As soon as my HHR needs its first oil change, we're putting in the synthetic oil and the K & N air filter. I hope to see an improvement then. I drive a 2 lane highway to work at a max 65 mph, so I dont get on the interstate hardly at all, so my high speed driving is limited... I should be getting better gas mileage. We'll see.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    we've just bought our HHR 1LT in January 08

    Give it time to break in. You need at least 3000 miles to get the mileage up. Takes some driving.

    Nitrogen thing for the tires

    Nitrogen is a rip off unless you are racing at Nascar.

    what we're planning is to increase our tire pressure to what it says on the tire

    Set it for what the vehicle wants. Should be on the door end? If you increase it higher ride will get rougher.

    30 is the epa highway mileage. Is the 26 what you are getting total? Seems very good if it is for a brand new car so hopefully it will get better for you.
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