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Chevrolet Impala Key Fob Questions

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  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Read through the posts. The issue affects the tire pressure monitor and FOB operation. On some cars, it's just the FOB range that's affected. On others, it includes the tire pressure monitors. It looks like the word is getting down to the dealers. I would mention the TSB about the antenna, receiver, and FOBs when you go for service.
  • After the dealer replaced the receiver my remote range went up to over 300ft. I han't tried from farther than that. Even more impressive is that it works through multiple walls from inside my workplace (inc. concrete). I like it when something actually performs better than is even practical.
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Spinner,
    Did you get the new FOBs and antenna as well?
  • quietpro,
    Yes, fobs 1st, then antennea and finally the reciever. I just read in another forum that the new fobs have stars imprinted on the back, mine do.
  • mymittiesmymitties Posts: 242
    Hey spinner (great name!!)

    Ya, for me too now...!! It's almost like these new fob transmitters are the higher powered versions. :surprise: Most likely though, it's a combination of all new replacment parts here. Well, I tell 'ya, it's certainly a great feeling to finally have everything in good working order.

    Enjoy your ride.....
    Frank ;)
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    OK, new question for yous guys with the new fix. How long have you had the new fix working? I'm trying to rule out any NEW temporary fix before I begin fighting with my dealership. Also, if you have an invoice with some part numbers or other part info, that would be great too.

    Thanks to all,
    Ron
  • My transmitters have been working great since the receiver replacement Feb 21st.

    Her are the part numbers from my invoices:
    #15912860 transmitters
    #25837954 antennea cable
    #25808837 receiver

    The only other technical item on the invoice is "Reprogram receiver through TIS2000", I have no idea what TIS2000 would be.

    I hope don't have to "fight" with your dealership to get this done. I had no problem or resistance at all.

    Good luck though,
    Bob
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    I hope don't have to "fight" with your dealership to get this done. I had no problem or resistance at all.

    Bob,
    I hope not as well but the last time I got the attitude that they knew better than I what was wrong. Of course, once I picked up the car, I noticed it was exactly the same as always. I half expected them to blame my window tinting but they didn't. I think I get some resistance because I didn't buy the car there. I don't think that should make a difference but maybe it did.

    Thanks for the input. I'll take those part numbers with me.

    Later,
    Ron
  • mymittiesmymitties Posts: 242
    Hi There Ron..

    MY APPOLOGIES FOR TAKING SO LONG TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THIS ONE!!

    Fobs (transmitters) GM # 15912860

    Coax cable Anenna GM # 25837954

    Receiver Module GM # 15946938

    You will notice that I have a different GM receiver Number to Spinner's...???
    Not sure why at this point...All is still working perfectly for me and it's been about 5-6 Days.Good luck and let us know how you make out.
    Frank ;)
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Frank,
    Hopefully that difference in part numbers doesn't mean one of you will have problems agin. Hopefully, there are just more than one new part number. I'll let you know how mine turns out.

    Later,
    Ron
  • mymittiesmymitties Posts: 242
    Hi Ron

    Gee....I sure hope all our problems are gone for good..!! ...I looked both numbers up on GM parts direct and they are definately both for keyless entry Receivers.I wonder why the two. Anyway, I e-mailed gm parts direct about this and i will let you know what they say....
    Frank ;)
  • wbowl99wbowl99 Posts: 133
    Hi everyone, got the new parts Friday on my 06 LT and it definitely is different. The parts guy apparently forgot it was warranty work and they were going to charge me $533 for these parts and one to fix the ac/heat problem. :mad: I said, I don't think so! Parts mgr was gone so they couldn't get the $$$ taken off system. I had to wait till today to get the paperwork so I'll check and see which part they gave me.

    Anyway, although it wasn't a great distance away, I was able to unlock my car holding my fob behind a truck body a couple of cars away. Opened right up! I usually couldn't get it to open 10 feet away pointing it directly at the car.
  • mymittiesmymitties Posts: 242
    Hi there Ron..
    Well, I'm still waiting for the guys at GM Parts Direct to get back to me as to why my keyless entry receiver part number (15946938) is different than Spinners (25808837) So, I got a little impatient, and called my local GM dealership for an answer. They said that his (Spinners) is the later version. oh no !!....Just great !! I really didn't want to hear this !! Well, cross your fingers for me, I hope this doesn't come back to bite me in the backside. Again , everything is still working great so far......

    Frank ;)
  • wbowl99wbowl99 Posts: 133
    Hope when I get my paperwork I'll have the newer ones since they just now ordered them. We'll pray for you Frank. ;)
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Frank,
    You're the man! I'm going to try to ensure I get the latest part numbers in mine now that I know. If they refuse to hook me up, I'll just wait a while and see if their inventory runs out. Of course, with my luck, YOUR part number will be the quality one and the newer will fail in my car. ;)

    If any of you are willing to do some long range testing with your cars, maybe in a large parking lot (Walmart) to get a good idea of range...by parking spaces....from the side and front and back...that would be great. No special trips, just the next time you happen to be out. I've noticed with my limited range now, sometimes extra cars in the lot decrease my consistency...sometimes range.

    Good luck!
    Ron
  • spoolerspooler Posts: 15
    Hi Everyone!

    I had my 06 SS into the dealer late last week and the service dept looked at my RKE system. The only problem I'm having is low range on the remote start, but everything else works great. The service manager told me that the SS (at least mine) is not included in his TSB's as having these problems and he thinks mine has the latest coax antenna. I told him, I bought my SS last July, and the TSB came out in the fall, so I think he is wrong on that. In my argument to him, whether it does have the latest antenna or RCDLR or not is illrelevant since the range is bad and in my opinion needs to be repaired. My question is.....Have any of you fellow 2006 SS owners had your repairs made and carried out under warranty? Again he thinks the SS is not part of the program! :confuse:
  • mymittiesmymitties Posts: 242
    Hey Spooler,
    Here's my 2 cents.....!!!!!

    Just as a review for yourself, and you may want to also give a copy of this bulletin to your GM Service Manager, please refer to post # 47 from zjim . As stated here, the poor remote range and all the other associated problems in this bulletin specifically states that coverage is for the 2006 - 2007 Chev Impala's and Monte Carlo's. There is absolutely no reference here to any specific Impala model covererage, or, for the exclusion of the SS model, for that matter of fact. Gm would have never left this fix this wide open if it was for specific models only !! The remote start runs off the same fobs( transmitters), receiver, and antenna. They are wrong ! wrong! wrong! What a bunch of MORONS here !!!....Spooler, the new coax antenna cable just came out about a week or two ago....I waited 5 months for mine !!! The bulletin states that it would be available in January 2007... well after you bought your car. Tell them that you are totally not satisfied and that you will now be getting the GM Regional Rep over their dealership involved here. Now let's see how fast they jump to your attention....!!
    Let us know how you make out...
    Frank ;)
  • wbowl99wbowl99 Posts: 133
    Finally got the paperwork yesterday where they fixed my fob problem last Friday. They did not put in a new receiver, only the transmitters and antenna and reprogrammed the receiver. It is definitely better, but makes me wonder if it is as it should be and if it will last. Said it was according to the TSB, but didn't one of you guys see the actual TSB and said it should have been receiver also?
  • mymittiesmymitties Posts: 242
    Hi wbowl...
    Check to see if your new fobs (transmitters)have the stars on the back cover....?? ....and, check the Gm part numbers on your invoice. Hopefully, they match the parts numbers reported for some of the fix in prevoius posts ... i.e....see the numbers that I reported for example to Ron !!
    Now, you need to go to post # 47 and have another read. I believe that the TSB does not mention the receiver specifically at that time. Also, to get a good feel here, and some great history and experience, read all the posts fom #47 to the present. It will give you an idea as to what works and what doesn't work and by what was replaced and not replaced. At one point , GM informed some dealerships to change one part at a time . I'm not sure if this is still in effect today. My personal feeling is that ultimately the receiver needs to be changed.Sad to say, if you don't, it may not last !! I guess time will tell.....

    Frank ;)
  • wbowl99wbowl99 Posts: 133
    Hey Frank, The transmitters do have the star on the back and I think the information on how to remote start the car. I'll give #47 another look and read closer. I thought I had seen someone say that all 3 were the fix, but didn't find the post I was looking for with a quick scan. If the receiver starts getting alzheimer's and problem reoccurs, I'll definitely be after them to change it out as well.

    I was also a little frustrated to see that they didn't add the oil change to the paperwork. Advisor forgot to put it on there and did it himself since the mechanics had already gone. Should anything happen to the engine, I wouldn't want GM to try to say it wasn't covered because I couldn't prove the oil was changed at the proper time.
  • spoolerspooler Posts: 15
    Hi Frank!
    Thanks for your reply! I think you are absolutely right about this. It may be hard to believe, but this Service Manager I think is a pretty good guy, and has went way out of his way to help me a time or two. So I'm going to keep after him, gently nudging him along the way. I'll do as you suggest and get a copy of zjim's #47 post to show him next time I'm there. I'm pretty confident he'll get me fixed up. I'll let you know how it comes out. :)
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Spooler,
    I can't imagine him thinking there is an SS specific receiver. That's about the stupidest thing I've seen on here. That's about the same as saying it has a different windshield. Maybe he was just having a bad day. ;)

    Ron
  • axle52axle52 Posts: 36
    Axle Here

    Since I work for GM in St. Catharines On., I had one of the GM engineers go into the GM website that the dealers use for TSB,s and he printed out the fix for the key Fobs. It did not mention the receiver as part of the fix, only the transmitters, cable and reprogramming. I had the fix done but as I had mentioned in the other forum to Frank, that I had the TPMS light come on twice in 2 days about 3 weeks after the fix was done. I'm not sure if there was an updated version of the fix after the one I obtained from the engineer. I will have to investigate some more when the engineer comes back from Germany. Maybe he will learn something from the Germans when he gets home and pass it along to GM..........grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
  • mymittiesmymitties Posts: 242
    Hi Axle...
    Well you know, it doesn't surprise me in the least...After my many, Fob experiences/frustrations here, and also reading everyone elses woes along the way, (some good, but mostly all bad), I personally see the TOTAL Fix as.... 2 new Fobs, Coax antenna cable , yes the Receiver, and the additional re-programming..!! Obviously, the recever would be the most difficult( labor) and expensive part to replace for GM on a general and wide spread basis. Maybe it's one step at a time and only replace it if all else fails.... Am I being too cynical here ..??!! Ya, while the TSB does not specifically identify the receiver as such, again read
    previous Post #47 where it lists about 6 items that.. " a vehicle may exhibit one or more of these following conditions"
    Well, It seems that the reciever is involved in some of the problem functions here..!! Anyway, I will get off my soap box now and hope that everything works out for you soon....
    Keep us posted...
    Frank ;)
  • wbowl99wbowl99 Posts: 133
    Well, I was feeling pretty good about the fix even without the receiver because I opened the doors about 80 or so feet away the other day. But then last night, it wouldn't unlock from about 20-30 feet away with an open path straight to it. Earlier it was a straight shot to the side of the car; last night it was to the rear. Don't know if that makes a difference or if that it had been raining and air was really heavy made a difference. I think I'll find a place to park and do a little testing on the distance and directions.
  • mymittiesmymitties Posts: 242
    Well folks... With all that has happened in the RKE area lately, I have totally forgoten what GM states or advertises as the distance that these Fobs will/should work.. :confuse: Probably, our friend Ron out there would be the most knowledgeable one on this topic ...!! So, help me understand here Ron, or others... Because, at this point ,I'm not sure if what I am about to report is good or bad..Anyway, I walked out my front office door this afternoon ,looked straight ahead at my beauty (front facing me) that was parked backed into a building wall. Nervously,I pressed my FOB right from there. And, to my surprise ,it worked the first time and also a few more times after ( just in case) .So, I measured off the distance and it was exactly 175 feet from door to front of car. Is this Fair, Good, excellent...??? Let me know please !!. When I get a chance I'm going to take it to a shopping Mall without any walls and obsticales, to see what the ultimate distance is.
    I'll let you know......
    Thanks
    Frank ;)
  • spoolerspooler Posts: 15
    Hi Ron,

    Yes I was somewhat taken back. He's just mistaken. I'm going to keep on working on him, and I'll help him out and bring him his TSB's !!! ;) I personally really like the guy, as he has helped me out with "last minute" appointments, and even offered up loaner cars with out me asking. He also treats my wife respectfully. I have a good relationship with him, and I don't want to rock the boat unless I really have to. I've dealt with many service managers over the years, most had an "I don't give a rip" attitude. In my opinion/experience the Service Manager's at Ford dealerships are usually difficult. I'll keep you posted how it goes!
  • axle52axle52 Posts: 36
    Hey Frank , I read somewhere but forget where that the distance is 197 ft., so you were pretty close. I also noticed that the car almost goes into a sleep mode when I try to operate the remote after i intially lock the car with the remote or if I leave it sit for 8 hours when i am at work. It doesn't work right away from a certain distance then all of a sudden it will work from a good distances away. totally strange isn't it. Anyway, I may just have to live with this condition because I am sick of all the BS. Well thats it for now.
  • quietproquietpro Posts: 702
    Frank, Axle, Bowl, and the rest,
    I posted the distance out of the owner's manual in here a while back. I think 197ft is correct. Of course, that's only for cars equipped with the remote start. Without the remote start, the range is much less...again, in the owner's manual but I think it's less "buried." :)
    Awesome range, Frank. I look forward to your full report from a parking lot near you. Axle, your "sleep mode" theory is similar to what I was experiencing when testing mine. In my case, when I locked or unlocked the doors repeatedly, it would seem to freeze up temporarily and then work again. It reminded me of when my cable box gets "confused" at times and delays the commands I send to it. Maybe THAT issue is addressed with the new receiver...who knows.
    Mine is inconsistent. Somedays, I can get about 75 ft out of it, others, maybe 20 ft max. Also, I noticed that USUALLY, I get better range facing the front of the car but sometimes, just as good from the back...but only sometimes. I haven't scheduled an appointment yet to have mine fixed but will soon.

    Thanks all,
    Ron
  • mymittiesmymitties Posts: 242
    Hey there spooler..

    Ya, for sure he is mistaken here..!! :sick:
    But you know, if you really like the guy and you have some sort of relationship with him, I don't blame you... this is sometimes half the battle in your favour. Again, I would show him a copy of the TSB, and also share with him some of our experiences , the good, bad and the ugly. I don't want to sound like a broken record here (remember these ?), but I still feel strongly, that the RECEIVER is part of the TOTAL fix. AND, just as a reminder, I did have EVERYTHING replaced, and all is very well still, and working as it should..!! :blush: Hey, He could be just one of those professionals really trying to help ,say like some Doctors for example that will come up with a reason or diagnosis, but not really knowing what the true answer is...So, they just have a very difficult time saying...I DON'T KNOW or........ !!
    Oh well ...hope everything works out for you...and keep us posted..!!
    Frank ;)
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