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Hyundai Sonata Brakes
volvoocean
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I have a 2006 Sonata LX with 23,800 miles. I bought it in August, 2006. Ok. It performs great. I just got back from lunch. I had my Starbucks in my cup holder doing 50 mph on two lane highway. The car in front of me comes to a screeching holt. I break (can you say panic stop) and stop without hitting. I watch this guy walking past me with a hose on his back on right by the grassy shoulder. This guy had parked his car on the two lane highway on the right lane while dragging the hose to reseed the grass. I could not believe it. I mean I have owned and driven a 2K Cobra R (Ford factory race car) that would stop on a dime (Brembo brakes) but this Hyundai is good as that. Great V6 engine and stops on a dime. Can you ask for more?
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Please explain how you put 23,800 miles on the car in two months.
Or did you mean August 2005?
A. If your Starbucks coffee spilled all over you, you can now SUE them for causing you severe burns.
B. See, the guy in front of you KNEW he can come to a screeching holt safely and without causing an accident, since he looked in the mirror and saw a Sonata behind him.
C. But since YOU did NOT know that HE knows, I am surprised you did take out your AK47 which you must keep on the passenger seat, and shot him and his stupid hose. I hope you actually DID it, just forgot to mention it.
re: #C
We aren't so obvious any more. Yeah, we may "respond" like that, but in a more subtle way. Maybe a 22 instead. , and we smile too.
Idiots like that are all over the place. (the hose guy)
I've brought it to a Hyundai dealership and they replaced the rear brake pads, but the squealing noise still there.
Anyone experiencing this problem? Some people told me that is normal to have the brake squealing after the vehicle has been parked for a while and it will go away after a short drive. That's seems odd to me though. Thanks for all your input.
The rotors will begin to develop a film of rust and after hitting the brakes a few times, the rust layer is removed and the squealing noise disappears.
May not be the same issue but the only other thing it could be is pads and the only way to resolve it correctly is to resurface the rotors as well if you are replacing pads for that reason.
From the reading I have been doing on this subject I understand that this sound is normal.
My question for operators who own other brands of autos is, does your other cars makes this same type of noise? And, if anyone knows, what is it in the Sonata system that makes this type of sound?
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One reason I ask is that while this is the first car that I have owned with ABS, years ago I drove a auto with asn old ABS system and the only indication I would have of ABS engaging was a pulsing feeling on the brake peddle. No sound at all.
The sound from the Sonata is so pronounced and such an odd sound(you believe something is dragging the ground) that Hyundai surely had a reason for making this sound so noticeable.
Just curious. And I was wondering if some of our posters who are much more knowledgeable than I could tell us how the noise is generated?
My mechanic thought that it should be covered under a 3/36 warranty but the dealer says that it's onlhy 1/12.
UGH!
Wondering if anyone else has experienced this ? I'd posted in July about the 'need' (?) to replace the rear brakes on my '07 GLS at 18,600 mi...I know . We began to hear the tell-tale metalic squeel primarily when turning the steering wheek to the right. Took it in and the mechanic and service guy indicated that the rears were worn down, mainly on the left. Being that I was hearing the noise too, which I knew to be the wear indicators and that my 19 yr old was driving the car mainly to her Summer job, I decided to have them replaced and the rotors turned. Since I'd had the car for 18 months there was little hope of having them replace under warranty. Between this and the 2 other Hyundai sites, I found a few other posts about this problem which seemed to indicate that in fact it might be a caliper or piston or rear pad issue needing an adjustment.
Today I took my '08 GLS, in service 8/15 last yr., in for the 34 point inspection, thanks HMC for the freebie coupon - and asked that they specifically check the brakes. Well...they found that the "rear brakes were sticking in slides causing glazing" they "freed the pads and machined the rotors" this time on the house
I insisted again that this wasn't normal especially for rear brakes and that there was some chatter on the internet message boards about what the problem might be.
The service guy, who seems to be a genuinely decent sort pulled up the brake job on the '07 from July, printed it out and offered to discuss the problem with the
RSM who comes in periodically to see what they "can do for me" I made sure to reiterate that I have 2 Sonatas and not just a 10 yr old Accent! He did acknowledge that the wear war on the low side of normal, I told him that he needs to look up to see the low side of normal for rear brakes.
So - has anyone experiences anything like this from either of these years ? or have another idea of what might be going on here ? On both cars the driving as about 75/25 city/hwy the 08 is garaged the 07 outside and I'm in W. PA w/4 season weather if it matters. We like both cars but this has me concerned.
All vehicles made after 2006, all Hyundai models, with the pull lever type of Emergency/Parking brake assemblies should be checked to see that their Emergency/Parking brakes work correctly.
Additionally, if you have had any rear brake work done on your vehicle that required removing the rear rotors or emergency/parking brake work done; more than likely...the service technicians did not repair it correctly...not repairing or making adjustments to your vehicle according to Hyundai Official Repair/Service manuals.
Apparently, someone dropped the ball at Hyundai Motor America and did not place a requirement for a force push/pull gauge on the Hyundai service departments.
Bottom line...all levels and all certifications of Service Techs, Field Service Engineers and Hyundai Representative do not have the necessary tools on-hand to perform EMERGENCY / PARKING BRAKE INSPECTION AND ADJUSTMENT PROCEDURES CORRECTLY, SO THEY SKIP THE OFFICIAL PROCEDURES.
Skipping these procedures could lead to emergency/parking brake drag when the brake lever is not set or the parking brake not functioning when you believe you have set the emergency/parking brake.
Step 1. Block the front tires so the vehicle will not roll.
Step 2. Raise the vehicle as if you were going to change the driver’s side rear tire.
Step 3. Rotate driver’s side tire while the brake is in the released position. If you feel any drag or hear a rubbing noise, your emergency/parking brake may be dragging. If you suspect dragging, lift the emergency/parking brake lever 1 click, if the drag feeling has intensified or you cannot move the wheel, then your emergency/parking brakes need to be adjusted.
Repeat the above steps on the passenger’s side rear tire.
Now that you know your emergency/parking brakes are not dragging, check to see if the emergency/parking brake will hold the vehicle.
Step 1. While a driver is in the vehicle, release the emergency/parking brake lever.
Step 2. Pull the emergency/parking brake lever up 4 clicks from the released position. Be prepared to step on your normal brakes...Place the vehicle in drive...at idle speed...
Does the vehicle move?
If YES, Repeat the above step with the lever pulled up an additional click each time until you reach 8 clicks from the released position.
Make note when the emergency/parking brake actually holds the vehicle.
If your emergency/parking brakes do not hold the car when the lever is pulled 8 clicks from the released position (where the adjustment is check according to the official manuals and around 44 LBs of pull force maximum is need to raise the lever 8 clicks), then your emergency/parking brake is not adjusted correctly.
When you take your vehicle in to have your emergency/parking brakes adjusted...ask that you be allowed to see the technician use a force push/pull gauge during the inspection/adjustment procedures.
Additionally, if you identify a problem...please email Hyundai Motor America customer service at ConsumerAffairs@hmausa.com and have them document you issue...have them give you a case number.... this is the only way a TSB or recall will be issued, since the servicing departments are skipping the official inspection steps.
Good luck
I've lived in "salty" Ohio over 30 years and never had to do this and I've driven lots of cars lots of miles. I replaced front pads and rotors on my 2000 Mazda Protege at 60,000 and 110,000 miles and rear shoes at 90,000. No lubing the slides in between, either!
Upon further investigation, I found that the rotor was rusty, which caused my rear brake pads to wear prematurely. I live in Chicago, where they use road salt. It appears that drivers in winter conditions, are having the same problem. I am going to the dealer to have them look at it. If they say it is not under warranty, which I think they will, I might consider legal action against Hyundai. Is anyone else for this?
According to my dealer, Hyundai is well aware but currently doing nothing. If consumers file complaints with NHTSA, we might see a recall. The idea of having my brakes serviced annually because substandard materials were used is not sitting well with me.
Your daily drive must be hard on the brakes for a rear break to wear out in 20K miles, or else the parking brake was dragging.
I ended up taking my car to Tires Plus (where they do FREE INSPECTIONS) and have much more reasonable rates (and they price matched MIDAS'S price). They replaced my break pads. The rotars were not repaired b/c they had to be specially ordered. I was told that 2007 Hyundai rotars have to come from the dealership and I do not want to pay what they charge for their rotars on this vehicle. I am not happy at all.
Personally, I would like to see a recall. I am NOT happy about facing expensive brake work every 15,000 miles. One reason I bought this car was because I was assured it was low maintenance and had a good reputation. Hyundai is blowing their reputation here.
I will fill the complain, could we go further ?
There seems to be wide spread agreement that this should not be happening but not much resource.
Today when picking up my car, they said they had fixed a recall Brake Switch Recall which they assure me had no baring on the brake pad wear. Perhaps this is true? But hard to believe.
I see the one post offering a place to file a complaint. I guess that will be my next action. That I am no longer going to get my service done with Hyundai. My trust is gone.
Hyundai subsequently denied my request to cover this repair under their warranty.
I am by no means an expert when it comes to cars, but after seeing several similar stories on this discussion page, it seems to me the premature wear of rear brake pads is a SYMPTOM of the real problem: the caliper guides are susceptible to rust. If that is indeed the case, we are talking about a VEHICLE DESIGN FLAW affecting a rather important component.
I urge those of you with similar experiences to a) Write a letter to Hyundai Motors of America; and b) file a complaint with NHTSA's Office of Defect Investigations. If anyone has another suggestion for follow-up, please share it with this forum.
Those of you saying get over it's car and other stupid remarks sound like Hyundai reps or dealers.
My '95 Honda @ 198K miles and 2000 Excursion @ 137L miles have never had a caliper guide wear out (I am the original owner of both.)
I live in upstate New York where we get over 250" of snow per year.
Our 2008 Sonata with 13K miles is now squeaking because the pads are hanging on it's caliper guides.
If the brake pedal was hanging up causing the pads not to retrack, it would be a warranty repair.
I'm complaining to dealer ownership then to Hyundai if I need to.
I had my normal mechanic take a look and he showed me that one of the pads was totally gone while the other pad had normal wear. The Hyundai dealership is just giving me the runnaround.
Fax : (801) 736-3561.
And if they Ask you what do you want tell them that you want to make a complaint. And after that file a safety complaint with the Office of Defects Investigation (ODI)at theNHTA at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm. The more noise we make the better chanse we have for a fix by Hyundai so we don't have to change brake pads and rotors every 2-3 years.