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So I am left with monitoring my car and calling Infiniti Canada Customer Service 1-800-361-4792. The one thing I do not want to do is be reminded about how disappointed I am.
I am glad this is a lease and I will be returning it next year.
I received an Arbitration award, and Nissan was ordered to buy the vehicle back. Nissan resisted all the way, 'defending' the operation of the transmission as normal, and criticizing my driving style. The Arbitrator saw it differently.
I had my vehicle over 1 year and the entire ownership experience was hell. Many times I felt like giving up and trading or selling the vehicle. Perhaps that was the Nissan strategy.
Everyone with this issue, in Canada, should use the CAMVAP process. Good luck to all of you, and don't give up !! I hope to see more postings like mine in the future.
This is more than a little disconcerting, very unsafe, and I have no confidence the car can be fixed. I'm working with Infiniti consumer affairs, but don't really have many options at this point except to wait and see what the dealer comes back with. I've been an avid Nissan fan for many years, beginning with my first 300zx, but this may well be my last Nissan.
I just filed a NTSHA Safety Complaint yesterday. You may be able to access it as per the "ODI# 10448934". Apparently when filing such, one agrees that the text of the complait becomes public-domain record. SO-BE-IT.
I am truly disgusted that Infiniti seems to be either un-ABLE or ... UN-WILLING to eat the cost to resolve this GLARING GLITCH with the JATCO 7AT ROM data & control architecture. Even if it required replacing ALL Computing elements in each so-equipped VIN, it should be reqiired by Law. :lemon:
Please advise as to ANY progress on VIN specific issues per your dialoog with Nissan USA & Infinti Consumer Affairs. THANKS, Mack
I was surprised when I stumbled onto this forum last night and read all the complaints about the seven-speed transmission. It took awhile, but I read every single post. I had errands today so I made many attempts in several hours of driving to replicate the engine stumble or pause that is so thoroughly described by many of you. I couldn't make it happen. My routine was to brake moderately or hard down to approximately 25mph and accelerate quickly back to 60mph or so. I tried other speeds also, but it wouldn't happen. It doesn't hunt for gears either.
What this tells me is that I am lucky and that this pause or hesitation problem is not prevalent in all 2010-2012 G cars with the automatic transmission. This would seem to discredit Infiniti representatives who suggest this condition is somehow normal. It seems more likely that batches of transmissions, but not all, are faulty for what could be many reasons. If it was just software, you would think they would have it figured out by now. The fix may be a software patch, but it sounds like there's more to it.
My heart goes out to all of you who love their cars and have to live with a problem that is much more than a mere annoyance. It would keep me awake at night. If it's any consolation, I do experience moderately harsh down shifts when stopping quickly. It's like the tranny doesn't have enough time to sequence down smoothly. But it's not going back to the dealer for a reflash because of the risk of coming back worse than when it went in.
It has been mentioned before, but one thing I would try is to disconnect the negative battery cable for several hours to let the ECU and TCU return to their original state. Then reconnect and drive the car. If it has made any difference whatsoever, then it might well be just a software issue.
Best of luck to you all!
I recently leased a new 2011 G37XS. In the past I owned several Nissan models and other GM, Ford vehicles as well. It was not until I "upgraded" to the Infiniti (top of the Nissan line) that I had a hesitation in the transmission. This occurs when the vehicle is downshifting from 4th to 3rd gear and if I try to accelerate there is a brief hesitation. This has occurred several times when trying to change lanes on freeways creating an unsafe condition.
I took the vehicle back to Infiniti and was told this is a normal condition. I vehemently disagreed and was told this is called TIP (which I interpret as Transmission In Pause). I spoke with Infiniti Consumer Affairs and was assigned a case #. After 6 attempts to get through to them again I got the number of the National Vehicle Safety Administration. I called them at 1-888-327-4236 and filed an official complaint. This took under 10 minutes. This is the agency that issues recalls when safety complaints are brought to their attention. I urge all of you to call and file a complaint and perhaps Infiniti will fix the issue.
Mine happens when the vehicle downshifts from 4th to 3rd gear at 20 - 23 MPH.
I can assure you that the National Vehicle Safety Administration does NOT, I repeat, NOT issue safety recalls. They can investigate the matter if they choose, and make recommendations. But that's about it.
But it is ultimately up to the manufacturer to issue recalls. A company's decision whether to recall is purely a financial one. They calculate the math, and decide if it's cheaper to issue a broad sweeping recall, or deal with each complaint and repair (if there is one) on an individual case by case basis.
In this case, there will never be a recall, b/c there's no "fix" for it.
I'm not saying I agree with it. But those are the facts of how it works. I've contacted NVSA myself regarding another vehicle in the past, and no matter how many complaints they get, nothing can prompt a recall.
Your best bet is a class action lawsuit. That's how Honda settled their defective rear brake design that wore out after only 12k miles.
Your idea about disconnecting the battery made logical sense to me. I decided to try it and it has actually made a night and day difference! I will not say it's totally fixed it - I still notice a tiny hesitation (though only sometimes) when accelerating from around 5-10 mph (rolling start, 1st to 2nd) - but, it's probably 95% better overall. :shades: I would recommend everyone try this fix. Below is what I did but first a little background.
In case it ends up mattering, I have a 2011 G37S sedan. I understand the G has an algorithm that learns your driving habits. With this assumption, it's important that you drive aggressive and try and duplicate the problem during the fix - as many times as possible. For example, I would drive down a street at 25, 35, 45 and highways at 55, 65, 75, etc. Instead of keeping a smooth throttle, I purposely let go of the gas and then instantly punched it again at all of these speeds - I would do this punch-and-go around once or twice every 1-2 minutes and I mean floor it so it goes above 5,500 rpm. I kept doing this over and over again, sometimes also hitting the brakes and sometimes just letting off the gas. You might look like a bad driver to those nearby but, it will be worth it as you teach the car not to do / learn the problem anymore. I did this for half a tank of gas. Now, for what I did
Make sure you have half a tank of gas as you'll want to do the above paragraph for at least half a tank. Disconnect the negative battery terminal and keep it disconnected for at least two hours. When you reconnect it, your automatic window up feature may disable - mine did. To re-enable it, simply open your driver's side door and start the car - after the car starts, then close the door. Push the button to roll down the driver's door window automatically. Then, pull up and hold the window up button - keep holding it in the up position for a full five seconds after the window has closed entirely. This will reprogram the one-touch up feature to work again. You may have to duplicate the steps for each window. I only had to do it for the driver's side front and rear doors (two doors) and it fixed it for all windows (four doors). Note that disconnecting the battery will also reset some data on your dashboard readout - it didn't reset any navigation or stereo settings on my car, just the dash.
With that completed, start driving - do the steps in my second paragraph to drive aggressive. You don't have to finish the whole tank in one sitting. Just make sure each time you get in and restart the car that for the remainder of the half a tank of gas you drive aggressive and try and reproduce the problem as often as you can. I've now refilled the tank again and have resumed normal driving and the car drives as it should - no noticeable transmission lag - except for a tiny but somewhat acceptable lag from a rolling start of 5-10 mph. Hopefully once the software patch does come out it fixes this problem too. However, this process has made my car as enjoyable as I expected it to be.
I wonder if this problem happens because during the engine break-in period we are all driving the car like grandmothers and so it learns to behave the same way??? It's absolutely dumb that Infiniti has not figured this out - it will be interesting to read if this works for anyone else. It actually makes me wonder if Infiniti is even trying to address the issue since it would seem testing of the issue would have led them to find this fix - one would think their engineering team would be savvy enough to figure this out. Anyhow, good luck and, again - please do post if this works for you too.
I think I will file the complaint with the National Vehicle Safety Administration as others seem to have done. Maybe we ALL should. My pitches to Infiniti Financial for a No cost release from the exisitng lease fell on Deaf Ears...They don't care. Just make your payments or I will be in delinquency...
2005 G35 Sedan2007 G35 Sedan
2008 G37 Sedan
2010 G37 Coupe
2012 G37 Sedan
2014 Q50 RWD
2017 Q60 3.0t RWD
2018 QX60 RWD
Looks like April 2011
I had my 2011 G37 flashed by the dealer with the
latest software just released 5/15/2012.
I am THRILLED to say they finally fixed the problems!
Two days of driving and I have tried to duplicate the problem that I've experienced frequently over the last 10 months and which I have lots of practice duplicating.
The lag/delay/hesitation is now GONE. Yeah, it's a miracle, I know!
Folks, there's a new TSB out, and it's a good one.
I recommend that everyone who experiences lag or hesitation head over to their Infiniti dealer, tell them they have shift lag and request that ITB-027 be applied. Problem FINALLY solved!
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2005 G35 Sedan2007 G35 Sedan
2008 G37 Sedan
2010 G37 Coupe
2012 G37 Sedan
2014 Q50 RWD
2017 Q60 3.0t RWD
2018 QX60 RWD
ITB12-027 is the TSB number.
UPDATED ECM & TCM
AS PER BULLETIN/DX32AA .8
I brought my 2011 G37 sport convertible in yesterday for the update and after 6 hours of "downloading the software", they call and tell me that " my ECM and tcm does not work with the new update" and that they are working on more codes, what the f@CK! Are you kidding me?
This is what they said my code is;
Your Ecm: 1NY2B
Tcm: X359E
And does not work with Bullertin:ITB12-027...
Can those of you that got the update send me your ECM and TCM numbers so I can see if they match up with mine and if my dealership is just a bunch or morons?? Please send as soon as possible...
Thank you.
I was so f ing bummed yesterday after 6 hours!!
However, I just called 2 different infiniti dealerships and they are both saying that my tranny TCM and ECM are excluded until they come up with an update for mine...this sucks so bad!! the service manager said they ONLY have one site they can go on. NO different sites other than infiniti NA...
My ECM is "1NY2B" and TCM is "359E". Does that match yours by any chance??
Rita in Atlanta
Finn in Nashua, NH