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ABS is not an option for Civic, it is standard and only available on Civic EX. Go figure. ABS is optional for Corolla I believe. ABS will prevent brake lock up during emergency situation. IMO It's very important to have it.
Regards,
Also, if anyone has an advice on selling my car now that would be great. It's a 1992 chrysler lebaron convertible.
thanks.
I love the car, feel I got a great price and am glad I went with a 2002 Honda Civic EX Sedan over the VW Jetta 1.8T Sedan I was looking at. I hope I'm one of the many that gets atleast 100,000 miles out of their Honda.
Best of luck,
Carrie
Is the destination fee included in the invoice price?
What do you all think of this quote (SF Bay Area):
"We will offer you a 2002 Honda Civic EX 4dr sedan with automatic transmission in any color you desire for $15,926. This is valid through
6/23 and is plus tax, destination, dmv, doc and tire fee. Our price includes a full tank of gas, and as our gift to you, door edge guards
and wheel well moldings (a $258 value) to help protect your vehicle against damage."
About how much will this be out the door?
Thanks,
Tam
See if you can talk them out of not paying destination charge which is about $440. With destination charge, tax, lic, doc tire... all the dealer lists you should get out of door just less than $18,000.
Good luck,
bjk
What dealer are you dealing with? I dealt with Larry Hopkins Honda. I have no regrets.
Will they knock off the destination charge? I've read that it's generally not negotiable... but I'll try.
I've gotten all of my quotes over email from dealerships in the Bay Area... I'm most interested in getting it in Berkeley because I live here, and would rather not go far, and because I want my tax dollars to stay here. I've gotten lower quotes elsewhere, and will bring those emails to them and ask them to beat them.
I've actually hated my interactions with Larry Hopkins Honda... the guy has refused to give me a quote over email, and instead emails me these cheesy onliners ("Now is the time to buy, isn't it? Call me!")... Not sure if I should bother trying to talk to someone else there.
I think El Cerrito Honda is nearby you.
Does anyone know when the 2003 civic coupe will hit the market? I haven't found any information about them. Just curious! Thanks.
What do y'all think? Is that a good deal?
Oh, I'm in Los Angeles, btw.
-AR
Editted to add, invoice price is 14,090.
Thanks !
Yes dealer will tint your window for you, but they typical send your car out to professional tint shop too. So why pay dealer's price, you could take to tint shop yourself and cut off the middle man.
Regards,
bjk
Then comes the finance guy who in the blink of an eye sold us a Lockjack system with alarm and keyless for $550.
Because my daughter does not have a job and little credit experience he offered 7.49% financing with her as the primary borrower and I as the cosigner. So here are the final numbers:
MSRP $16,370
Invoice $15,003
Purchase price $14,200
Lojack/alarm $ 550
Tax @ 5% $ 738
Title $ 80
Document prep $ 198
Total out-the-door $15,766
Insurance $ 2,829
This is not what I call cheap. Could I have done better?
There is no emission testing charge ( SMOG check) for new vehicle in Ca.
ben
It appears from your comments that Peoplefirst offers terrific finance deals. This was the choice I faced. If I was the primary borrower I could get financing through AAA at 4.99%. However, my insurance agent cautioned against being a part owner because in the event of a liability claim they could come after me.
So in the end we chose to have everything in my daughter's name (title, insurance and loan) with me a co-signer on the loan at 7.49%.
I will look into Peoplefirst though, probably refinancing the car note.
Well interesting thought from your insurance agent. So in the event of liability claims it's ok to let them go after your daughter? You must have lots of property to avoid the liability claims then. Why don't you buy more liability insurance?
Instead of refinance thru people's first, why don't you get home equity loan and pay off the 7.49% then ask your daughter to pay home equity loan payment for you?
Regards,
bjk
The downside is that she might not make the payments relying instead on her most generous parents to bail her out.
I'll have to think about it some more before committing myself to an arrangement that I might regret.
What do you all think is a fair, good, or excellent price?
Edmunds says its worth 10K so should I start at 9k and go up from there?
This is all such a grey area, Anyone's experiences would help with regard to handling dealers.
How shall I negotiate to get a good deal?
thanks in advance,
Struggling student
I'm new in the US and buying my first car over here - I'd appreciate you people's advice..! I've had an offer from a dealer for a new Honda 2002 LX Coupe 2dr AT, at $761 below invoice (14,149 inc dest) - which sounds like a great deal. However, the dealer I spoke to said he had 14 LXs sitting on his forecourt - he's going to have a job shifting all those before the 2003 models come out (soon?) isn't he? Do you know if there's any big factory to dealer incentives out at the moment or coming out soon? Were there last year? Are LXs selling slower than Honda thought?
Any thoughts appreciated..Thanks!
The dealer said they had about 35 Civics on their lot, which they heavily discount as loss leaders, at $750 below invoice.
The manager said they don't mind selling the Civic's below invoice since they more than make up for it on the Odyssey, a minivan in such high demand that buyers have to wait 90 days for one.
As a matter of fact there are no minivans available for test drives so one buys on blind faith. Also, I read somewhere that Honda has a silent $1,000 cash back incentive to dealers on the Civic.
Thanks again
Bill
i'm really confused. can someone explain to me why if some dealers are willing to sell an EX sedan auto for $14,988 (to bjk2001, for example), then how come they can't do $14,258 (the price of the civic ex auto less $730) for an EX coupe 5-speed? i'm looking for the latter and i live in socal. from the impression i get, it seems that sticks aren't as popular, so wouldn't the dealers want to get rid of them?
thanks!
Today would be a really good day to put in some effort, try emailing the dealers or go online with one of the services, it is the end of the month.
Because I am special. LOL! We never looked @ 5 sp, for my daughter doesn't know how to drive a stick shift. I believe dealers in so cal are selling Civic EX 5 speed in great discount too. I think all the Civic and Accord are in the same boat. I just looked today's LA Times not much there, have to wait till toward the end of the week to see Civic 5 sp discount.
bjk
selling price: 14500
doc fee: 45
tax (approx): 1200
CA tire fee (and I couldn't figure out what that was): 5
title/license: 139
OTD: 15,889
I think that's a pretty good deal, right? I was getting really tired of jumping from dealer to dealer, and finally, today someone called me back and said he wanted to meet his quota so he'll give me the car. Not for the price I wanted, mind you, but better than having no car.
I have a question regarding financing and credit. The financing guy was telling me that since this is my first new car purchase, I should try to finance at least a part of it (10k) so that it will be easier for me to finance a more expensive car down the line, and that I should try to make about 15 payments (and then I can pay it off) - then I will have established a 1-year car history. Since I have excellent credit right now, is it necessary for me to finance the car or should I just pay it off cash? The rate they were giving me was 7.09% (since I'm a recent college grad i couldn't get them to give me better), and my bank is willing to give me 6.25%.
What do you think?
Congrats for your new Civic.
Don't listen to dealer's finance guy. He is trying to make money from you. He tries to get kicked back from bank when you finance thru them. If you want to finance go with your bank lower rate. He is full of it. I could bet my house well thow in wife and kids too if you tell him you get 6.25% from your bank and he will match the rate. It happened to me many times, at the beginning sale told me finance rate I asked was too low. Then right before I sign the paper finance guy will come in and match the rate even beat it.
A few years back I took one of wife's friend to a local dealer (Toyota in Puente Hill) to purchase a Camry per newspaper ad price by CASH. Sales came out straight telling her/us, she can't pay cash and buy that car. The ONLY way she can get the car in that price is to finance thru them and she could even pay it off after the first payment. Of course sales also told her that she needs to establish her credit routine, like what your sales told you. NO CREDIT IS BETTER THAN CASH. DUH!. Anyway, we walked out the Toyota dealership. That's B#$%^^&*. And wife's friend ended with a MB E320. LOL.
Good luck,
bjk
Yeap, you beated me to it. LOL.
Jeff, FYI we paid $14,988 for EX Auto 4dr, 3 1/2 months ago, including mudguard. Floor mats you could pay $67 order online. A friend of mine bought EX auto 4 dr last month, paid $14,988 including mudguard, door edge guard and floormats.
bjk
BTW, what exactly is custom tail lights? A dealer quoted me two different prices for the EX Coupe..one was with not addl stuff...and the other was the showroom model with custom tail lights on it. I wasn't quite sure what they looked like.
Thanks!
kate
Whether is it a good price or not, depends on where do you live. $700 below invoice maybe a good deal for some area, but it is a TERRIBLE deal in LA, So California. $1,700 below invoice in LA is a good deal.
Customer tail lights: Without seeing the car, I have to guess: Dealer took off the Honda Civic stock Red tail light and put on some Clear (maybe amber) tail light, I think if you look at Lexus IS 300 or new Altima, you could get some idea.
Good luck!
ben
Thanks
Chuck
I live in the Dallas area. The 700 below invoice is the best price that I've been quoted so far.
I've seen posts where some got their EX for like 14500 or something. Wish I could find that here! Maybe I'll t hrow an offer out to them.
Thanks!
kate
It's mid-August, so would and offer from me of $1500 below invoice be out of line? Also, is this $460 destination charge negotiable?
Advice is appreciated.
Yes, $399 doc is outrageous. What do they have to do for $399? Just another way to make more money. All the paperwork in on computer now,all they have to do is to go to DMV and register car for you. Geesh! We paid $45 in So Ca.
$460 destination charge is not negotiable. That's Honda's charge for each car. Typical you talked about the price including destination charge. $1,500 below the invoice depends on where you live. In So Cal, you can get $1,700 below the invoice. EX 4 Dr Auto $14,988 is including destination charge, we paid tax, lic and doc $45 on top of it. Total $16,450 out of the door.
Ben
Kate:
How about jump on an plane to LA to purchase an new EX then drive it all the way home to Tx?