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Congratulations by the way... I hope I get a deal like that, and soon.
For those interested in this particular configuration, I actually got a better offer from Hillside Honda in NY of $18,999 but for a galaxy gray color.
From what I've found, the navi equipped models seem to be staying on the lot longer then expected, which is good for consumers.
Yes I can beat their price of $16,592, my Internet Sale Price for a 2006 Honda Civic LX coupe is $16,393 plus tax and title. Please let me know your thoughts.
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Hello again,
I have been talking to you about the price of a civic
LX coupe with automatic transmission. I also have
been talking with a few other area dealerships to find
the best price around. The 23 of December is the date
I am going to buy the car from the dealership with the
best price. I'm sorry to inform you that Park Honda
has quoted me at the price of 16592. I understand
that this price is well below your last quote of 16910
and I also understand that you might not be able to
match or beat it. If you can beat this price please
let me know.
Thank You! Cam
This is the email sent to me by the dealership...this is not the price I paid because I took this quote to another dealership (Mike Pruitt Honda) and they matched this quote and beat it by the amount I scratched off on a scratch card....
If you are in the DFW area, check out John Eagle Honda on Lemmon Ave. I bought a 2006 Civic LX AT for $16,800.00 plus TTL, OTD $18,071.61 from the Internet Director.
Lute Riley Honda's best price was $17,250.00 plus TTL.
David McDavid Honda of Frisco's best price was $17,600.00 plus TTL.
I am sure they will be able to give you a good price on your other choices.
I was working with another dealer who had previously given me his bottom line quote of 19,350 OTD. When I told him of the lower quote, he said his finance manager would not go that low. I bought the car that evening from Florence. The original guy calls me up the next morning and was actually angry I did not give him a chance to beat the other dealers price... geeez..
Mark
I just want to share my car buying experiences.
I bought my car at Faulkner Honda in Harrisburg, PA. The salesman was friendly, not too pushy, explained the car and answered my questions.
I first did research on invoice prices and then request via edmunds.com for internet quotes. I brought in the internet quote to the dealership as a starting point and negiotiated down from the internet quote.
The final price was $16,500 with mud guards and pin stripes.
I am satisfied with this price since I had negotiated this price end of October (before the Civic was announced Motor Trend's Car of the Year). It is best to buy end of the month when salesmen want to meet their quotas.
The following is the bad car shopping experience:
The salesman at David Michael Honda dealership in Freehold, NJ was too pushy and kept calling me asking when I was ready to buy. He said he could beat the $16,500 by offering me $15,700. I knew right away that this deal was too good to be true and that this was a sleazy salesman who just want me to go to the dealership. He kept saying he will take care of me and told me to don't worry. I know there was something fishy. Since I was visiting a friend there, I went just to see and with no expectations that I will get this price and sure enough, he denied this price. He even got his floor manager involved to get me to buy the car at 16,500 (which the floor manager said was a difficult price to offer). I would not buy a car there just because this salesman.
The moral to this experience at David Michael Honda is to get everything in writing or email. Verbal quotes can be denied.
What do you think?
You are right to say to get everything in writing or e-mail when the salesman gives you a too-good-to-be-true price on a car. Or do what I did years ago - get a great big aggressive dude from your church to get on the phone with you and listen to the quote. Then meet at the dealership to negotiate. When the salesman starts this crap about not giving you that quote (deal)--- the big dude then gets up and says, "I HEARD YOU GIVE HER THAT QUOTE OVER THE PHONE. THIS IS DECEPTIVE TRADE PRACTICE AND THAT WILL BE TRIPLE DAMAGES."
When I bought the car and got to the final step the closing guy informed us that he had to call and check to see if the numbers were even right. He had NEVER EVER seen a car sold for that amount before!
Yes, believe it or not, it is DECEPTIVE TRADE PRACTICE to be given a quote over the phone and then have them not live up to it. The dealership made us shake hands and promise not to sue (which we did)!
Thanks for sharing your experience. Could you please tell me whether the price($16500) includes all, or destination charge only?
Yes it is hard to prove unless you go to Radio Shack and purchase a $3 phone recorder attachment to tape the call. Or, as in my case, there happens to be a very strong witness.
BTW, I asked the salesman THREE times over the phone about the deal - even went through all the particulars with him. I had been been given another offer just a bit more than him from a dealership farther away and I wanted to be sure he would give me this deal when we got there. I was very very thorough.
This salesman then confirmed the deal over and over again. So when we got to the dealership he just lied. He stated as you said (some misunderstanding....) but the church dude stood his ground and said "This is illegal."
Trust me, I was so through with the guy over the phone that I was irritated when we got to the dealership and he was in denial.
I give God the glory for answering our prayers.
I'm glad you chose to give your business to a more customer-friendly shop.
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The $16,500 included only destination charge and mud guards and pinstripes. TTL was extra. OTD is $17600.00.
Plus TTL
OTD - $17,562.62
Location : Columbus, OH.
No trade-in.
What do you guys think?
$18,576.00 Sale price of car
$550.00 Dest.
$59.50 Doc.
$19.185.50 OTD
Bought at Mark Roberts in Bartlesville, Ok. Second car we have bought from them in 6 months. Was a very pleasant purchase like the last. I feel the price is very good. Straight up no haggle heres the deal. We got 5.9 on the interest. Credit app was filled out online. Approved in about a hour. Two phone calls then off to Bartlesville in our new 05 Accord EX Sedan to pickup the wonderful Civic Sedan.
What about 'trade in value'? What about Honda Care Extended Service Warranty? What about Lojack? What about taxes?
Manny
In these columns I have shared my trials and tribulations of buying the Honda 06 MT and Navi 4 dr. sedan. All your help is appreciated.
After one week I received a call from the Internet Manager of Curry Honda, Yorktown Heights New York where I purchased the vehicle.
They were asking about how I get along with the vehicle. Two days later, a surveyer from Honda Motors asked me to rate my purchasing experience from 1 to 5. Also asked me to rate the salesperson, the financial person and overall satisfaction.
Two weeks later I received a letter from Lojack Corporation a coupon to examine the Lojack system for free within the next 2 years to made sure it is working.
Also I received a registration of the car from the DMV of New York. (I had gotten a temporary one until January 13th, 2005. Also a $20 refund for overpayment for registration.
Today I received a booklet about the extended service warranty from Honda Care.
In general, I feel satisfied with my purchase 'price wise' and my interactions with the Curry Honda Dealership. I feel that once they found out that I was a well prepared and savy buyer, they gave me the benefit of the doubt.
They were going to install a passive Lojack Alarm on my car that already have a Honda Passive Alarm, and they were trying to charge me $1650 for an extended Honda Care for 8 years and 120,000 miles, and $1300 for a Lojack. The Lojack system is a basic system with an alarm.
In the end, after much hackling and much research on my part, they gave me the Lojack with an early warning system for $995, and the Honda Care for $950.
The Lojack was worth it. The Honda Care has exclusions of all remotely connected to wear and tear items. Also it duplicates the Powertrain Warranty and the bumper to bumper warranty of the vehical in the beginning. It also duplicates the AAA autoclub services.
Still it gave me some addition coverage of the powertrain for 3 years and the Navi System and air conditioning for 5 years. $950 is not a terribly expensive plan.
The surveying of my experience showed that this dealership does care about long term image.
Yours Sincerely,
Manny
The Sandman :confuse:
The antitheft system that the car comes with involves a passive alarm and a coded key. The car would not start without the coded key. That means the car thief has to steal the key from the owner of the car if he wants to drive the car away himself.
Tampering with the car also triggers a loud alarm that might attract attention. However, should the thief disable the alarm system and use a flatbed truck, he could carry the car away.
A Lojack system is a tracking system in which the Lojack corporation works with local police. Once the car is reported missing, the police can turn on the scan and locate the vehicle. Useful, if you want the vehicle back.
An early warning Lojack involves Lojack Corporation tracking the car in a continuous monitoring situation.
If the car is moved by anyone other than predesignated drivers, the car eminates a signal, and the Lojack Corporation will notify the owner of the car, who in turn will notify the police.
Lojack is very useful if you want you original car back. Also it has tremendous deterent value.
Professional Thieves are thought to have a way of detecting which cars have Lojack installed. Once they detect it, they would leave it alone. One tracked car by the police is not worth the threat of having the entire car jacking operation demolished.
In addition to cars, much of other valuable things are Lojack protected. Tracking systems under other names are used widely in the security agencies and with the military.
I hope sharing this with you is helpful.
Manny
$1,392.19 tax @ 8.25%
$173 dmv
$45 doc
$28 cvr
$8.75 ca tire fee
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$18,521.94 total sale
Not sure what cvr is but this was the best price I got. It sucks how I'm paying OTD for just a little less than what some of you pay for an EX because of sales tax. I emailed my quote to other dealers and all they could do was match the price. Another sucky part about living in the Bay Area where Hondas and Toyotas go for a higher premium than the rest of the country. I didn't pay for any of the useless add-ons. So this was the final cost. I highly recommend this dealer to anyone who wants to buy a Honda. I was in and out of there in less than 2 hours. Just make sure you have settled on the price over email before you come in.
What about 'trade in value'? What about Honda Care Extended Service Warranty? What about Lojack? What about taxes?
Manny
Manny I never trade cars in. I never buy extended warrenty, Dont buy Lojack and TTL will be about $700.00 on the car. We have 30 days to tag and pay tax here. No one in this part of the country ever looks at TTL as part of the car purchase. Dealing with the socialist demagods is a seperate issue.
What is TTL?
Manny
TTL = Tax, Tags & License
None of which should be considered in comparing vehicle prices, because they vary from city to city and state to state. That's why any discussion of OTD (Out The Door) pricing is meaningless for people in different geographical areas.
The Saturday Oregonian [Portland] today had one of the local Honda dealers advertising Civic LX Automatics for $16,844. This is the first time any of the local dealers here have actually advertised any pricing on the new Civic, and I take this as a sign that supply and demand are finally starting to match up. No doubt this figure will go lower as the new year dawns and matures.
Have a good holiday....
Supply has caught up but dealers are still trying to ask for sticker because it's a big city, plenty of fools to find.
Alex
Neat thing about Beaveton Honda is they put the plates on the car before you drive off! No temp registration sticker on the back window, but I know some people like to wear that sticker for a few weeks!
But just to add to why I like Autowest so much. I had first gone to check out a Toyota Corolla but they gave me a 10.9% APR and I said no thanks. At Autowest Honda, they gave me 8.9% and then the finance guy said, "You know, I don't like this rate, let me try different lenders to see if I can do better." I ended up with 7.9% which took $11 off my monthly payment. I don't have the best of credit rating so I am extremely impressed.
Fremont is not that far from me. I have been driving all over the Bay Area to check out the Honda Dealers and checking out the Civic. At first, I could not make up my mind for a EX or LX or a Coupe or a Sedan. Did you know the Coupe LX comes with 6 speakers when the Sedan LX comes with 4 speakers? The Sedan EX comes with 6 speakers but only the Coupe EX comes with the 6 speakers AND the 350 Watt Stereo upgrade. For Insurance purpose, the Coupe is also more expensive for coverage, about $300 more per year.
Well, don't be a stranger on this board. Keep us up todate on your experience of owning the Civic.
I've put about a 100 miles on the car now and everything is ok. There is a slight rattle near the right B-pillar when the road is bumpy. The right windshield wiper sweeps up clockwise instead of the normal counter-clockwise like most cars which equals to more sweeping area in the rain. Not sure why all cars don't do this, it just makes sense.
Oh I forgot to mention that when I declined the extended service contract, the finance guy at Autowest Honda told me that I couldn't perform oil change service on the car or it would void the warranty. You have to have certified Honda mechanics do it because the new "Maintenance Minder" system is so hightech, it'll tell you when you opened up the oil cap. I think this is a load of bull^&%$. Can anyone back me up on this? I don't want to get ripped off by ridiculous dealer charges for routine maintenance I can do on my own.
I would have slaped that person right then and there. I just bought my new Civic last thursday. I declined there extended warrentys and other crap also. Nothing like that was said at all. Keep your recepits and do it yourself. Heck I dont even keep the recepits anymore. I run M1 oil, atf and filter in my cars. Besure to replace the crush washers and just change the oil. The morons can tell when oils been changed in a motor and when its not been serviced. I do oil and filter changes at 7.5k intervals. God the crap some folks will say at a dealer.
Price $16300
Title $125.00
Tax(0.0675)$1107.00
Total $17532.50
2006 Civic LX $16,770.00
2006 Civic EX w/o Navigation $18,366.00
And then the Civic EX (w/o Navi) for $18,300.
The first two need tax, title and license. The second one just needs "taxes".
Let me know what you all think! Thanks!
I've driven the Mazda 3 before. To me it basically comes down to what you want from the car. Do you want a driver's car or a good reliable vehicle. I agree, the Mazda materials is higher quality, interior design is better. Seats are better, engine is faster and so on and so forth. I actually think the Civic is an ugly car. All the car magazines and websites are the same, they choose the faster and sportier car 99% of the time because they are driving enthusiasts. But to me, the Mazda interior was more cramped, the ride was much more bumpy, and fuel economy is just awful compared to the Civic. And it's odd how they rarely ever take in long term ownership costs into the value equation. It's not just the initial sticker price. Add in fuel savings and resale value and the Civic will trump the Mazda 3 easily. Hondas have the best non luxury car resale values.
And to add a final nail to the coffin, if I really wanted a driver's car, I would go for the Civic Si. It would be interesting to see how those 197 hp compares to the Mazda 3. So I'm not saying the Mazda 3 is a bad car. I'm just saying it's good for some people and the Civic is good for others.
Happy Motoring!
2006 Civic LX $16,770.00
2006 Civic EX w/o Navigation $18,366.00
And then the Civic EX (w/o Navi) for $18,300.
The first two need tax, title and license. The second one just needs "taxes".
Let me know what you all think! Thanks!
Well, I bought my 2006 EX with Auto w/o Navi (you didn't mention if your quotes were for auto or manual trans) for $18,810 including the destination fee but not TTL. That's $800 under MSRP, so if your quote for the EX includes the destination charge and was for an automatic then you beat me by $500. Which one was it and does your quote include the destination charges?
Good luck!
Warner
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Yes- those are with destination but not TTL (which I think is the easiest way to do quotes on cars). It is an AT as well.
I'm assuming I won't do much better than 18,300 because its really only a few hundred above invoice+dest fee.
So I'm guessing you would take that one, right?
BTW - it was the Honda in Countryside @ 18,300 and the other was the one... I think it was the one in Lisle?
Thanks!
Yes- those are with destination but not TTL (which I think is the easiest way to do quotes on cars). It is an AT as well.
I'm assuming I won't do much better than 18,300 because its really only a few hundred above invoice+dest fee.
So I'm guessing you would take that one, right?
BTW - it was the Honda in Countryside 18,300 and the other was the one... I think it was the one in Lisle?
Thanks!
Wow, if that's the real deal I would DEFINITELY take it! I bought mine from McGrath Honda in Elgin, so I'm also in the Chicago suburbs. I don't think you're going to do any better than $18,300 for an EX auto. I paid $500 more than this and was happy about it. I also got the "protection package" at dealer cost ($140) which stickers for $365. This was already installed in the car (and probably WILL be on most if not all EX's as it includes wheel locks, trunk liner, and floor mats (though I have since ordered the all-season mats which are really nice and just about mandatory here with our sloppy Chicago winters and springs). I'd take that car and run with it! Oh, I don't know if you're interested or not, but I have a good source for the Hondacare warranties....I opted for the 6 year/ 120,000 mile with zero deductible and got it for $885. Also, if you need financing, you can apply online with capital one Capital One Auto Loans) They currently offer rates as low as 5.39% I used them...they sent me a blank check (overnight, for free!) to fill the numbers in on. It turned out to be simply a bartering tool while filling out all the paperwork, though. When we first started talking about financing, I was told that 6.99% was the best rate they could offer. I got 5.65% from Capital One (which was their best rate at the time - for a 5 year loan). I brought this to the dealer and they were able to give me 5.35% somehow. (miracle, huh?). I then shredded the blank check from Capital One. It didn't cost me a nickel to get a 1.64% lower interest rate using this method. Good luck!
Warner
I just got a quote for 23,790 for the civic si w/ nav at buena park honda in California. I did not get the car because i think i should wait and that it over price ? what do you guys think?
I also went to Goudy honda and they kept on lying to me so dont go there. They had said the si is going to be limted edtion, that only a few are going to be made is that true?